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Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

For some, houseplants are just a decoration to liven up a room, but for others, they replace pets and are valued possessions like rare items in a collection as some plants have not only high emotional value, but monetary too.

So you can imagine how upset a plant lover who doesn’t shy away from spending some money to buy a rarer plant reacted when they came home to find their plants totally destroyed. Not only that, but it was done by a person who they trusted.

It happened to Reddit user plantmomaita who shared her frustration on the internet and asked people if she overreacted by banning the people who clipped her plants from entering her home and for not wanting to see them ever again.

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This woman entrusted her plants to her niece and SIL while she was away and when she returned, she regretted ever doing that

Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

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The Original Poster (OP) got into plants a long time ago and now has a collection of 35 plants that she really loves. She shares this interest with her 14-year-old niece Jenny, who helps with taking care of them.

So when plantmomaita had to go on a 2-week-long work trip, she didn’t have to search far to find a plantsitter and asked Jenny and her mom, the OP’s sister-in law. The plant owner promised not only money for this job, but also a few cuttings, which is also a valuable payment as some of the OP’s plants are not just common flowers which you can buy at every plant shop.

The OP really loves plants and has a collection of 35 that are quite rare and some of them are expensive

Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

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When she had to go on a work trip, she turned to her niece to ask her to take care of her plants as they both shared an interest in this hobby

Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

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SIL and niece agreed, so plantmomaita gave them some instructions that they had to follow and answered some questions about the value of some of those plants. At this point the OP didn’t think that was a weird question, but knowing what happened next, it should have alerted her.

Two weeks pass by and plantmomaita returned to her plants well watered and getting the right amount of light, so they were not dying, but had quite drastic haircuts that could be helped with generous watering the following week.

Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

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The OP didn’t expect to return to her houseplants having some drastic ‘haircuts’ with only a few leaves left on some of them

Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

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The OP names some of the plants that she felt heartbroken for, like her Cebu blue pothos mother plant, manjula pothos, string of pearls, hard-to-find string Of hearts, and one of the rarest succulent plants on the planet, ruby necklace. She was probably taking care of these plants for quite a while to reach the desired shape and size and it’s quite upsetting that someone thought they could just ruin all that hard work and love that was put in.

But the one that really threw her over the edge was her pink princess philodendron that was reduced to only two leaves and her albo monstera, which now had three leaves. These two plants are considered to be rare and are expensive.

The plant lover later added more information in the comments and said that the niece knew how precious these plants were for her as she saw how she took the albo monstera from a node with no leaves to a flourishing beauty. She also found out that it was initially Jenny’s idea to take some cuttings, but SIL joined later and that her first target was the pink princess, which the niece was aware she was not going to get.

Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

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So when the niece and SIL came to return the keys, she gave them a piece of her mind and demanded they return all the clippings

Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

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The woman broke down and lashed out at her niece and SIL when they came to give her back the apartment keys. Apparently, Jenny didn’t think her aunt would make such a big deal of it as she had already promised some cuttings. But the aunt was convinced that the teenager knew how to tell apart just a cutting and the destruction of a plant.

The plant owner demanded that Jenny return the plants she stole, but when she heard the answer, she realized that the SIL and Jenny thought this through and didn’t violate her plants by accident. Turns out, they couldn’t return the plants as they had already sold them.

Turns out, they couldn’t as they’d sold most of them, which indicated to the OP that they were aware of what they were doing

Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

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What is more, they told her brother, the SIL’s husband, that she gave them permission to take the plants. In one of the comments she mentioned that her brother noticed that they were bringing quite a lot of plants, but he didn’t think much of it as they said that they were allowed to do that.

The brother felt kind of bad, because he brought what was left unsold and apologized for his wife’s and daughter’s behavior, but he didn’t understand how plantmomaita could tell family members to rot in hell.

SIL’s husband, OP’s brother, was more compassionate but thought that the woman should have let it go as they all are family

Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

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The woman doesn’t want to see her SIL or niece in her house or be in the same room with them and is asking if she’s being too dramatic

Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

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As she was the only one feeling that this was totally wrong to do and had the right to be angry, she brought the matter to the Reddit court. So the judges decided that the niece and SIL maliciously destroyed the plants and knew what they were doing as they were aware of the value of the plants and, as the OP later revealed, had been sneakily cutting the plants even prior to this incident.

What is your verdict? Do you think the OP overreacted as it was just plants and family is more important? Or do you agree with other redditors who think that this was malicious behavior from her SIL and her niece who didn’t consider the plant lover’s feelings and wanted to take advantage of her plants to earn money? Let us know in the comments!

People in the comments believe that the OP has the right to be angry and she was taken advantage of

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Hayhaypaula 2 years ago

I agree with the suggestion to take them to small claims court! The best lessons in life come from having to actually face the consequences. You can't choose your family. They shouldn't get a free pass because they are relatives! Had you hired a stranger to care for the plants, you would likely have no qualms taking them to court to restore what they stole and damaged. I hope your plants survived the severe pruning! Please document the damage as soon as possible with photos and printouts of the ads they placed! You'll need that for court!

220points

Hayhaypaula 2 years ago

I've thought more deeply on the particulars of this post. Jenny, at age 14, had already stolen cuttings from OP. Nowhere does OP mention that Jenny successfully nurtured those cuttings into healthy plants. Both SIL and Jenny inquired about the "value" of these plants! I believe they initially took a few cuttings as soon as they had control of the plants, with the intention of trying to get a few bucks, but soon found them to be quite lucrative to sell on the Marketplace. I would even venture a guess that they priced the cuttings way too low, and that the buyers seized the opportunity, and pressed them for more cuttings at the same low prices! The buyers may have even inquired about what other plants were available. I believe the SIL and Jenny came back for more and more cuttings repeatedly during the 2 weeks that OP was away. At first, the thieves may have believed it wouldn't be obvious they had stolen anything, but by the end of the 2 weeks, the damage was now obvious!

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Alex 2 years ago

OPs brother says family should matter more than money; well, it didn’t to his wife and daughter! This is actually NOT just about plants. This is about profound disrespect, deceit, malice aforethought and ugly greed. I would probably see them again because of my brother, but I would never, ever look at them the same way again. I couldn’t ever trust them; even with my brother ! This behaviour is on the mother. It’s an ugly, self-serving, sly streak. Very unappealing

29points

A Dasher Panda 2 years ago

"What's done is done" means SIL knew exactly what she was doing and used her daughter in complicity of the crime. It's no different than garbage parents using their children to steal in retail stores. Keep your enemies close, and keep your family closer.

20points

Susan Jones 2 years ago

My grandmother had a beautiful garden she worked hard at. The previous home owners depleted the soil of all nutrients. She hand sifted rocks out, added fertilizer, & created an oasis. She did all this with one stiff leg (childhood injury), making it very hard for her to work low to the ground. It was such a transformation that the local newspaper did a story on the hard work she did to beautify the eyesore house. I was 8 & my friend 7 when my grandma babysat us after school. We'd cut little snips of rubber plants, succulents & geraniums & sell them for 25¢-50¢ (like a lemonade stand). My grandma never gave us much instruction nor rules on what we could take. We were HALF the age of this lady's niece, significantly younger & less mature than the SIL & 14 yr old niece, yet we had enough common sense, morals, integrity, & RESPECT not to destroy the plants. So I believe the niece was old enough to know, however, tragically it sounds like her mother has poor morals.

5points

KingShitofFuckMountain 2 years ago

I wouldn't even go small claims. I'd file a police report and have both charged with robbery/larceny

13points

Marcellus the Third 2 years ago

Small claims doesn't cover the costs here, that's thousands if half-way well done.

7points

Kristina H.N. 2 years ago

It's funny they want her to let go since "family" while they destroyed and sold her stuff and keeping the money

3points

Christi Clifford 2 years ago

Agreed, this was theft and abuse of your trust and then gaslighting you that your reaction is too severe. They straight up destroyed your work and stole your product.

1point

Mary Swisher 2 years ago

Yes, small claims court is the best way to go! And you can't choose your family! But family is family; they're a gift from God! And to ban your family over something as minor as plants (no matter how much they cost) is wrong!

0points

Shabbir Yamani 2 years ago

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bean 2 years ago

I googled some of these plant species, a pink princess philodendron(I believe) the cuttings can sell for around $100 and an established plant even more than $1,000. That's insane! And I totally get this. Those are the prized possessions that have value to both her and on the market. It's totally unacceptable to take someone else's, to have someone put their trust in you, and then to ruin whatever you were supposed to take care of?

134points

WatermelonTheDutchie 2 years ago

holy s**t thats expensive

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KittyMommy 2 years ago

And the albo monstera is worth a lot more. A decent sized cutting starts around $150 on up. Full plant can go for $6,000

21points

Shea Boland 2 years ago

It can easily get even worse. That albo monstera could easily go for 5000 dollars depending on how big it was originally.

12points

Marissa Taylor 2 years ago

And thats just for the plant. You still have the added cost of soil,plantfood and everything else you need for proper plant care. Not to mention all that time reaserching and taking care of them these thevies need to be sued.no i wouldnt want them back to my house either. If husband wants to see them fine buti will not have them back who knows what else . Sue them for expanses and emotional distress

4points

June 2 years ago

Plants are a long term commitment. You put efforts, energy, and money in the process. They can be very important for one's mental health. Don't mess with people's plants...

2points

Klaatu Verrata (Cough) 2 years ago (edited)

Actually, a true pink philo starter plant can go for $6,000! Same with a true albo monstera. I've been propagating rare plants for a few decades as a hobby (never sold, gave a lot away tho). If they are true cultivars of these species, they are very rare.

1point

mewmew34 2 years ago

Looked up some, too. Makes me wish I was any good caring for plants. Would totally save up for a pink princess if I thought I could keep it alive any worthwhile length of time.

1point

Shabbir Yamani 2 years ago

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David Andrews 2 years ago

Basic facts are they stole from her. It may be plants, but it's still something of value which she owns, which they took when she was away and putting her trust in them, and sold for profit. If they had helped themselves to her jewellery and sold that, would her brother still expect her to play happy families with them? Perfectly reasonable to cut these people out her life.

132points

Parmeisan 2 years ago

Worse than just jewellery, as this was a passion of hers and she grew these plants over many years. Say one-of-a-kind, hand-made jewellery and now we're on the same page.

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Susie Smith 2 years ago

AND to send a HUGE Christmas card to them every year showing her brand new plants with her Court money raining down all over them. AHHH... SWEET JUSTICE!!

7points

MagenCrosby 2 years ago (edited)

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Sherman Von Gee 2 years ago

Dude. I have a fucken yucca plant I saved from a Walmart 10 years ago that was nearly dead (her name is Kathy Bates) and she was my first plant, they were going to throw her out n I said "no way! She's mine!" Took her home, fixed her up and she was 11-13in tall back then and now she's a full blown fucken tree... 9 ft. Tall, multiple stalks, absolutely beautiful.. she's getting planted in our yard when we move back home to Louisiana... she's not worth a lot of money... but if someone cut off her fronds/leaves... I would blow my fucken top... like, legit.... I fucken love this plant. I was so proud of myself for not knowing a damn thing about plants in general and being able to save her n hell her blossom into this magnificent beauty... so I couldn't imagine being OP n like... having dozens of very expensive Kathy bates' only for someone to steal them all and sell them and then act like it's not a big deal. That's hella f****d up. I SUPPORT TAKING THEM TO SMALL CLAIMS COURT

67points

Julian Scherner 2 years ago

Kathy Bates? Man, that's awsome! I'm naming my aloes Annie and Paul now 😁

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CL Rowan 2 years ago

Arrested. I've seen a few French Quarter gardens. They would be shot before the cops got there!

1point

Karen Holladay 2 years ago

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Katie Lutesinger 2 years ago

This isn't just theft - it's an utterly outrageous betrayal of trust. Imagine if she was a pedigree dog owner and they went and bred her dogs behind her back to the point of sickness and exhaustion and made off with the puppies so they could sell them for a tidy profit. That's basically what this is. They stabbed her in the back and caused massive harm to living things she loves and cares about just to make money. They're scum.

64points

Susie Smith 2 years ago

Had that happen years ago. Our home flooded in No. CALIF and the beeeder of our dogs offered to care for them for 3-4 months. We paid for EVERYTHING up front and throughout. HOWEVER upon our return to our home we contacted her to say we were coming to get the dogs. For days she didn't answer us or call us back. Even one animal control personnel was involved. She had bred all three of these show dogs behind our backs and when we DID get them back a few days later, the scene was dangerous. She'd been hiding them to have the time for one to give birth, and take the pups. But we showed up unannounced and TOOK them. On the way home our female was having pups in the car. Her entire family was involved. One dog she violently kept. We couldn't get him. I am haunted by the grief he had to have felt as he heard us driving away down that long, wooded dark road and he knew he'd been left behind and couldn't hear our car or our dogs anymore. She had no CONSCIENCE. I took her property. ALL OF IT.

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Steffen Rehm 2 years ago

Not holding grudges, because family, is really toxic to say to someone. Yeah, i wish too my family would be more normal and less idiotic (including me) but it is, how it is. I have no contact to half of my family because of my toxic grandmother and her abusive son (also my father). I hold grudges, or i will suffer again. Clearly i do not want that.

56points

Leodavinci 2 years ago

It's not necessary to hold a grudge to avoid being abused.

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Chas UGC 2 years ago

Yeah, it's rough. Same with my father. I wanted to make peace and give forgiveness. But he died, before I could. Try making peace, so you can lift that anger off your heart before it's too late. You'll feel better that you were decent enough to forgive. I wish that I had. I waited 25 yrs. too long.

1point

Tricia Sloan 2 years ago

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Bobbie Meyers 2 years ago (edited)

F*****g with my plants is no different than f*****g with my pets, you're going down! This is reason #1 that the family you choose is better than the one you're stuck with. Yeah, I just googled these, you bet, small claims court and out of my life forever. There is NO excuse for what they did. Scream at that mfcking teen all you want, she was the biggest betrayer.

48points

Mary Bricklin 2 years ago

There is absolutely no difference. Plants and animals are living creatures and they do a lot of good for us humans. They are family, no doubt about it.

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Lady Goldberry 2 years ago

I'm a bibliophile and have a carefully nurtured library. I would be as devastated as the OP if someone pulled the same s**t on me. Pure theft.

42points

Kyndal T 2 years ago

I read this and thought of my own books. I'd probably kill them. I can't even imagine the pain of losing even a single one. Most of them are older than me. Irreplaceable. I don't even read some of them anymore because of how fragile they've gotten. I smack anyone who so much as reaches for my books. I would probably definitely shoot them. Prison has libraries too, I guess.

