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Man Orders Nachos And Causes A Family Fight Because He Couldn’t Get The Hint That His BIL With Autism Would React Badly
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Man Orders Nachos And Causes A Family Fight Because He Couldn’t Get The Hint That His BIL With Autism Would React Badly

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Having an autistic family member can be both rewarding and challenging. Individuals with autism often have unique strengths and abilities, but they may also face difficulties in daily life that require special attention and care. It can be an opportunity to learn about a different way of thinking and communicating, but it can also require patience, understanding, and flexibility.

However, recently, a guy on the internet shared a story about his autistic brother-in-law, who, according to him, exploits people’s perception in order to control them.

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    Guy asked the community if he was wrong for ordering nachos after brother in-law caused a scene over the crunch

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    The tantrum started after the crunch sound from nachos and seeing olives which don’t belong on them

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    The author ended up being the bad guy for not listening to his wife’s hints and ordering crunchy food

    The Reddit user “Consistent_Cat_1126” shared his story to one of the Reddit communities for its members’ opinions on whether he was wrong for ordering nachos at a restaurant and causing his autistic brother-in-law to have a tantrum over the sound of the crunch. The discussion very fast went viral and reached over 15K upvotes and almost 4K comments.

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    The OP introduces the narrative by stating that his 32-year-old brother-in-law has autism, ADHD, and set-point obesity. However, the author believes that he benefits from people’s perceptions of these things for his good. Now, the big event started when the man and his wife invited their in-laws to a restaurant for Easter dinner. These arrangements were ideal as the brother-in-law had other plans. However, unfortunately for the OP, these plans got canceled, which meant only one thing – brother-in-law was joining them for dinner.

    Now, the family went to a restaurant best known for its bar cuisine, and the original author immediately ordered nachos. He recalls his wife telling him not to, but he wasn’t really aware of her cues. And here we go, the first bite prompted the BIL’s tantrum for two reasons—the crunch was “killing him” and the black olives don’t belong on nachos (Mexico and Spain, you know, it’s not the same). Following the scene, the author was criticized for causing another scene, just this time through his own words.

    Well, regarding this part of the story, the author himself agrees that he was a jerk, as he called his brother-in-law a creep and claimed that the list of things you can not do near BIL is ridiculous. However, the evening finished with the in-laws leaving, a lecture from the wife that he should have noticed how they never have chips at home and the traditional silent treatment.

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    The audience pronounced him Not The A-hole and in the comment section, a thread started making fun of the olives and nachos situation. One user went ahead: “I can’t believe your in-laws are jalapeno grill about some cheesy chip goodness.” “No wonder OP has beef with them,” continued another.

    Additionally, the users were helpful regarding the situation as some of them were dealing with the same problem. First of all, sound-proof headphones could have helped to avoid this situation. Second of all, if the family is aware of his serious health-related issue, they could have avoided a restaurant that is famous for its bar food. Even if the author wouldn’t have ordered nachos, there is a very high probability that somebody else around their table would eat crunchy food.

    Now, according to Sarah Barkely, 50% to 70% of autistic people eventually experience diminished sound tolerance, according to study. She provides a few methods that can ease the discomfort. First of all, to prevent sound sensitivity from being triggered, avoiding loud events or places may be the first step. Try visiting new places during the quiet time of the day.

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    To avoid overstimulation, many people wear earplugs or noise-canceling headphones. These devices can help to visit spaces that were almost impossible before and increase the possibility to participate in everyday life. A 2018 study also discovered that wearing noise-canceling headphones boosted the involvement of autistic children in their homes, communities, and schools.

    So, guys, what do you think about this situation? Maybe you have experienced something similar and how did you deal with it?

    The community members defended the poster in this situation and shared their insights

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    Dddad
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son is autistic and since birth we've been teaching him that while having certain difficulties is understandable and if properly voiced they will be taken in account in order to avoid them. However, being autistic does not give him the right to be an a*****e and if a situation is getting too much for him it's totally OK for him to extract himself from the situation. He is on his way growing up to be an incredible decent and thoughtfully young man and we couldn't be more proud of him.

    Noname
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kudos to you for not treating your child like their issues govern the world they live in, and that they must adapt as well. I'm sure that this has been a huge struggle for your family.

