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The fact that something is normal or normalized doesn’t magically make it ethical, moral, or right. Sure, it does feel like the issue has reached a point where folks quite literally don’t see it or just don’t care enough about it and everyone’s cool with that, but it doesn’t detract from the idea that it can be flat out messed up and that something definitely needs to change.

Folks on Reddit recently gathered to discuss such issues, specifically sharing the things that are widely normalized but are actually really messed up in a now viral AskReddit thread.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Child beauty pageants.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely needs to go away. It's creepy, it's not healthy. There isn't anything good coming out from that.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Having to pay for vision and dental insurance in addition to health insurance. Last time I checked, your eyeballs and teeth were part of your body and should be considered under medical insurance.

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Lew k
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having to pay 500$ a month for insurance to still get hit with a massive bill if I actually have to use it. Plus the leg work of having to send bills back to insurance 3-4 times to get them to pay because their strategy is to deny everything to get the patient to pay more.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Filming strangers without their knowledge or consent and posting it online for millions to see.

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Normalization is a social process whereby something—an idea, an action, what have you—is made “normal” and viewed as such by the vast majority of a society. To them, it just feels natural in everyday life at this point and is often taken for granted.

#4

"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Massive wealth inequality.

As long as there are people starving to death for lack of food, there should be no such thing as a billionaire.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When countries compare their GDP to Jeff Bezos' wealth, there's something wrong.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Parents posting their children’s entire lives on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok and treating them as accessories instead of people. Imagine the horror stories we’ll probably hear from these “kidfluencers” in 10-20 years time.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Working 40+ hours a week to make enough money to still be in poverty.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank God I only have to work 3 days a week (24h total) and make enough. I'm in Germany though and an MD, so I guess that's privilege

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The idea of normalization has been discussed by several notable figures, including French philosopher, historian and activist Michel Foucault. His unique take is within the context of disciplinary power and the 19th century. Essentially, normalization is a process of establishing an ideal standard of behavior and enforcing it through rewards and punishment. This way, you form a broader strategy and discipline that essentially controls society with minimal effort.

#7

"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Corporate crimes having almost no consequences.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Citing religion in government policy making.

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BrookeBT
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A separation of church and state is one thing they skip over while talking about the founding fathers

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Having children when you’re not mentally or financially stable, said what I said.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree to certain extent, as there are people chosing not to but the legislation is not on their side. "Pro life" is an oxymoron

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And you can say that there are several layers of normalization. That which is good or bad can be normalized as is, but it also changes over time and the new norms can also become good or bad as a result.

This ought to be concerning because, considering the past few US presidential elections and the media’s impact over it was a dangerous game to play as it essentially normalized controversial behaviors.

#10

"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Trying to guilt the consumer into thinking that they are the ones who can really make a difference with recycling, when 98% of all waste is industrial, retail and restaurant and none of them are big on recycling if they do it at all. Figure is from science writer Elizabeth Royte's book Garbage Land.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The grocery discounter I worked at until recently had recycling bins near the checkout so customers could leave any packaging they didn't want after paying. Guess what, it all ended in the same dumpster.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Zero tolerance in schools. Protects the bully and harms the innocent

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8 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, this is what the counselors told the school and it is one of the most stupid s**t I have ever heard, "If you insult/fight back or do something back you are now also being a bully..." I was dumbfounded. (I typed it best off of my memory)

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized The amount of plastic we use. It's absolutely insane.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The amount of plastic I saw during breakfasts in US hotels was mind-blowing. Everything was single-use only. And after guests were done, the staff just took the single use table cover and threw it in the bin with all the plastic trash. Convenience beats common sense.

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The idea behind this sociopolitical normalization was the psychological idea of repetition—a certain kind of desensitization. Repeated exposure to particular behaviors, very closely covered by the media, has great power in pushing towards forming a view that this is normal over time.

#13

"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized delivery drivers and waitresses having their wages determined by customers and not their employers. aka, living off of tips while employers don't pay enough.

