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Overspending Elderly Couple In For A Rude Awakening When Their Kid Won’t Bail Them Out Financially
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Overspending Elderly Couple In For A Rude Awakening When Their Kid Won’t Bail Them Out Financially

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Money tends to solve and create problems in life. And when you mix already complicated family dynamics with money, it can cause quite an implosion. 

In today’s story, a couple of elders loved living beyond their means and spent nearly all the money they could’ve saved for their retirement. When a health issue came up, they turned to their daughter for financial aid. That’s when their emotional distance from their grandchild became a bigger problem than they expected. 

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An elderly couple loved living beyond their means and spending money on luxurious stuff

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Image credits: GEORGE DESIPRIS (not the actual photo)

Then, one day, when they both were living off their pensions, the man learned he needed a knee replacement procedure

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They turned to their well-off daughter for help despite not being that involved in her life

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Naturally, the daughter doubted whether she should give them money, knowing they once had a chance to save enough but blew it

The OP’s parents are in their mid-seventies. The mother hasn’t worked since her early 50s due to her poor health. Until then, she used to work part-time or self-employed gigs. 

The end of her working career wasn’t the only thing that happened in this mother’s 50s. She and her husband moved overseas, where he was able to get a well-paying but physically hard job. He worked in this job until his retirement at 70.

Many factors determine at what age a person will retire. One of the most significant ones is the retirement fund. The more a person has saved for it, the earlier they might be able to retire. Yet, it should be kept in mind that, in many places, there’s a minimum age when a person is eligible to collect their social security fund. For example, in the United States, the age is 62

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Regardless, the average age to retire is 63-65 in the US and around 65 in European Union countries. While we don’t know what country the OP’s father is from, we can probably say that his retirement age wasn’t so far off from the average one. 

Up until he backed out from the labor market, he used to make such good money for around 15 years. And for all these years, up until her early 70s, his wife used to manage their finances. Yet, it is questionable whether she did such a great job. 

Generally, money management includes planning expenses, handling bills, and saving for the future, but this woman had a different image of how it looks. Apparently, she spent a lot of money on luxury stuff, like cruises, holidays, jewelry, and even cosmetic surgeries. 

Now, the couple doesn’t have a lot of savings. They comfortably live day to day on their pension, but the mother is anxious about what will happen to her if her husband dies first. 

Unlike them, their daughter, or the OP, is very well off. She moved out at 18, got a degree, and has already paid off her large student loan. Additionally, her husband earned enough money in recent years for her to be able to be a stay-at-home mom. 

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The daughter lives around a 12-hour drive away from her parents, while her brother is a bit farther away. Neither of the siblings is very close to their parents. For instance, the author’s child, who is already in primary school (probably somewhere between 6 and 11 years old), has met their grandparents only 7 times. And even when they meet, the grandparents don’t actively participate in the grandchild’s life. 

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One day, the couple learned that the father needed surgery. To be more specific, he needed to get at least one of his knees replaced. This kind of procedure replaces parts of injured or worn-out knee joints with metal and plastic parts. 

He had problems with his knees for around 15 years at this point, and this surgery is supposed to ease his pain. The problem is that this procedure is supposed to cost quite a pretty penny. So, they asked their daughter for help. However, she is doubtful about helping them. 

After all, they had quite a good financial situation but decided to live beyond their means. Plus, they even had great health insurance but decided to switch to another that doesn’t cover joint replacements. Basically, they keep making poor decisions and hope that their daughter will help them so that they don’t have to use the little savings they have. 

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Also, remember what we said about distant family dynamics? The mother’s gossipy and distant nature drove her family away. And so, no surprise, the daughter and her husband feel kind of awkward about giving her money. 

So, the woman came to the Mumsnet forum to ask for advice on what they should do. Well, most of the people there thought that she wasn’t obligated to help her parents. After all, they brought this problem on themselves by overspending. And they still have some savings left they can use instead of mooching off the daughter they aren’t even close to. 

Some forum users didn’t really focus on the post’s problem, as they found the woman’s text quite rude. To be more specific, they didn’t like that she referred to her parents as boomers, which some people think is a very negative label. In her defense, the author later specified that she just wanted to clarify the generations that they all represent and didn’t mean anything malicious.

So, if the author decides to listen to advice on Mumsnet, the parents will have to do a withdrawal from their savings. And that’s likely not going to improve the already distant family relationship. Well, maybe the elders will learn a lesson about the consequences of their actions, even though it’s quite late in their lives. 

