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28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them I was listening to a podcast once, and the host articulated something profound in a very well-stated way. He said (I paraphrase):

"I will never argue with a flat-earther, or an anti-vaxxer, or any of those people. The reason is because that these people have made that into _their whole identity_, and they are prepared to address any possible argument I could come up with. And because I care about facts and truth and they do not, my only possible response would be '...uh, I'll have to look into that, I don't know off the top of my head'. It doesn't matter that their response is incorrect or based on faulty research or has been rejected by the scientific community or whatever; by the time I discover that, they will be long gone and talking about how they won another debate."

This is it in a nutshell. If you argue about an issue with someone who has made _that one issue_ into the core of their persona, you will lose unless you are someone who has made arguing against that issue also into the core of your persona.

Of course I know that Andrew Wakefield is a liar and a scammer and of course I know that Apollo astronauts placed retroreflectors on the Moon which can be used to prove that they went there and that their photos of the spherical Earth are real, because I've done enough research to convince myself. But have I done enough research to convince someone who refuses to be convinced? And someone who has also done that research and come up with plausible-sounding nonsense to counter each of these arguments? Why would I waste my life doing this?

kiwi_rozzers , Andrea Piacquadio Report

Final score:

226points

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Joy 1 year ago

Exactly. Arguing with someone like that hurts the mind and nervous system. A useful response to 'the earth is flat' type views is to say Ah I see or simply OK. Smile and leave it at that. Let them then debate with the empty air.

63points

Monday 1 year ago

But what about the fun response of "Oh no, you believe that conspiracy? I did too for a while but then I realized it was all a scam. The Earth is actually a triangle, that's why the illuminati chose the triangle as their symbol!".

20points

Steve 1 year ago

Start asking them questions in a respectful tone but. Question everything they say but be very respectful to the point of "They are your 5th grade teacher" respectful. We'll use the mirrors as an example. Don't even mention that stuff like that. Just ask questions. That really gets them going becuase they don't have the answers.

3points

Steve 1 year ago

Instead, convince them the only way their belief could be true is if gummy lizards from the planet fartsalot replaced the world's broccoli with aliens that LOOK like broccoli

2points

Scott J 1 year ago

It's why I don't engage with trump supporters anymore. I'm utterly shocked so many people can be taken in my such an obvious conman.

17points

Saint Tim the Godless 1 year ago

It's not my job to make you smarter or make you right. But it is my job to contain your stupidity so it doesn't harm anyone else.

16points

- 1 year ago

Someone once told me that if Anne Coulter was doing a lecture, he'd attend for the Q&A and argue back with her. "It's not going to change her, but I might change a few minds in the audience."

11points

Sonja 1 year ago (edited)

Reason why it's useless to debate with a flat earther: it is well known that the earth is round since ancient history and there are lots of real life experiments that you can do yourself at home or at least near any coast that showed earth was round loooong before Galileo Galilei even though about fighting the church on that. But flat earthers are people who will smugly use those very methods to prove that earth is flat, see that it indeed isn't, and start rants how government sends radio signals to impact experiments done with sticks and a piece of string. Still insisting they're right. You really can't argue with people who won't believe their own eyes

15points

Shyla Bouche 1 year ago

I don't really understand the science behind the moon landings. Why do I know they're real? Apollo 13. Congress was cutting the funds, so NASA wouldn't have faked a failure to get funds cut sooner and tighter. Everybody who had anything to contribute worked around the clock to get Lovell, Hayes, and Swigert safely home. Round the clock means hellish amounts of overtime. In the middle of the cold war, after Russia had officially lost the space race, they guaranteed diplomatic immunity and safe passage, should the astronauts have to land in Russian waters. When the astronauts were rescued, they were paraded down the streets and shown off. Hayes, who had become ill, wasn't present. If it had been fake, NASA would have shown off all three.

14points

Michael Largey 1 year ago

"You can't reason someone out of a belief that they didn't get reasoned into."

8points

emma hunton 1 year ago

My granny always said dont put your wit to a fool. And my other favourite was empty vessels make the most noise.