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Buren 2 years ago

My neighbor wanted to 'help' me by tidying up the plant (cheap flowering plant) that I painfully grew for two years until they covered the ugly fence. Tidying means making it bald and taking away those two years' progress. It all happened for the period of two hours I went out with my dog. I flipped the s**t out and banged at their door demanding explanations. They were hiding and scared, blaming the housekeeper (who did that), saying he misunderstood their instruction to keep the surrounding area 'nice' and 'tidy'. I can't imagine the OP's wrath, especially that this was done with ill intention.

37points

CL Rowan 2 years ago

I hope you sued them back to bankruptcy over their malfeasance!

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Lulxby 2 years ago

I would feel the same way if someone were to ruin the plants that I put so much work into. I'm so sorry this happened and hope this never happens again. I feel so frustrated just reading it. It may not have been appropriate to yell at a teenager, but I admit I probably would do the same thing. I really hope they return to you the money they made off your cuttings.

36points

Jaaawn 2 years ago

Sometimes it's perfectly justifiable to yell at a teenager. Age shouldn't be a free get-out-of-jail card. Even smaller children know not to steal or be complicit in theft.

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Boreedout of my mind 2 years ago

Teenagers are not kids, if you don't yell at them or they don't face consequences for bad actions because of age it's gonna be a real shock when they grow up

15points

Susie Smith 2 years ago

Not enough. And teens who DO this have ALREADY CROSSED THE LINE between right and wrong with only her parents able to teach her. She deserved to be yelled at. Her drama queen reaction ("offensive defense"), was likely fake trying to get TLC as the "VICTIM", ANOTHER limit line she's OBVIOUSLY good at crossing, using the "poor little baby" act for sympathy. The interior garden owner taught HER AN MOMMY a much-needed AND DESERVED LESSON. 'BOUT time. Might save other potential victims in the future.

4points

Lauren Christie 2 years ago

Teenager is old enough to know better. And end of the day, those plants would've been worth as much as a second hand, good condition car. And the teenager destroyed them in order to make a buck - obviously KNOWING the plants were valuable, otherwise they wouldn't be looking to sell them, so can't use ignorance as an excuse. Imagine if a 14 year old trashed someones car in order to make money, would we say it was appropriate to yell at them then?

1point

CL Rowan 2 years ago

If she has the gall to steal, she can take being yelled at. *I* would have blistered her a**e until she couldn't sit!

1point

Mer☕️🧭☕️ 2 years ago

Niecebtch KNEW what she was doing and had been doing all along apparently and SIL knew and approved, too. While this wasn't a set-up since the poster DID invite them over to care for everything, those two thieves pre-planned and made off with the gold. I wouldn't let them anywhere near me, either.

34points

CL Rowan 2 years ago

It certainly WAS a set up. They took criminal advantage of a situation. They planned it, committed multiple felonies, and kept the cash. They BOTH deserve jail time AND must repay OP for everything they did to her!

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anthony moring 2 years ago

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Penny Hollifield 2 years ago

They (niece & SIL) were both DEAD WRONG & both complicit in what they did to her property/plants!! They are both horrible scumbags. A 14-yr old teen knows the difference between right & wrong. OP is NOT the a*****e, but that bratty, dishonest niece & her thieving, entitled mother are horrible, entitled assholes!!

8points

Mad Mar 2 years ago

So if you left them with a prized dog an then said when you returned they could have a puppy but you left and they bred the dog over and over an sold the puppies because you said they could have one when you got back it wouldn't be bad??? F those ladies. They stole. They knew an profited. They raped and sold those plants you cherished. Don't back down on them for what they did because it's just plants. I'd even change the locks in case they made a spare key. Let's hope the plants come back even better and fill you with joy and revenge for making them even better. And keep that family out.

27points

Susie Smith 2 years ago

Make sure to add a DEADBOLT!!

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Moezzzz 2 years ago

Holy s**t!!! That albo monstera is selling between $100-$1000 for a TINY one. Most are selling between $5000-$10,000!!!!! They knew what they were doing! She better get that money back!

26points

Demi Coro 2 years ago

I would have filed a police report. Theft is theft.

23points

marcie harris 2 years ago

File a police report. I AGREE. Hard Lessons need to be taught to save the 14 year old. And sue them for the cost. Take many photos. Never let them back into your home and tell your brother he owes you for the plants. If he doesn't pay up, good bye to him too. THIS FAMILY HURT YOU AND STOLE FROM YOU. JUST AWFUL.

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Potato Panda 2 years ago

Sue their ass off. Good lord.

23points

Bubs623 2 years ago

Wow. I looked some of these plants up online and am shocked at their value. This was straight up planned from the beginning. Small claims court. If the mother can do that and OP's own brother lets it happen, then there is zero chance for the 14 year old niece to grow up with morals and values- at least when it comes to stealing and hurting those you love. On purpose. Knowing the emotional value the OP placed on those plants, and stealing and destroying them anyway? That sadistic and signs of a sociopath (or whichever -path has no empathy for others). I feel so horrible for the OP and I can't even keep a cactus alive and had no clue what these plants even were. It's just simple human kindness.

22points

the awesome Piplup 2 years ago

That is theft, against the law. She should either pay OP all of the money she got from selling the plants or go to court and contact everyone who bought the plants and make them give them back (of course you'd repay them). Because this is unacceptable! The fact that she doesn't even offer OP any of the money from the plants is ridiculous😡😡😡😡😡

21points

Lemonclouds20 2 years ago

This is devastating and they've made a small fortune . I'm so angry for the OP. Trust has been obliterated

21points

Lyone Fein 2 years ago

The thieves need to give the OP all of the money they made . All of it. If they do not, sue them.

19points

GenericPanda09 2 years ago (edited)

If someone lets me down through ignorance or incompetence (for want of a better word at the mo) then that's forgivable because it's also maybe my bad in some way.. but if someone lets me down through maliciousness, or slyness, or just general willful behaviour that they know goes the opposite to my moral compass like the above then I just cut them. Time is the only thing we ever have personally that is 100% finite...... I've grown old enough to realise that I ain't spending the remainder of mine with anyone that doesn't deserve it.... cause s**t, we never even have enough of it to share with ones we would die for, nevermind the twats in life.

18points

Vivian Ashe 2 years ago

Another example of a family member feeling entitled to another family member's stuff. So much drama could be spared if people could learn to give a family member at least as much respect as they'd give to a stranger.

15points

Joan Stonich 2 years ago

Thank you, yes!

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Katinka Min 2 years ago (edited)

oh.my.God....I would not speak to this scum in years, possibly decades. unf*ckinbelievable, It is worse than theft. it's the destruction of years of work. My blood pressure is rising just thinking about it - and I don't even have many plants.And, yes, demand the money or take them to court.

14points

Lobo 2 years ago (edited)

More like never again.

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Dre Mosley 2 years ago

NTA. The SIL saw dollar signs and knew what she was gonna do as soon as the owner left town and she and the neice were alone with those plants.

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Jeannette 2 years ago

Wow. These two are really screwed up. Not only are they stealing, but they know those plants don't grow back in a day! What is wrong with people?! How would they react if you were watching their home and while they are away sold stuff. Maybe even their pets! They would freak. Take them to court. They won't learn any other way. They probably won't even learn with that, but at least you can buy more plants. There is something mentally wrong with them. Are they addicted to drugs and need cash?!

13points

Rachel Betancort 2 years ago

Figure out what market value of what you believe the clippings would be and demand the money they stole from you by selling your plants. If they do not give you voluntarily, I would take them to court. I would be devastated if someone did this to me. It's your property. How did they think they would get away with this without any clapback? If anything, follow through to teach the 14 year old a lesson. If she isn't called out on this who knows how her behavior could get worse if unchecked.

12points

Shaylin Anderson 2 years ago

That brings up another very real problem with what they’ve done. These plants maintain their value BECAUSE of how rare they are. While that’s not the only reason she cultivates & loves her plants, it’s still a very important aspect of collecting them. The SIL & niece sold the cuttings on Marketplace, indicating local sales. Anyone paying that much, so quickly, for cuttings knew exactly what they were buying. So these 2 possibly flooded the local market w/these plants, reducing their value & rarity. If they undervalued the cuttings, they undercut their value immediately. That leaves her decades long collecting efforts less valuable & rare in that city, than when she left town. The niece was definitely wrong, but I think the SIL is evil. She manipulated her kid into believing it was ok, then let her take much of the blame. I don’t think the kid would have stolen & sold cuttings w/o her mom’s influence. She’s still wrong. But, damn. Shitty mom.

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Dinetk 2 years ago

This is theft. I own several rare plants, too, like Monstera alba. They are very expensive.

12points

Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago

Theft and vandalism is what it looks like. Premeditated as well. Maybe the niece actually does have an interest, but once her mother started to hear about the value of the plants Auntie was teaching her to care for, she probably told her daughter to steal her some cuttings to research prices for. Once SIL realized just how valuable to collection was, I’ll be her eyeballs turned into big gold dollar signs. Then Auntie went out of town, and unwittingly dumped the golden opportunity into SIL’s lap. Seems like the butchered mother cebu (“looks like they just grabbed a fistful of it and cut through with safety scissors”) was probably taken by SIL—-the one with no clue how to take cuttings?—-on a day the niece couldn’t go with her, or while the niece was cutting another plant. Small claims court seems like the only recourse here. Afterward, OP can just start taking her own cuttings, by cutting them out out of her life. Change those locks and get a security camera linked to your cellphone!

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Chas UGC 2 years ago

I agree as well. If you really want your plants back, take them to court and demand replacement plant costs. Make sure to take pictures before and after of what happened to your plants. If a plant can be recovered, try to mitigate the damages. Ask for suffering, due to the time you spent raising the plants, and the time required to make them whole again. Maybe go to a plant nursery and discuss the costs with someone at the nursery. I'd be done with them too. You're supposed to be able to trust family. It's like you left them to house sit, and they stole from you, like common thieves. So, they should be treated as such, IMO.

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Lydia Rodaway 2 years ago

My neighbour is a licenced flower and plant grower. His extensive collection, including rarer species of imported Thai orchids is worth a fortune and is under lock and key in his greenhouse. They are insured but if his plants are purposefully cut or damaged, they do not regenerate well, do not propagate easily and in the long run prove worthless on the market. Although my collection of houseplants is unremarkable, I did have a guest who took cuttings of my beautiful prized string of pearls without asking and killed the entire parent plant doing so! I understand the OP'S. rage and dismay. Some plants take years of careful tending to achieve full growth and for someone to just cut off cuttings W***y-nilly for personal gain is disgusting.

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marcie harris 2 years ago

Agree 100%. Call the police. Take them to court. Demand they pay it back.

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Lara Verne 2 years ago

What the f**k. SIL simply stole Op 's plants and sold them for profit. It's not like she damaged plants by accident.

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Nandina 2 years ago

You said you would Pay Jenny and GIVE her a few cuttings. Not take whatever you want while you are here. She kept saying auntie said it was ok to take the cuttings. That wasn't the case at all. The way I read it is you planned to choose the cuttings yourself and give them to her.

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Patti Vance 2 years ago

if there is a monetary value - and it seems there is since they were sold on marketplace - then small claims court is the way to go. since niece is a minor and could be mentioned in the case it would be the SIL that would be named as the one to sue. i don't care if they are plants; they were something that the OP prized and were probably her 'babies'. i know that i love plants and there have been times that i have seen plants in places in which i wanted a cutting as a momento but i always ask. friends usually say yes. when my dad survived open heart surgery i asked the desk if i could have a cutting of plant i stared at while it was touch and go. have never been refused because i ASK!

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Ashley Kelly 2 years ago (edited)

NTA. They destroyed an expensive hobby on purpose for profit. That kid will only get worse, folks.

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j. kiser 2 years ago

"That kid will only get worse folks" is such b******t!! You have no way of knowing that! Myself & my friends (& many other people) did some stupid ish as teenagers. A few would've def been heavy felonies with heavy time had we been caught....but we weren't...& we found better directions in life & each of us became career professionals with children whom we are dedicated to teaching better than we were taught. We received no punishment because we weren't caught but to this day each of holds shame for the stupid we did. I'm def not saying this kid shouldn't be punished, she should be, but in case she isn't, you def can't guarantee or even know that she won't stumble on to a better path in life & dedicate herself to it. Just as myself & my friends did. I've know a number of young outlaws who found a better life & became better people.....Though it's often judgmental a*****e adults who never change.

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CatWoman312 2 years ago

I’ve learned a little about propagating and nodes and cloning plants as I have a friend who I would call a thief, as she clips off nodes from gardens and wherever else she could easily get her hands on one. The store we shopped at had the princess plant under lock and key to prevent thieves from stealing clippings. The plant itself was $350. This is a hobby people put a lot of time and money into for someone to just steal her hard work…yeah I’d sue for all the money they made. She definitely didn’t give consent to do this and the kid knew what she was doing.

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dee dee 2 years ago

Oh noooo! I am horrified! As a plant mum, I am so so sorry this happened. I would be devastated too. If anyone mistreated my potted babies I would go postal.

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Susie Smith 2 years ago

A BIG DIFFERENCE exists between being OFFERED something to be given by and in the presence of the gifter and TAKING IT behind their back. I feel sorry for brother as his family code is based upon his need to compromise for HIS wellbeing, rather than stand up and support his SISTER. Seems the "we're family" term DOESN'T include HIS OWN KIN. CLASS is so easy to define: whether-OR NOT-one has it is based upon IF AND HOW THEY VALUE what's IMPORTANT TO OTHERS, and TREATS them ACCORDINGLY. Heaven only knows WHAT this BONNIE AND CLYDE duo would've done had they been PETsitting some new puppies worth $1000's each, and PERHAPS being offered one LATER WHEN OWNER RETURNED, and came home to find most stolen and sold online, with two VERY SICK ones LEFT BEHIND. This woman is justified in her reaction. Her home had thieves in it and it's THAT SIMPLE. For some "family member" to TAKE behind an owner's back without permission and for $$ is WRONG. But a QUIET, STRONG "SEE YOU IN COURT" w/b better.