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    Natalie H
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. This sounds like a bunch of manipulative b******t to me. What, pray tell, would they have done if the table NEXT to them had crunched nachos with olives? If this were a true problem, it seems the family would’ve taken action by just getting takeout & eating at home🤷🏻‍♀️

    Sad Quokka
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. That's not how autism works. BIL knew the nachos would be crunchy yet he ate them anyway!?? Yes, OP might have been a bit nicer but as an autistic person myself, BIL, MIL and FIL TA. Maybe MIL and FIL need training on how to deal with autism...

    Lakota Wolf
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plus in the comments OP mentions that BIL eats Takis chips constantly, so obviously it's NOT the actual crunching he has a problem with, since he apparently doesn't mind his OWN crunching sounds. Also, doesn't ANYONE in the family think it's just a bit gross and weird that 32-year-old BIL is obsessed with a 19-year-old GIRL influencer online? Or is that also just "accepted" because he's "autistic"?

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    The Doom Song
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother has autism. He is 42 and still lives with my folks. We never invite him out anywhere. It's not coz we are a******s and get embarrassed by him. It's literally because it's just easier to leave him at home with a cooked chicken and some bread rolls. He can eat when he wants and do his normal routine. Going out is just too much for him.

    Bunzilla
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Olives are Spanish and not Mexican." Uh... where does he think a lot of current Mexican culture comes from? SPAIN. (Just looked it up and apparently they're widely used in Mexican cuisine) That's the part to me that says he's pretty much weaponizing his ASD. Plus, the fact that he eats tons of Takis. He sounds pretty high-functioning.

    Linda Ward
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an adult on the autistic spectrum, my blood boils whenever I see a discussion of our "tantrums." An autistic meltdown is not a tantrum, a deliberate behavoiur with the intent of getting one's way or attracting attention; it is an involuntary reaction of the central nervous system to when it feels trapped, overwhelmed, or otherwise unable to control the situation at hand. Thank of what happens when you hear a loud noise and your senses are temporarily heightened, and then imagine living like that 24/7 and you'll have some idea of what life is like for us; and yes, I do have noise cancelling headphones, but they only go so far. I know well enough to minimize or avoid exposure to loud environments, and neurotypical people, especially parents and caregivers of autistic children, need to do their research so that they can better understand and accommodate our needs.

    Seabeast
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So why did BIL even want to go to a bar, which is almost certain to be noisy?

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    Niki A
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously? He pointed out that the olives don't belong and it bothers him, and everyone is gonna have a meltdown? Autistic or not, dude seems spoiled.

    IronySairo
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brother has autism. Life does not revolve around him. Leave him at home, enjoy your life.

    Noname
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA One of my kids has not been diagnosed with autism but has misophonia- they get triggered with anxiety over certain sounds, like eating foods like chips, slurping soup or noodles, and breathing (yes, the sound of someone else breathing triggers my kid into an anxiety attack). And while we try to be considerate of their sensitivity, as a family, we've decided to not let them dictate how we eat and breathe. They are welcome to join us and leave if they feel anxious, but we're not going to stop enjoying eating the foods we like and breathing because it disturbs them.

    Seedy Vine
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, OP. When the parents die, guess who the BIL is supposed to move in with? You and the wife, most likely. It's probably better that you brought this issue up now so that you can all plan for the future.

    Sarah Turney
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm confused BIL has the autism not you. They've disabled him more by tlnot teaching him coping methods.

    Joelle Jansen
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ESH. OP, his wife and his parents in law aren't communicating at all. His wife should've told him the nachos were a no-go with BIL present. His parents in laws should've left BIL at home, or taught him better coping skills. OP should get off his high horse and think about why he assumes someone in distress must be doing it for attention. Just because you don't understand, doesn't mean it's not real.

    Seabeast
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why take someone like that to a bar where crunchy bar snacks like nachos are likely to be sold? Is he going to freak out because strangers at the next table ordered it?