8points

Kathryn Baylis 1 year ago (edited)

Because the idiots’ research is Googling blogs that only confirm their own biases, not finding cold, hard, potentially opinion-changing facts from scholarly, peer-reviewed sources like smart people do. The idiots are the ones who dig in and won’t budge from their “facts”. Smart people know facts, but are willing to admit they’re wrong when they’re genuinely proven wrong, and are also willing to do more research and change their opinions if the research upholds the opposite of their (now former) opinions.

7points

Crazy Meerkat Lady 1 year ago

Where can I read facts about the moon landing? And I don't just mean Google, because that will take ages and I will procrastinate, I need a specific site or blog, if you know of one. I always tell people I don't have an opinion on it because I don't have enough information (which is true because I haven't ever made an effort to read enough about it)

2points

Julie Snelling 1 year ago

So what is the reasoning behind people believing that the earth is flat I really don't understand. What are they getting out of it?

7points

Elio 1 year ago

It makes them feel special that they are the only ones to know about a vast government conspiracy that exists because of reasons. (Still fail to see how the government would benefit in any way about lying about the world being flat.) Sometimes it's a religious thing too.

7points

DJR 1 year ago

It's based on a hyper-literal reading of the Bible.

3points

Vix Spiderthrust 1 year ago

It makes them feel special. Like being in a top secret cool club with the coolest kids and no girls because girls smell.

3points

Roland Nijveld 1 year ago

That's what makes it a s**t conspiracy. A good conspiracy always is plausible and has a motive. Both aren't the case here

1point

UKGrandad 1 year ago

This reminds me of why America baffles me. It s the wealthiest nation on Earth and yet a not-insignificant proportion of its population believes that the moon landings were fake but professional wrestling isn't.

6points

ninjaTrashPandaBoom 1 year ago

To be fair, the moon landing conspiracy nuts and pro wrestling is real people are the same group of people /s...or is it?

3points

Arcana 1 year ago

Also works on evangelical morons who absolutely HAVE to convert EVERYONE.

6points

Aidan Pite 1 year ago (edited)

One time a person started debating whether or not the earth was round, and I basically just went 'you know what? Fine. Okay. You do you. I literally do not care if you actually believe this or are just playing some game of Devil's Advocate. I just do not have the energy to debate this.' Pretty much the exact same response I had to a couple of moronic hippies that proudly told me that they were looking forward to milking their pet goat... and after getting off an 8-hour fast food shift dealing with your standard everyday morons I simply did not have the energy to educate them about the type of fluid they could expect to receive from their goat's testicles.

6points

ninjaTrashPandaBoom 1 year ago

Was arguing with a tried and true idiot recently. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Then an epiphany, who's the real idiot? Him (definitely) or me (maybe) for arguing with probably one of the dumbest beasts on the planet. Just turned around and left mid sentence as there was no point in continuing.

3points

LizzieBoredom 1 year ago

"Facts are like unicorns. They're difficult to prove, and they make you horny" LizzieBoredom

6points

Nikole 1 year ago

This is how I feel about Trumpers and various other hardcore Republicans

5points

Wysteria_Rose 1 year ago

It is a personal boundary of mine: I will not hold any discussion with someone who is not willing to listen and possibly gain a new perspective on the matter. If you're only listening to wait for your turn to talk, then I have nothing to say to you.

4points

DM 1 year ago

When someone really believes injecting bleach in your veins kills viruses, there is just not enough brain cells to argue with. Walk away lol.

3points

DM 1 year ago

Learn this as young as possible because after our last election I hurt my mind trying to speak to the other side of a political spectrum where people believe in allllllll sorts of very weird stuff and we’re so very certain. I eventually learned to just ignore and not give anything I learned or know. Let them speak of non-sense and things that are proven false or conspiracies. I just gave up and then realized, I should have never even tried lol. Lesson learned, you can’t win an argument if the person has been so brainwashed.

3points

Niall Mac Iomera 1 year ago

You can't use reason to unconvince a person of an argument they didn't use reason to get to in the first place.

3points

Solidhog 1 year ago

The other problem is that these type of people always have the ultimate answer they turn to when they feel like they are losing an argument. "I read it on social media and at least 50 people liked it. So it must be true."

3points

Dani M 1 year ago

This is one of the healthiest and well written posts I've ever seen. Love everything about it.

