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People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic

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Sometimes the world feels like an unfair place. You can’t help but wonder why we are often supposed to do things we shouldn’t be. Like getting a call from work on your day off or being close to your family members just because they’re family and not because you like them. Or shaming coworkers when they leave work on time.

And it turns out, there are many more things that are universally considered as normal, when in fact they’re the exact opposite. It’s just that nobody talks about it. So this Ask Reddit thread has people calling out real-life examples that are “unhealthy, toxic, unfair or unethical” in disguise as perfectly acceptable.

Below, we wrapped up some of the most interesting points so scroll down and let us know if you agree with them in the comments below!

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#1

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic That you are supposed to be close to/loyal to family because they're family. My family, my mother especially, is abusive and manipulative. People say, "but it's your MOM, you only have one MOM." I say they don't act like family so I don't consider them family.

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engineer_nope.avi 2 years ago

I haven't done it to any of my family members since they are awesome and thoughtful people, but I have done it to some old close friends because of their toxicity.

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Bored Panda reached out to marketing expert and book author Alex Wong who is better known as the “Hijack” Copywriter. Wong has been on a mission to help small and corporate businesses “hijack” their client’s minds and help them to grow their businesses and sales. He was happy to share some insights into things and behaviors that we as a society have normalized without even realizing it.

According to Wong, for-profit colleges are one of those things. “I think we accept these as another means of education for those who can’t get into a typical college or university. However, the education you receive is subpar, isn’t recognized, and is more expensive than what you would receive at a typical school,” he argues and adds that they prioritize profits over everything else.

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#2

Parents expecting their kids to respect them no matter how disrespectful, rude, or abusive they are to their kids.
Edit: to all those replying to me as if I'm some spoiled 16 year old; I'm 22 with my own kids. I was constantly called a b***h and a c**t growing up, beaten, manipulated, and then told to get over it by the very person who did all these things to me. So if y'all would kindly f**k off with your gaslighting b******t that'd be great. No one here needs to hear your uninformed and well... abusive opinions. :)

Final score:

259points

Tams21 2 years ago

The experience of OP sounds particularly awful. But I've regularly heard kids getting talked down to and generally being made to feel as though their parents are somehow doing them a favour by giving them food or a roof over their head.

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#3

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Shaming workmates when they go home on time. "Wow, you're going home on the dot?" "Yes karen, cause i do my work fast so i can do my hobbies and go to the gym, while you rot away trying to impress the company that will never care about you."

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Giovanna 2 years ago

Ok, but let's use a "Kyle" in a while

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#4

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Beauty pageants for kids

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250points

Injun Joe 2 years ago

Yep, put on tons of makeup. Dance studios too. I was grossed out watching adolescents dancing all slutty. Then when they get pregnant at an early age or the parents say, oh I don't know where they learning that from... Yea, right. That's what happens when you start sexualizing your kids at an early age. Let the hating on me begin...

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The marketing expert recounted visiting Everest College back in high school to check it out. “The entrance test I was asked to complete was some simple math questions for a grade 6 student. The entire campus was empty and there were no students. It’s safe to say I didn’t go there,” he said.

The other thing that has become very common these days is payday loans. Wong believes that although these may help people who need money quickly and can’t get loans from banks, their interest rates are astronomical. “When you are charging 30-50% interest on a loan, you’re forcing people to be stuck in a vicious cycle of debt.”

He added that “payday loans are accepted because they do offer a service for those who need money quickly, but we need to better educate people on why these are a terrible deal.”

#5

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Older people using "respect your elders," as a cop-out to being shitty to younger family members and not being held accountable for it.

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Elliot Fowler 2 years ago

Full saying in my language states that "the young must respect the old and the old must be kind to the young". So if the eldar wants respect then he or she needs to show kindness first

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#6

Nurses: fighting for 2% payrise.
Politicians: "Sorry not enough money in the budget for that"
Politicians: Give themselves 16% payrise

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DelvianBlue 2 years ago

It happens in teaching too. I once worked at a school where they announced a pay freeze for all teachers because they couldn't afford teacher salaries. Then the same people gave out big bonuses to all of the administration plus raises.

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#7

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Telling people who are extremely happy over a new purchase why it’s shitty or why they shouldn’t have done it.

I had a buddy who went from an old beat up pickup to a brand new Mazda 3. It looks amazing, is a manual, etc. One of our old friends harassed the living hell out of him telling him that it was a girls car, and that he should’ve just fixed up his old beater because it was more “manly” meanwhile this other guy is literally driving a car that is completely falling apart.

My buddy looked so discouraged and sad. I did the best I could to tell him how awesome his car is, and how much better the technology is in it compared to my older Saab.

This guy worked a ton of overtime saving as much as possble while working a barely higher than minimum wage job to get a decent down payment so he would have a nice monthly payment just to have his greatest accomplishment s**t all over. It is sickening.

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engineer_nope.avi 2 years ago

I have a s**t ton of video games console that I never got as a kid that I have to save up, find great deals, and collect. Some people shamed me for it like "You're already working/22, why do you need more consoles?". "Uh, because I like them? I have to spend time and money that I earned for it so why are you giving me a hard time bruh?"

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“Unless you are the founder or one of the early investors, you have no way to succeed at an MLM,” Wong explained about the flaws of multi-level marketing hiding in plain sight. “Only a few percent of people who join MLMs have a chance of making money, and you would still be better off working a regular part-time job.” The marketing expert argues that we tolerate them because they sell a dream of being your own boss or owning your business and escaping the rat race.