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j. kiser 2 years ago

Wow thanks! Without you explaining it we'd never have know theres a difference between being offered goods as payment at the end of a job & taking something without asking & selling it. You mean there's a difference between giving, earning & stealing??? Whoa!! 👉👨‍🦱💨🧠

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Leon LHeureux 2 years ago

If the items they stole are worth a significant amount of money you can bet it was deliberate theft and they planned to use the excuse that you said they could have some cuttings. Thing is you DIDN’T say that. You said you MIGHT give them a couple of cuttings. They didn’t let you GIVE instead they stole. Demand all remaining cuttings and a check for every DIME they were paid or you contact the police. To steal from family is most despicable.

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CMDR unematti 2 years ago

Sounds like a police matter, thievery, or vandalism, either way should be easy to get them to pay

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Leslie Harris 2 years ago

totally take them to court, all the proceeds from the sale of the cuttings should be turned over to you. You are NTA, they totally are.

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Enby.Minecraft.Bee. 2 years ago

I don't think the OP overreacted at all. Those are THEIR plants. They deserved what they got especially the SIL

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Ruben M 2 years ago

Oof. 14 years is totally old enough to know better, but also young enough to do really stupid stuff. I blame the mom. The mom is irredeemable, the 14 year old still has hope. It's not the OPs responsibility to nurture her anymore than she already has, but I hope there can be forgiveness offered if she comes with genuine remorse.

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Melba Lipscomb 2 years ago

I understand the anger, hurt and betrayal. I would not want to see them again much less speak to them again.

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Tommi Ann Raines 2 years ago

The worst part is that this woman was kind enough to let her niece have some clippings to begin with. She was probably delighted that the girl had shown interest in her plants and it's almost as though the niece deliberately took advantage of this woman's feelings about that

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Deberra Engelke 2 years ago

I have one word: lawsuit. I know I would. Oh and, the crime is called malicious destruction of property. No consequences means no lesson learned and future vicimization of others. Js...

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j. kiser 2 years ago

More like 3 words. Small Claims Court....not Lawsuit. These types of cases go to s.c.c not a trial lawsuit.

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RobbedofLife 2 years ago

Screw small claims I would have them arrested. Both of them. They were supposed to take care of the plants not sell cuttings of the entire plants online. They literally stole and vandelized personal property which last I checked was illegal.

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Linda Powder 2 years ago

Those 2 witches should pay back EVERY penny they sold those plants for, plus replace the plants. And I don't mean Years to do it either. Within a few weeks, or they go off to court. Sneaky wenches basically STOLE her property then profited from it. That isn't "family" particularly the "sister inlaw" who likely organized the entire theft. They knew what they were doing. Nope...after everything is dealt with, she should NEVER speak to those creeps again. If brother doesn't like that, to bad. She can add him to the s**t list as well. Hopefully he'll eventually see his wife for the evil creature she really is.

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j. kiser 2 years ago

Calm tf down! It's a 14yr old child. Saying a 14yr old kid doesn't deserve a second chance with family, ever, would make her a serious major pos!

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Lobo 2 years ago (edited)

Family means not holding grudges??? Fck that, and fck him. Family means NOT BETRAYING A FAMILY MEMBER'S TRUST FOR SELFISHNESS AND GREED!! It burns my ass whenever people blow off the actions of WILLFULLY MALICIOUS people as no big deal, while they demonize the victims of their sh*tty fn attitudes. Imo, she was absolutely right to say that as she could NEVER trust them again, and for him to try to brush it off I'd say he can do the same as the other two entitled pieces of sh*t.

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Cherries and Lace 2 years ago

Family means you don't hold grudges? Family means you don't screw each other over! They stole from her and DESTROYED her property which she treasured and he wants her to just drop it and pretend it's all okay? SCREW THAT!

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Jonathan West 2 years ago

Eesh. I feel terrible for OP, and I also feel terrible that, it would seem, Jenny has been poorly raised.

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Stepha Wilson 2 years ago

Ohohohoooo..... I'd f*****g LOSE IT if someone did this to my plants. What an incredibly effed up thing to do, especially to family. I'd cut them out just like they cut my plants and cut some of their money out of their bank accounts too. I can't believe how horrible these people are.

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Ravenkingofaplanet 2 years ago

I would kill if someone touched any of my plants, even the cheap ones.

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j. kiser 2 years ago

Kill someone...Sure, who wouldn't What? I mean, what rational, stable adult wouldn't be willing to leave their life behind to start a new life in a cage at a maximum security prison....because soneone "touched" (or even destroyed) their plants?? Yeah...I get it, that makes perfect sense....Uh huh! 🤨

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Susanne B 2 years ago

I feel that asking them never to enter your house again is perfectly justified, but you could be in the same room with them for family gatherings, if it was not in your house.

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marcie harris 2 years ago

Nope. These people are criminals. I would never want to be in a room with them again. Ever.

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It's Me 2 years ago

I gotta say the brother isn’t an a*****e. But that’s pretty much the end of that.

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Lobo 2 years ago

Yeah, he actually is. He's brushing it off and saying it's no big deal and trying to belittle the OPs feelings of betrayal. It WAS a big deal, it was malicious, selfish, and intentional, and if he doesn't tell them off and make them pay for the damages, he should wash his hands of the wife at least. She's not the type you can trust, and she'd do the same thing to him or anybody else in a heartbeat. Especially since she tried to talk back and bully the OP when she told them off.

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Cynthia Gurin 2 years ago

Premeditated theft and vandalism does not merit forgiveness, and “Mom already sold them” formally verifies the term “witting accomplice.” This was the equivalent of hiring people to care for a very valuable litter of champion puppies, (that you also absolutely adored) and returning home to find that most had been stolen and sold to God only knows who. I’d formally file a police report, refuse to drop charges, and then sue in civil court.

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Agatha Christie 2 years ago

Judy Justice pays up to $10k, the rest $5k. Good luck. At first I was like "Plants?!? 'I never want to see you again' for that?" But what if this was jewelry? Car collection? Or you had them house-sit and they did a yard sell? It was grimey. SIL is a crook. I didn't read anything about her apologizing or making overtures to fix your relationship. Now brother is in the middle. You made it clear where you stand. Keep the peace at family affairs like weddings, funerals, reunions. But don't feel like you have to be the bigger person. You already are.

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

Not to mention, those plants are actually incredibly valuable. Depending on the size of them, that collection would be worth as much as a car.

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suzanne hollrah 2 years ago (edited)

Beyond the Trauma of this... * 14 year old was a thief prior and the OP trusted her. * 14 year old expressed "interest" prior to and is completely culpable. * A 14 year old has developmental experience and knows right from wrong. * Major red flags here for narcissistic/pathological behavior on the part of both the SIL and 14 year old. * Private property has been severely damaged and stolen. The value of this loss is in the category of a felony. * The SIL is ultimately responsible for everything, yet both females committed a premeditated crime and planned this (way) ahead of time. * The emotional trauma and betrayal for the victim of the robbery is an additional layer of damages in this crime. * I truly sympathize w/ the OP. (Also, anyone who says/thinks that a 14 year old should not be blamed or be completely responsible needs to revisit the big picture. Again, this was calculated by the 14 yr old and is that of juvenile delinquent behaviors. It's highly likely that this is a pervasive pattern, and her mother is contributing to the delinquency of a minor, an additional crime.

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j. kiser 2 years ago (edited)

OR.....any person thinking a 14yr old should catch a felony charge that will follow & haunt them for life, over a situation like this, is a major POS!! The young kid should receive punishment & make restitution but suggesting a 14yr old kid should be labeled a felon for life & should still be paying for this when she's 50, 60 etc... is simply mf'n insane!! Felonies stick for life. Get a fkn grip on yourself!

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Caroline S 2 years ago

Take them to small claims court. Your brother is an ass for not offering to pay for the damages his crappy family did.

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Heather Barber 2 years ago

You asked them to take care of the plants while you were gone and they did quite the opposite. They knew what they did was wrong. It's right up there with them selling other items out of your home for money. The plants are your possessions, and you trusted them to look after them while you were away. They need to pay for what they did since it was obviously intentional.

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Ren Ka 2 years ago

Dear OP, Did you do a throughough search of your valuables? If I were you, I would. I know you would have been in a great amount of shock when you saw your plants, you may have not noticed if anything else was 'not quite right'. However, if they lack the scruples to not do what they did to your beloved plants for their profit, I'm guessing that anything else would have been on the table. Take a proper assessment of your property, and don't allow them access to your property ever again.

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Denise Neil 2 years ago

Many on here are putting culpability of the same upon both the niece and SIL and some even more on the niece. It surprises me that not more brutal thinking is not put into some answers. Yes, the niece took clippings before. Was she confronted then? No? Then you gave her the EXACT message that child’s mother has given her for her entire life. One of confining bad acts. How can a child raised by a SIL, with the morales of a tick, be viewed as “knowing better”??? Children learn what they live. YES!! Hold her to account by all means but show her why and where that was wrong because I can almost guarantee she has not been shown that by her mother. Do your utmost to keep that line of communication open because the niece is not mature, as evidenced by her behaviour. The OP may be the only moral fibre that this young person gets in their life. Limit the trust you now give the niece but try not to cut her from your life. Contrary to some, a 14 yr is not fully mature.

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

Unless the child is living locked up in the basement with zero contact with the outside world besides her mother, then she 100% knew what she was doing was wrong. Friends, classmates, teachers, books, tv shows, movies - she's not living in isolation, she's a part of society, and society would be enough to teach her that destroying thousands of dollars worth of someone elses belongings in order to make money is WRONG. All her mother has taught her is that she shouldn't care if she does something wrong, because she won't be punished.

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James Williams 2 years ago

If SIL and niece really had no nefarious intentions they would've done it in a way where it wasn't even noticeable maybe 1 cutting per plant just cause u really like it, but to strip some bare is just a flat out heist! The nerve of these 2! U can't have people like that around.

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Maggie Hood 2 years ago (edited)

Honestly when i read the title, I thought OP was overreacting, but then I read the whole thing and what they did to her was really messed up. They destroyed her trust, her plants that she really cared about, and basically stole hundreds of dollars from her. I'm not a plant person, but if someone were to steal something that I cared about I would never want to see them again either. I totally understand and they should pay her back every penny they took, it won't bring back the plants, but it's something. Just imagine someone stealing your pets and selling them. I would be murderous.

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RedOphelia 13 2 years ago

This is part of the reason why I'm estranged from my own family because there are definitely members who would have done something like this and then pulled the "But we're family, you can't hold a grudge with family" Watch me. We need to move away from this familial obligation of just tolerating people and their crap behavior just because they happen to be related. And there's no shame in cutting people out of your life when they don't respect you, your feelings or your home. The 14, who should KNOW the difference between right and wrong, had stolen cutting from OPS plants before and bragged about it on social media. This brat and her equally bratty mother thought that they were entitled to take advantage of OP and steal from them. They were both very interested in the value of the plants so gaining access to the plants and their cuttings was their plan all along. Take them to court.

1point

RedOphelia 13 2 years ago

And a stipulation should be added that Jenny and her mother have to kill any plant in their house that was grown from the stolen cuttings and Jenny should have to delete all the Instagram posts she's made where she presents the plants/cuttings as her own and should she have to make an apology post detailing her and her mother's thievery. The husband is an absolute fool for 1. Not seeing what his wife and daughter were really up to. 2. Trying to defend them after they had damaged and most likely killed a lot of OPS plants for their own greed and following up with the very tired excuse of "family means no grudges." He can preach "THOU SHALT NOT STEAL!" to his lawfully wedded idiot and their equally idiotic hellspawn until he's blue in the face.

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Shea Keenan 2 years ago

Apparently the SIL and niece are a pair of conniving thieves. I think she should take them to small claims court. If that kid learned how to lie, steal, and cheat from her mom, let her aunt teach her how to pay for her actions.

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Dancy Chandler 2 years ago

They are thieves, unpure and simple. To the possible clueless brother, your wife and child STOLE from family, so don't even try with the 'let's all get along, we're family!' The daughter is a little nasty chip off her mother. Lose all contact with them. I find it irredeemable too. They didn't care about living things that OP sweated blood and tears for. If she had animals that were expensive, they would have ripped the babies away from the mother to sell them. I would have straightout punched the mother as she stood and said "what's done is done." Or had her arrested.

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NOMAD Anshelm 2 years ago (edited)

All the right to be furious. But saying a 14 year old deserves to die & burn in hell over this is way over the top imo. Honestly, I'm not at all sure "they" were aware. 14 year olds are not very bright. They think they are but they're impulsive, arrogant & make dumb decisions. I don't think Jenny REALLY knew what she had done or she wouldn't just willingly and without a care in the world just walk back into the house to return the key. I have no idea & Im just speculating but this smells like Niece told SIL that she was getting clippings & that they were valuable, SIL got greedy & asked how much they could take. SIL was the one to sell them online & made sure to do it before OP got home. Her "what's done is done" attitude while Niece was hysterically crying. Niece actually LIKING plants. At the very least I dont think Niece realized she destroyed the plants. Looks alot like Adult>Teen manipulation to me. Jenny is a kid, a stupid kid who did something very wrong, doesn't mean she's inherently evil. SIL is a different story, she's an adult, she shouldve known better. Take her to court.

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Aimee Harvey 2 years ago

Thank you! This was basically my comment, & I'm glad to FINALLY see someone agrees with me!! Absolutely the child (& at 14, she is still a CHILD) was dumb for doing what she did, but she made a huge mistake, likely egged on by the Mother who is, after all, the one who sold them! And ffs, you DON'T wish burning in HELL on a CHILD, especially your own niece!! If anything, OP should realize that the 14 yr old's Mother is a s**t parent & be a ROLE MODEL for her niece! No child is "irredeemable"; She was irresponsible, which is a major trait in teens!! I agree she should be mad, but not close the lines of communication w/her niece forever; All that will do is teach the niece to isolate herself from adults & then she really WILL turn out to be irredeemable! So sad.. I feel for OP, but I feel more for the child being spoken to that way by her own Aunt!

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Blondieybat 2 years ago

They knew exactly what they were doing. They stole your property and sold stolen property. Never mind how you felt about a single leaf on a single plant. And obviously the shape those poor plants were in after that was horrific. They promised to take care of them and practically killed them!?! They need to pay for their mistake. That is theft and destruction of private property. Best of luck to you. I hope you and your plants recover.

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Red 2 years ago

This is horrid. 1, its stealing. 2, for some people, plants are their closest family. They're more like pets than decoration. Imagine asking your family to pet sit, and coming back to find they'd harvested your dog's kidney. And, while I'm unsure of some of the plants she mentioned, I have some good experience with orchids. They're VERY particular. Almost to the point that if you look at then wrong, they'll die. If you reduced a full and beautiful orchid to 2 leaves in the span of a week, itd definitely die. I have no problems believing they killed some of the plants through their greed.