    Noname
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people just don't understand things like this and feel like they need to prove their point. I have an allergy to lobster, shrimp and crab. There are some people, like my fil, who think I just don't like crustaceans and not a real allergy. My fil cooked dinner for us one night using a frozen package of "fruit de mer" (basically a mix of shrimp, scallops, and mussels) and it was delicious, but then I broke out in hives, and I asked my fil about the seafood and he told me he picked out all the shrimp from the mix because he knew I didn't "like" shrimp. Dude, I don't eat shrimp because I'm allergic! And I can't eat anything that touches shrimp because I have a severe allergic reaction! He just thought I didn't like shrimp and believed he could remove them from the mix and I'd never know. Now, he knows I wasn't making up a story. I carry an epipen for such occasions. (I've been "surprised" in Asian restaurants too, even after asking if it's crustacean free.)

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    Smiles x
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have Autism... This is not how that works. I also have an issue where certain noises make me see colors, so imagine eating a french fry that quite suddenly looks brown and blue. I do not make people stop their life because I am unhappy... Unless it is smoking because that is just gross and should be counted as murder as it affects other people.

    Lyone Fein
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I personally think ESH. Especially because by 32, a person and his parents should have numerous management skills and strategies in place. But also the OP should not be using terms like creep to describe someone with a disability.

    Sheena Leversedge Wood
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. I'm autistic. and while I'm an adventurous eater there are some very normal things I know from experience I can't tolerate eating. I'll try most foods, and if they don't work for me, then I know they don't work for me. but I don't for one minute think that me being autistic should affect what other people are allowed to eat

    Shawna Burt
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. My sensory issues are real, yes, but they don't mean I get to control what other people eat. BIL is a manipulative asshat, 100%, and the whole damn family are enabling him.

    AngelWingsYT
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Even if she told him in the past she tiptoed around it in the now rather than remind him. Also they should be denied foods because of one person. Have him wear noise cancelling headphones! He shouldn't get to dictate everyones meals cause "it crunches" "its smells weird" "it has something on it i disagree with" ect. Edit: the fact the fam cater to this rather than get him needed help to both work with what triggers him and not have to change their way of life only cements this behavior n marks it as ok

    TheKitKatLizard
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, if you're this sensitive about what other people eat around you, why even go to a restaurant? Especially if you're not willing to make changes for yourself (like wearing headphones) or even actually communicate beforehand and instead just expect everyone around you to magically accommodate you/your child?

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    OmBoyGanesh
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To preface what I’m about to say: the vast majority of human beings are not a******s. Whether they’re neurotypical or neurodivergent, a genius or partially deaf in the left ear. People typically are not a******s no matter what abilities and differences they have. With that said: people with different abilities have the same propensity for being d***s as anyone else. When it comes to spectrum -related behaviors, we tend to go a little far negating the possibility of them being an a*****e. It’s demeaning, pandering, condescending & unfair to not allow for someone’s behavior to be assholish just cos they’re in the spectrum. My friend had Asperger’s and is high-functioning. He’s also a manipulative prick at times. They aren’t the same nor are they cause/effect. He can just be a d**k when he doesn’t get his way. And he knows it. When people rationalize & excuse his assholeness as his Asperger’s it hurts him. As in both perpetually, but it hurts his feelings. He’ll vocalize this, too.

    Iblowsheep_V3.2
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. the family is. Even if these conditions are not exaggerated, they should know better than to even bring him into that type of environment in the first place.

    day light
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand that most of you don't have enough experience with autistic people to understand that our meltdowns (which was incorrectly called a tantrum in this story) are entirely involuntary. it's absolutely devastating when it happens in public simply because it's humiliating and a reminder that we can't live our lives like the average person does. most of us know how to avoid anything that could trigger a meltdown, such as me, a person with scent sensitivity so bad I can't walk through the detergent aisle, completely avoiding any stores that sell perfumes or bath products. but there are some of us that don't exactly know our own limits and rely on other people (typically parents) to prevent us from being put in a situation that could cause a meltdown. what I'm saying here is the BIL isn't the a*****e in this situation (1/2)

    day light
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    even if he is wrong about the olives aren't in Mexican cuisine thing and even if he is a fan of some 19 year old—which is an ad hominem attack to make him seem even worse in this situation—but his parents are most definitely the a******s for knowingly bringing him into an environment where he will most certainly experience a meltdown. OP's wife is a bit of an a*****e too for not directly saying why she didn't want him to order the nachos. OP is an a*****e though for his comments about his BIL, but not for unknowingly ordering food that would cause BIL to suffer a meltdown. (2/2)

