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“My black leggings will have to be pulled from my cold dead hands,” said one redditor, when they were asked what ‘old person’ hill they were willing to die on. This unique discussion was started by a netizen going by the moniker ‘Rooster’ on Reddit, and resulted in quite an extensive list of answers shared by members of the ‘Millennials’ community.

Netizens covered all sorts of things, from a certain length of socks they prefer, to use of social media and technology, and more, showing that some things are staples for certain generations and that they’re not going anywhere. If you want to see the rest of their answers, scroll down to find more of redditors’ ‘hills to die on’ on the list below, and—if you’re a millennial yourself—feel free to upvote the ones you relate to the most.

Below you will also find Bored Panda’s interviews with the person who started the discussion, ‘Rooster’, who was kind enough to share their views on millennials’ hills to die on, as well as with Dr. Deborah Carr, the director of the Center of Innovation in Social Science and A&S Distinguished Professor of sociology, who agreed to delve deeper into the subtleties of generational differences.

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#1

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On No, you cannot listen to music / videos / calls / whatever in public without headphones.

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In a recent interview with Bored Panda, ‘Rooster’ shared that it was communicating with younger friends and family that made them ask the question about the so-called ‘old person’ hills millennials are willing to die on.

“I originally posted that question because I’ve become so surprised at how some of my friends and family—mostly the younger ones—tend to use the ‘reactions’ to text messages,” they said, emphasizing that it’s the reactions that pop up after pressing on a message for a little while and not emojis that they’re talking about. “There seemed to be a lot of confusion—and even some anger—about that,” they said.
#2

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Having a mental health disorder isn't an excuse for s****y behavior.

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45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On I hate downloading an app for every frickin’ thing. I ain’t clogging up my phone just for 1 baseball game ticket. Email to me a PDF of my ticket yo.

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“It seems like they [young friends and family] feel the need to attach a reaction to every message that gets sent, despite the fact that they’re also replying with… you know… words,” the OP continued. “It made me wonder if they perceive the fact that I don’t do this as rude or as bad manners. But I’m not going to do it because it seems sort of silly and excessive to me.

“I also have enough common sense to realize that this is probably a generation thing, though, which made me wonder if other millennials felt similarly about the reactions or if maybe I’m just getting old.”
#4

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Tips should be for sit down meals in restaurants only. I should not be asked to tip at random places like a clothing store or when I get my oil changed.

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#5

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Please give me a real menu. I understood during COVID but I really hate having to try to scroll through a whole menu on my tiny a*s phone. ESPECIALLY if it’s just a PDF of their old menu that has tiny font and hasn’t been adapted for mobile view at all. If you’re going to have a QR code for a menu at least make sure it’s mobile friendly. And NO I will not download your app.

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The redditor told Bored Panda that they really enjoyed reading through people’s answers; though, some more than others. “A lot of ‘super clever and hilarious’ people decided to reply with just a thumbs up emoji—good one! Very original—in addition to a couple of ‘okay boomer’-style replies; those stung a little, if I’m being honest.”

Be that as it may, they added that they agreed with quite a few of the answers they read. “It seems there was a lot of common consensus among the millennials on a number of topics,” Rooster said. “Some highlights include:

  1. Headlights these days are too dang bright!
  2. People shouldn’t listen to their dang music/videos or take phone calls on dang speakerphone in public!
  3. Everything requires a dang subscription these days!
  4. People need to get off their dang phones and touch grass! And stay off your phones while driving! (Lots of ‘being in the car’ gripes, I have to say.)
  5. And OH MY GOSH, people hate the QR code menus and want their paper menus back! I’d venture a guess that 30-40% of people who posted complained about QR code menus. Certainly the most common comment.

“As for what surprised me the most, honestly it was the lack of toxicity,” the OP continued to share. “The internet is often thought of as a cesspool of negativity, but the millennials mostly had gripes about pretty reasonable things and—mostly—didn’t say anything bigoted or homophobic or transphobic; although sadly there were one or two [comments].”

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#6

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On My hill is if I say I’m going to play video games or just relax all day, that means that’s my plan. I will not work an extra shift for you, I am not available for plans, I have plans. Just because you think they are stupid doesn’t mean I’m changing them.