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Adam S
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Again, this is only “normal” in one or two developed countries…

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Getting puppies for Christmas just to rehome a couple months later(dump at shelters).

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same thing happened during the 1st lockdown. People got puppies, kittens etc, then gave them away when they realised they couldn't look after them, when the country opened up again and they had to go back to work

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Restaurants and grocery stores throwing away mass quantities of good, edible food and not being allowed to donate it.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I found an app that I've been using for a few weeks (I'm not advertising - just saying) where I can buy food that is very close to being "expired" but still good. "Oh no! This muffin might go bad in 3 days!" Well, it's still good. They discount it, and I save money. They have surprise bags where you never know what you're going to get, but it's usually great stuff. Today I bought two bags and gave one to a struggling family who were asking for money outside the store. No food should go to waste when there are so many people struggling to get by.

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And it’s not just politics. There are studies that have determined men exhibiting stalker-like behaviors can lead to female viewers to become more tolerant of obsessive behaviors.

While many are protective of the concept of normal, always wanting to retreat to that comfort zone after a life-changing event, it’s these situations of shifting acceptance that prove just how that which is normal changes over time.

#16

"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Phone use while behind the wheel.
Every trip out is a death roulette game.
I see someone nearly drift into my lane all the time.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This!!! I drive a lot for work and it’s infuriating and stressful to have to be super alert constantly because half the people on the road are to distracted to actually drive. I’m constantly stuck behind someone who’s speed varies between 35-50 multiple times between lights because they gotta get that text in. Can’t pass them because they’re playing ping pong with the lane lines. Anyone who thinks you’re good at diving and texting, you’re not. Your driving like a jerk and putting lives in danger for a throw away conversation.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Child marriage.

Look at how many US states allow child marriages with "parents permission".

If a f*****g child can't consent to sex its probably wrong that their parents can consent to their marriage.

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In fact, having a fixed idea of what is normal seems to be a problem. Cultural theorists, sociologists and other experts agree that more folks should recognize that normal is a “value judgment and not a neutral or descriptive term.” It is so because having set ideas of what normal is in beauty and aesthetics is damaging to the self esteem of women and girls alike.

#19

"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Most gynecological procedures, as they often don’t allow anesthetics and can be downright barbaric. Women get screwed when it comes to healthcare.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They always have been. Look up how and why the chainsaw was invented. Hint: for childbirth.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Having toddlers scroll TikTok so they shut up. Hell every human under 12 shouldn't be anywhere near.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been over 12 for 50 years and I stay away from it.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Forcing mothers to go back to work when their babies are like, fresh from the womb. It’s barbaric and cruel.

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So, no, not everything needs to be normalized. Not only for the reasons above, but also there is a certain kind of overuse and subsequent misapplication of the concept of normalizing things in modern day society.

While the idea of normalizing things to foster a culture of acceptance is definitely the way to go, a lot of folks started using the word as if it’s a trend and have attempted to either normalize things that are already normal or have attempted to normalize them into a level of glamorizing it. It’s overdoing it, in other words.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Poor care of “beginner” pets like goldfish, hamsters, leopard geckos etc.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a gerbil as a teenager. Sometimes I would leave the lid off his tank and block the door up so he couldn't escape the room. Weeks later I discovered he had found a back way into my bottom drawer were I kept crappy clothes that I never wore. He had shredded some and made a little nest there. Little dude straight up made himself a holiday home. 😆

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized CEO pay.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I could live with it, if they were responsible for their decisions, but not even that is given.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Treating children like dirt and expecting respect in return.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As I usually say, they don't want respect, they want obedience.

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Not everything has to be normalized and not everything has to be accepted, despite there being a strong culture of acceptance. As it leads to a culture that doesn’t give things critical thought. Normalizing everything essentially starts to desensitize the core issues that might tie in with a particular topic.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized The fact that so many people live on the streets when empty housing exists. I don’t care what just world fallacy people want to peddle, that s**t is ghoulish and inhumane.

If there are empty homes, there shouldn’t be homeless people.