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She turned for advice online, where people told her that she wasn’t obligated to help her overspending parents, who she isn’t even close to

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I am a writer at Bored Panda. I have loved creating and writing down stories about people and things since I was little and I think this passion led me to get degrees in sociology, communication, and journalism. These degrees opened various paths for me, and I got a chance to be a volunteer in the human rights field, and also try myself out in social research and journalism areas. Besides writing, my passions include pop culture: music, movies, TV shows; literature, and board games. In fact, I have been dubbed a board games devotee by some people in my life.

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Ugnė Bulotaitė

Ugnė Bulotaitė

Author, BoredPanda staff

I am a writer at Bored Panda. I have loved creating and writing down stories about people and things since I was little and I think this passion led me to get degrees in sociology, communication, and journalism. These degrees opened various paths for me, and I got a chance to be a volunteer in the human rights field, and also try myself out in social research and journalism areas. Besides writing, my passions include pop culture: music, movies, TV shows; literature, and board games. In fact, I have been dubbed a board games devotee by some people in my life.

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Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its probably just me.. but Im so done with thr DF, DM, DD, ect.. its an idiotic abbreviation sounds super condescending and I cant take anyone posting with that seriously. Nope.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not just you... XD those abbreviations have driven me crazy since I first saw them on Mommy Blogs and Mommy sites. DS? DD? For eff's sake, not everyone knows all these crazy abbreviations; just type out what they are: mother, father, husband, daughter, son, etc. Plus, I'm laughing that she uses the "DM" abbreviation for her mother when CLEARLY she does not consider her mother her "DEAR mother" XD

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Sunny Day
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Talk to Dad before making any plans. Part of mom's stress about it could be dementia related. It might not be as bad as she says. Either way, they should use their savings as it's intended and only involve you for genuine emergencies.

AKA AKA
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

they have their own money let them spend it, it's their problem not yours

Libstak
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

12 hours apart, with a public health system and her kids being in "primary" school all adds up to being Australia. 9 years wait is exaggerated rubbish. I know many pensioners, public health users who have had knee replacement surgery, it's mostly under a year, 18 months at the outside if the damage is not severe and they can walk okay. The mother is a drama queen or the daughter is, take your pick.

Guy-Incognito
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah I thought this as well. If it's in Australia her parents lied about the public wait time significantly.

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Weasel Wise
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If OP is in the US, it's her own parents' fault they are financially hurting: that generation had free college education, they had good paying, secure jobs immediately after college, housing was incredibly cheap, and they are some of the first recipients of the social security act...the stage was primed and ready to give Boomers an incredibly comfortable life, all they had to do was make meager contributions to their own retirement fund. But, instead, after the Boomer generation has stripped every sinew of hope and happiness from subsequent generations (ie: made college privatized, refuse to allow minimum wages to go up in every republican held state, helped to raise the cost of housing to stagering levels, etc.) they now want/demand MORE assistance into keeping their lives easy and comfortable. It's take, take, take and leave the rest of us their trail of destruction and refuse. 😡😡😡

James Dethrow
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You sound like you need therapy. When was school free in our capitalist society? You mean back when everyone was drafted and the army paid for school? You sound like a cry baby.

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Melissa anderson
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her parents have the money. They just don’t want to spend it on necessities, only luxuries.

Vix Spiderthrust
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just love the spoilt, entitled whining from respondents about the perfectly common and entirely neutral phrase "Baby Boomer", in which they perfectly encapsulate the attitude Boomers get stick for.

dayngerkat
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They should use their savings, then if another emergency comes up later, help them out. Even then, it should be a serious discussion with the husband, because he is the one earning the money

Duvet Woman
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She said her mother has dementia. My mum was very anxious and worried about money when she first developed dementia. I'm totally shocked the OP hasn't read up on this terrible disease so she can work out the best way to address mum's ( maybe imaginary) worries.

FluffyDreg
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is not close to them. They've only seen them perhaps once a year. They have no reason to research their medical condition.

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Tanya Phillips
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you imagine phoning someone up and saying, "I have savings, a paid off mortgage and a retirement income.... But I'd rather spend your money on X". Wild.

Hoban Michelle
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would NEVER ask my children to financially help me. I should be helping them not the other way around.

Tori Skidori
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have a talk with the dad, and then offer to pay the doctor or hospital directly is OP can comfortably afford it. If he really needs them replaced, he is living with a lot of pain. Maybe talk to the brother about how they can chip in on the medical bills, even if not paying for it all. I mean, unless OP doesn't care at all about their parents and their dad's pain. Sounds like they might not.

James Dethrow
Community Member
3 months ago

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James Dethrow
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well help or not now, it's going to be the children's debt when the parents pass. So they will end up paying it either way.