“I had an acquaintance whom I met at a networking event trick me into going to a seminar for Market America years ago. During the whole 1-hour presentation, it was nothing more than a sales pitch to join them. It’s safe to say, I didn’t join them,” Wong told Bored Panda.

#8

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Teachers spending their own money on classroom supplies. Along with the mentality that if you aren't sacrificing your entire life "for the kids" that you aren't a good teacher.

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troufaki13 2 years ago

And then the parents scream at them for not giving an A to their precious little monster

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#9

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic If someone asks you a yes or no question and you say no then they try to persuade you and get hostile and then expect you to do it anyway. That's not a question but a demand. F**k those people.

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187points

Shark 2 years ago

my mom does this when she offers me fruit 💀

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#10

The school system and how it deals with fights. Whenever a kid is minding his own business and another kid beats the s**t out of him then they BOTH get in trouble. What the f**k?

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186points

Jason Marin 2 years ago

This has happened to me. I was on a field trip to some park (can't remember the name) and before we left, we got to make a craft. A few minutes after my craft was done, I got up and walked passed another student, Steve, (real name) who was sitting on the ground and as I walked passed him, I accidentally stepped on his foot. I apologized but Steve's response was to jump on my back and start punching me in the eye. The teachers got him off me and I was given ice for my eye. The next day, we were both given in-school suspension for fighting even though he did all of the hitting and I didn't hit him at all.

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Another thing that has been viewed as totally normal which is, in fact, anything but that is teachers spending their own money on classroom supplies, Wong says. “The education system should do a better job supporting its teachers. Teachers are already overworked and underpaid. To expect them to spend their own money to provide a better classroom experience for their students is sad,” he said.

When Wong himself was teaching English in Korea, his co-teacher and he would often have to spend their own money on prizes and gifts for their students. We have become accustomed to high tuition fees and high student debt without questioning it. Many students take the fact for granted.

#11

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic The idea you can't have a healthy romantic relationship unless you have fights. I don't mean like disagreements - I mean like full-on, screaming at each other, throwing stuff fights. I've had people literally tell me if you don't have fights like this with your partner, then you're hiding stuff from each other. Horrible, toxic fights don't equate to having an emotionally healthy relationship.

Edit: wow! Didn't expect this to blow up - I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this way. Also thanks for the silver!

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180points

MiriPanda 2 years ago

People call this 'passionate', when it is in fact just violent, aggressive behavior.

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#12

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic I’ll probably get downvoted for this, but porn is extremely addictive, gives people unrealistic expectations of sex, and is reason why numerous people are forced into sex trafficking

Edit: Thanks for the silver/gold!!

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180points

Syrah 2 years ago (edited)

And gives you unrealistic expectations of when a plumber will arrive

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#13

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Overly possessive significant others. Jealousy is not a sign of passion it's a sign of instability.

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Kirsten Kerkhof 2 years ago

I don't understand jealousy in a relationship. It's a deal-breaker. I told you I'd be faithful, so if that isn't good enough for you, why should I then spend/waste my time with you? You can trust me or be gone.

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According to Wong, expensive tuition fees and student debt go hand in hand. “It’s gotten to the point where you can only attend college if you have lots of money, borrow lots of money, or have amazing grades to get a scholarship. Students still believe they have to attend college to find a good job or career, which isn't true anymore. There’s also that constant pressure that if you don’t go, you will be seen as a failure or behind others who do,” he explained and added that “this is exactly how I felt.”

What makes the situation even more difficult is that even after you go to school for 4 years, it doesn’t mean you will find a good-paying career. “After I graduated from college with a BA in psychology, I had a difficult time finding a job. That’s why I ended up going to teach in Korea for a few years to pay off my student debt,” Wong recounted.

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#14

Instagram influencers and YouTube celebrities like the Paul brothers.

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164points

Colin L 2 years ago

Don't know them, and I'm not going to up their stats by searching.

59points

Night Owl 2 years ago

Lucky you and smart decision

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Linds 2 years ago

I can tell you that one of the brothers filmed a dead body (s*icide) in the infamous forest at the base of Mt. Fuji that's a common spot for it. As well as obnoxious/racist behavior towards Japanese people (throwing pokeballs at them etc). The worst part was that him n his friends were laughing/making comments about the body. Later tried to say it was a nervous response.

1point

Mike Loux 2 years ago

Yeah, don't ruin your day with that kind of negativity.

0points

Kookamunga 2 years ago

Not interested in Instagram - if I want fantasy, I'll watch a movie or read a book. Facebook is toxic and TikTok seems like a nightmare of morons and children. But I love Youtube, great animal videos, old Conan and Letterman shows, short films, documentaries and brilliant things like this: https://youtu.be/9T1vfsHYiKY

6points

Hill Branda 2 years ago

I'm too old to give a c**p about what stupid strangers on the internet are doing. I barely care what *I'm* doing.

6points

Dave 2 years ago

They are parasites and some of the most useless people on the planet. I despise them as much as I despise politicians and political lobyists.

2points

Masen Silas 2 years ago

KIDS being youtube celebs... no... just no

2points

Lady Goldberry 2 years ago

Omigod yes! This one a thousand times! And the saps who need to be influenced! The only 'fluence allowed is the one by Mistress Weatherwax.