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In North America - tipping culture . It’s gotten out of hand.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I tip. I don't agree with it. But I know that the people working those serving jobs are working way too hard for less than minimum wage - it's bull**** and I hate it. But it's not the server's fault. Everyone is trying to get by in this messed up world.

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Dumping unwanted Cats off in "the country" because some farmer will take them in. No, no they won't. Farmers already have enough Cats and the existing population will typically drive off outsiders, so now you have a housecat with no survival skills in the middle of nowhere being easy prey for Coyotes, Foxes, Owls, or farm Dogs. And that's if they don't get hit by a car like happens to a great many abandoned pets.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are two "outside" cats in my neighborhood that are fed and "owned" by my neighbors. Those cats kill many wild birds. I find many baby birds dead around our bird feeders due to these cats. If you like cats, keep them inside!

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Whatever the case, normalizing stuff has to be done right. It has to be purposeful, well paced, critical and truly sending a message of what the society or the culture stands for. And even if something looks good on paper, in the long run, it can turn into something that was not intended. Sometimes, that seems like a natural course of things, but it doesn’t mean there should be a tolerance just because.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Driving drunk/high among teens. People my age (18) often mention it in passing like it’s no big deal, then I’m treated like a wet blanket for making a thing out of it. No, Kevin, you don’t “drive better high” you’re just selfish.

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Doctors dismissing severe period symptoms because it’s ‘normal’ —> if you are vomiting, cannot move from pain and passing out from blood loss they don’t rly care and usually just give you a slightly better pain medicine like naproxen which does f**k all and tell you to get over yourself. If you had these symptoms and did not have periods you’d be admitted into hospital on the spot.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or, if MEN had those sorts of periods (or just periods, full stop!) you can bet your bottom dollar that the very, very best doctors and scientists would be employed day and night, 7 days a week, 365 and a quarter days of the year, to find a solution to these problems, and hell, even find a way to eliminate even the *need* to have periods in the first place, without impacting their ability to procreate! AND, all necessary personal hygiene products associated with menstrual cycles would be FREE! (as would all birth control products!) [*blows raspberry at all those who thinks painful periods are "normal"!]

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Expecting people to be contactable 24/7 and acting like someone is rude if they don’t respond relatively promptly. Back when the main form of contact was calls, it was deemed relatively normal for people to not answer as they were busy or not home, therefore it was so much easier to switch off and enjoy other things. Now it’s expected that people are pretty much connected to everyone all the time and if you try to disconnect from that a bit it can almost get you socially ostracised. You can relate it to workplaces as well and the rise of employers basically expecting workers to be contactable 24/7.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone has a choice, silence your calls overnight and do not answer your phone if you do not wish to. WHEN it's a work call DO NOT ANSWER IT in your own time. You are are not paid 24/7....

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So, what are your thoughts on any of this? Have any norms in mind that were normalized even though they shouldn’t have? Share your ideas, takes and stories in the comment section below!

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#31

Having to send your kids to a daycare to be raised by strangers for such a crucial chapter of their development because living is unaffordable on one salary.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If those strangers are caring and love working with children, it does not matter. In fact a study of adults who grew up in orphanages mostly found them to be well adjusted adults who reported receiving good care in the orphanage. Humans do not remember most of their early years unless some trauma occurs. Bad parents are more often the cause of bad traumas than day care center workers.

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#32

The amount of pollution that the US military and oil companies commit. there are entire chunks of land that have been rendered uninhabitable by them.

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BrookeBT
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But we can save it by putting our Diet Coke can in our blue bin. It really is our responsibility. Get with the program!

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War

I'm going to pick up a gun go next door and take the neighbors stuff= Obvious psyco

We're all going to pick up a gun, go next door, and take the neighbors stuff= Well as long as you're all wearing the same outfit its fine!