3points

Old Roadie 1 year ago

If flat earth theorists had a simple course in navigation, an entirely new world would open up to them.

3points

Suzy Creamcheese 1 year ago

I'll allow that my certain knowledge that the Earth is not flat may be coloring my judgment, but I've actually never heard any plausible-sounding arguments from a flat-Earther. Not that it matters, since what's true or false has never been decided by debate. That requires actual evidence. All debate decides is who's the more convincing bullshítter - and even that's debatable. ;-)

3points

Tim Nicebutdim 1 year ago

My argument would be something along the lines of "jog on nutjob"

3points

PolymathNecromancer 1 year ago

WHY IS THIS NOT AT #1

3points

DBear 1 year ago

I made a comment once concerning the weather and a climate change vigilante started ranting. I asked him what the difference was between climate change and weather. He ranted some more but basically he boiled it down to warmer temperatures than average was climate change. So I asked him what colder temperatures than average was. He said that was just weather. I shook my head and walked away.

3points

Featherking 1 year ago

Not an actual climate change vigilante, then, just someone who misunderstood the concept and got weird on the subject.

1point

Emperor Kitten 1 year ago

Also, arguing with these people (flat earthers and antivaxers especially) only validated their point. They want a debate - opinion vs opinion. When what they have is facts vs opinions. Engaging makes their opinion feel like fact.

2points

Wilf 1 year ago

Sadly this effect was proved in the UK during the Brexit referendum. Fact based arguments completely failed to overcome the totally spurious beliefs of those who voted for Brexit. Research has shown that almost nobody changed their view during the campaign, and even now- 7 years and an economic crisis later- very few who voted for Brexit admit it was a mistake. The most common view held by Brexit voters in 2023 is that it was a good idea that was nadly executed and undermined by a shady remain elite establishment. It's the political equivalent of a dad getting lost in the car, but refusing to acknowledge the fact and refusing to ask a stranger for directions.

2points

Sara Wilson 1 year ago

U can't argue with stupidity. They will make up facts if needed, just to justify their point

2points

Coyote Osborne 1 year ago

I have watched my father (a commercial pilot, as well as a veteran military pilot) struggle to deal with people who will try to convince him that the earth is flat. He's been around the whole earth multiple times. He's surrounded by friends and colleagues for whom this is an _everyday_ occurrence, and fact of their lives. And yet still some person, who knows he is a pilot, will try to convince him to his face that he's basically stupid and hallucinating. My father is an incredibly genial fellow. I can count the things that actually make him mad on my fingers. Flat-earth beliefs are one of those fingers. A lot of the folks that believe conspiracy theories and similarly extreme beliefs think they have a mission of revealing the truth. But what they really have is a mission to convince as many people as possible that what they've already decided to believe in is true. It's a crusade, and as the OP points out, to them, it's their very identity, their very sense of self they are defending.

2points

Riley Quinn 1 year ago

Life's short; choose your battles. That's really what it boils down to. Even IF you could sway them on an issue, their narrowly-focused, conspiracy-prone minds would find another face-palm issue. Go pet a dog instead.

2points

gotham-panda 1 year ago

I have found the best response to these people is that when they say this garbage, stare at them blankly for a full beat, then burst out laughing as heartily and loudly as you can, and just walk away. It makes them FURIOUS and you don't have to deal with them because you walked away. Bonus points? Anyone overhearing the exchange now sees THEM as the idiot.

2points

Scott Rackley 1 year ago

It's the same as playing chess with pigeons, with the same result

2points

Bernd Herbert 1 year ago

Why I don't argue with those conspiracy nuts? Because they did not base their point on scientific facts. And I only have those as my arguments. You can't convince someone with science who completely rejects science itself.

2points

Cassidy Moore 1 year ago

Exactly, at some point you realize that they are not going to change their minds so its best to just let them believe what they want.

2points

David Leick 1 year ago

This. Such a waste of time, energy and sanity to try to convince such people of anything really. You're not going to convince them any more than they will you.

2points

Marvin HeartofGold 1 year ago

I stopped trying to convince my dad global warming is real when he said in all seriousness "if global warming is real why is it colder this winter?" Explaining how global warming has thrown off all weather patterns, not just summer weather patterns, just went in one ear and out the other.