Ginger Winters
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually the debt doesn't go to the kids when parents pass unless the parents are sadistic and will their debts off. Credit card companies and such cannot collect from anyone who isn't on the contract. They could collect from the estate before it's divided to the people stated in the will but otherwise the company has to eat the debt

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silverfish imperitrix
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3 months ago

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9 years for a knee replacement? Must be that healthcare wonderland Europeans are always bragging about

Eric Tapril
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Australia's not in Europe, champ, but hey - with the ongoing medical bankruptcy I'm not surprised you can't afford geography lessons

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Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its probably just me.. but Im so done with thr DF, DM, DD, ect.. its an idiotic abbreviation sounds super condescending and I cant take anyone posting with that seriously. Nope.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not just you... XD those abbreviations have driven me crazy since I first saw them on Mommy Blogs and Mommy sites. DS? DD? For eff's sake, not everyone knows all these crazy abbreviations; just type out what they are: mother, father, husband, daughter, son, etc. Plus, I'm laughing that she uses the "DM" abbreviation for her mother when CLEARLY she does not consider her mother her "DEAR mother" XD

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Sunny Day
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Talk to Dad before making any plans. Part of mom's stress about it could be dementia related. It might not be as bad as she says. Either way, they should use their savings as it's intended and only involve you for genuine emergencies.

AKA AKA
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

they have their own money let them spend it, it's their problem not yours

Libstak
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

12 hours apart, with a public health system and her kids being in "primary" school all adds up to being Australia. 9 years wait is exaggerated rubbish. I know many pensioners, public health users who have had knee replacement surgery, it's mostly under a year, 18 months at the outside if the damage is not severe and they can walk okay. The mother is a drama queen or the daughter is, take your pick.

Guy-Incognito
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah I thought this as well. If it's in Australia her parents lied about the public wait time significantly.

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Weasel Wise
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If OP is in the US, it's her own parents' fault they are financially hurting: that generation had free college education, they had good paying, secure jobs immediately after college, housing was incredibly cheap, and they are some of the first recipients of the social security act...the stage was primed and ready to give Boomers an incredibly comfortable life, all they had to do was make meager contributions to their own retirement fund. But, instead, after the Boomer generation has stripped every sinew of hope and happiness from subsequent generations (ie: made college privatized, refuse to allow minimum wages to go up in every republican held state, helped to raise the cost of housing to stagering levels, etc.) they now want/demand MORE assistance into keeping their lives easy and comfortable. It's take, take, take and leave the rest of us their trail of destruction and refuse. 😡😡😡

James Dethrow
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You sound like you need therapy. When was school free in our capitalist society? You mean back when everyone was drafted and the army paid for school? You sound like a cry baby.

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Melissa anderson
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her parents have the money. They just don’t want to spend it on necessities, only luxuries.

Vix Spiderthrust
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just love the spoilt, entitled whining from respondents about the perfectly common and entirely neutral phrase "Baby Boomer", in which they perfectly encapsulate the attitude Boomers get stick for.

dayngerkat
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They should use their savings, then if another emergency comes up later, help them out. Even then, it should be a serious discussion with the husband, because he is the one earning the money

Duvet Woman
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She said her mother has dementia. My mum was very anxious and worried about money when she first developed dementia. I'm totally shocked the OP hasn't read up on this terrible disease so she can work out the best way to address mum's ( maybe imaginary) worries.

FluffyDreg
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is not close to them. They've only seen them perhaps once a year. They have no reason to research their medical condition.

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Tanya Phillips
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you imagine phoning someone up and saying, "I have savings, a paid off mortgage and a retirement income.... But I'd rather spend your money on X". Wild.

Hoban Michelle
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would NEVER ask my children to financially help me. I should be helping them not the other way around.

Tori Skidori
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have a talk with the dad, and then offer to pay the doctor or hospital directly is OP can comfortably afford it. If he really needs them replaced, he is living with a lot of pain. Maybe talk to the brother about how they can chip in on the medical bills, even if not paying for it all. I mean, unless OP doesn't care at all about their parents and their dad's pain. Sounds like they might not.

James Dethrow
Community Member
3 months ago

This comment has been deleted.

James Dethrow
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well help or not now, it's going to be the children's debt when the parents pass. So they will end up paying it either way.

Ginger Winters
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually the debt doesn't go to the kids when parents pass unless the parents are sadistic and will their debts off. Credit card companies and such cannot collect from anyone who isn't on the contract. They could collect from the estate before it's divided to the people stated in the will but otherwise the company has to eat the debt

Load More Replies...
silverfish imperitrix
Community Member
3 months ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

9 years for a knee replacement? Must be that healthcare wonderland Europeans are always bragging about

Eric Tapril
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Australia's not in Europe, champ, but hey - with the ongoing medical bankruptcy I'm not surprised you can't afford geography lessons

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