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RADUGA.babochka 2 years ago

NTA: That's disgusting that they did that, people make hundreds even thousands of dollars of plants especially the Princess and Albo. The fact that they most definitely damaged a lot of them by not cutting them right. (I don't know how to cut plants yet so I stay away from it knowing full well I couldn't hurt it ) They aren't "just" plants, they're something you put a lot of work and money into. It's damaging that they did that, I'd take them to small claims court like that one person suggested.

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Kimberly Poole 2 years ago

I'm in agreement with taking the sil & niece to small claims court. You might not get a lot of money but it would cause a hassle for the sil & niece. The attack on your houseplants was planned & carried out purely for profit. I am a plant lover & I feel your pain. The hours & care we give our plants is not done in vain. We are excited to see the new little leaf coming out on a plant that we have been patiently caring for, it's like the first tooth of our children. It's exciting to us & we love to see our plants flourish. As far as not ever wanting to see them again, I'm torn on this. Your niece is only 14 & you would miss out on her life. The sil, who is the adult, should have known better than to do what they did. She is the one I would blame over both of them. She is the adult & knows right from wrong, or she should know. But life is short & people change over the years. Maybe in a few years forgiveness will be found.

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Nina Stinstrom 2 years ago

Not only did these plants cost a pretty penny when she bought them, she nurtured and nourished them for quite a long time. And something I haven't read yet is these were living things she took care of every day. Comparing them to jewelry or even art doesn't work for me. When was the last time you hired someone to babysit your jewelry when you had to take an extended business trip? They were living breathing beings, and it seems like she treated them more like pets. Here's a thought: You go out of town and leave your pregnant Champion in the care of someone you love and trust - since you've been training them for awhile - and when you come back you find that not only has your precious pup given birth, your loved one has taken the babies and sold them off to the highest bidder. That scenario sounds much closer to an appropriate analogy, and I think her brother would have understood it better as well.

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Chamber Laine 2 years ago

They had it all planned out. They straight up conned you into a false sense of security by gaining your trust with the whole common interest vibe & the moment you're gone They move in,destroy your most precious possessions, then proceeded to profit from that destruction leaving you with twigs & a few leaves. They knew when they'd reached the point of no return & they knew you'd be pissed. They knew at that point that that was gonna be their one & only shot so they took everything they could get. They knew. They just didn't care. They got paid & that was all that mattered. Fk 'em. NTA.

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Dawn Kelly 2 years ago

Take them to court. Demand they give you every penny they made. You can see on their FB Marketplace what they sold usually. Also demand they pay you what it will cost to replace every plant they destroyed. They won't be laughing when you win and they owe you thousands of dollars. I would cut them out like a cancer too. They don't care!

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Craig Christilaw 2 years ago

That is just nasty there's not even words for it

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Craig Christilaw 2 years ago

I would be very upset I would not allow them over I would not allow the brother over evidently he don't understand so he don't need to come over. But I do think I would take them to small claims court too and I would sue them for what they done and if it involved my brother being sued I would sue him too for emotional distress in the cost of the plants and the price of the cuttings they sold

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Wren Hard 2 years ago

wow, i would have literally killed them right then

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j. kiser 2 years ago

Ok....either you're not sure on the definition of the word "literally" Or....you'd literally have no problem murdering a kid & her mother, leaving your life behind to sit in a prison cell for decades all because they destroyed some plants of yours.....Either one would suggest you're def not the brightest bulb in the box.

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Sue Thaxter 2 years ago

They are Thieves. Make them replace all the plants. Take them to court if you have too. They are not acting like a family

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Sue Thaxter 2 years ago

They are thieves. My plants mean more to me than jewelry and they knew how she felt. That is not how real family treats each other. Make them buy replacements.

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Stannous Flouride 2 years ago

"Family means not holding grudges" is a load of (insert disgusting mass of your choice here)

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Gabrielle B. Marcelo 2 years ago (edited)

tricia sloan op said a few clippings not most of her fucken houseplants

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Jacqueline Smith 2 years ago

The original poster needs to take photos and find any and all receipts when she purchased these plants. Potting soil, plant food. Make a detailed list and start emailing and calling one of the judges in your area. File a lawsuit and at least have "your day in court". So sad this happened to you.

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

Wouldn't even bother with that. Just produce a pic showing how big they were beforehand, and evidence of what those plants at that size currently sell for.

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Cliff Ruiz 2 years ago (edited)

Yea...F*** both of them..... blood is not thicker than water, it just has an easier time backstabbing you. Take them to small claims or higher. You could sue for emotional damage as well (I mean this in all seriousness, as this has you quite emotional), and understandably so.

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Dillon Sizemore 2 years ago

I hate that saying people butcher it the saying is 'blood shed for a brother in battle is thicker than the water of the womb' it literally means treat the people that treat you well like family not your actual family if they treat you like crap

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david russell 2 years ago

I don't know boo about plants but anything you value ,spend major amount of time on, and everyone close to you knows how you feel about your interest has no business touching,selling,doing anything with your property has to be held accountable. And like the saying goes "you can pick your friends,but not your family" . If it was me I'd have pressed charges for theft,destruction of private property ,fraud,and anything else possible. Then sue their pants off! Then I would make them know they're not ever welcome in my home,anywhere around my immediate family,never around me again. I would have no mercy on either of them. I no physical violence is wrong ,BUT I would be immensely tempted to beat the HE%# out of them. I know lots of people would think,oh it's family,or forgive them,they're sorry ,they didn't mean it ,ETC. but thats a load of B.S.This world isn't like that anymore,everyone needs to be held accountable for their actions PERIOD !! I agree with her 100% and more!

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Tom Harper 2 years ago

As an avid gardener, this was painful to read. I absolutely lost me collective s**t when MiL's partner decided what was mine was his, and took some of my seed grown vegetables - not the edible part mind, ripped the whole damn plant. I'm on the emotional level of Col. Kurtz on this one; "The horror, the horror..."

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H.L.Lewis 2 years ago

Oh this is terrible. I do hope you take them to small claims court. Years ago I had just standard, not expensive house plants. They looked great. Then I got a roommate. Big mistake. She was only there for a month, but it turned out that she would watch me water, then wait until I went to work and would water them again.. Unfortunately I think she may have watered them every day. She killed every one of them. I can Not imagine how devastated you feel OP over your previous plants. So sorry for your loss.

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Tacos Are Tasty 2 years ago

100% NTA. Niece and SIL need to be taken to small claims court, at the very least. They knew exactly what they were doing and deserve no leniency for being family. They knew how much care OP took with these plants in addition to their value. S**t family, in my opinion. They deserve whatever punishment they get.

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marcie harris 2 years ago

These relatives, you trusted committed at least a misdemeanor. Call the police asap and report what they did. Determine the damages and the cost using a professional. They did this on purpose. I believe the mother put her daughter up to it. If you do nothing, these two will hurt someone else. THEY NEED CONSEQUENCES for their actions. No you did not overreact. You just trusted people that should have been trustworthy. I'm so so sorry for your pain. HOW DARE THEY???

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Robin DJW 2 years ago

This was horrible. I have no skill at all with plants, but I wish I did, and my heart bleeds for OP.

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Pumpkin Spice 2 years ago

NTA, AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH. THEY DESTROYED YOUR PLANTS. YOUR BABIES. THOSE ARE YOUR CHILDREN BASICALLY. THEY CUT YOUR DAUGHTER'S FINGERS AND TOES OFF.

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j. kiser 2 years ago

Ok....You're an idiot! Plants & human beings....not the same in any way. It's not all like they severed fingers & toes of a child. Get a grip!!!

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Ann Mohrmann 2 years ago

I love that the SIL said 'they're just plants' as if to imply that they weren't important - but of course SIL doesn't believe that, because she made a ton of MONEY off selling them!!! The audacity of this b*itch.

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blatherskitenoir 2 years ago

She should look up their marketplace postings, make copies, and show them to her brother and family, to show that the plants were valuable and that she's not crazy, this was all planned.

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blatherskitenoir 2 years ago (edited)

She will probably need to monetize and contextualize the damage for her brother to understand. If she's screaming they're going to hell for cutting her house plants, he isn't going to get it and will think she's the ridiculous one. If she instead says "it took me x YEARS to grow this extremely rare plant, each cutting costs $50-100, full plants $1000, and they've cut so much off, it's now going to die. They essentially broke into my house, burgled my belongings, leaving them in shambles, and sold everything for thousands, when I trusted them to watch my home for me" then he might get why she feels violated, betrayed, and is making a huge deal about this.

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JaniG 2 years ago (edited)

I understand she's upset and doesn't want them in the house, they robbed her and destroyed the results of her work. But yelling at a 14-year-old that she's horrible, awful, irredeemable and should burn in hell is waaaay over the line. She's just a kid. She may have made a mistake, but she certainly should have been given a chance to apologize. Although I would never touch op´s plants, I wouldn't want to be friends with her either.

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John Wilson 2 years ago

No doubt that what they did was way, way out of any proportion with the OP's statement that Jenny could have a few cuttings. I wonder what the interplay between Mother and daughter was here. Was Jenny already planning this herself, or was she immature enough to be manipulated by her Mother, who'd spotted a chance to make money? The truth is probably somewhere between the two...

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Nightshade1972 2 years ago

I was in my early teens when CDs were starting to replace vinyl records. I made the mistake of telling my emotionally abusive mother that, *someday,* I wanted to replace all my vinyl with CDs (I didn't even have a CD player yet!). When I'm away at college, she sells my entire LP collection, worth about $400 USD at the time, to one guy for $40. The icing on the cake was when she initially refused to give me the $40, "because *I* sold them, not you!" Both my father and I had to explain to her that you don't just get to sell *my* stuff out from under me, without me knowing about it, and not expect any repercussions. Very grudgingly, she gave me the $40. At least the upside was that I could smile brightly at her and say, "Great! Now that you've basically stolen all my LPs, this means I can have a CD player now, right? Right?!" and yes, that is what happened.

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Craig Reynolds 2 years ago

I would add up what each of those plants would cost to buy in the condition they were in before being destroyed, then find out what the small claims court limit is. Here in FL, it's $8k not including court costs and any lawyer fees if you use one. Then tell your brother you demand they pay you that money within 2 weeks. If he refuses tell him you are taking them to small claims court if they don't pay. If he still refuses then gather all evidence, go to your local police station and file a police report for theft. Depending on the $$$ amount they will be charged with either misdemeanor grand theft or felony grand theft. Forget they are family as family is NOT entitled to special treatment. Treat them like any ordinary criminal. They need to learn that actions have consequences.

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

I'm a gardener, some of the plants she mentioned? Yeah, a single cutting - and by cutting I mean about two inches of stem and a single leaf, not even with roots yet - can sell for $100 to $150, easy. The damage they did, from the sounds of it, would've cost as much as a used car. And even if they weren't valuable, they wantonly destroyed something that someone spent years developing and was their passion and pride and joy, all to make a bit of money. Officially scum.

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KT 2 years ago

NTA and take her to small claims. They made thousands off your plants knowing full well they were destroying them in the process.

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MJ 2 years ago

Yes, they need to have consequences! They need to pay you back for every single plant they took & sold. Horrible what they did! What they did was a huge breach of trust! Unbelievable and even worse, is that the daughter is learning from her Mom that it was all okay to do this. When they make this right, allow them to also earn the right back into you're life again. Don't kick them out forever. Family is family. It seems your niece desperately needs some female guidance from someone with ethics and morals. Teach her choices have consequences (she will have to pay you back the money and maybe do certain chores for you as well all going towards earning back your trust). At the same time also show/teach her (and SIL) what compassion and forgiveness is all about. She'll become a better person that way. You could be the best, positive influence in her life. You have every right to your anger and hurt, but maybe not the best thing to tell them to rot in hell. Very harsh.

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Canderous Urrtha 2 years ago

So theft destruction of private property and the sale of stolen goods..op needs to press charges

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Ar 2 years ago

They didn't just steal from her, they violated her, her trust, and her home. I agree with the statement to rot in hell and I'm not a plant person at all. It's not just plants it's the emotional damage they've caused. I would sue or call police for theft.

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Arimentha Maria Hill-Whiley 2 years ago

Sue them & make them give you the money they earned plus for pain & suffering...& air them out on social media when you win.

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Mary Swisher 2 years ago

Small claims court is the way to go! But she did go too far in not wanting to see them ever again! yes they are her plants and they are family! What she should do is never to let them near her plants ever again and definitely don't trust them to her, but as far as family events go; it's time for a little forgiveness! family is family and they are only plants, no matter how much they cost!

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

You can't forgive someone who isn't apologetic. And end of the day, they are worth thousands of dollars. And they are something the OP has spent years caring for and investing in. Imagine someone spend years restoring a car that was now worth several thousand as a result, and someone trashed it to make money, and didn't even remotely care about what they did. Why, exactly, would you say "Okay, I forgive you"

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Joanna Jester 2 years ago

I understand how frustrated you are, especially since Mom isn't BEGGING your forgiveness. I also see where your brother is coming from. This will cause continuing division in the family. You don't have to have them in your home. But what about other family gatherings? Don't know if your family is close but Christmas? Other birthdays, graduations or weddings? Your brother will have to be without your company? You said your niece was apologetic and tearful- she knew she was doing wrong but was influenced by her mother at the time. Your brother needs to let her know this was absolutely unacceptable behavior. I think she (and Mom) should pay you back any money they possibly can, and niece should have to work for you for free- to help you try to restore the plants she destroyed and see what damage she has done. A lot being said about how valuable these plants are and how that makes a difference. To me, too much. The main issue is your niece STOLE from you and how to make amends.

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Ginger Morgan 2 years ago

I have plants that were my mother's, started in the 1970's. If somebody took whacks at them, without my permission and/or assistance, my foot would be up their butts as they were going out the door. SIL and niece owe her all the money they stole from "marketplace" buyers. If they don't cough up all the money, small claims court. A baby version of one of my mother's plants costs from $25 to $150. I have four pots of the plant; the original, weighing 60# dry, it's offspring, weighing 50# dry and two gallon size containers with several grand and great-grand babies. I have given dozens to friends and the local garden club for fundraisers, as Mom would have done in her day. When those plants bloom, it's an "event" which starts the cycle over. From bloom to plant to bloom again, a minimum of ten years passes. Having tried to grow succulents such as the OP, I know they are a lifetime commitment. My clivia are Usain Bolt in comparison.