2points

Karl Marx 2 years ago (edited)

Celebrities anywhere, the reality TV mob especially

1point

LynzCatastrophe 2 years ago

The only thing I'm irritated about is that I'm in my mid 30s and basically live paycheck to paycheck (albeit comfortably), and people younger than me get paid a lot of money for the dumbest reasons! I wasted my youth in university and will never have a retirement account.

1point

Owiella Freddie 2 years ago

How many upvotes can I give this one?

1point

Filip Burda 2 years ago

I know there's general hate for influencers here. But influencers are famous because people follow them. The problem is, that most people follow the "bad" ones. There are also influencers promoting stuff like ecology and charity.

1point

M O'Connell 2 years ago

This really only applies to the YouTube celebrities who do forfeit their dignity just for the attention, views and to build their own notoriety. It doesn't apply to the youtubers who have become famous only because what they do is interesting!

1point

Kayjunmoon 2 years ago

Don't know any. Bored Panda is my limit on social media.

1point

Lady Goldberry 2 years ago

Same, but I know about influencers.

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Jude Laskowski 2 years ago

I still don't understand this "influencer" thing. Can't people make their own decisions?

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Jennifer Brown 2 years ago

Stop making stupid people famous!

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#15

Cheerleading in high school. Was a goth weirdo girl in high school and joined cheerleading as a joke like “look anyone can do it” and those uniforms made me so uncomfortable. You can’t bend over even slightly without flashing your a*s to everyone because the skirts are so short. But it’s ok because you’re wearing “spanx” (tiny tight elastic underwear). They skirts look longer than they are because they are higher waisted. In reality they stop right under your buttcheek. We had strict dress codes at school (I once got in trouble for wearing shorts that my mother had picked out for me. They couldn’t have been that bad if my over-protective mother bought them for me) but was allowed-actually it was mandatory, for us to wear uniforms on game days/ spirit days/ whatever the hell.

On top of that, the IDEA of cheerleaders were weird. A game needs attractive girls to cheer on the boys? Part of our uniform is to be sexually appealing? So weird. I understand it’s a legitimate sport, I’m not talking about competitive cheerleading as a sport itself. I’m a black belt in Martial Arts and I remember being impressed by the athleticism of the high-performing girls. I’m talking about cheerleading as it is utilized in the school system.

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Izzy Curer 2 years ago (edited)

I've had these thoughts. Well said

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#16

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Forcing somebody who is clearly sick to go to work/school. Like oh gee thanks for forcing your kid upon us, now we get to watch the plague rip through the school.

Edit: Thank you all for the input on this. It’s super cool seeing a bunch of perspectives being put together like this.

Edit 2: Thank you guys for the platinum! It’s really kind of whoever gave it.

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NsG 2 years ago

This relates to a lack of flexibility/control over the finances of the people involved. Parent sends sick child to school because they cannot afford to take the day off work to look after the child (because they are hourly paid, or have no PTO or whatever). They are not sending their mini plague carrier to infect a school because they just can't be bothered. (Obvious caveat, there are arsehole parents who absolutely *cannot* be bothered, but Id say they are in the minority)

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Wong argues that the problem is college doesn’t train you for the work field. “I think college only makes sense if your job or career requires specific qualifications, such as a doctor, nurse, or engineer. Everything else can be learned online or by yourself. I’ve probably only used 10% of what I learned in college and I’ve never had an employer ask to see my degree. And now that I have my own business, my degree is even less relevant.”

#17

When parents tell their little girls that the reason that boy is mean to her is because he likes her. Kids keep that same energy as adults and wonder why then can’t leave that dude being a complete and utter a*****e

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Katie Lutesinger 2 years ago

I was told that when I was FIVE YEARS OLD. FIVE. Oh that boy who keeps stealing your hat and running away with it is just doing it because he *likes* you! ...in PRESCHOOL. Said kid continued to bully me all the way through to Year Four, which was when I transferred to a different school. And for a good chunk of that time I just put up with it.

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#18

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Overweight/obese children being considered "normal" or "healthy" by their parents who are blind to how unhealthy they're making their children.

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Walker Ocelot 2 years ago

So does that apply to overweight/obese adults?

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#19

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic People from work calling you on your day off.

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145points

Pan Narrans 2 years ago

Looks like an American problem. I've started my vacation of four weeks and told everyone I will only answer a WhatsApp message when it really really urgent. All other ways of communication will be declined.

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On the same note, you may wonder why personal finance isn’t taught in schools. Wong believes it’s terrible. “Unless you major in personal finance or accounting, we aren’t taught how to balance a budget, pay off debt, live within our means, and learn how to invest. I had to learn all of this on my own. I think most people just aren’t comfortable talking about money, so we don’t mind if it isn’t taught in school.”

Moreover, “The government and economy also benefit if we spend our money since it helps stimulate the economy. But it’s becoming more apparent that people are struggling, especially with the rising inflation and high costs of living. Approximately 50% of Canadians are living paycheck to paycheck,” Wong explained.

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#20

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic American work culture.

Working while sick, working overtime, poor work/life balance, etc...

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144points

Injun Joe 2 years ago

Well prices go up except for the wages.

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#21

Telling people how to feel or forcibly trying to change how they feel. If someone's sad, comfort them and let them be sad. If someone's angry, then let them be angry and work out their frustrations (in a healthy manner of course).

All my life (24M BTW) I've been told that I shouldn't be angry or that I "have no reason to be depressed". This caused me to fake happiness, and you know what it got me? It got me panic attacks, screamed at for having panic attacks because they thought I was "faking" or needed "to toughen up", and a burning anger that never seems to go away.

