Mathias: you are aware that a man could possibly approach her despite if she gives her consent or not?

But Mathias, if you give her your number and she's not going to contact you, then what's the point of having her number? She's obviously not interested, so you're (and I don't mean you specifically) just wanting her number so you can harrass her into a date? Think how laid back and relaxed about it a guy would seem if he just gave her his number and said "call me"? He'd be no worse off than he would if he insisted on her number then she rejected him.

Mathias - men who ‘Conquer’ women because they ‘Allow’ it or are asking for it are called PREDATORS. If YOU want it more simple - if you give a woman your number and she doesn’t contact you it’s because she’s not interested.

It appears our friend Mathias here has read a couple of books about women - written by men of course - so he thinks he has everything figured out. And if an actual woman disagrees with him she is running amok. It's ok though - I'm sure Mathias is a very 'Nice Guy'

What kind of science is that? source please.

Mathias, you're an idiot. You're an entitled idiot. Do you really think a woman is a kind of slot machine, that if you keep slotting in "nice" into them, that a girlfriend will fall out?? A woman can like a guy real well without feeling obligated to have any kind of relationship with him! So just give her your phone number, and expect nothing. Let HER make the choice if she trusts you, if she want to take a chance on you, or maybe she just wants to be single at the moment!! She's not obligated to cater to your fragile ego, you know!! She does have a free mind of her own!!

Ew, ugh. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

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KJ, so explain me: when a man gives the women the number and she calls him that's ok. But when a women gives the man the number and he calls her that is not ok and he is a predator. Where is the logic? You are very welcome to explain why you think it is that way, also be welcome to cite any source so I can read or listen into it - only one condition: it has to be scientific. For example clinical psychology or an expert in behavioural science who studied different species (and not only humans) over years like Andreas Paul did.

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Angela Anderson: so you are saying that I have to call a women an entiteled idiot to respectuflly disagree, accuse her of many things and not explain why? I always thought that was rude, well seems like I learned from the wrong women, now I understand the reactions here. So what other swearwords should a man use when disagreeing with a women to be considered respectful? Also I always thought to judge the quality of a work by gender instead of its actual quality is sexism. Are you a sexist? In my country you would get in trouble with the law because sexisms is forbidden here and it doesn't matter wether it's done by a man or women because of gender equality.

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Brima Gustafsson wow, what an emotional explosion, I feel the anger in you but that has nothing to with what I wrote. Fun thing is I now explained twice that it's the women making the choices and the man adapting to the womans choice. Yet you read something completely different. Please read again carefully especially my reply to RoraRora. Then feel free to discuss the topic in a civilised way. Or if you want to keep running amok that's fine it's your life and your choice to make it meaningful or a misery.

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Delgada read any book about behavioral research that is not written by a social justice warrior. Easy to read, a bit dated but still good for beginners would be Desmond Morris, if you want to go deeper I can suggest the excellent book of Andreas Paul about apes and humans, or for example Jordan Peterson has all his university lectures online free to watch on youtube. Behavioural Science is in general not a 10 minutes read know it all topic but something you have to spend time with and go deep as there is no 1+1=2 like in maths but general patterns with a huge lot of influences that can falsify the results that makes it hard to sometimes impossible to know for sure.

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RaroaRaroa, if she has your number and doesn't contact you it can have 100 reasons of which only one is that she's not interested. But as said that's not how dating works. The women gives the guy her number because it is his job to prove to be a worthy partner, this has biological reasons no women wants a quitter to be the father of her children - after all it's the women who gets pregnant. So she offers the men the chance to prove himself. Part of that is that he calls her, he shows interest even if she makes it not totally easy for him all the time a lot of culture mixes in there too some cultures developed strictly to be followed rituals for that, in other places it's easy going follow your heart. But in every culture the man has to prove he is a good keep. It is the burden of the women to teach man they are not good enough by rejection, and man either learn from it, grow up to be a good partner, the rock to lean on. Or blame the messenger for their own faults.

Just because we're in the middle of a crisis doesn't mean you should overprice the dudes. They're costly at a penny a dozen.

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Sorry for the typo but i still hate them both