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j. kiser 2 years ago

You know, there's a difference between giving your opinion & giving advice. Of course we all have opinions but too often people think it's ok to give strangers advice, telling them what they should do about a situation, one their in no way involved in & only have information from one side. Just comes across shitty.

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TG Davis 2 years ago (edited)

1. Establish text convo discussing this. Choose day that the three are away from each other if u can. Set up 3 convos, 1 each with bro, SIL & niece. They might tell niece not to discuss it with her if they know. Act Like she's calmed down just a discussion. Obtain text confessions: money earned, where advertised (gee, maybe I should go into selling plants... How? How much? Where? 2. Track down the ads, screenshot. Maybe the page admin can help. 3. Lots of pics & documentation. Pics from as soon as she got home & before pics. Screenshot the posts where the niece showed previous stolen plants. Plans for them caring for her plants by text, save those, too. 4. Calculate how many hours of work & care that went into the plants. Add, cost of new plants, $ earned from clippings & how many hrs worked caring for the plants. As if she had a side job, her investment & income. 5. Present to bro. He pay only for plants & give money they made, or they go to court.

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Mary Bricklin 2 years ago (edited)

I had to look some of those plants up just so I could understand how bad this situation was. The cheapest cost for a pink princess philodendrons that I saw was $169. For an albo monteras, (sp?) one price I saw was $6,000. And that's for two plants. Those two definitely knew what they were doing. If that was jewelry or artwork or anything other than plants, there would be no discussion. They'd be in small-claims court. The fact that it was plants should not change that at all. Let them suffer the consequences for their actions.

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Casha scy 2 years ago (edited)

NTA I'm not into plants, but that is because I have no luck with indoor plants. Knowing how hard they are to grow I realize how much work and years you put into them. Your SIL had no right what so ever taking anything from your plants I don't care if it was a leaf. As for your niece I see it two ways 1. She knews you said you would pay her and give her cuttings which meant after you got back. 2. On the other side if her mom told her it was ok at 14 she is still gonna listen to her mom and she may not have known her mom was going to sell them.

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Tanisha Montgomery 2 years ago

Alot of people don't understand no matter if it's a inanimate object or living thing anything you put work into is going to have a special place in your heart so to have somebody who knew how much it meant to you destroy it and make a profit off of it will send anybody over the top and the fact that you were willing to curse out a 14-year-old girl shows how much you really loved those plants and cared for them her mother plotted this from the beginning and she just went along with it you honestly should have been screaming at the top of your lungs at the mother cuz the little girl was just a minion after all. And I definitely agree with taking them to court those plants are extremely expensive and it's right up there was stealing fine art

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Eileen Shea 2 years ago

I'm so sorry this happened to you. It's out of this world that your niece contrived this theft. Please don't let this slip and make them replace every last plant even they have to buy from over the world. Until they make total amends, hold your ground keep them out of your sphere. I sincerely hopyou have documentation of your plants. How can they yearsyou spent growing and tending them be replaced. The money you should get needs to compensate for your time and expertise. Best of luck. Eileen

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Bill Kotsias 2 years ago (edited)

It seems like whenever anyone posts to this Reddit, people need to immediately defend him and call him NTA. Ofc this wasn't precalculated, since if they knew it was theft, they would also know they would be caught when poster returned. The poster had to be more precise, it's not just the fault of her relatives. Also, if they were so awful people, how did she not realize it like 15 years ago? I'm sorry but I don't agree with this mindset.

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

Uh...they knew it was theft. They just didn't care, because as they themselves said "it's just plants". They didn't care.

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Karen Greer Carriker 2 years ago

I agree. A police report should be filed for property damage and also sue them in court. Family is family but apparently these two were the ones overstepping boundaries. I'm especially suspicious of the motives of the niece taking an interest in the plants and sneaking cuttings along the way. Sorry to say it but this sounds like "druggie behavior". No conscience whatsoever. No respect and theft of personal property are NOT family-friendly behaviors. In fact, they've created a NO TRUST atmosphere and I would never allow them in my home again. It's a bad feeling to not be able to turn your back on family. It's even worse when you do and they steal from you.

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Krysta Pandoo 2 years ago (edited)

I'm angry on behalf of this person, I'm actually shaking . This was all about money Those disgusting people deserved every word. Should sue for destruction of property and theft. String the ahs up.

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Drew Hernandez 2 years ago

Never trust that kind of value with anyone. Especially don't do business with Family. She obviously needed money so she was never an ethical candidate.

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Drew Hernandez 2 years ago

Never do business with family.

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Nina Pispala 2 years ago

Theft and property damage. Also it's not just about "some plants" or theft(!) but the betrayal of trust. Stuff like this make people feel like they're gutted, it hurts just so much. What they did was planned and sneaky. They wholly took advantage of her. Also it's pretty horrible the niece is being brought up to have a criminal mindset :O They should return the profits they made and pay for the damages - the value of the plants intact. This wasn't some family "squabble". Maybe the brother would understand a comparison to a car. Think if someone had a years long pet project with building a car from scratch - with some really expensive and rare parts. Then while away a family member came and ripped the car apart and sold all the pieces. And also damaged what was left behind possibly beyond repair. Yeah, "it's just a car". A car a relative sold for spare parts without consent. Not wanting to be around them is necessary protection against getting manipulated again.

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Janet Ross 2 years ago

Ban SIL & Niece From Home For Life I agree take them to small claims court! I don't think they will learn anything though because people who can be insensitive as to strip & leave her plants in such an opposite condition than she so lovingly left them, simply didn't care about her feelings about her plants. Going on the 2 females absolutely showed they didn't give a (fill in the blank with your choice) what she felt or thought about the finished deed or them. I mean, they are family & she said they could & what is she going to do after the facts. Really folks, going by how her brother acted the SIL& Niece were probably right about the family; I mean her brother could have showed some empathy if not sympathy about the desimation of his sister's years & money plus time spent on those plants over all the years. Perhaps, someone will show him how valuable they were before the desimation of the SIL & Niece. The brother isn't worth much if he doesn't say some strong words to the SIL & Nie

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Kanga9ine 2 years ago

It is the worst form of betrayal and violation of trust when a family member disrespects that which they have no right to think they know what’s best for you and doesn’t ever bother to apologize, see that they not only violated what you find such achievement and pride in nurturing. Whether it’s a plant, an animal or you own spirit, there is no x use anyone should ever do anything because they don’t see what or who you are about. I went through this when my dad was dying and I not only had to discover his making drastic changes to my equipment and office stuff that i had to store with him after be burglarized by those who decided to help themselves to my equipment in my business. Then my brother came to help sort out the mess of my dads rescue missions from trash cans and then house. I am never going to allow anyone to choose to decide what I need to feel complete ever again.

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Melissa Hamner 2 years ago

I dunno what family he’s from. Mine is from the South, and we have fights that last for CENTURIES. OP has excellent grounds for disowning the lot.

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

I agree this was planned and thought out . All of us have something that we love and are super passionate about . You have put time , love and a lot of money into these plants . People do not seem to care about anything or anyone anymore it’s so sad it’s such a selfish world . but when it’s family that’s a whole other level of betrayal. Family ain’t supposed to do that to you . Family is the one people we know that have our back when no one else does! We love we trust and yes we argue at times but it’s usually over silly things that can be resolved. But blatantly stealing and ruining her plants that’s just nasty , mean , selfish and cruel. If you look up the definition of the word “cruel” it says “willfully causing pain or suffering to others , and feeling no concern about it .” Causing pain !! It will never be resolved until the sil and niece make it right I’m sure the brother is torn between his wife daughter and sister . OP I’m so sorry 4 u hun you may never regain trust in them

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Benito 2 years ago

this is the reason the united states is under judgment…because the love of one’s self has overtaken the love for our neighbor… terrible and embarrassing

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

I can assure you, people being selfish isn't the reason everyone judges the US. Not the only reason. Rest of the world has been doing that for a veeeeeeeeeeeeeery long time, and for quite a long list of reasons.

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j. kiser 2 years ago

Uhhh say what?? Lolol!!! That's just an absurd comment. This type of thing happens in families all over the world. Ugly awful s**t happens world wide & the US isn't "under judgment" for things like this because the average person knows, people have been screwing one another over since the beginning & the US is no different or better. Self serving assholes exist the world over.

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

Amen Benito , amen !!!

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Tijuri 2 years ago

Nope, she had every right to be livid. I can actually relate, those plant were time consuming & probably were her stress relief & ppl she trusted did this. Thts like asking someone to pet sit, u come home & ur fur bby is "missing" (sold). They better be glad thts all she said/did to them.

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Fernando Garcia 2 years ago

Wow, it amazes me how so many people immediately recognize this as wrong yet the mother and daughter duo had no regrets or shame at any point before the owner found out for herself.

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

Right !!!! What are you teaching your child that at 14 she’s ok with stealing and destroying her aunt’s property ! She knew how much it meant to her you were babysitting them for the love of god . Most people don’t do that (babysitter for plants) . Such a selfish world anymore, just sad .

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Nombuso Ntuli 2 years ago

As a plant lover and someone who got through depression because of plants I would have been so mad! I'm angry reading this! Plants are expensive and to think they made money on her is insulting! They should atleast pay her what they sold even if it's not going to bring them back and probably cheaper than what they cost!

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Lululoohoo 2 years ago

I'd be worried about rant 14yo's sense of entitlement especially with a mom like that. Yikes

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

Exactly!! Children learn what they live !! Such a selfish generation!

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CL Rowan 2 years ago (edited)

NTA! NTA! NTA!!! File a police report. You were robbed and these two (three, since Dad KNEW you wouldn't allow the bush~hogging of your prize plants). They all require consequences past thinking that you'll get over it in time and that you won't have them arrested, they're 'family'. They're fu**ing THIEVES who thought nothing of ruining your work for their profit. Make it *hurt*, or they will not learn!

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Bljurg 2 years ago

You definitely have the right to be upset, you are absolutely not overreacting! "Just plants" is them trying to diminish the fact that they destroyed months or years of effort and thousands of Dollars worth of property, while profiting from it. They are not family, they're common thieves! I would definitely involve the Police and go to a small claims court. You deserve to at least get the money those plants are worth, and they deserve to have a Police record as the crooks they are.

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Candy Berg 2 years ago

Ohhhhhh my, my blood pressure is rising simply by reading this. This was a carefully planned assault. Make no mistake, this duo knew exactly what they were doing. The niece followed mom right down that gold lined brick road thinking ohhhh auntie will get over it. People have this belief that we must forgive family. However since nowhere have I heard true remorse from the duo nor plans to make reparations, what is there to prevent this behavior in the future? Will they wait until OP has a better more expensive selection to steal from her? Yes I understand forgiveness, but this was a cruel and I don’t see any remorse from them. Nor do I see the mother saying here, here’s the money I made from your property.

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Tanya Stevens 2 years ago

They know what they were doing. Took advantage of you for greed. I would have snapped too and cut them off. Some people think they can just do whatever because time heals all so they think. The fact that the mother is teaching her daughter deceitful ways is the worst part.

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Kristina H.N. 2 years ago

SIL literally wanted to brush it away because she knew she destroyed and sold someone's property 😕 and then her hubby has the guts to say family holds no grudges. I don't see them running to buy her new plants they destroyed. Horrible. They wouldn't be welcome in my house either.

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

Yea wait till something happens to something he loves then talk about no grudges! The brother shouldn’t be apologizing for his wife she is a grown ass woman she needs to step up grow up make it right and teach her daughter not to steal from people especially your family!!!

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Jasmine Walter 2 years ago

I would be just as upset. I would of beat both their asses!!! I have a total of 20 plants and I love them all. My husbands mother asked to buy one of my plants I said "absolutely not!" If you don't have a passion for plants you wouldn't understand.

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

Go on and preach that gurl !!

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Christian Jordan 2 years ago

I totally understand her anger and feelings of betrayal over her beloved and expensive plants. If I were in her shoes, I would have gotten upset too. HOWEVER, I don’t know if I would have banished them from my life. I would have demanded the money that was made from the sale of the plant clippings. If they refused, I would have taken them to court. As for my relationship with them, it would be a long while before I could even talk, let alone be in the same room with them. I believe in forgiveness, BUT that does not mean I would FORGET. They would also NEVER be allowed in my home again.

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Jessica Macklemoore 2 years ago

I hope the OP shows every comment 2 her bro & posts them to social media where her spoiled niece & SIL can see so they realize what a HORRIBLE thing it is theyve done! Then I hope she takes their asses to court! This child is gonna keep doin crap like this if shes not taught that actions have consequenses! If Id done something like this 2 my aunt (not that Id EVER dream of it) my mom wouldve been incredibly dissapointed & wouldve wondered who stole her kid & replaced her with a greedy, selfish pod person. She never wouldve been ok with let alone participated in, this kind of behavior. shes a good mom who teaches good values. You do NOT touch other people's things that theyve worked on! You CERTAINLY do not SELL things unless explicitly told which, how much, what types etc. Its only a misunderstanding if the girl knew nothin about plants. This is just like my ex roomies who gave me PTSD & it all started w/this level of disrespect that escalated 2 threats of violence

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Marie Bourn 2 years ago

The plants where bought with her money. They were her property, right out. She took the time to care for them so that is her labor. The niece was invited into her home, the niece did not pay or do any long term care for the plants. The SIL failed as a parent, a guardian, an adult, a once trusted family member. I would of demanded all the payments they had received plus interest. The owner knows the value of her plants and she has every right to that profit. We are allowed to get anger, but it's to what extent. It is a healthy emotion &she said her peace without violence. She will never be able to trust them again so I do not blame her for banning them from her home. Time does heal all wounds but we never forget. Maybe one day she maybe able to forgive them but for the time being she has the right to be pissed. And the right to the profits they made. I love plants myself and I bring home all the plants my mom neglects cause she has a black thumb and bring them back to life

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Danni Elliott 2 years ago

Definitely take them to court and be sure to have any before and after photos as well as documentation proving the value of each (and the approximate numbers of cuttings). Have your plant vendors verify that the numbers are correct and also take information regarding their educational backgrounds. This ordeal must have been a shocker. As well as the loss of the beloved plants, one would also feel stripped to the bone, having had this done by relatives. So sad and disheartening. I am so sorry.

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Katrina Koelbel 2 years ago

Apart from their moneyary value, to a person who raises a cutting (like OP) to a successful full plant, there's an emotional investment to the plant that has no price tag. Some become heirlooms that have generations of devotion lavished on them simply because theyre loved. PS theft is theft... Charge 'em!