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    Carole Reid
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would be the last time I would ever spend any time with him.

    bottomless.abyss.of.bordem
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Change your name to Chip and always have a bag ready. Everyone else in this story is the a**(***

    Aroace tiger (she/they/he)
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok so I might be autistic so idk if this is normal or not but not to this extent (idk how to word this better) but I am sometimes a bit noise sensitive and can't do anything about it really. I sometimes lash out at people speaking and get really upset and I can't do anything to calm down... Idk this has gone off topic but noise sensitivity can be an issue to I get y he was upset

    Mysteria
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bro I totally get that. I’m also thinking I might be autistic (or at the very least ADHD with some autistic traits). I have the same thing. I can listen to loud music fine but when people start talking loudly (especially as a big group) or someone randomly screams next to me it just feels weird in my head and I guess it’s overstimulation? Yeah idk. But I also get really irritated and upset when this happens which sucks cuz my mom is a naturally loud speaker.

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    Abigail Cohen
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok I have autism Misphonia adhd and other stuff + sensitivity and bat ears but even I am someone who is emotional and can overreact but I'm not a control freak

    Laughing Reaper
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Quick note: Black olives originate from Greece, not Spain. Little drama brat should get his facts straight

    Laughing Reaper
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, therefore a couple things here… 1. As a 40 year old with autism and misophonia I want to state that that the BIL is 100% weaponising his problems to be the center of attention. Probably due to being used to being mommy, daddy, and sister’s special little guy because 2. They are 100% enabling the behaviour by continuously allowing and defend it 3. Making everyone EXCEPT the husband the AH.

    Jungle Empress 85
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. Every time I read a story about autism being used as an excuse for bad behavior I have to remind myself that there's nothing wrong with me. I don't like certain noises either but I just do my best to ignore them (and maybe text my mom to complain, LOL). Shame on the BIL for exploiting his "senstivities" and shame on the family for enabling him!

    Kim Kermes
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nachos were invented in the US. We can put anything on them we want.

    Mary Bricklin
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Huh. Didn't know that there was a word for it. Anyways, OP is definitely not the AH.

    Whitefox
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA.. I have misophonia. There are absolutely sounds that are like nails on a chalkboard and that cause irrational anger when I hear them. Over the years I have learned how to cope with it when it happens. It is fully on me to deal with it as no one is doing it on purpose!!

    Mark Fuller
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Autism or not, waiting to watch some influencers live stream??!! Whatever.

    TheKitKatLizard
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People eating in a restaurant??? The horror!!! Also, many Mexican things are partially from Spain....

    CHRISTY SMITH
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the guy, himself, can eat crunchy chips, etc, then he’s completely full of s**t acting like it’s a mortal sin if someone else does.

    Kristi
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA.. you knew your BIL has medical issues but you flat out ignored it... you knew it would cause a problem yet you still did it... there is a thing called decency and humanity... maybe look it up? You dont have to cater to his every whim.. and adding to the fact that this was an Easter dinner but yet you still acted this way to a family member? I bet you are the type of Ahole that would go out of your way to order nuts when someone has an allergy.. I mean to act this way at Easter dinner? I mean if this would have been at something like a football watch party then i could actually take your side... but Easter dinner lol yeah you suck.. yes I keep mentioning Easter dinner just to point out what an AH you really are

    Mysteria
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the BIL needs to learn that just because he is autistic does not mean he can start shrieking in a nacho bar (which he knew would have crunchy food cuz duh nacho bar) and complain about the crunching sounds. He should’ve at least came to the restaurant with headphones.