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#7

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Reality Television did serious damage to the minds of the people in America.

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45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Manners. Manners go a long way. Having and using manners make you feel good. It is about respecting other humans beings and showing them that you do. It feels good to be polite, respectful, and generous. Manners are not disingenuous. They help others feel welcome, comfortable, appreciated, and at ease. Always use “please,” “thank you,” hold doors open for people. Acknowledge others, be considerate of other people. Wish others well. Don’t be afraid to smile first. Think of how your actions impact others. Think of the next person. Be kind. Help others feel appreciated for sharing this existence with you.

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Discussing the hills they themself were willing to die on, the OP said that, aside from the overuse of reactions to text messages, they’d have to agree with the people suggesting that driving in a car “sucks”.

“I’ve lived in New York City for close to twenty years but grew up in south Florida, so I’ve been firmly on both sides of the ‘(not) having to drive’ fence. Not having to drive is so much better, and it shows in the replies to my post. It’s a miserable experience overall—traffic, bad drivers, expenses—and it’s only gotten worse because of technology.”
#9

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On If I say something to you, I'd like an acknowledgement that you heard me.

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#10

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Dont show up uninvited, i need to mentally prepare for the visit no matter who it is. Im 37.

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#11

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Not everything needs to be recorded/photographed and posted online. Whether it’s for good, taking excessive vacation pictures or for bad, like recording arguments between strangers.

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“Every new car basically has a TV in it now, and the TV controls the air conditioning for some reason, and everybody is so addicted to their phones that they just can’t leave them alone while on the road. It makes for an awful and stress-inducing—not to mention life-threatening—situation,” the OP pointed out.

“People really need to come to grips with the fact that driving a car is by far statistically the most dangerous thing they do on a regular basis. As I said in a reply to one of the comments, people won’t go in the ocean because they’re afraid of sharks but then they’ll drive home from the beach while watching The Dark Knight on their phones.

“I wish people would treat driving with a lot more caution and respect for how dangerous it can be, and I wish we’d make it possible for more people in the US to have access to public transit like we do here in NYC. (But don’t even get me started on my public transit gripes!”
#12

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On If I ever see you hogging public space, making some cringe TikTok, I am intentionally walking between you and your camera to ruin your shot and you deserve it.

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#13

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On I am not instantly available at any waking moment just because it is technically possible for me to see your message immediately on my electronic device. If we didn't have prior plans to be in contact, please allow 24-48 hours for response to all non-emergency communications.

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#14

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On New car headlights are too damn bright.

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Discussing why it is sometimes difficult for people to accept or get used to certain things other—especially, younger—generations do, the director of the Center of Innovation in Social Science and A&S Distinguished Professor of sociology Dr. Deborah Carr pointed out that throughout history, every generation has judged the generation that follows them.

“It is often hard to put ourselves in others’ shoes and understand each other’s preferences for music, lifestyle, spending habits, and more. Also, our worlds are very age-segregated, so it is difficult to really get to know people of other age groups outside of our own family members. It’s very easy to judge those people we don’t know well,” she told Bored Panda in a recent interview.

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#15

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Automated phone systems. Let me talk to a live person.

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#16

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On People who play music at the beach suck. The rest of us shouldn’t have to listen to your noise pollution. I’m there for the sights, smells and sounds of nature. I want to hear the wind, waves, birds and s**t. Just the sounds of people playing and having fun is great too. We don’t need to blast music that covers all of that like a thick cloud. Get some headphones.

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#17

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On If I have to pick just one, this is the one I pick. Toddlers/babies do NOT need to be attached to a phone all day every day. Especially if you have to fight and beg to get your OWN phone back from them. Establish rules with your kids and stop trying to be their friend cuz you "feel bad for them" you're the parent! its up to you to parent, not a screen. (disclaimer I don't have any kids of my own but I see way too many parents just handing their babies a phone so they don't have to deal with em).