To this day I have trouble feeling emotions other than anger or sadness because I was never allowed to work them out when I was younger.

TLDR: Don't tell people how to feel. Emotions are human and we need to work them out.

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Mrs. Jan Glass 2 years ago

F**k this gatekeeping. I've been told I wasn't "really" abused because I wasn't hit with a non-belt foreign object. I wasn't "really" sexually abused because I wasn't penetrated with a penis. I wasn't "really" poor because we never lived in our car, only slept in it overnight once. My depression is "white fragility" or "white woman's tears." I've been in therapy for years just to acknowledge that my experiences and pains actually matter, too.

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#22

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic I'm late, but

Our alcohol culture, especially for young people. I feel like it's being normalized to over indulge in alcohol, to the point where I know alcoholics who think that what they do is what everybody does.

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134points

Lara Verne 2 years ago

The whole idea that you can't have fun, if you aren't drunk.

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It’s no secret that the grinding, hustling, and keeping busy culture is also well-tolerated in our society. This is related to the constant pressure of having to keep up with others that people start experiencing early in school.

Wong argues that these two go together. “There is a constant pressure of staying busy, working hard, and keeping up with others.” According to him, deep and fulfilling work is good but there has to be a balance. “When your life is filled with nothing but constant work and pressure, it leads to burnout. And then we feel the pressure to buy nice things, like a new car, a bigger house, or a newer phone, to impress others who don’t care about us, which only makes it worse.”

#23

The idea that men have to hate being married, and the constant joking about how their wives are weighing them down

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Injun Joe 2 years ago

Not me. I love being married. I'm more stable, emotionally and physically. She taught me how to love and love myself again.

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#24

The way people in fast food and other customer service related jobs are treated.

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BadCat 2 years ago

I'm tired of it. I'll call out anyone I see mistreating staff, as long as they aren't getting aggressive. If they are I'll call the police. I've seen it too often. Enough is enough.

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People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic The idea that a woman's value is in her appearance, what's worse is that girls I know are more responsible for this than guys

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123points

Wysteria_Rose 2 years ago

I'm still trying to readjust my self-views. There was always something on me to fix: my teeth, my hairstyle, my skin, and always my weight. People always complained that I never smiled (showed my teeth) and wore my hair in my face. I'm like, "Um, cause you always pointed out how wrong I looked, why do you think?" I'm hoping to break the cycle with my kids.

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Wong believes that “there is a problem when we are expected to work 40-60 hours a week and be grateful for 2 weeks of vacation a year. I don’t consider that to be truly living.”

On the other hand, it’s common to expect instant gratification without putting in the hard work. Wong explained that although technology has made our lives easier, it has also made it worse. “The fact that we can order something with the push of a button and receive it the next day has spoiled us. It’s made us forget that things that are worth having don’t come easily.”

He continued: “Social media has amplified this when you are exposed to photos and videos of friends and influencers living an amazing life. I think we have to remember that what we see on social media isn’t real and is what the person chooses to show us. Reducing your social media use, working on fulfilling projects, and spending more time in the real world will help us to be more grateful and patient.”

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#26

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Acting like there is something wrong with someone for being a virgin.

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119points

Return of Saturn 2 years ago

And even more, oftentimes when women are virgins, they're seen as "pure" but when a man is a virgin, he's suddenly a "loser"??

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#27

The Mommy wine culture.

I get so tired of seeing "mommy's sippy cup" and "mom's time out" on wine glasses. The whole culture of it is just silly, mom's can relax without a glass of wine.



Edit: I like wine too, but I don't blame my drinking of it on my kids.

Final score:

118points

Nightshade1972 2 years ago

I'm reminded of one I read about where the family had a cross-country move for the husband's job--she was a SAHM. In their old neighborhood, she'd been involved in a couple of "mothers day out" groups, like big playdates where the moms would bring their kids and all the moms would look after all the kids while they played. So anyway, family has a cross-country move, and SAHM thinks she's found a group where she can bring her kids. She shows up, and it's very clear all the mothers had been drinking for a while. All the mothers are inside, all the kids are outside. SAHM asks who's watching the kids. They look at her like she's stupid. "They're in the backyard!" "Yes, but who's watching them?" "We know where they are. Come, have a drink!" She stuck it out for maybe two hours before she just didn't feel comfortable anymore. Took her kid(s) and went home. Next thing she knows, word has spread that she's a "stuck up b*tch." No great loss...

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#28

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Belittling others to pump up your own self-esteem.

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113points

K- THULU 2 years ago

Funny, I belittle myself cause I have no self esteem.....

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#29

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Staying in abusive relationships, just because there isn’t physical abuse.

“I put up with it because I love him.” You shouldn’t be put through torture because you love someone.

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110points

Mrs. Jan Glass 2 years ago

Remember, we're often told that it's not abuse if he's not hitting you or cheating on you. We "have no reason to complain" if he works/pays bills. "He just took you out to dinner!" "He's so sweet to you!" "Every couple fights." "This is just the way marriage is." No. If your partner hurts you or is cruel to you or doesn't treat you like they love or like you? You have every reason to leave. I'll help you pack.

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#30

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Telling men to "man up" and "not cry" because it's perceived as girly by whoever the f**k told them. It's the most unhealthy thing to tell a person that they shouldn't feel their emotions. Bottling that s**t up can only cause harm, anger, and resentment. Let people feel their feelings for f***s sake

Edit: ok a few things here

1) thank you for the silver, kind stranger!