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    Scrolling Panda
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Problem isn't that BIL is autistic, its that hes a man whose been raised2expect2b 100% in control of other people all the time+has never been told NO+has never had boundaries set4him. Similarly, women r raised2accept this behavior from men+do WHATEVER is necessary (and urge others2do whatever is necessary) 2avoid having men explode@them4any perceived slight,even if this means rolling over+taking it,holding their tongue,or giving up on living 99% of their lives(food,friends,fashion,music,etc totally controlled by man.)Ur FIL clearly thinks his son is entitled2this power+your MIL+wife were abused+conditioned into walking on glass their entire lives2avoid a human bomb going off,but you should make it clear he isn't entitled to that power over YOU.That family needs therapy with a trained specialist that can teach them2set good boundaries with their son.You CAN+should set boundaries with him in YOUR life. I'd consider therapy4u+ur wife 2help her learn it's OK2live w/o walking on glass.

    Jonny S
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F**k him. Order more. He needs to learn to deal with it.

    smithyjones
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. If BIL is triggered by olives, he needs to be institutionalized.

    Sabrina Longo
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    "This creep" In-laws could probably do a better job handling the problems. Communicate better and headphones but if dude is using the "this creep" to describe him I'm betting deeper problems are at play. Oh but he regretted using those words? Well sounds like someone is bad at communicating and regulating his emotions when triggered. Huh thats familiar. See how people give a pass to themselves but expect better from others. I wont say a.h but everyone here has work to do.

    Pedantic Panda
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    He may not have picked up on the hints but definitely should not have reacted as he did. BIL had autism which often comes with sensory needs and author seems to be totally ignorant of this condition. Make allowances for peoples's needs.

    Natalie H
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, MOM & DAD should have insisted on eating takeout at home if this is an actual issue. What if the table next to them in the restaurant crunched nachos with black olives?? If the dude is old enough to stay home by himself and watch TikTok, then he’s old enough to stay home next time, or put some effing earplugs in and behave himself.

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    Shannon Stephens
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    1as a mother to a child with autism calling him a "creep" is mind-numbingly rude and uncalled for just like you not wanting to includ him in FAMILY dinners. Your an AH for doing that. If you've never been around someone with autism ask questions it's not that hard to be polite.

    Dddad
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son is autistic and since birth we've been teaching him that while having certain difficulties is understandable and if properly voiced they will be taken in account in order to avoid them. However, being autistic does not give him the right to be an a*****e and if a situation is getting too much for him it's totally OK for him to extract himself from the situation. He is on his way growing up to be an incredible decent and thoughtfully young man and we couldn't be more proud of him.

    Noname
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kudos to you for not treating your child like their issues govern the world they live in, and that they must adapt as well. I'm sure that this has been a huge struggle for your family.

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    Natalie H
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. This sounds like a bunch of manipulative b******t to me. What, pray tell, would they have done if the table NEXT to them had crunched nachos with olives? If this were a true problem, it seems the family would’ve taken action by just getting takeout & eating at home🤷🏻‍♀️

    Sad Quokka
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. That's not how autism works. BIL knew the nachos would be crunchy yet he ate them anyway!?? Yes, OP might have been a bit nicer but as an autistic person myself, BIL, MIL and FIL TA. Maybe MIL and FIL need training on how to deal with autism...

    Lakota Wolf
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plus in the comments OP mentions that BIL eats Takis chips constantly, so obviously it's NOT the actual crunching he has a problem with, since he apparently doesn't mind his OWN crunching sounds. Also, doesn't ANYONE in the family think it's just a bit gross and weird that 32-year-old BIL is obsessed with a 19-year-old GIRL influencer online? Or is that also just "accepted" because he's "autistic"?

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    The Doom Song
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother has autism. He is 42 and still lives with my folks. We never invite him out anywhere. It's not coz we are a******s and get embarrassed by him. It's literally because it's just easier to leave him at home with a cooked chicken and some bread rolls. He can eat when he wants and do his normal routine. Going out is just too much for him.

    Bunzilla
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Olives are Spanish and not Mexican." Uh... where does he think a lot of current Mexican culture comes from? SPAIN. (Just looked it up and apparently they're widely used in Mexican cuisine) That's the part to me that says he's pretty much weaponizing his ASD. Plus, the fact that he eats tons of Takis. He sounds pretty high-functioning.