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For the OP, it was the reactions on messages and certain aspects of using technology that they didn’t see eye to eye with the younger generation about. But that didn’t mean that they were dreading using technology altogether; and, according to Prof. Carr, neither do generations older than millennials.

“It’s a stereotype that old people fear technology,” she noted. “Many baby boomers and Gen Xers were at the forefront of the tech revolution. Past generations pioneered internet dating, email, and more. Much older adults might have been initially uncomfortable with technology, but even people in their 70s and 80s learned to Zoom with their families during the pandemic.

“Many older people—and rightfully so—fear that virtual communication takes away the human touch – virtual friends can’t provide the same kind of nurturing and support as those who pay in-person visits. Older people also have fewer reasons to hop onto the newest technology. For people who are retired, they can make do perfectly fine using just the basics.”
#18

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On If you say you're going to be somewhere, please show up. I understand things happen, but it seems like ghosting is just casual and accepted.

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#19

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Paying 1000 dollars for a phone is unnecessary.

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#20

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Kids need to stop “diagnosing” themselves with all sorts of mental health conditions. Half the kids I meet casually talk about their adhd and/or autism. I understand seeking a medical diagnosis is inaccessible for a small number of people (due to finances, parental denial, etc) but it is not 50% of teenagers. There is a reason why we have diagnostic criteria. Being forgetful happens to us all sometimes. So does getting distracted in the middle of doing a task. That does not mean we all have adhd. So many kids I meet are self-diagnosing based on a 30-second TikTok they saw. Many 20-somethings I know are doing it as well.

On a related note, the overuse and misuse of “therapy language” also needs to stop. Someone who pushes back on you when you say something inaccurate is not an “abuser”. You can’t set a “boundary” that you get breaks whenever you want at work to play on your phone. Like, come on.

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But when discussing people’s relationships with technology and other aspects of modern-day life, it’s important to keep in mind that no matter the generation, people are all different, and millennials are no exception.

“There is no single type of millennials,” Prof. Carr emphasized. “This generation is very diverse with respect to age, gender identity and sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, education, national origin, economic resources, and more. They did share some pivotal experiences that have shaped them, however. They were very young when the 9/11 attacks occurred, and their childhood and adolescent years were punctuated by high-visibility school shootings. Many were young adults launching their careers and marriages when the pandemic struck. So, they have faced major challenges throughout their lives, with technology being a double-edged sword. Some use technology to cope and connect, whereas for others it’s a source of pressure, FOMO, bullying and more.”
#21

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On This work text should be a work email. Do not text me on my personal number about work related things. Especially during non work hours.

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#22

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On We do not need to follow every single trend we see on the internet.

Just because it's a trend does not mean you must do it.

No, you DON'T need the new expensive super big gulp metal cup that comes in an array of colors.

No, you DON'T need to buy a bunch of clear plastic/glass containers to restock your fridge/pantry when food ALREADY comes in containers.

No, you DON'T need make your home look like it came from a magazine or sad beige channel.

No, you DON'T need a 100 step skincare routine.

No, you DON'T need to get filler just because your face is maturing out of teen hood.

Trends come and go, and thanks to our ever shortening attention spans, they go almost as soon as they come.

Pretty soon, people will regret spending all their time and money on those trends and then move on to the next big trend that will leave them equally, if not more, unfulfilled.

Just be happy with what you have.

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#23

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On When you are sharing the sidewalk with other human beings, look where you're going instead of your phone screen. Nobody has to move out of your way because you're too busy to raise your head.

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While no two people are exactly the same, they might share certain views or opinions, shaped by significant events of their time. “The historical events—whether wars, pandemics, or economic recessions—that strike during their formative years can create tremendous obstacles (or offer tremendous opportunities) as young adults pursue goals like school, jobs, home ownership and more,” Prof. Deborah Carr pointed out.

“Some generations have greater historical luck than others. It’s important to recognize that our successes are not due solely to personal strengths or ‘grit’ and to acknowledge the historical benefits (or disadvantages) that different generations face. Most people are doing their best to carve out meaningful lives, sometimes against the odds. Judging generations as weak, narrow-minded, selfish, or any of the negative labels bandied about is just counterproductive and based on stereotype rather than fact.”