1point

Catherine Spencer-Mills 1 year ago

Creationists I have spent a great amount of time studying so I can refute. Though, you never get ahead. Some of their new arguments against radiometric dating are just insane. Also, Donald Trump is a great business man -- nope.

1point

barbara ray 1 year ago

The fact that none of the responses use the anti vaxxer as an example of a pointless argument kinda speaks for them...and their 'research'

1point

Leah Brown 1 year ago

I usually go with, "I'm sorry you feel that way." then turn and walk away.

1point

Coyote Osborne 1 year ago

This is going into my notes.

1point

Rosie 1 year ago

I don't debate angry morons. However, it's fun to deal w/"friendly" ones (meaning those not simply looking to antagonize). Ask them questions. The Earth is flat? Really? How about other planets? The sun? Are they just flat, like a pizza? Or just not a round ball? How about their orbits? Are they square? Do they move at all? Does the flat Earth move around the sun (or the moon around the Earth)? You can keep going for a while just asking for "real" info, since all we have been taught is BS. I've only done that a couple of times, but the response has been "I'll look into that too!" or "You should look it up!" to which of course I sound disappointed they don't know already & can't educate me. Hope springs eternal, so perhaps it infiltrates some doubt.

1point

Darius Strolia 1 year ago

Fools argue with fools. The wise stay quiet whilst others admit their foolishness freely.

1point

Nikole 1 year ago (edited)

Silence is complacency at best and complicity at worst.

4points

Darius Strolia 1 year ago

I apologize. i must heed the advice. I admit my foolishness. I was thinking one thing but seem to have communicated something else. what i wanted to say is on a smaller scale. my memory mangled the proverb(s) -It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.- -the fool is always talking. Instead of pondering how he should answer, his mouth pours forth. He answers before he listens. He gets involved in arguments not his own. If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.- etc what i meant to infer was not to meet those evil, proud of their stupidity, with silence. .. that can never be wise. one can share peace through disciplines of wise love, gratitude , organized curiosity, etc. when they go low, we go high. meet them with ideas they can make their own. with honey. i hope i didn't cause any qualm or consternation with my sloppy communication. i agree with you.

1point

Danesy 1 year ago

You can’t teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig

0points

Cydney Golden 1 year ago

Or as my mom always said, Don't argue with a crazy person.

0points

D Bearman 1 year ago

The problem with arguing with a stupid person is that they also think they’re arguing with a stupid person.

0points

Chris Sprucefield 1 year ago

Yet, you can have some fun with these guys, as it is so easy to mock them with their own arguments, and see them squirm when you put some really hard questions to them that is completely outside their knowledge, but core to what they are claiming.

0points

Celtic Pirate Queen 1 year ago

A friend I thought I knew really well became a Trump supporter, basically proving we no longer shared the same values. She went so far as to claim she was "Pro-Life". Oh, really? Was that before or after I took you to the clinic for your SECOND abortion? This went way beyond the "agree to disagree" mantra & the friendship was pretty much over.

0points

Mandy Delaforce (PC Girl) 1 year ago

I use the same method with religious people. I don't bother arguing about their invisible friend.

0points

Miranda Veracruz de la Joya Cardenal 1 year ago

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0points

DBear 1 year ago

NEVER get into a discussion about anything with a vegan,

-1point

Biscuitbot 1 year ago

I was just about to comment the opposite - some people make mocking vegans and eating meat their entire personality, and showing them anything evidence based is completely pointless!

2points

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Not my story but once my friend (friend A) was having a friendly (turned sour) debate with another friend (friend B) about how sometimes people just don’t have a choice, in the context of, they can’t just choose to live a frivolous life because of their family background etc.

Friend A proceeds to say, “what about starving children born in Africa, it’s not like they had a choice.” To which Friend B answered....”WHO ASKED THEM TO BE BORN IN AFRICA? JUST DON’T BE BORN THERE.”

That’s when we knew.... :—)

ulaef , Roberto Nickson Report

Final score:

206points

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Nay Wilson 1 year ago

I wasn’t aware people had the choice of where they’re born. Huh. Well, you learn something new every day(!)

17points

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them I’m showing my age here but I used to work for an estate agency, and we had sales offices set up at the site of large new housing developments. Our primary method of communication was fax.