    Linda Ward
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an adult on the autistic spectrum, my blood boils whenever I see a discussion of our "tantrums." An autistic meltdown is not a tantrum, a deliberate behavoiur with the intent of getting one's way or attracting attention; it is an involuntary reaction of the central nervous system to when it feels trapped, overwhelmed, or otherwise unable to control the situation at hand. Thank of what happens when you hear a loud noise and your senses are temporarily heightened, and then imagine living like that 24/7 and you'll have some idea of what life is like for us; and yes, I do have noise cancelling headphones, but they only go so far. I know well enough to minimize or avoid exposure to loud environments, and neurotypical people, especially parents and caregivers of autistic children, need to do their research so that they can better understand and accommodate our needs.

    Seabeast
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So why did BIL even want to go to a bar, which is almost certain to be noisy?

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    Niki A
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously? He pointed out that the olives don't belong and it bothers him, and everyone is gonna have a meltdown? Autistic or not, dude seems spoiled.

    IronySairo
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brother has autism. Life does not revolve around him. Leave him at home, enjoy your life.

    Noname
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA One of my kids has not been diagnosed with autism but has misophonia- they get triggered with anxiety over certain sounds, like eating foods like chips, slurping soup or noodles, and breathing (yes, the sound of someone else breathing triggers my kid into an anxiety attack). And while we try to be considerate of their sensitivity, as a family, we've decided to not let them dictate how we eat and breathe. They are welcome to join us and leave if they feel anxious, but we're not going to stop enjoying eating the foods we like and breathing because it disturbs them.

    Seedy Vine
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, OP. When the parents die, guess who the BIL is supposed to move in with? You and the wife, most likely. It's probably better that you brought this issue up now so that you can all plan for the future.

    Sarah Turney
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm confused BIL has the autism not you. They've disabled him more by tlnot teaching him coping methods.

    Joelle Jansen
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ESH. OP, his wife and his parents in law aren't communicating at all. His wife should've told him the nachos were a no-go with BIL present. His parents in laws should've left BIL at home, or taught him better coping skills. OP should get off his high horse and think about why he assumes someone in distress must be doing it for attention. Just because you don't understand, doesn't mean it's not real.

    Seabeast
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why take someone like that to a bar where crunchy bar snacks like nachos are likely to be sold? Is he going to freak out because strangers at the next table ordered it?

    Noname
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people just don't understand things like this and feel like they need to prove their point. I have an allergy to lobster, shrimp and crab. There are some people, like my fil, who think I just don't like crustaceans and not a real allergy. My fil cooked dinner for us one night using a frozen package of "fruit de mer" (basically a mix of shrimp, scallops, and mussels) and it was delicious, but then I broke out in hives, and I asked my fil about the seafood and he told me he picked out all the shrimp from the mix because he knew I didn't "like" shrimp. Dude, I don't eat shrimp because I'm allergic! And I can't eat anything that touches shrimp because I have a severe allergic reaction! He just thought I didn't like shrimp and believed he could remove them from the mix and I'd never know. Now, he knows I wasn't making up a story. I carry an epipen for such occasions. (I've been "surprised" in Asian restaurants too, even after asking if it's crustacean free.)

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    Smiles x
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have Autism... This is not how that works. I also have an issue where certain noises make me see colors, so imagine eating a french fry that quite suddenly looks brown and blue. I do not make people stop their life because I am unhappy... Unless it is smoking because that is just gross and should be counted as murder as it affects other people.

    Lyone Fein
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I personally think ESH. Especially because by 32, a person and his parents should have numerous management skills and strategies in place. But also the OP should not be using terms like creep to describe someone with a disability.

    Sheena Leversedge Wood
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. I'm autistic. and while I'm an adventurous eater there are some very normal things I know from experience I can't tolerate eating. I'll try most foods, and if they don't work for me, then I know they don't work for me. but I don't for one minute think that me being autistic should affect what other people are allowed to eat

    Shawna Burt
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. My sensory issues are real, yes, but they don't mean I get to control what other people eat. BIL is a manipulative asshat, 100%, and the whole damn family are enabling him.