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Mari Janne 2 years ago

When I started dating this guy and he broke off one of my rare orchid's blooms... I LOST MY BISCUIT's.. I'd ended up in jail if I was her... I am so sorry for the bad hair cuts your beauty's got..But I know your Green💚 thumb energy will have them back in no time... Let Go Let Gaia

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Geraldine Petrou 2 years ago

They had no right to take cuttingsfrom your plants and sell them. Take them to court. I would no longer speak to them.

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Ruby Price 2 years ago

To anyone saying' "It's just plants" I implore you to look up Cleve Backster and his fascinating experiments hooking plants up to a polygraph lie detector machine. It's really cool. I live in AZ and have a lot of aloe vera in my yard. I'm really into DIY & homemade beauty stuff which aloe is fantastic for. I HATE cutting it! I apologize, I thank it, tell it why I need it and how it'll help me & I do it outloud. (Neighbors prob think I'm insane as I'm almost in tears trying to take a cutting of my aloe) I only cut the tiniest bit off of spots where someone else already cut. It breaks my heart every time though!

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Nomad Industries 2 years ago

I agree. They had no right to ruin the plants and she has every right to be furious. It was obviously planned. To sell them was really wrong. At the very least, they need to reimburse her for the money they got for the cuttings.

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Shehzadi Amal 2 years ago

This made my heart drop into my gut. This is horrendous.

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D. Dos Santos 2 years ago

I would have done the same as you did. Family or not they knew they were not supposed to give your plants a hair cut. Your sister in law should have known better too. I am also a plant lover so I can feel the sadness. It is also a serious betrayal of trust. I side with you! Sorry about your plants too

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Chris Cox 2 years ago

I completely and wholeheartedly agree with OP, this is BS! It's ridiculous. SMFH There absolutely is no excuse for this criminal action whatsoever! I'm furious just reading this.. I'm right there with OP, shaking my head, ya know what? The brother in-law is right, they are family, and they should know better, you don't steal from your own family, how low is that? This was a low, low, low, dirty thing to do. I'm so frustrated and hurt for the OP, I'm at a loss for any further words.. SMH

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Leslie Bryant 2 years ago

I get it. Those plants have value, big value, that the younger thief knew about and was calculating how much she was going to get while feigning interest in the beloved plants. But even more so the plants were valued as treasured possessions to the woman who owns them. She put trust in 2 (3 with her brother) family members who betrayed her. Legally she can take them to court for larceny, she may be able to get a monetary amount to compensate and possibly replace, but her peace of mind and faith and trust in people...you can't put a money value on that. I don't blame her at all for never wanting to see them again... anywhere. I would totally wash them out of my life once the plant situation is resolved.

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lara 2 years ago

These people stole from you. They are no better than thieves sneaking in one night and destroying your life, because that is what they did. They are NOT family, they are thieves.

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sherriann johnson 2 years ago

I'm so sad this happened to you! You have the right to be mad and to disown them. It's funny how people violated you and stole valuable cuttings from you, and now have the nerve to act like you are overreacting!!! You are not in my opinion. Unfortunately they never had any respect for you or your belongings.

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Nadine G 2 years ago

If your family is toxic, abusive and entitled and treats you like s**t, you can 100% hold a grudge. I only speak with 4 members of family now, down from a much bigger number, because of this crap. Family does NOT mean it's a free pass to treat each other like sh*t.

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T Smith 2 years ago

Sorry under NO circumstances do you speak to a 14 year old child that way. The plant obsessed woman is out of control. She needs to understand family first. Second the brother and his wife should be Hal’s accountable. The wife should have communicated with the plant crazy lady to confirm which and how much. I feel the SIL roped her daughter into a bad decision/plan. But that is no excuse for the crazy plant lady’s verbal abuse of a child. Both sides are wrong. Keep the courts out of it. And mend those fences at least with the little girl. Maybe crazy plant lady needs to work on her interpersonal skills and some anger management counseling. Clearly she is single and this might explain why b

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago (edited)

Yeah...no. Not only did they happily destroy years of work despite being well past the age of knowing better, but they destroyed a collection worth as much as a car. And did not even remotely care. All to make a quick buck using stolen belongings. If this was jewellery or a restored car, would you say she was just a crazy plant lady? And it's up to the person who did the wrong to "mend those fences". Why on earth should the victim try and repair the relationship when it was the others who broke her trust, the others who stole from her, the others who didn't even care how they hurt her?

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lynda Corkum 2 years ago

Be it a can of soup or entire collection. When someone"steals" your treasure it's violating. That is traumatic feeling. I once came home to my home burglary of everything including my freezer full of food. A $5000 kitchen equipment still in their boxes. My Dixon zeroturn mower. Too much to list! Being violated is life-long trauma that ruins YOUR trust. I don't blame her one bit! Take them to court. 14 years old needs to learn there's consequences to every action. Too late for unethical sister in law!

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Scott Burd 2 years ago

If someone cut up my cannibis sativa plants and sold them, I would be upset, too.

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K Skinner 2 years ago

I totally agree with never wanting them at your house ever again. But to say that you also never want to see or be in the same room again would be difficult and isolating because then it would prevent you from going to family events, which you know that they're going to be invited too, show up and don't talk to them until they make it right in your eyes.

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Carrie Divine 2 years ago

Btw, I love how In love y'all are with your plants! I thought I was the only strange one! Lol.

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Carrie Divine 2 years ago

I would be SO livid. They should give the aunt ALL the $$ they have made from selling the plants. This was about money. If it wasn't, why not wait til the aunt came home and ask her first? No, they saw this as an opportunity. I'd tell them to rot in hell too! How horrible. I'm so sorry. Nothing worse than being betrayed by family.

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shane ross 2 years ago

There's no overreacting here. Its a passion of hers. If somone went n started cutting pieces of the Mona Lisa, would that be ok? No? Why? Oh..u shouldn't destroy other ppl things? Got it... Ppl are so ridiculous. Stealing from loved ones. Its just plain theft. Period. Jail time if u ask me. Especially if the going rate if some of those plants can be high! Could end up being grand theft! Let those 2 think about that.

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Billy Allen 2 years ago

This is grand theft, some of the plants are valued in the thousands of dollars range and come close to $5k for a 10 inch pot.

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Ruieko Dunn 2 years ago

If my niece was 5 years old and pretending to play garden and messed some stuff up....I'd be upset and angry but for a short time. Now this, 14 year old and her mom, I have no trust ever again. Who knows what else they are capable of together. This is the start of something terrible. Teenager doing something so wrong and the parents can't see the bigger problems.

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Abby Heather 2 years ago

Take them to court and sue the s**t out of them!!!!

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Maximiliane S 2 years ago

I cannot believe a 14 year old realized properly what was going on. You never know how much pressure or guilt the mother inflicted so that your niece thought it was okay what they were doing. Never ever was it your nieces idea to sell the plants on marketplace. Maybe you should give her a break for she is still only a child. But the mothers (your SIL) behavior is horrible. She had to know she was greedy, hurting you and ruining the relationship between you and her daughter. Rejection is a horrible thing for kids and teenagers. And from what you wrote I understood your niece really likes you and worshipped the time she spends with you before. Maybe after calming down, you find yourself in the position to forgive at least the kid and teach her there are greater values than money, greed and taking advantage of others. Be the adult she can look up to. Cause her mother obviously isn't a propper role model. Your niece surely feels upset causing you pain and maybe even feels responsible for

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Maximiliane S 2 years ago

Damaging the family so badly. NTA concerning the mother, but maybe you wanna give your niece a chance to make it up to you. I'm sure she has learned her lesson already and is in need to know she is not hated. I guess you're not only upset, angry and devestaded due to the ruined plants, but also a lot due to the betrayal by someone you obviously cared a lot for before. You won't teach a grown up woman (SIL) a lesson. It's not worth it. Adults don't change. But you have the chance to change your nieces life and the path she takes. I'm sure she desperately wants to make it up to you and be worth your love, friendship and trust. It's now up to you, if you can find the strength to forgive her after a while and to care for her, nevertheless what she has done to you.

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Carrie Midd 2 years ago

NTA....these family members, and I use that term loosely, definitely overstepped their boundaries. I also have plants and I would be devastated if this happened to me. They had NO right to take the cuttings themselves. They would have been given the cuttings. Shameful behavior.

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Stef Wambui 2 years ago

It's absolutely horrendous of them to have done that and I get where she's coming from and if I were her I'd never want to be in the same room with them ever again. That mother is teaching her child very bad ethics.

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Crispy Toast 2 years ago

Sounds like SIL has been waiting for an opportunity to steal from her husband's sister, and unfortunately got one. Small claims is definitely in order, especially if they don't want to.cough up the money they made. Personally, I would punch SIL in the mouth in front of her theiving little creep of a daughter, and then when the shouting started, I would say, "what's done is done, you (fill in favorite word). She's lucky. I would have been at her house with a ball bat.

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Lu Harris 2 years ago

As tempting as that sounds, never surrender the high ground to violence or it will cost you in the long run.

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Christopher Moreau 2 years ago

Yep, one thing is for certain. They should reimburse you.

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Glo Saint-Aime 2 years ago

Plants are expensive and some are very rare, my boyfriend loves plants and would do the same exact thing nerve speak to them eb get again. That was very low of them and greedy, especially if Jenny knew how to care for the plants she obviously would know her mom was killing them.... ugh.... family and the broth her doesn't get it, if it was his prized collection of something and it was damaged or sold he would flip also.....

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Shinyravengirl 2 years ago

They would never come in my home again.

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Ursula Erickson 2 years ago

I am not a house plant lover and until I read your post I did not realize the importance that they bring. I was educated today. My dog is my everything, if I ever loose it will be something you have done to my dog and the fact you were brought to that mental level by family was uncalled for. Everyone has their own opinion on family is more important and that's awesome but here is my opinion family is not more important, as they have proven that. As I have had and seen family be a crap hole of person, strangers are nicer and caring.. with that being said those people got exactly what they deserved. It comes down to the principal and they violated that. Look at all these strangers and their kind words. I sure didn't hear them as family say how sorry they were. You had every right for what you did and good for you!

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J 2 years ago

Just to let the community know, I sold my albo monstera NODE (meaning not even something with roots or leaves) for $90 and was told multiple times that I sold it for much cheaper than you would find elsewhere.

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hearts ash 2 years ago

thieves, they can b*rn in h*ll. i agree 100% they need to learn a lesson, and cutting them out like they cut out your plants is letting them off easy. would most definitely take those thieves to court and get reimbursed.

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Mateus Bernardes 2 years ago (edited)

Family is more important. But a Niece and her mother isn't exactly what i call family...

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Kerilyn Monge 2 years ago

I have many plants and non of them are that expensive and pretty easy to get, except for my pink princess philodendron. If i came home to find her all cut up I'd be pissed. I dont have a job yet cause i can't get one just yet where I live so all the plants I have are either gifted or I've had to save up from helping out around our properties to get them. My pink princess philodendron is my most expensive plant right now and it took me months to save up for her, i have a few succulents that are considered collection plants and are on the more expensive side, along with my nepenthes (carnivorous plant). I'm lucky enough that my family respects my plants and the work I've had to put into then to get them and get them to grow.

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SillyPandaBunny 2 years ago

NTA this is like asking someone to pet sit for your dog and they use them to bred behind your back. Totally unacceptable. When she said she would share cuttings I’m guessing she meant she would take the cuttings herself and gift them to her niece afterwards. Not cool.

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Amy Pontious 2 years ago

My best friend has over 80 plants in her home and has names for them so I completely understand how upset you are. What a horrible thing that your niece thought it was to take something that didn't belong to her ,could way to start off if she's probably moved on to stealing things from other people and mom is encouraging her to do it! I understand never letting those 2 in your house again but never being in a room with them again is a little over board I would use it and bring it up that where ever they are should double check 2 make sure nothing is taken and I think u should take them to court because my opinion is your niece is going to keep taken things that don't belong to her! I hope your plants are and can recover from there horrible haircuts!!!

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emma uwu 2 years ago (edited)

this is crazy- people really do be sensitive these days- take it up with the sil but not the kid, be an adult about it, imagine how that little girl feels now, youre just the crazy aunt that broke her heart- you cant just scream at your niece like that, thats just plain crazy. i understand youre angry but dont tell a kid you hope she burns in hell- toxic people fr

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

They literally broke her trust to destroy thousand and thousands of dollars worth of cherished items, and stole from her in order to make a quick buck off of her hard work. So no, not sensitive. And that kid SHOULD feel bad, 14 is more than old enough to know better regardless of what the mother was doing.

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Jill Nunes 2 years ago

Yes please sue them teach them s lesson and show there true colors on judge Judy or one of the ones that are doing it threw computer so you don't have to leave them again and $5000 is max and enough to teach mom lesson. She not teaching her daughter anything good. And maybe go on market place and ask people if they bought cutting from them and how much they paid for them start adding it up. And yes I wouldn't want to talk to them about anything other again those was your baby's and kids you raised for years. I had a huge plant that was so long it covered my ceiling and had hooks holding it up. My boyfriend trimmed the shi* outta it and pissed me off yes we was moving but didn't even ask me or keep the cuttings I been mad at him for years and still bring it up and today again after reading this lol. I have lot of succulents and learned some are hard to take care of and others that grow like crazy lol. Please let us know if you took them to court please Im nosy bitc* 🤣

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Earl Blueberry 2 years ago

I'd definitely haul their asses through the court

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Kay Meadows 2 years ago

Take them to court and make them pay you for replacement plants I would be passed off too

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Allison M 2 years ago

I would never get over it. Plants are like pets to plant people, so they killed and maimed your family. Goodbye. There are lots of plant friends online, that maybe you could find someone trustworthy, if you need to leave again. I’m so sorry this happened to you, and your feelings are legit.

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Amy Rhea 2 years ago

I am not a plant lover, but I can definitely see how you would be upset. These are not only rare, but you’ve taken so much time to care for them. Some people lack empathy if they don’t understand a passion of another; they can’t understand why someone would be so upset. If I spent years caring for something, & someone destroyed it, I would be furious! And the fact that it was family makes it worse-I would also be devastated. I’m sorry this happened. I hope these comments help you feel validated.

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anthony moring 2 years ago

I think this is an overreaction and hear me out. The SIL is 100% in the wrong. But why she blamed a 14 year old girl and her mom who was selling the plants equally is absolutely insane. She can't be trusted to drive a car yet but you think she masterminded this whole plan? This is a problem between her and the SIL and it would be a shame to cut out a kid because of her crappy parent.