One of the sales associates telephoned our office to say that the fax machine had run out of paper. No problem, I said, one of the guys is coming your way later for a house tour, I’ll give him a box of paper to give to you.

We then had an almost 20 minute long argument when they kept insisting “NO, YOU JUST SEND ME A BLANK FAX BECAUSE I NEED THE PAPER, IT WILL JUST COME OUT OF MY FAX MACHINE.”

It was like trying to nail jelly to a tree. Difficult, irritating, and it achieved nothing :)

BettieKat , Porapak Apichodilok Report

Final score:

202points

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Depressed Owl 1 year ago

I'm going to steal that.

65points

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them My good buddy wrote his capstone thesis on something about Islam. The dude spoke Arabic, is smart as hell, a history nut, and consumes books like they are skittles.

Anyway, he got into a long debate on Reddit with someone. He started showing sources, teaching the guy, etc. Anyway, he was about 500 words into a mega retort when he decided to actually look up the dude’s posting history. Turns out that dude was a "Drink Your Own Urine" evangelist.

I feel like that is Reddit in a nutshell.

bappypawedotter , Toa Heftiba Report

Final score:

180points

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LizzieBoredom 1 year ago

"Drink Your Own Urine" evangelist: A Peeacher.

257points

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them I grew up Jewish in Oklahoma. I ran into this a lot.

Had a classmate in middle school try to convince me that Christianity predates Judaism.

I told him, "But Jesus was Jewish."

His response: "Exactly!"

No irony. Totally genuine. Conversation over.

Ninjewdi , Pixabay Report

Final score:

180points

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LizzieBoredom 1 year ago

As everyone in Alabama knows, Jesus was a blond-haired, blue-eyed, Baptist who wandered around Israel 2000 years ago, right after the Earth was created.

152points

originalchaosinabox , Gavin Allanwood Report

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Once worked with a guy who, by his own admission, got his rocks off by picking fights. He'd start an argument over the smallest thing. If you said it was white, he'd say it was black, just to try to start something.

The one that always stood out for me was the weather app competition. One day he asked me what temperature it was, so I read it off my weather app. He got all offended, because his weather app said it was a couple degrees warmer.

So he decides we're going to have a weather app competition. He was going to chart what our apps said the temperature was, and at the end of the week, whichever one was closest to that day's high would be the winner. And the loser would have to start using the winner's app.

To which I said, "What is your f*****g problem?"

So, yeah. For the first few days, he'd make a big performance about marching into my office, recording the temperature off my app, jotting down some notes, and walking off.

This started on a Monday. He gave up after Wednesday. Either because I was winning, or he was disappointed because, despite his best efforts, I just did not give a f**k about weather apps. Or maybe the boss told him to stop because I filed a complaint that this was bordering on harassment.

Final score:

138points

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LizzieBoredom 1 year ago

He was cloudy with a chance of as**ole.

113points

themightypianocat , Roberto Nickson Report

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them I used to argue a lot with my sister when we were kids. She would do this thing where she would say something, and then I would reference back to it literally a minute or two later to prove a point and she would say “I never said that” or “that’s not what I said”. Absolutely impossible to argue with someone who will just deny having said things that could hurt their argument.

Also, trying to change the course of an argument if they feel like they are “losing”. A coworker once called me an idiot for doing something “incorrectly” when I was actually doing it the right way. When I politely explained to them that the way they suggested doing the task didn’t actually work, they started asking “why are you getting so angry?? I was just trying to help” etc. So now we’re arguing about whether I’m angry or not instead of the right way to complete the task.

Final score:

132points

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Joy 1 year ago

I work with two morons who are so ignorant I wondered if I was the moron. Made me realise the term isn't an insult but an actual condition.

60points

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Not saying my mother is an idiot but boy does she lean hard on some stupid beliefs.

For example: I bring up that European countries have universal healthcare (Sweden is a good example) and she immediately fires up the *"but they're taxed to death to pay for it"* argument. In my research, a US resident gets taxed about 12% more (42% on income) than a Swedish resident (30% on income).