    AngelWingsYT
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Even if she told him in the past she tiptoed around it in the now rather than remind him. Also they should be denied foods because of one person. Have him wear noise cancelling headphones! He shouldn't get to dictate everyones meals cause "it crunches" "its smells weird" "it has something on it i disagree with" ect. Edit: the fact the fam cater to this rather than get him needed help to both work with what triggers him and not have to change their way of life only cements this behavior n marks it as ok

    TheKitKatLizard
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, if you're this sensitive about what other people eat around you, why even go to a restaurant? Especially if you're not willing to make changes for yourself (like wearing headphones) or even actually communicate beforehand and instead just expect everyone around you to magically accommodate you/your child?

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    OmBoyGanesh
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To preface what I’m about to say: the vast majority of human beings are not a******s. Whether they’re neurotypical or neurodivergent, a genius or partially deaf in the left ear. People typically are not a******s no matter what abilities and differences they have. With that said: people with different abilities have the same propensity for being d***s as anyone else. When it comes to spectrum -related behaviors, we tend to go a little far negating the possibility of them being an a*****e. It’s demeaning, pandering, condescending & unfair to not allow for someone’s behavior to be assholish just cos they’re in the spectrum. My friend had Asperger’s and is high-functioning. He’s also a manipulative prick at times. They aren’t the same nor are they cause/effect. He can just be a d**k when he doesn’t get his way. And he knows it. When people rationalize & excuse his assholeness as his Asperger’s it hurts him. As in both perpetually, but it hurts his feelings. He’ll vocalize this, too.

    Iblowsheep_V3.2
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. the family is. Even if these conditions are not exaggerated, they should know better than to even bring him into that type of environment in the first place.

    day light
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand that most of you don't have enough experience with autistic people to understand that our meltdowns (which was incorrectly called a tantrum in this story) are entirely involuntary. it's absolutely devastating when it happens in public simply because it's humiliating and a reminder that we can't live our lives like the average person does. most of us know how to avoid anything that could trigger a meltdown, such as me, a person with scent sensitivity so bad I can't walk through the detergent aisle, completely avoiding any stores that sell perfumes or bath products. but there are some of us that don't exactly know our own limits and rely on other people (typically parents) to prevent us from being put in a situation that could cause a meltdown. what I'm saying here is the BIL isn't the a*****e in this situation (1/2)

    day light
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    even if he is wrong about the olives aren't in Mexican cuisine thing and even if he is a fan of some 19 year old—which is an ad hominem attack to make him seem even worse in this situation—but his parents are most definitely the a******s for knowingly bringing him into an environment where he will most certainly experience a meltdown. OP's wife is a bit of an a*****e too for not directly saying why she didn't want him to order the nachos. OP is an a*****e though for his comments about his BIL, but not for unknowingly ordering food that would cause BIL to suffer a meltdown. (2/2)

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    Carole Reid
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would be the last time I would ever spend any time with him.

    bottomless.abyss.of.bordem
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Change your name to Chip and always have a bag ready. Everyone else in this story is the a**(***

    Aroace tiger (she/they/he)
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok so I might be autistic so idk if this is normal or not but not to this extent (idk how to word this better) but I am sometimes a bit noise sensitive and can't do anything about it really. I sometimes lash out at people speaking and get really upset and I can't do anything to calm down... Idk this has gone off topic but noise sensitivity can be an issue to I get y he was upset

    Mysteria
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bro I totally get that. I’m also thinking I might be autistic (or at the very least ADHD with some autistic traits). I have the same thing. I can listen to loud music fine but when people start talking loudly (especially as a big group) or someone randomly screams next to me it just feels weird in my head and I guess it’s overstimulation? Yeah idk. But I also get really irritated and upset when this happens which sucks cuz my mom is a naturally loud speaker.

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    Abigail Cohen
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok I have autism Misphonia adhd and other stuff + sensitivity and bat ears but even I am someone who is emotional and can overreact but I'm not a control freak

    Laughing Reaper
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Quick note: Black olives originate from Greece, not Spain. Little drama brat should get his facts straight

    Laughing Reaper
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, therefore a couple things here… 1. As a 40 year old with autism and misophonia I want to state that that the BIL is 100% weaponising his problems to be the center of attention. Probably due to being used to being mommy, daddy, and sister’s special little guy because 2. They are 100% enabling the behaviour by continuously allowing and defend it 3. Making everyone EXCEPT the husband the AH.