2) I meant that you should cry in appropriate situations, definitely learn how to suck it up for a bit than release it later

3) I'm a lady

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109points

troufaki13 2 years ago

Not just crying but showing emotion in general. Or liking kittens instead of big dogs. Or ordering margaritas instead of whiskey.

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#31

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic THE SILENT TREATMENT.

it's f*****g abusive. i don't mean 5 minutes of silence to collect your thoughts, i don't mean saying 'leave me alone', i mean pretending that your partner/child/friend just doesn't exist, and letting them crumple in on themselves for a crime that you *won't talk to them about*.

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106points

Gemma jones 2 years ago

i missed the train home and my male friend gave me his couch, i was 22, my parents who i lived with blanked me for months as thought we had gotten busy, theyre a fine pair to talk, teenage pregnancy much

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#32

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Anything vaguely labeled as "detoxes" or "cleanses". Take for example the Teamie cleanse teas. They are usually full of unhealthy diuretics and laxatives to encourage weight loss. They have been linked to drug induced liver damage and aren't regulated by the FDA. The worst part is they are receiving huge endorsements from celebrities. It's pretty easy to tell by the advertisement that the claims are pseudoscience b******t, but they marketed as health products. Call me crazy but something that can lead to high heart rate/ blood pressure, and vomiting, all just so you can s**t your brains out and lose some water weight isn't really a "health" product.

chobblegobbler898 , Drew Jemmett Report

Final score:

103points

Frisinator 2 years ago

The whole purpose of most of our organs is to detox our body.

35points

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#33

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Being forced to work for free in order to keep your job.

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Final score:

95points

Injun Joe 2 years ago

Uh...nope. When my wife is off, her phone would ring. Her boss. I just so happened to say when you're off, you're OFF. If they call you and keep you on the phone 10,15 minutes about work, they need to start paying you for that. Well her phone calls from work drastically dropped.

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#34

Facebook

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82points

OwenHasADHD 2 years ago

Facebook is like watching an elderly person yell at an empty road, and then congratulate themselves for doing it.

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#35

Not sure if this is actually considered normal, but I have seen push-up bras marketed to pre-teens and teens (known as the Junior's section here in the US) in the lingerie area of stores like Target.

Since when does any teen girl need or should be encouraged to wear a push-up bra for extra cleaveage?

Edited to add a link for Target's juniors "intimates" online store: https://www.target.com/c/juniors-intimates-clothing-women/-/N-551uz

Edit: Holy post blow up, Batman! Thank you kind stranger for the Silver!
Edit 2: to the women who still buy in Juniors sizes.. while it fits you, it isn't the target demographic that the sizes are marketed to. Ask yourself why these companies don't carry sizes for your size in women's sizes vs Juniors, which are obviously pre-teen and teen sizes and styles.

Fit and size is one thing, actual target market is another.

Meschugena Report

Final score:

76points

Rick Seiden 2 years ago

I remember when the Osbournes had their own show and they were trying to buy clothes for Kelly. She was 15 at the time. The designer or shopping assistant or whatever said that she would find something to make Kelly, "sexy." Kelly immediately responded with, "I'm 15! I don't need to be sexy!" I thought that was so powerful!

46points

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#36

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Unpaid internships

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Final score:

46points

BadCat 2 years ago

Students should be paid to go to school, too.

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#37

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Parents that want to be in control of their adult child's life. Notice I said adult child. Some parents want to continue to tell what their 18+ (or what ever age is consider an adult where you live) child to do. If they don't do what their parents say, the parents throws a temper tantrum and makes viscous threats towards the child.



People need to stop acting like parents can't be extremely toxic and abusive people too. Living with artistic parents is absolute hell that gives the child various health and mental issues throughout their whole life.

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Final score:

42points

Amber Fox 2 years ago

"Artistic" parents?

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#38

"Smile!"

"F**k you and everyone you know."

Final score:

40points

Lisa H 2 years ago

"You're pretty when you smile!" "You're pretty when you shut the fvck up and mind your own business!"

18points

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#39

Smoking. I cannot believe that in this age of medical enlightenment people still continue to smoke cigarettes; or that they continue to be available.

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Final score:

40points

Gemma jones 2 years ago

i feel the same about alcohol, i dont drink and people thnk im an alien but its very bad for you

10points

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#40

American healthcare and teachers’ salaries.

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36points

Emerald Ocean 2 years ago

Yes. And emergency worker’s salaries and basically anyone that does the necessary jobs to keep society afloat!

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#41

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic People that take too serious their instagram/any social media account. I've heard friends saying things like: don't post the photo now! Wait til x hour to get more likes and girls to see it!

Unknown_Soldier_44 Report

Final score:

33points

Alma Muminovic 2 years ago

Lol the only time this makes sense is if your making money off of it or your promoting a business.

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#42

Snooping through your SO stuff like phone, Facebook, email, wallet. If you don’t trust someone maybe you shouldn’t be with them? Or practice healthier habits like talking to them about your concerns.

gnarlyknits Report

Final score:

33points

Peeka_Mimi 2 years ago

I never felt I had to look at my now ex boyfriend's phone. Then be started acting extremely suspicious and I did ask him. He lied I knew he was lying. So I checked his phone and there were dozens of I love you messages to at least 3 other women. Shortly thereafter I kicked him out.