Arch27 , Efrem Efre Report

Final score:

130points

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Abigail Snyder 1 year ago

My grandmother swears that praline pecans grow on trees. Yes, pecans grow on trees, but she believes they grow on the tree candied. Like, they come off the tree candied. She won't listen to any of us when we try and tell her otherwise, so we just gave up.

60points

#10

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them When I tell people to just reboot your computer and it will fix all their problems and yet they wont because they said if you wait long enough it will shut down, when in reality it only goes to sleep. Then when I tell them they have to completely shut it down they look at me like I'm an idiot and say they did. I tell them it seems like it but it only went to sleep. They argue back.

niallaa , SHVETS production Report

Final score:

121points

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Tucker Cahooter 1 year ago

No wonder Roy and Moss just had their instructions on a prerecorded tape so they wouldn't have to argue with the callers

66points

#11

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them My mom complaining how my generation wouldn’t know how to do anything if it wasn’t posted on the internet. I simply responded, “Well, what else is that generation supposed to do when the generation that raised them didn’t teach them how to do anything?”

Keep in mind this while I’m moving files from her old Windows 8 laptop to her new windows 10 for her via flash drive. She can’t figure it out because “windows 10 is totally different!!” Obviously, it’s not.

hevnztrash , fauxels Report

Final score:

118points

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Liz Clarke 1 year ago

Older generations wouldn't have known anything if it wasn't printed in a book. It the same concept, just a different format and quicker to access.

82points

#12

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Working retail. Especially when I worked in the tech shop od a computer store. Trying to convince someone their $500 laptop is never going to be a gaming system no matter how many of the very few replaceable parts we throw at it can be exhausting...

MOS95B , Czapp Árpád Report

Final score:

104points

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FakeOptimist 1 year ago

What do you mean, even if I put a turbo on my Pinto I can't dragrace it ??

43points

Come_The_Hod_King , freestocks.org Report

#13

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Brexit is a classic example of this. It was always an extremely stupid idea and they managed to beat enough of the population down to make it reality.

Final score:

104points

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Joy 1 year ago

Brit here and yup Brexit was always going to be a colossal phuckup. The UK is now banking on a withered boring and peculiar monarchy to revitalise its fortunes. But debating with a Brexiter is futile because... 'foreigners and migrants'

82points

yaiyogsothoth , RDNE Stock project Report

#14

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them When I was a child a teacher argued with me about how my name is pronounced. Some sports guy had a first name that was spelled the same as my surname, and I guess that was the only acceptable pronunciation regardless of what little ten year old me tried to tell her.

Final score:

102points

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Abigail Snyder 1 year ago

A-a-ron!?

106points

#15

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them My brother in law loves to have "debates" where he just wants to hear himself talk to make himself feel smarter. His arguments include "I haven't heard of that before, so it must not be true" and pulling argument points from YouTube videos on the topic because he "doesn't read, why would I when I can get the info faster from a video?"

He sprays paint as his career and has never been to college but took calculus in high school and that is his proof he is smarter than everyone else. When it is brought up all he says is "oh yeah, I remember calculus, it is as easy." What is it about? "You know... Calculus. Easy stuff."

I stopped engaging him on his debates when he just claimed everything was a government job and everything was "fake news, didn't see it on YouTube."

dinoaids , Timur Weber Report

Final score:

88points

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OnlyMe 1 year ago

Yeah, just don't argue with stupid people. Waste of energy.

45points

#16

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them was arguing with this dude about something math-related. he didn’t know how to read a study which involved statistics. claimed he was in multiple AP math classes. tried saying that i “probably don’t even know basic integration”. gave me a common integration problem. he wrote it but forgot the minus sign, making it unsolvable. i pointed it out and he edited the comment to make it correct. told him that some people can see when you edit comments. he claimed that he just capitalized a letter. on and on and on…

SaturdayNightCity , Monstera Report

Final score:

81points

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LizzieBoredom 1 year ago (edited)

Never drink from a glass of water containing 8 ice cubes. It's too cubed.

78points

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#17

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them A driver fell asleep at the wheel for a brief moment. The passenger noticed the car drift into the oncoming lane and exclaimed ‘Jesus Christ’ in fear. The driver woke up and turned the car back to their lane. It was impossible to have the passenger (and their whole family) admit this was not evidence that Jesus himself saved them. I was exhausted by the end of that conversation.

nytropy , Oleksandr Pidvalnyi Report

Final score:

75points

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Joy 1 year ago

I wouldn't have argued the point. Lives were saved and no harm done.