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#24

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Writing notes by hand on paper helps me remember better than typing notes.

Paper books are better than kindles for the same reason- I remember what I’m reading and where things are on the page.

QR codes suck.

I miss magazines and the way they smelled. Getting a big fat Cosmo or rolling stone in the mail and knowing I had reading material for at least a week and then could cut up the pages for Look Books or collages.

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#25

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Why does everything have to be abbreviated? Our smartphones dang near type for us yet I still get messages that I have to use my Captain Planet decoder ring to decipher!

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#26

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Multiple times per week I have to beep at someone in front of me to go because the light has turned green. I even given them a 3-5 second grace period before I do it. Get off your f*****g phone!!!

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#27

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Ignoring your dog for hours while they bark at obscene hours of the night and throughout the day. Take care of your damn PET. It’s not an ornamental decoration for your family photos. Plus I need sleep to deal with my crabby-the-world-is-ending teen’s drama and hormonal filled life. While we’re talking about animals, spay and neuter your pets. I’m tired of seeing the euthanasia list daily for my local shelter because people are careless or want to make a quick buck before dumping them.

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#28

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Sometimes being mean is necessary. I’m tired of this notion that we should NEVER be mean to people. Obviously not unnecessary cruelty, but being mean to get a point across to someone pressing boundaries shouldn’t be seen as rude.

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#29

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On The environment. I’m not that old but def getting there. Can’t fing believe how stupid people are about destroying our planet. It’s infuriating, selfish, and pathetic.

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#30

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On I get so angry when I see people using their phone in their hand while driving and not paying attention to the road. Get a phone mount.

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#31

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On I wish things had fewer unnecessary buttons. A hundred functions, but I'd rather it do two functions well and last twice as long. More isn't always better.

Also, things should be built to be repaired.

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#32

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On I am so f*****g tired of advertisements. Jesus tiddy f*****g christ. They don't work on me. I just disregard them. Stop f*****g bombarding me. If I was going to use your product or previously did and you send me ads, I'll find something else.

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#33

If you need my email for something, I don’t need your product. F**k you.

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#34

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On I hate dealing with touchscreen keyboards. I don't think I'll ever be able to type on them nearly as fast as I can on a physical keyboard.

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#35

STOP SPEEDING IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND PUT YOUR DAMN PHONE DOWN!

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#36

Ok, I have another... TV's, Blue Ray/DVD players...they should have enough buttons on front so that you can use all of the basic functions without the remote.

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#37

The teenagers thinking they are funny or cool being obnoxious in the store. It’s not cute. 😑.

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#38

Wearing a bike helmet.

I remember being a kid in the 90s when it became a law in California that anyone under the age of 18 had to wear a helmet when riding a bike and it was kind of a big deal at the time. Yet, I see kids without them all the time. Yeah, they make look silly, but so does your alpaca haircut. Which one do you think will protect you from a TBI?

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#39

Current day Rap is f*****g terrible.

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#40

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On The world was a better place when it was considered taboo to talk about political views. I remember my parents would offhandedly comment at home about who they were planning on voting for and then immediately be like "don't ever repeat that at school, and never ask someone who they're voting for, that's private and nobody else's business". Now we need to wear stupid hats and hang flags off of our pickup trucks, and look at us.

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#41

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Pajamas pants as everyday fashion is *the dumbest thing.*.

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#42

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Important stuff is reserved for laptops and computers. Booking a flight, studying for an exam, etc.

Also is it really necessary for me to have 5 different apps for my child’s school?! Gotta check bing bing for attendance. Sign in to fuzzy bear for assignments. Message teachers on Atward. Like PLEASE WHY NOT JUST ONE CENTRALIZED PLACE.

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#43

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On There is no reason my appliance or television needs an internet connection.

Edit: Some of you have very strong opinions about streaming directly from the TV.

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#44

Leave your dog at home.

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#45

My black leggings will have to be pulled from my cold dead hands.

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#46

Hate doing things on my phone. It’s too small and typing stuff out with my thumbs is awful. My MacBook is the perfect communication/internet device and I can text directly from it (if you’re iPhone) too.