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#43

The bias of news media outlets today. Rich people buy broadcasting networks to control information and manipulate the masses.

It really is a damn shame and a significant reason for the problems of our time

Final score:

33points

Lisa H 2 years ago

I have recently discovered WION news on YouTube and it is QUITE refreshing from the obvious bias of American news networks.

3points

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#44

Circumcision or piercing baby ears.

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Final score:

33points

Foxxy (The Original) 2 years ago

I absolutely abhor the idea of circumcision for non medical reasons and should be illegal. So glad it's becoming less a less popular in many countries. Less than 20% of boys are circumcised.

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#45

You can buy a 50 pizza roll bag for less than 4 dollars... (We don't buy this c**p, but comparison sake) but at the same Tom Thumb - organic blueberries (we do buy) cost 6 dollars. Even the non-organic blueberries are something like 4.50 for a tiny container.

So... a poor family - what are they to do? Go for the better "value" and eat c**p, or eat healthy and it be expensive?

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Final score:

32points

Emerald Ocean 2 years ago

This! The system is so fricked up

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#46

Hospital billing. The legal system in general. Putting people awaiting trial in with the general jail population. Plea bargains for people who can't make bail. Tolerance of police who are known to have made false reports. Tolerance of "obstruction of arrest" charges that the DA has to drop. Failure to spend adequate money on local law enforcement. Tying school funding to property taxes.

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Final score:

32points

Foxxy (The Original) 2 years ago (edited)

Waiting for trials as a victim is extremely tedious. You just want to get it over and done with so you can try and move on but you have to wait 18-24 months just to get a trial date.

7points

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#47

I feel like society forces you to interact with people (socializing w/ friends.. etc..) some people just wanna be alone. I hate it when parents say “your anti social, u need to get out more.”

There really isn’t anything wrong with wanting to be alone.

I wouldn’t call this unhealthy, unethical or toxic. Maybe just unfair? Not sure.

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32points

Injun Joe 2 years ago

I deal with this constantly. Got to where I have to explain that I'm introverted. Sometimes, depending on their attitudes, I'm like yea, I'm antisocial to people like you.

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#48

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Advertising. At least in today's world. IMO, it's reached a point of being both toxic and unethical. Mainly telemarketing. The gov needs to start enforcing the laws.

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Final score:

31points

Oerff On Tour 2 years ago

The government won't do anything, because those very companies pay for their elections

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#49

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Not sleeping adequately. I hate not keeping my sleeping routine on the weekends or not getting a full night of sleep (which means going to bed by 10:30 lol), but it seems like a lot of people around me brag about getting 4 hours of sleep a night or sleep at 3 or 4 in the morning on weekends. Not healthy!

cullies , Lux Graves Report

Final score:

31points

James016 2 years ago

I am trying not to wake up a 4am every morning but I just can't help it at the moment. Even going to bed early is not helping :(

9points

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#50

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Employers discouraging employees from discussing wages.

Having to take on tens, or hundreds, of thousands of dollars of debt after highschool. I'm all for post secondary education being a normal part of adulthood, but not at the cost of potentially crippling debt.

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Final score:

31points

Injun Joe 2 years ago

They just don't want the conflict. Ok, wow, you're just hired and make more than me with no certifications or anything? Yea, that's a recipe for disaster. Happened to me once, and they didn't like what I both done and what I had to say.

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#51

The meat, dairy, and egg industries. Not a vegan, but we all know exactly the kind of horrible mistreatment that goes on and we just kinda accept it for our own benefit.

Edit: Thanks for the silver! Glad to see some productive conversation being sparked and hopefully we can all at least make a small impact :)

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Final score:

29points

JJ 2 years ago

If you can, try to find a local producer. I am really happy to have a local, small farmer in the next village where I also buy hay for the guinea pigs. She uses mobile homes for her chickens, so she can change the field regularly. I am always invited to visit the happy chickens. They go nuts over salad...

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#52

saying youre fine when all you want to do is scream

Final score:

28points

Katie Lutesinger 2 years ago

We all know "fine" stands for F****d-Up, Insecure, Nervous and Emotional.

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#53

We're really in love with the idea of being in love, and it's absolutely unhealthy.

The normalization of romantic coupling to the point where a man and a woman need to title a friendship as a “platonic relationship” to imply that there is absolutely no sexual attraction, and that “just friends” is somehow a downgrade from a sexual relationship. People feel some stupid need to ship everyone, completely unaware that some people are just fine by themselves.

This focus and desire for romance is absolutely f****d up to the point that we're willing to put up with absolutely shitty people just so we don't have to live with the stigma of being alone.

That's a bit crazy.

zenspeed Report

Final score:

28points

Strawberry Pizza 2 years ago

Can't upvote enough. The media pushes the idea of happiness as being dependent on others - f that! Make your own happiness! If that happens to include someone else, that's cool too, but at least make the choice for yourself.

8points

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#54

Thinking we're better than other people because we were born in a "better" country.

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28points

Oerff On Tour 2 years ago

Especially if that country is as backwards as the US

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#55

You can’t be friends with “this person” because someone had a falling out with them, they have a significant other, someone you know just doesn’t like them.I should be able to be friends with whoever the f**k I want but people can’t be adults

Final score:

26points

François Bouzigues 2 years ago

I never went into this, and so far (M41), i lost no valuable friendship in the process. My male BFF and my female BFF dated years ago. They split, no longer talk to each other. But both are still my very close friends.