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Lu Harris 2 years ago

No doubt SIL orchestrated the heists and sales, but the niece knew what she was doing and completely violated her aunt's trust by knowingly and with premeditation robbing her -- using the cultivating and cutting skills her aunt had taught her -- and repeatedly lying to her father about having permission to do it. 7-year olds can be expected to distinguish right from wrong. This 14-year old needs a major course correction.

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Collin No 2 years ago

I hope they both burn in hell." Yeah, something tells me theyre not the irredeemable ones.

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Shreeky 2 years ago

If she has been sneaking before you taught your niece how to do it, the SIL is the one to blame. Sounds like to me that SIL had to either bribe her daughter to "get interested" into plants or threatened her. A 14yr old wouldn't do that on their own if they had been were taught right by the parents to start with. I have 2 daughters myself ones 18 the other will be 14 soon. My kids knows better to do something like that.Apparently the mom has been brainwashing her kid to steal from the family, that it's ok to take things especially when you will be getting em anyways from the relative. I have a cousin just like that cause my aunt taught her to "pick up items when oppps someone left it around without the owners in sight" it's called "Finders Keepers" NOT stealing (like my cousin was taught, & still steals çràp & she's almost 37yrs old).Seems like SIL may had taught her daughter the same thing as my cousin was taught.Stealing is stealing but stealing from the family. THAT.IS.NOT.OK.EITHER

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Rivka Ostroff 2 years ago

I would attend large gatherings like weddings with them but not Thanksgiving dinner. I'm surprised she didn't at least demand the money they made as well

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That Damn Taurus 2 years ago (edited)

I agree take her to small claims court and I hope you do it on one of those national television Court shows. Preferably hot bench or judge Mathis. You could never hurt them because they planned that .I feel like your brother feels bad but he feels stuck in the Middle. I would definitely take her to court because rather it cost $1 or $1,000 it doesn't matter that was your property and you loved it. So you should make her pay by going to court that way. You can mend your family relationship. Because I think if she is held accountable made to give you the money that they made off of it and have to replace the plants. You've been made whole again and then. you should start the healing process. But as long as it's an open wound you not going to be able to heal. I would take the sister-in-law to court and have your niece as your witness and your brother. Only way I would sue the niece if it cost more than $5,000. Because in most states that's the legal limit for small claims court. Then I will sue her as well so I can get all my money back.

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Cat Monaghan 2 years ago (edited)

From my perspective, this is first and foremost about trust. She trusted her niece because she taught her. She trusted her SIL because she knew the importance of these plants, also. To me, it doesn't matter what the property is/was, the trust was broken, no if, ands or buts. And THAT in and of itself would make me lose it. Once trust is broken, especially by family, it's very hard to win back.

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Jus 2 years ago

I would do the same thing... Never contact them again. Brother didn't know anything, he's not guilty. Btw, I checked the plants she mentioned, they are super ugly to me. But she loved them and they were her treasure.

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JuniorCJ82 2 years ago

Your house, your rules. NTA.

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Munchkin 2 years ago

if it was just the cuttings maybe i would have understood but SELLING THEM DELIBERATELY??? i don't blame you but maybe forgive your niece soon because she's a kid?

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Aimee Harvey 2 years ago

Agreed that they were TOTALLY in the wrong, & I DO understand her not wanting to be in the same room, especially w/SIL, as she is an adult! Even the niece apparently knew better & she absolutely was being sneaky, & the fact that her Mother "okayed" it likely allowed her to go to places she shouldn't have dreamed of going.. HOWEVER, I do draw the line at wishing a 14 yr old to "burn in hell where she belongs". WTF! I'm shocked nobody else has even mentioned this! I'm an Atheist, so it's not as if I think she will actually burn in a place called Hell for eternity, but ffs, teenagers are infamous for doing DUMB crap & I know damn well I did things myself that were pretty messed up; it doesn't mean I'm a horrible person as an adult, or that I was "irredeemable" as a person. I also realize ppl say things they don't actually mean when they're super upset & angry, but it seems OP is still feeling the same; Just can't imagine wishing burning in hell on a CHILD, especially my own niece!!

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

Children learn what they live …….right ?

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Mazer 2 years ago

Here is where the OP went wrong, but not being specific about propagation limits before leaving. My cousin had the same problem in telling a renter that he could use anything in her garage. He used an heirloom tin as an ashtray. My cousin was livid but she set up the scenario by not being specific. I don’t agree with the destruction done, in fact I am all for the sitters having to pay restitution, but be careful about how people interpret your words

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Bobbie Meyers 2 years ago

Uh, they took so much the plants will probably die. Yeah, I think they knew they were way beyond a reasonable limit, which might be two SMALL ones per plant.

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Joan Stonich 2 years ago

Please. She was supposed to give a Master class in horticultural before traveling? Why were they doing anything to the plants except as directed by OP?

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MICHAEL GEE 2 years ago (edited)

IF THEY ALL GO TO COURT SWARE ON A BIBLE ( THO BIBLE SAID SWARE NOT AT ALL ) TO TELL THE JESUS THE WHOLE JESUS AND NOTHING BUT THE JESUS SO HELP THEM GOD SINCE GOD THE FATHER & JESUS CHRIST GOD THE SON & GOD THE HOLY GHOST ARE ALL GOD & GOD SAID LET GOD BE TRUE & EVERY MAN A LIAR & JESUS CHRIST SAID I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH & THE LIFE NO ONE COMES TO GOD BUT BY ME & JESUS CHRIST IS THE WORD MADE FLESH JOHN SAID & JESUS CHRIST NAME IS CALLED THE WORD OF GOD JUDGING WORDS OR ACTIONS IS 1 THING CONDEMNING PEOPLE TO HELL IS TO PUT SELF ON GODS THRONE & INFLUENCES COME FROM OUTSIDE INTO OUR HEARTS & MINDS BUT WORDS COME FROM THE HEART & DEFILE PERSON JESUS SAID BY OUR WORDS WE BE JUSTIFIED BY OUR WORDS WE BE CONDEMNED & GOD WORD SAID WHOSOEVER WILL CAN BE REDEEMED NOT WHOSOEVER UNLESS SOMEONE OBJECTS GOD SAID JUDGING IS INEXCUSABLE IMAGINE THIS SCENARIO IN GODS COURTROOM IN HEAVEN ON JUDGEMENT DAY WHERE MERCY IS GIVEN MERCY IS SHOWN BUT WHOEVER JUDGES WITHOUT MERCY SHALL BE JUDGED WITHOUT MERCY SO ARE PEOPLES TEMPORARY OPINIONS OR GODS TRUTH IN JESUS CHRIST THE WORD SOVEREIGN PEOPLE TURNED AWAY FROM GOD IS WHY THE WORLD & USA ARE IN A MESS & WHY WE HAVE THE POLITICAL LEADERS WE DO INSTEAD OF GODLY ONES & THEIR OPINIONS DON'T MATTER TO GOD EITHER PRESIDENT POPE PRIME MINISTER POLITICIAN POLICE PARENT PUBLIC OFFICIAL OR PERSON OR PREACHER PROPHET OR PASTOR IF IT DISAGREES WITH WHAT GOD SAID IN HIS WORD

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Shabbir Yamani 2 years ago

Family. Is what matters. Family. (Vin diesel) Family. Not plants... Just stop being obsessed and get a family of your own, kids, pets, and you won't have time to give a effing second for grass...

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Albert 2 years ago

Yeah... They shouldn't have done that. But.... Come-on. it's plants. To each their own, I guess.

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Laura Pantazis 2 years ago

The family should absolutely pay for the plants, but the reaction - especially to a child - was way over the top. This could have been resolved so much better through talking it out and developing a repayment plan for the sister to pay for the valuable flowers that were destroyed. Instead the aunt taught the niece that it is acceptable to scream, yell, and tell people terrible things just because you are angry. That isn't a productive way of solving problems. Then when confronted, the aunt doubled down on her response. This was a definite ESH.

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Lu Harris 2 years ago

The niece is 14, not 4, and fully knew how much her aunt loved those plants. Witnessing the aunt's unbridled grief at the premeditated damage she caused will hopefully stick with her and help her be a better person going forward.

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Falkor Fable 2 years ago

I mean, the child wouldn't be behaving like that if the mother didn't instill it in her. It really seems like the kid just wanted a few cuttings and the mother went overboard. The kid was *14*, they don't have the ability to sell on marketplace. Truly, I think the plant owner as a god awful person for being so abusive towards a literal child when it was the mother's fault, and I am pleased her plants got ruined. Any adult that thinks it's okay to treat a child like that doesn't deserve nice things.

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

If youre old enough to use a computer, and to lie about your age when signing up to social media, you are old enough to sell on marketplace.

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rumade 2 years ago

Ooft. I don't think OP should have screamed, but she is very right to be upset. We have a houseplant my dad grew from seed in 1986 and it's practically a member of the family.

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Boreedout of my mind 2 years ago

So is stealing

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Seanette Blaylock 2 years ago

So you're blaming the victim of a theft for expecting family members to not steal from her? Nice.

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madbakes 2 years ago

The burn in hell is a bit much, but do you not remember being 14? You weren't that much of a kid.

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Wren Hard 2 years ago

i hate how everyone is comparing all other problems to Ukraine. We still have a right to be upset about our own problems. On a 'what do you want me to pray for' post, hundreds of people were saying Ukraine. One person said the people in Australia who had been affected and killed by the floods. All of their replies were saying how selfish they were for not mentioning ukraine.

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Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago (edited)

Simmer down! We don’t know when this happened, so it may have predated the war in Ukraine. Besides, it’s not only the plants, it’s also the time and effort to get them healthy and flourishing, plus the amount of money spent doing it which led to the enormous value of the whole plants and their cuttings. So, not the insignificant family tiff you think it is.

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ShatteredExisistance 2 years ago

Yeah it’s clear you know jack s**t about plants/species and how expensive certain things are. They did this out of GREED. Just because there’s a war going on doesn’t mean the rest of the world just stops

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Tricia Sloan 2 years ago

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Boreedout of my mind 2 years ago

Ruining thousands dollars worth of plants is "silly" now?

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madbakes 2 years ago

Thousands and thousands of dollars and God knows how many hours of effort caring for those plants. And she taught her niece how to trim. I would not be chilling out either.

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Hayhaypaula 2 years ago

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Alex 2 years ago

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KingShitofFuckMountain 2 years ago

I wouldn't even go small claims. I'd file a police report and have both charged with robbery/larceny

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Marcellus the Third 2 years ago

Small claims doesn't cover the costs here, that's thousands if half-way well done.

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Kristina H.N. 2 years ago

It's funny they want her to let go since "family" while they destroyed and sold her stuff and keeping the money

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Christi Clifford 2 years ago

Agreed, this was theft and abuse of your trust and then gaslighting you that your reaction is too severe. They straight up destroyed your work and stole your product.

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bean 2 years ago

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WatermelonTheDutchie 2 years ago

holy s**t thats expensive

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KittyMommy 2 years ago

And the albo monstera is worth a lot more. A decent sized cutting starts around $150 on up. Full plant can go for $6,000

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Shea Boland 2 years ago

It can easily get even worse. That albo monstera could easily go for 5000 dollars depending on how big it was originally.

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June 2 years ago

Plants are a long term commitment. You put efforts, energy, and money in the process. They can be very important for one's mental health. Don't mess with people's plants...

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mewmew34 2 years ago

Looked up some, too. Makes me wish I was any good caring for plants. Would totally save up for a pink princess if I thought I could keep it alive any worthwhile length of time.

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Parmeisan 2 years ago

Worse than just jewellery, as this was a passion of hers and she grew these plants over many years. Say one-of-a-kind, hand-made jewellery and now we're on the same page.

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Susie Smith 2 years ago

AND to send a HUGE Christmas card to them every year showing her brand new plants with her Court money raining down all over them. AHHH... SWEET JUSTICE!!

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Sherman Von Gee 2 years ago

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Julian Scherner 2 years ago

Kathy Bates? Man, that's awsome! I'm naming my aloes Annie and Paul now 😁

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CL Rowan 2 years ago

Arrested. I've seen a few French Quarter gardens. They would be shot before the cops got there!

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Leodavinci 2 years ago

It's not necessary to hold a grudge to avoid being abused.

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Bobbie Meyers 2 years ago (edited)

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Mary Bricklin 2 years ago

There is absolutely no difference. Plants and animals are living creatures and they do a lot of good for us humans. They are family, no doubt about it.

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Lady Goldberry 2 years ago

I'm a bibliophile and have a carefully nurtured library. I would be as devastated as the OP if someone pulled the same s**t on me. Pure theft.

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CL Rowan 2 years ago

I hope you sued them back to bankruptcy over their malfeasance!

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Lulxby 2 years ago

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Jaaawn 2 years ago

Sometimes it's perfectly justifiable to yell at a teenager. Age shouldn't be a free get-out-of-jail card. Even smaller children know not to steal or be complicit in theft.

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Boreedout of my mind 2 years ago

Teenagers are not kids, if you don't yell at them or they don't face consequences for bad actions because of age it's gonna be a real shock when they grow up

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Susie Smith 2 years ago

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CL Rowan 2 years ago

If she has the gall to steal, she can take being yelled at. *I* would have blistered her a**e until she couldn't sit!

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Mer☕️🧭☕️ 2 years ago

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Susie Smith 2 years ago

Make sure to add a DEADBOLT!!

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Moezzzz 2 years ago

Holy s**t!!! That albo monstera is selling between $100-$1000 for a TINY one. Most are selling between $5000-$10,000!!!!! They knew what they were doing! She better get that money back!

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Demi Coro 2 years ago

I would have filed a police report. Theft is theft.

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marcie harris 2 years ago

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Potato Panda 2 years ago

Sue their ass off. Good lord.

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Bubs623 2 years ago

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the awesome Piplup 2 years ago

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Lemonclouds20 2 years ago

This is devastating and they've made a small fortune . I'm so angry for the OP. Trust has been obliterated

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Lyone Fein 2 years ago

The thieves need to give the OP all of the money they made . All of it. If they do not, sue them.

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GenericPanda09 2 years ago (edited)

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Vivian Ashe 2 years ago

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Joan Stonich 2 years ago

Thank you, yes!

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Katinka Min 2 years ago (edited)

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Lobo 2 years ago (edited)

More like never again.

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Dre Mosley 2 years ago

NTA. The SIL saw dollar signs and knew what she was gonna do as soon as the owner left town and she and the neice were alone with those plants.