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#47

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On My kid needs to learn how to drive manual. I’ve got a handful of friends that their kids don’t even want to drive! I’ve seen far too many horror movies where the only way out is some piece of c**p ol car, gotta learn how to drive anything kid! 😂.

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I'm the oldest queer person at my work with the others ranging from 17-23. So, mine is related to behaviors I've observed from them and from a lot of other lgbt zoomers. I think a lot of people nowadays have turned experiencing oppression into a virtue and or like...almost something fun? (Yes, if you were wondering, all of us are white) And a lot of people treat having a fluid or complicated gender/sexual identity or being kinky or polyamorous as something that's more enlightened and morally superior compared to being like, a monogamous cis butch lesbian with a wife and kids, or a binary trans person who wants all the surgeries and hormones and wants to pass and be treated just like anyone else of your gender.

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#49

My god, the fashion is terrible. I don't care if my clothes and side part age me, at least I don't look like a GIANT DORK. (Thanks for the space to rant, I feel much better now!).

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#50

Pedestrians walking into the crosswalk without looking. You realize a car can and will hurt you and any speed if the driver isn't paying attention.

It's not a game I'm willing to play. Stop, make eye contact, then cross.

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#51

UI has gotten steadily worse since Windows XP.

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#52

If you’re going to camp, then bring a tent, and forget about trailers or motor homes. Leave your electronics and recreational vehicles at home. The more of home that you bring with you, and the more noise you make, the more you’ve missed the point of coming out to the wilderness.

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#53

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On The way that Gen Z makes hearts with their hands makes me deeply unsettled.

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#54

More like an unpopular opinion, but the further further into the new generations get the more and more I feel they just like to complain about anything and everything. Like it does not matter a Gen Zer will complain about the most stupid thing in the world. Like Eminem. You do not speak for your whole generation or anyone else’s so stop talking. Also, they are going to have trouble in life because they do not know basic life skills. And instead of getting off of their a*s and learning them, they’re just gonna blame other generations that they don’t know how to do things. And I’m honestly over it.

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#55

Wireless earbuds are trash. .

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#56

If you want to read the newspaper, pay for the newspaper. Journalism costs money.

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#57

Text message reactions are literally the most unnecessary thing technology has produced. I don't want to check my phone during an ongoing conversation to see a reaction only to check it when I get yet another notification a few minutes later with a message that conveys *the same reaction.*

Stop it, young people. And my parents. And my husband. Ok, just about everybody but me.

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#58

Stop changing how we use credit cards. First it went from swipe to chip. Now you want me to tap it? I’m not tapping it.

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#59

$ signs go on the left, damnit!

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#60

If you’re wearing a suit you should be wearing dress shoes, not tennis shoes!

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#61

45 “Old Person” Hills That Millennials Are Also Willing To Die On Apparently it’s crew / no-show socks for me. I don’t like the way the higher ones cut off the circulation (ok, maybe I’m overdramatic here).

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#62

It's funny that just today, I had a "heart" reaction from my 69 year old dad, which never happened before, but my 41 year old self has still never used such a thing.

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#63

Nothing I hate more than text responses. Boomers have really picked this up too. I told my parents I got a new job and I got a “like”.

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#64

Kiddo, you can't change your style every two weeks and attach core to a random buzzword. You need to look into your soul, your lifestyle, your likes and dislikes, and make boundaries about what goes on your body. I hate to go back in my day, but back in my day when we were goth, we only had the power of our imaginations and our DIY skills to create a look. We ripped fishnets, shredded jeans, raided Halloween stores army surplus and thrift stores, learned to sew, forgot to hem, held our clothes together with safety pins and hot glue, used white out on our combat boots, made our jewelry, used copious amounts of eyeliner and dyed our hair with kool-aid and splat. We made our styles ourselves. If we did buy something, we either had to save up for docs and Tripp pants, and God forbid you were Lolita because those dresses started at 500 dollars in those days.

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#65

“Ate and left no crumbs” or just “ate.” LOATHE. IT!

Also, Mom texted that her cousin died. PHONE CALL, PLEASE.

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