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

War is nothing to laugh abot...but this description takes the cake. Exact on point.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized The amount of sugar we consume and give our kids.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember reading a research study that said that sugar triggers the dopamine levels in the brain in a similar way that heroin does and that is why it’s so addictive and hard to quit. I don’t know if this study has been debunked or not but it would make sense.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized South Africa specific answer - having your electricity switched off for several hours a day. This can range from 2 to 8 hours a day. We just organise our lives around it like it isn't a thing cause we've been doing it for 16 years now.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for this answer!! As a South African myself I am so happy that others around the world know about this issue.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Viral Cringe/Freakout videos, especially of minors.


I was a super weird kid, and thank god I grew up before social media and smartphones were a thing. I don't know how I'd ever get over my spazziest moments being seen and ridiculed by millions of people.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So they censor "drúg" but not "spaz"? Spaz is a derogatory word used against people with cerebral palsy (spastics).

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Zero expectations of privacy. We're all expected to behave like we could be recorded at any time and we wonder why everyone has anxiety now.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The negative consequences of mass surveillance are empirically proven (for a good example read "The social consequences of a mass surveillance measure: What happens when we become the ‘others’?" by Marie-Helen Maras) but these consequences are ignored so deliberately that I am beginning to believe they are desired.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Drinking alcohol.

If alcohol was discovered today, it would be classified as a dangerous d**g that negatively affects multiple organs, not to mention it can lead to addiction. It would probably be illigal to consume in many countries.

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"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized Posting pictures of babies/kids on social media.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm OK with this as long as it's with your family/close friends only. My niece and nephew each have an Instagram account where my SIL has been posting pics since they were babies. They're not public accounts though - only family and friends are allowed access. I love it because they don't live locally and I get to see cute pics of what they're up to. Same with Facebook. My account is private. I don't get people who allow complete strangers to see whatever they post.

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#41

The cost of medical coverage in the US. The insurance, copays, deductibles you have to meet - all of it. It’s so insane how much it costs to even have a baby in the US.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Canadian. Our healthcare is better for the moment (meaning we don't pay for most things....a LOT of flaws) but it's nowhere near most European countries...ours is going downhill so fast. Do not let business and privatization into health care. You have to break the bank to stay alive? It makes me sick what you have to go through for medical care.

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#42

This is coming from a woman’s point of view.. but being expected to spend hundreds of dollars on someone else’s wedding.. between buying the dress, nails, makeup, hair, shoes, bridal shower gift, bachelorette party, wedding gift, time off of work etc… it’s just a lot!! and i understand you are celebrating someone you are close with but today people can barely afford to pay their bills!!! so shoutout to the people who want all of these extravagant things for their weddings and are willing to cover all of the cost of said things!!

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#43

"Cheating On Your Partner": 40 Common Things That Should Not Be So Normalized MLMs.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In case anyone is curious as to what this means - like me - it apparently means multi-level marketing. Correct me if I'm wrong...

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#44

Sexualizing minors in high school movies. If you have to hire legal adults as actors in high school movies because you can't have a minor do what you want them to do, it's wrong.

Nearly every one of these movies could be based on college kids and it would be totally fine.

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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thing is ... many highschoolers do the things depicted there, both (or, rather, all) involved being minors, not only intercourse, but drinking, other drügs, and the like. But, it seems to be way less, in quantity, than what movies would lead to expect, ...

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#45

Predatory gaming companies making billions off of micro transactions.

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Owen
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think people are starting to smarten up to this. I won't play anything with microtransactions, and in the UK at least, it's now classed the same as gambling (although not yet enforced very well).

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#46

Spending most of our adult lives going to work, I get sad when I see how many vehicles are on the road at 5am, off to their job….

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8 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean... just because they're on the road early doesn't mean they're working absurdly long hours. I start work at 730am, but get off at 330pm (and have a 1 hour paid lunch break).

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#47

Getting drunk all the time.

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The level of consumerism people operate at. There's nothing wrong with buying a book, dvd or piece of merchandise that you genuinely want but this newer trend of buying everything and anhthing regardless of if you want it or not to "be on top of the trend" clearly shows some people are in need of something to fill in some happiness into their lives.

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