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#56

Lying to people in order to try and get them to have sex with you.

A friend of a friend does it to women regularly and I've had a couple women do it to me; everyone seems to tolerate this behavior despite it being super violating and unethical.

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Final score:

25points

Izzy Curer 2 years ago

Like... how?

3points

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#57

Unpaid maternity leave

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23points

Henry Myers 2 years ago

Agreed. Especially since having a baby means you need a lot more money

1point

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#58

Hot mess parents who don't have their s**t together.

Now, before I am raked across the coals let me explain. I am speaking about how the positive effort to not mom shame and the reality that moms are not perfect has swung too far. It is now becoming acceptable to excuse awful mothers/parenting because people keep claiming we cannot "mom shame." When a parent is neglectful, puts too much time and effort into anything but their kids, irresponsible and doesn't provide a decent environment for their kids, that isn't a good thing and shouldn't be given a free pass with a witty saying of "don't mom shame." I see mom's bragging that they haven't done laundry in weeks, forgot to pack their kids lunch again and their kids have eaten fast food every night because "hey, mom life is rough, teehee, let's have some mommy juice/wine." If anyone says anything about maybe you should start a load of laundry or just try to cook a simple meal, people attack them as shamers. It has swung too far. Lazy, awful parents are benefitting from it and it is toxic and unfair to the kids.

And yes, I know dad's exist too. However, I am speaking about personal experience as a mother and the mom culture.

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22points

Katy Aldridge 2 years ago

Admission of those things should be taken as a sign the mother is possibly struggling.

5points

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#59

Making some jobs completely permanent, like tenured professors or judges. Lots of reasons.

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22points

Jason Crowley 2 years ago

I have no problem with tenure for professors who killed themselves with research, study and work to get a small salary for life. I do have a problem with the influx of profoundly overpaid administrators who make some managerial widget (e.g. Lean) and are the real reason US tuition is out of control. They have no real job. They do nothing and get paid incredible salaries.

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#60

The widespread proliferation of **wilful ignorance**.

Final score:

22points

Michael Largey 2 years ago (edited)

"I do my own research" all too often means "I search the Inernet until I find something that re-enforces my psychosis."

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#61

How normalized bullying and abuse is. We don't even realize just how many a*****e moves we use in common interaction with each other daily, and that's why we have so many assholes who enter abusive friendships, relationships and marriages and then destroy perfectly good people who didn't deserve that s**t.

Final score:

21points

#62

Pushing people to go into debt for "education", then refusing to give them even the jobs that require that "education".

Final score:

20points

Jon Steensen 2 years ago

...or paying so little at the job that they have no chance of paying for the education that you require, or requirering an education that is completely irrelevant for the job they want you to perform. For god's sake, you don't need a bachelor degree in anything to babysit, that is a job for a teen girl.

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#63

Jealousy in relationships. Tons of people WANT their SO to be jealous and possessive of them if people of the opposite sex are around. They think a jealous SO means they value you, but in reality it means *they dont trust you*. The threat of their SO cheating is what causes jealousy, or the insecurity that their SO will leave them for someone else. In a healthy, trusting relationship, jealousy is minimized. Healthy jealousy is when you feel like you're not receiving enough of something from your SO (attention, affection, time, etc), but someone else is. In that case, you discuss your feelings and take steps for you to feel like your emotional needs are being met.

Jealousy over all is just waaayyy too overly accepted as "normal".

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20points

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#64

The word "toxic" has been overused so much it's now actually toxic itself.

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19points

Strawberry Pizza 2 years ago

why was the first thing that came into my head upon reading this, "with the taste of your lips I'm on a ride"...

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#65

Praising grades/scores rather than the effort put in to achieving it. It trains people to give up at the things that don't come as easily to them as it does to others. Getting good grades is a small accomplishment compared to developing the ability to keep putting in effort even when there is no immediate reward.

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18points

BadCat 2 years ago

I had always struggled with math. My mom worked her tired a*s off with me with those dreaded flash cards and math activity books, and then she enrolled me in a learning centre. It all helped just a bit and she learned what it was I was struggling with, and how I learn. When my grades started picking up in math to around average, to getting a 74% (my school went by a % grade). I told my Dad and his wife, his wife just asked what letter is that? I was confused, reminding her it's a % grade where I go to school. She didn't believe me, converted my proud 74% to a letter grade around C, then said it wasn't good because my half brothers are all on the honor roll. Well good for them. Their school was on the news about heavy bullying from the honor roll students towards the other kids.

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#66

Working 40+ hours a week is seen as a good thing. F**k that. I work part time and I'm better for it, both physically and mentally.

Don't sacrifice your well being just to make society happy. Your mental health should always come first.

Edit: I know everyone had different circumstances, my comment was just a broad generalisation. I don't mean like cut 60h down to 10h. Just take the comment as you wish.

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18points

Cashme Outside 2 years ago

I mean, if you can afford to still live like that, sure. A lot of people barely get by while working insane hours. They arent doing it for the fun of it.

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#67

The grinding culture. What I mean by that are the people who constantly glorify their lifestyle of working 40-50 hours or more a week and then using their free time to work some other job or hustle. It's great that you're making and saving a ton of money, but at what cost? I just don't think it's worth it to neglect your mental health and go without enough time to rest and sleep.

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Final score:

18points

BadCat 2 years ago

I can only do that for one day and I'm beat. It's funny because the people that do it urge others that it's not healthy and unnecessary, but they go ahead and repeat the hustle.