    Jungle Empress 85
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. Every time I read a story about autism being used as an excuse for bad behavior I have to remind myself that there's nothing wrong with me. I don't like certain noises either but I just do my best to ignore them (and maybe text my mom to complain, LOL). Shame on the BIL for exploiting his "senstivities" and shame on the family for enabling him!

    Kim Kermes
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nachos were invented in the US. We can put anything on them we want.

    Mary Bricklin
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Huh. Didn't know that there was a word for it. Anyways, OP is definitely not the AH.

    Whitefox
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA.. I have misophonia. There are absolutely sounds that are like nails on a chalkboard and that cause irrational anger when I hear them. Over the years I have learned how to cope with it when it happens. It is fully on me to deal with it as no one is doing it on purpose!!

    Mark Fuller
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Autism or not, waiting to watch some influencers live stream??!! Whatever.

    TheKitKatLizard
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People eating in a restaurant??? The horror!!! Also, many Mexican things are partially from Spain....

    CHRISTY SMITH
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the guy, himself, can eat crunchy chips, etc, then he’s completely full of s**t acting like it’s a mortal sin if someone else does.

    Kristi
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA.. you knew your BIL has medical issues but you flat out ignored it... you knew it would cause a problem yet you still did it... there is a thing called decency and humanity... maybe look it up? You dont have to cater to his every whim.. and adding to the fact that this was an Easter dinner but yet you still acted this way to a family member? I bet you are the type of Ahole that would go out of your way to order nuts when someone has an allergy.. I mean to act this way at Easter dinner? I mean if this would have been at something like a football watch party then i could actually take your side... but Easter dinner lol yeah you suck.. yes I keep mentioning Easter dinner just to point out what an AH you really are

    Mysteria
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the BIL needs to learn that just because he is autistic does not mean he can start shrieking in a nacho bar (which he knew would have crunchy food cuz duh nacho bar) and complain about the crunching sounds. He should’ve at least came to the restaurant with headphones.

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    Scrolling Panda
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Problem isn't that BIL is autistic, its that hes a man whose been raised2expect2b 100% in control of other people all the time+has never been told NO+has never had boundaries set4him. Similarly, women r raised2accept this behavior from men+do WHATEVER is necessary (and urge others2do whatever is necessary) 2avoid having men explode@them4any perceived slight,even if this means rolling over+taking it,holding their tongue,or giving up on living 99% of their lives(food,friends,fashion,music,etc totally controlled by man.)Ur FIL clearly thinks his son is entitled2this power+your MIL+wife were abused+conditioned into walking on glass their entire lives2avoid a human bomb going off,but you should make it clear he isn't entitled to that power over YOU.That family needs therapy with a trained specialist that can teach them2set good boundaries with their son.You CAN+should set boundaries with him in YOUR life. I'd consider therapy4u+ur wife 2help her learn it's OK2live w/o walking on glass.

    Jonny S
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F**k him. Order more. He needs to learn to deal with it.

    smithyjones
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. If BIL is triggered by olives, he needs to be institutionalized.

    Sabrina Longo
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    "This creep" In-laws could probably do a better job handling the problems. Communicate better and headphones but if dude is using the "this creep" to describe him I'm betting deeper problems are at play. Oh but he regretted using those words? Well sounds like someone is bad at communicating and regulating his emotions when triggered. Huh thats familiar. See how people give a pass to themselves but expect better from others. I wont say a.h but everyone here has work to do.

    Pedantic Panda
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    He may not have picked up on the hints but definitely should not have reacted as he did. BIL had autism which often comes with sensory needs and author seems to be totally ignorant of this condition. Make allowances for peoples's needs.

    Natalie H
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, MOM & DAD should have insisted on eating takeout at home if this is an actual issue. What if the table next to them in the restaurant crunched nachos with black olives?? If the dude is old enough to stay home by himself and watch TikTok, then he’s old enough to stay home next time, or put some effing earplugs in and behave himself.

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    Shannon Stephens
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    1as a mother to a child with autism calling him a "creep" is mind-numbingly rude and uncalled for just like you not wanting to includ him in FAMILY dinners. Your an AH for doing that. If you've never been around someone with autism ask questions it's not that hard to be polite.

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