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Jeannette 2 years ago

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Rachel Betancort 2 years ago

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Shaylin Anderson 2 years ago

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Dinetk 2 years ago

This is theft. I own several rare plants, too, like Monstera alba. They are very expensive.

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Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago

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Chas UGC 2 years ago

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Lydia Rodaway 2 years ago

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marcie harris 2 years ago

Agree 100%. Call the police. Take them to court. Demand they pay it back.

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Lara Verne 2 years ago

What the f**k. SIL simply stole Op 's plants and sold them for profit. It's not like she damaged plants by accident.

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Nandina 2 years ago

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Patti Vance 2 years ago

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Ashley Kelly 2 years ago (edited)

NTA. They destroyed an expensive hobby on purpose for profit. That kid will only get worse, folks.

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j. kiser 2 years ago

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CatWoman312 2 years ago

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dee dee 2 years ago

Oh noooo! I am horrified! As a plant mum, I am so so sorry this happened. I would be devastated too. If anyone mistreated my potted babies I would go postal.

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Susie Smith 2 years ago

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j. kiser 2 years ago

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Leon LHeureux 2 years ago

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CMDR unematti 2 years ago

Sounds like a police matter, thievery, or vandalism, either way should be easy to get them to pay

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Leslie Harris 2 years ago

totally take them to court, all the proceeds from the sale of the cuttings should be turned over to you. You are NTA, they totally are.

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Enby.Minecraft.Bee. 2 years ago

I don't think the OP overreacted at all. Those are THEIR plants. They deserved what they got especially the SIL

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Ruben M 2 years ago

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Melba Lipscomb 2 years ago

I understand the anger, hurt and betrayal. I would not want to see them again much less speak to them again.

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Tommi Ann Raines 2 years ago

5points

Deberra Engelke 2 years ago

I have one word: lawsuit. I know I would. Oh and, the crime is called malicious destruction of property. No consequences means no lesson learned and future vicimization of others. Js...

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j. kiser 2 years ago

More like 3 words. Small Claims Court....not Lawsuit. These types of cases go to s.c.c not a trial lawsuit.

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RobbedofLife 2 years ago

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Linda Powder 2 years ago

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j. kiser 2 years ago

Calm tf down! It's a 14yr old child. Saying a 14yr old kid doesn't deserve a second chance with family, ever, would make her a serious major pos!

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Lobo 2 years ago (edited)

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Cherries and Lace 2 years ago

3points

Jonathan West 2 years ago

Eesh. I feel terrible for OP, and I also feel terrible that, it would seem, Jenny has been poorly raised.

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Stepha Wilson 2 years ago

3points

Ravenkingofaplanet 2 years ago

I would kill if someone touched any of my plants, even the cheap ones.

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j. kiser 2 years ago

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Susanne B 2 years ago

I feel that asking them never to enter your house again is perfectly justified, but you could be in the same room with them for family gatherings, if it was not in your house.

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marcie harris 2 years ago

Nope. These people are criminals. I would never want to be in a room with them again. Ever.

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It's Me 2 years ago

I gotta say the brother isn’t an a*****e. But that’s pretty much the end of that.

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Lobo 2 years ago

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Cynthia Gurin 2 years ago

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

Not to mention, those plants are actually incredibly valuable. Depending on the size of them, that collection would be worth as much as a car.

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suzanne hollrah 2 years ago (edited)

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j. kiser 2 years ago (edited)

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Caroline S 2 years ago

Take them to small claims court. Your brother is an ass for not offering to pay for the damages his crappy family did.

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Heather Barber 2 years ago

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Ren Ka 2 years ago

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Denise Neil 2 years ago

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RedOphelia 13 2 years ago

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RedOphelia 13 2 years ago

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Aimee Harvey 2 years ago

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Blondieybat 2 years ago

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Red 2 years ago

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RADUGA.babochka 2 years ago

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Kimberly Poole 2 years ago

1point

Nina Stinstrom 2 years ago

1point

Chamber Laine 2 years ago

1point

Dawn Kelly 2 years ago

1point

Craig Christilaw 2 years ago

That is just nasty there's not even words for it

1point

Craig Christilaw 2 years ago

1point

Wren Hard 2 years ago

wow, i would have literally killed them right then

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j. kiser 2 years ago

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Sue Thaxter 2 years ago

They are Thieves. Make them replace all the plants. Take them to court if you have too. They are not acting like a family

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Sue Thaxter 2 years ago

They are thieves. My plants mean more to me than jewelry and they knew how she felt. That is not how real family treats each other. Make them buy replacements.

1point

Stannous Flouride 2 years ago

"Family means not holding grudges" is a load of (insert disgusting mass of your choice here)

1point

Gabrielle B. Marcelo 2 years ago (edited)

tricia sloan op said a few clippings not most of her fucken houseplants

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Jacqueline Smith 2 years ago

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

Wouldn't even bother with that. Just produce a pic showing how big they were beforehand, and evidence of what those plants at that size currently sell for.

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Cliff Ruiz 2 years ago (edited)

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H.L.Lewis 2 years ago

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Tacos Are Tasty 2 years ago

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marcie harris 2 years ago

1point

Robin DJW 2 years ago

This was horrible. I have no skill at all with plants, but I wish I did, and my heart bleeds for OP.

1point

Pumpkin Spice 2 years ago

NTA, AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH. THEY DESTROYED YOUR PLANTS. YOUR BABIES. THOSE ARE YOUR CHILDREN BASICALLY. THEY CUT YOUR DAUGHTER'S FINGERS AND TOES OFF.

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j. kiser 2 years ago

Ok....You're an idiot! Plants & human beings....not the same in any way. It's not all like they severed fingers & toes of a child. Get a grip!!!

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blatherskitenoir 2 years ago

She should look up their marketplace postings, make copies, and show them to her brother and family, to show that the plants were valuable and that she's not crazy, this was all planned.

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blatherskitenoir 2 years ago (edited)

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JaniG 2 years ago (edited)

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John Wilson 2 years ago

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Nightshade1972 2 years ago

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Craig Reynolds 2 years ago

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

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KT 2 years ago

NTA and take her to small claims. They made thousands off your plants knowing full well they were destroying them in the process.

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MJ 2 years ago

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Canderous Urrtha 2 years ago

So theft destruction of private property and the sale of stolen goods..op needs to press charges

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Ar 2 years ago

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Arimentha Maria Hill-Whiley 2 years ago

Sue them & make them give you the money they earned plus for pain & suffering...& air them out on social media when you win.

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Mary Swisher 2 years ago

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Joanna Jester 2 years ago

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j. kiser 2 years ago

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TG Davis 2 years ago (edited)

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Mary Bricklin 2 years ago (edited)

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Casha scy 2 years ago (edited)

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Tanisha Montgomery 2 years ago

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Eileen Shea 2 years ago

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Bill Kotsias 2 years ago (edited)

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

Uh...they knew it was theft. They just didn't care, because as they themselves said "it's just plants". They didn't care.

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Karen Greer Carriker 2 years ago

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Krysta Pandoo 2 years ago (edited)

I'm angry on behalf of this person, I'm actually shaking . This was all about money Those disgusting people deserved every word. Should sue for destruction of property and theft. String the ahs up.

0points

Drew Hernandez 2 years ago

Never trust that kind of value with anyone. Especially don't do business with Family. She obviously needed money so she was never an ethical candidate.

0points

Drew Hernandez 2 years ago

Never do business with family.

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Nina Pispala 2 years ago

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Janet Ross 2 years ago

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Kanga9ine 2 years ago

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Melissa Hamner 2 years ago

I dunno what family he’s from. Mine is from the South, and we have fights that last for CENTURIES. OP has excellent grounds for disowning the lot.

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

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Benito 2 years ago

this is the reason the united states is under judgment…because the love of one’s self has overtaken the love for our neighbor… terrible and embarrassing

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

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j. kiser 2 years ago

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

Amen Benito , amen !!!

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Tijuri 2 years ago

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Fernando Garcia 2 years ago

Wow, it amazes me how so many people immediately recognize this as wrong yet the mother and daughter duo had no regrets or shame at any point before the owner found out for herself.

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

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Nombuso Ntuli 2 years ago

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Lululoohoo 2 years ago

I'd be worried about rant 14yo's sense of entitlement especially with a mom like that. Yikes

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

Exactly!! Children learn what they live !! Such a selfish generation!

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CL Rowan 2 years ago (edited)

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Bljurg 2 years ago

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Candy Berg 2 years ago

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Jasmine Walter 2 years ago

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

Go on and preach that gurl !!

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Christian Jordan 2 years ago

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Jessica Macklemoore 2 years ago

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Marie Bourn 2 years ago

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Danni Elliott 2 years ago

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Katrina Koelbel 2 years ago

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Mari Janne 2 years ago

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Geraldine Petrou 2 years ago

They had no right to take cuttingsfrom your plants and sell them. Take them to court. I would no longer speak to them.

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Ruby Price 2 years ago

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Nomad Industries 2 years ago

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Shehzadi Amal 2 years ago

This made my heart drop into my gut. This is horrendous.

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D. Dos Santos 2 years ago

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Chris Cox 2 years ago

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Leslie Bryant 2 years ago

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lara 2 years ago

These people stole from you. They are no better than thieves sneaking in one night and destroying your life, because that is what they did. They are NOT family, they are thieves.

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sherriann johnson 2 years ago

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Nadine G 2 years ago

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T Smith 2 years ago

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago (edited)

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lynda Corkum 2 years ago

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Scott Burd 2 years ago

If someone cut up my cannibis sativa plants and sold them, I would be upset, too.

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K Skinner 2 years ago

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Carrie Divine 2 years ago

Btw, I love how In love y'all are with your plants! I thought I was the only strange one! Lol.

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Carrie Divine 2 years ago

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shane ross 2 years ago

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Billy Allen 2 years ago

This is grand theft, some of the plants are valued in the thousands of dollars range and come close to $5k for a 10 inch pot.

0points

Ruieko Dunn 2 years ago

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Abby Heather 2 years ago

Take them to court and sue the s**t out of them!!!!

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Maximiliane S 2 years ago

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Maximiliane S 2 years ago

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Carrie Midd 2 years ago

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Crispy Toast 2 years ago

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Lu Harris 2 years ago

As tempting as that sounds, never surrender the high ground to violence or it will cost you in the long run.

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Christopher Moreau 2 years ago

Yep, one thing is for certain. They should reimburse you.

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Glo Saint-Aime 2 years ago

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Shinyravengirl 2 years ago

They would never come in my home again.

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Ursula Erickson 2 years ago

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J 2 years ago

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hearts ash 2 years ago

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Mateus Bernardes 2 years ago (edited)

Family is more important. But a Niece and her mother isn't exactly what i call family...

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Kerilyn Monge 2 years ago

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SillyPandaBunny 2 years ago

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Earl Blueberry 2 years ago

I'd definitely haul their asses through the court

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Kay Meadows 2 years ago

Take them to court and make them pay you for replacement plants I would be passed off too

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Allison M 2 years ago

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Amy Rhea 2 years ago

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Collin No 2 years ago

I hope they both burn in hell." Yeah, something tells me theyre not the irredeemable ones.

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Shreeky 2 years ago

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Rivka Ostroff 2 years ago

I would attend large gatherings like weddings with them but not Thanksgiving dinner. I'm surprised she didn't at least demand the money they made as well

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That Damn Taurus 2 years ago (edited)

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Cat Monaghan 2 years ago (edited)

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Jus 2 years ago

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JuniorCJ82 2 years ago

Your house, your rules. NTA.

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Munchkin 2 years ago

if it was just the cuttings maybe i would have understood but SELLING THEM DELIBERATELY??? i don't blame you but maybe forgive your niece soon because she's a kid?

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Aimee Harvey 2 years ago

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Missy Wheeler Doyle 2 years ago

Children learn what they live …….right ?

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Mazer 2 years ago

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Bobbie Meyers 2 years ago

Uh, they took so much the plants will probably die. Yeah, I think they knew they were way beyond a reasonable limit, which might be two SMALL ones per plant.

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Joan Stonich 2 years ago

Please. She was supposed to give a Master class in horticultural before traveling? Why were they doing anything to the plants except as directed by OP?

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rumade 2 years ago

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MICHAEL GEE 2 years ago (edited)

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Shabbir Yamani 2 years ago

Family. Is what matters. Family. (Vin diesel) Family. Not plants... Just stop being obsessed and get a family of your own, kids, pets, and you won't have time to give a effing second for grass...

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Albert 2 years ago

Yeah... They shouldn't have done that. But.... Come-on. it's plants. To each their own, I guess.

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Laura Pantazis 2 years ago

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Lu Harris 2 years ago

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Falkor Fable 2 years ago

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Lauren Christie 2 years ago

If youre old enough to use a computer, and to lie about your age when signing up to social media, you are old enough to sell on marketplace.

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rumade 2 years ago

Ooft. I don't think OP should have screamed, but she is very right to be upset. We have a houseplant my dad grew from seed in 1986 and it's practically a member of the family.

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Boreedout of my mind 2 years ago

So is stealing

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Seanette Blaylock 2 years ago

So you're blaming the victim of a theft for expecting family members to not steal from her? Nice.

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madbakes 2 years ago

The burn in hell is a bit much, but do you not remember being 14? You weren't that much of a kid.

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ShatteredExisistance 2 years ago

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Tricia Sloan 2 years ago

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Boreedout of my mind 2 years ago

Ruining thousands dollars worth of plants is "silly" now?

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madbakes 2 years ago

Thousands and thousands of dollars and God knows how many hours of effort caring for those plants. And she taught her niece how to trim. I would not be chilling out either.

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Woman Refuses To See Her Niece And Sister-In-Law After They Trim Her Houseplants And Sell The Cuttings On Marketplace

This woman entrusted her plants to her niece and SIL while she was away and when she returned, she regretted ever doing that

The OP really loves plants and has a collection of 35 that are quite rare and some of them are expensive

When she had to go on a work trip, she turned to her niece to ask her to take care of her plants as they both shared an interest in this hobby

The OP didn’t expect to return to her houseplants having some drastic ‘haircuts’ with only a few leaves left on some of them

So when the niece and SIL came to return the keys, she gave them a piece of her mind and demanded they return all the clippings

Turns out, they couldn’t as they’d sold most of them, which indicated to the OP that they were aware of what they were doing

SIL’s husband, OP’s brother, was more compassionate but thought that the woman should have let it go as they all are family

The woman doesn’t want to see her SIL or niece in her house or be in the same room with them and is asking if she’s being too dramatic

People in the comments believe that the OP has the right to be angry and she was taken advantage of

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