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“Respect Your Elders”: Karen Sits On Top Of Healthy-Looking Woman, Causes Her To Scream In Pain
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“Respect Your Elders”: Karen Sits On Top Of Healthy-Looking Woman, Causes Her To Scream In Pain

“Respect Your Elders”: Karen Sits On Top Of Healthy-Looking Woman, Causes Her To Scream In PainKaren Assumes Woman Is “Clearly Healthy,” Sits On Top Of Her When She Refuses To MovePassengers Watch Karen Sit Herself Atop Chronically Ill Woman As She’s “Entitled” To A Bus SeatKaren Yells At Chronically Ill Young Woman For Taking Up A Bus Seat, Tries To Sit On Top Of HerWoman Holds Back Tears After Entitled Karen Turns Her Into Her Personal Bus SeatKaren Teaches Woman To ‘Respect Your Elders’ By Sitting On Her, Gets Embarrassingly Kicked Out'Karen' Gets Kicked Off The Bus After She Tried Sitting On A Woman When She Refused To MoveKaren Assumes Woman Is “Clearly Healthy” And Demands Her Seat, Gets Thrown Out“She Literally Tried To Sit On Top Of Me”: Woman Disturbed After Entitled Karen’s Outburst
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Don’t judge a book by its cover, especially when it comes to people you don’t know. Their looks might not give away certain things that matter and making assumptions can be detrimental.

Redditor u/PigeonLoverAkane shared how a woman scolded her for not giving up her bus seat. The “Karen” based her demands on the fact that the passenger looked healthy, when she was actually in a lot of pain. Scroll down for the full story in the OP’s own words.

Making assumptions about people’s health can have detrimental effects

Image credits: cottonbro studio (not the actual photo)

This woman was scolded by a “Karen” for not giving up her bus seat even thought she “looked healthy”

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Image credits: Dobrila Vignjevic (not the actual photo)

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Image credits: PigeonLoverAkane

The thought that young people are healthier is a common but not an always correct assumption

Making assumptions can seriously offend or hurt someone as you never know what the other person is going through; especially if it’s someone you don’t personally know. But research suggests that we tend to make assumptions about the features of everything around us, both things and people.

Clinical psychologist Jennifer Guttman pointed out that individuals might make assumptions because of impatience to resolve certain situations. “In haste, people mentally make inferences without adequate supporting evidence. These inferences and conclusions may be negative or catastrophic, but people draw them in order to feel the situation is resolved.”

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The “Karen” on the bus wanted to resolve a certain situation by getting the redditor’s seat, by making assumptions that the latter was healthy and didn’t need to sit as much as she did. The woman didn’t budge even after the OP informed her that she is indeed not healthy and emphasized that “young people can be ill too”.

It’s arguably not the first, nor the last time when a visually healthy-looking person with an illness has had to deal with a similar situation. And in instances like that, not all of them might be equally enthusiastic about explaining their conditions in great detail just to prove that someone’s assumptions are not correct. That’s why it’s important to raise awareness about so-called hidden or invisible disabilities.

Image credits: Edward Jenner (not the actual photo)

A person can indicate having a hidden illness by wearing a sunflower lanyard

According to the Invisible Disability Association, “an invisible disability is a physical, mental or neurological condition that is not visible from the outside, yet can limit or challenge a person’s movements, senses, or activities”. Also known as hidden disabilities, they include different sorts of conditions, such as autism, dyspraxia, vertigo, Crohn’s disease, cancer, asthma, chronic fatigue syndrome, and others.

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To avoid situations like the one the OP encountered and to receive assistance if needed, people with invisible disabilities might wear a sunflower lanyard—an internationally recognized symbol indicating a hidden disability. The Hidden Disabilities Sunflower company pointed out that one in six people globally has a disability, and 80% of them—more than a billion individuals—live with a non-visible one.

The idea of the Hidden Disabilities Sunflower as a global symbol for non-visible disabilities was born at Gatwick Airport in England back in 2016, when the Airport Passenger Advisory Group engaged in discussions with representatives from the Alzheimer’s Society, Visualise Training and Consultancy ltd, the National Autistic Society, and Autism Support Crawley. They chose a green lanyard with sunflowers “to reflect the idea of confidence, growth and strength, as well as introducing happiness and positivity”.

Not every person with hidden disabilities might choose to wear the sunflower lanyard, so you might not know that someone nearby is dealing with an illness or certain difficulties. However, when they state that they have an illness, as the OP did to the “Karen” on the bus, there should be no space left for any assumptions.

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Image credits: Senado Federal (not the actual photo)

People in the comments shared their thoughts, some have had encountered similar situations themselves

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Miglė Miliūtė

Miglė Miliūtė

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A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

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Miglė Miliūtė

Miglė Miliūtė

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A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

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Austėja is a Photo Editor at Bored Panda with a BA in Photography.

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Ron Baza
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ideal response (easy to think of when you’re not in the middle of this nonsense like the OP was): “YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE MY COLOSTOMY BAG EXPLODE AND WILL BE COVERED IN MY S**T, AS WILL THE ENTIRE BUS.”

TMoxraaaar
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Respect your elders" is only uttered by people who do not deserve respect. Now my comment is going to be lost in the ether and I will never see it again.

Glenn Schroeder
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In most cases, anyone who demands respect doesn't deserve it, not just "elders."

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Superb Owl
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are so many medical issues that do not manifest themselves as visible signs.

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Ron Baza
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ideal response (easy to think of when you’re not in the middle of this nonsense like the OP was): “YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE MY COLOSTOMY BAG EXPLODE AND WILL BE COVERED IN MY S**T, AS WILL THE ENTIRE BUS.”

TMoxraaaar
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Respect your elders" is only uttered by people who do not deserve respect. Now my comment is going to be lost in the ether and I will never see it again.

Glenn Schroeder
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In most cases, anyone who demands respect doesn't deserve it, not just "elders."

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Superb Owl
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are so many medical issues that do not manifest themselves as visible signs.

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