1point

#68

People Are Saying These 35 “Normal Things” Are In Fact Very Toxic Debt, at least at the levels Americans take it on. Sometimes emergencies arise and there's no other option but continually spending money you don't have just to keep up appearances is extremely toxic.

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Final score:

16points

Izzy Curer 2 years ago

Appearances? More like food and shelter

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#69

Pressure to go to college.

There is nothing wrong about parents wanting their kids to get an education. There's nothing wrong with kids wanting to learn a lot about a subject. There's a ton of s**t wrong with creating societal pressure for kids to foot the bill for tens of thousands of dollars worth of school when they have no f*****g clue what they want to do in life.

Folks, if you want your kids to go to college, you pay for it. That goal is *your* baggage, not theirs. My parents told me constantly that they'd be so disappointed if I didn't go to school, but I didn't get a penny to pay for it. I paid $50,000 and spent four years in school so my parents would be happy. Not great.

Final score:

16points

Lisa H 2 years ago

My brother went to college and I didn't because my brother is the smart one. My parents paid for his college, but won't pay for mine because they "can't afford it." That is, can't afford to waste money on someone who won't ever have a chance at a good career because of how much I struggled academically.

3points

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#70

Parents who think their disabled/neurodivergent child is excluded from things like privacy and dignity, especially if they wouldn't post the same kind of material about their able bodied neurotypical child.

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16points

BadCat 2 years ago

This needs more context.

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#71

Codependency.

All the romantic comedies are chalk full of codependent people who are painted as heros.
It’s pretty bad once you see it- and you can’t see anything else.

Final score:

15points

Kaos 2 years ago

I don't understand how anyone can enjoy those movies. Gross

0points

#72

Anything beyond a 40 hour work week.

Final score:

15points

Gemma jones 2 years ago

lol i work 57 hours and two jobs and still have no money

5points

#73

Screen addiction.

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13points

Izzy Curer 2 years ago

👀

5points

#74

People being part of an MLM. These companies preying on (mostly) women and making it seem like they can support their families pushing these b******t products on everyone is so toxic and unethical it's sickening!

Edit: words are hard

Final score:

13points

Arlo (they/he) 2 years ago (edited)

I read this as mlm as in gay and not mlm as in pyramid scheme. Need sleep I think

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#75

The whole sidechick thing. Where it's just assumed that your partner is unfaithful, so you might as well be too. I have nothing against open and honest relationships, but damn this is another animal entirely.

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13points

#76

s******g on people you disagree with.

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11points

Foxxy (The Original) 2 years ago

Anti-choicers, Bigots and anti-vaxxers deserve all the s**t they get. Sorry not sorry.

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#77

In Brazil, students that lead a completely unhealthy routine of studying and consequently get top grades are “advertised” as role models to other students. The problem is most of them give up their lives to do that. They stop doing anything that would be considered “relaxing”, including sleeping.

They get top grades, yes, but at a high mental cost.

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Final score:

10points

Foxxy (The Original) 2 years ago (edited)

I like how my TAFE courses work. You don't get grades like A's, B's or 96% etc. you get graded as Satisfactory or unsatisfactory ie pass or fail.

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#78

Working 8 hours a day. The times where this would have been necessary are long over

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Nadia Dodd 2 years ago

I may be on my own with this one, but I've always believed in it. I'm not or have ever been married, but my belief is that a wedding is not just about the bride!!! It's also the grooms day too!!! Why does everything have to be all about the bride?!! She's not marrying herself!! There's a groom involved too!!

7points

Luna Crow 2 years ago

"Reality" shows.

6points

A C 2 years ago

What does it mean that people are thanking other people for the "silver"?

3points

Grammarly 2 years ago

silver award on reddit bc thats where the posts are coming from

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Grammarly 2 years ago

well i just saw a lot of things that my parents do to me halp

1point

Karl Marx 2 years ago

Indoctrination of children by some teachers pushing their own values e.g. veganism and discouraging debate via cancel culture.

1point

Kristy Nelson 2 years ago

Systems that are supposed to help people improve their lives, but really don't allow for that at all keeping the socioeconomic gap very wide.

1point

miranda whitehead 2 years ago

What's toxic is assuming where you shop makes you a racist makes me upset and people shouldnt shame people for shopping at hobby lobby or eating at Chick-fil-A or call them a racist for it

0points

Nadia Dodd 2 years ago

I may be on my own with this one, but I've always believed in it. I'm not or have ever been married, but my belief is that a wedding is not just about the bride!!! It's also the grooms day too!!! Why does everything have to be all about the bride?!! She's not marrying herself!! There's a groom involved too!!

7points

Luna Crow 2 years ago

"Reality" shows.

6points

A C 2 years ago

What does it mean that people are thanking other people for the "silver"?

3points

Grammarly 2 years ago

silver award on reddit bc thats where the posts are coming from

2points

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Grammarly 2 years ago

well i just saw a lot of things that my parents do to me halp

1point

Karl Marx 2 years ago

Indoctrination of children by some teachers pushing their own values e.g. veganism and discouraging debate via cancel culture.

1point

Kristy Nelson 2 years ago

Systems that are supposed to help people improve their lives, but really don't allow for that at all keeping the socioeconomic gap very wide.

1point

miranda whitehead 2 years ago

What's toxic is assuming where you shop makes you a racist makes me upset and people shouldnt shame people for shopping at hobby lobby or eating at Chick-fil-A or call them a racist for it

0points

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