46points

#18

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them So many times.

So, I'm on my condo board, again. Sigh. Because being on the board means a lot of dealing with idiots. The worst thing is, they aren't normally stupid people, most of them, until they focus on some minor issue.

Anyway - sensor for the lights in our laundry room failed. We replaced it. I get a knock on my door from an owner, who I'll call Bonnie,because f**k Bonnie.

Anyway, she's upset because the sensor still isn't working properly. Now, the issue is the lights won't turn off.

"I stood in there for 15 minutes, and they didn't turn off! It's wastes electricity!"

"Bonnie, the sensor keeps the lights on as long as somebody is in the room. And you were in the room. So, the lights couldn't turn off. "

that's teh condensed version - so, after about ten minutes of her not grasping that being in the room means the light sensor won't turn them off...

Well, the laundry room is in sight of my condo. So, when we hit the ten minute mark, and she's not in the room but instead, in my face... the lights go off. And I point that out.

"I thought you said you would be a good president!"

thank god she's now so "scared" of me she wouldn't say s**t with a mouth full.

Squigglepig52 , Brett Sayles Report

Final score:

72points

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tabithapaquette98 1 year ago

Some people are just really stupid. I'm no Einstein, but duh!

20points

Woman Put A Water Fountain With A Camera In Her Yard, Here Are 24 Photos Of Regular Visitors (New Pics)

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#19

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Had an employee sign a NDA about an upcoming art installation that had investors. He told everyone. He argued with me the NDA only meant he couldn’t disclose anything with the people in the company.

BosskHogg , Scott Graham Report

Final score:

66points

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Cara 1 year ago

Signed but didn’t read the NDA then?

51points

#20

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Ok - this'll get buried, but it was and still is hilarious to me.

Waayyyy back in the day I was a bill collector for travel trailers and mobile homes. This woman had promised to mail her check for the payment, and lo and behold it doesn't appear.

So I call her, and reference back to our prior conversation I say "You promised you'd mail this to me, and it never arrived." this wasn't particularly contentious. It more along the lines of "I thought we had an agreement and now I'm dissapointed."

So this woman, who was probably 30, really dumb and kinda country says to me "I did mail it. But the post office figured out that I didn't have enough money and sent it back to me so it wouldn't bounce."

My sarcastic reply: "I don't understand how that could happen."
She responds, completely sincere "I don't understand it either."

Literally wordless after that one

lapsangsouchogn , Liza Summer Report

Final score:

64points

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geezeronthehill 1 year ago

Returned for no postage?

24points

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#21

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Trying to get an old person to understand new technology when they have already decided against using it.

My grandmother refused to use the stacking washer/dryer in her retirement apartment because it was "too complicated." Same buttons as the one at her previous home, just in a slightly different place.

AlanMercer , Andrea Piacquadio Report

Final score:

60points

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Ines Olabarria-Smith 1 year ago

Some “old people”. My aunt (85 at the moment) edits videos like a pro. I can’t find the time to learn.

73points

#22

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Someone posted an article that provided direct evidence against what he was claiming. Pointed it out and he said "I didn't know it was in that article or I wouldn't of used that one"

etceturon , Vlada Karpovich Report

Final score:

60points

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Lemme get the lemons 1 year ago (edited)

Yikes, doesn't even know the difference between "have" and "of"

53points

MehhicoPerth , Nataliya Vaitkevich Report

#23

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them I thought I had a no-lose argument going up against someone who believes in homeopathy.... I left the discussion feeling like I lost somehow :(

Edit: Appreciate all the comments. Some very funny replies! Just a quick clarification, I was specifically referring to homeopathic dilutions as far as the argument/discussion went.

I "felt" like I lost because I was dumbfounded by their argument and realised quickly that it was a belief system that I was up against and didnt want to waste either of our time (the person being a naturopath that my wife used to go to). They had obviously had this argument many times and had various convoluted responses to all your standard points. Essentially, they had more experience in this argument than me.

Thankfully, that interaction resulted in my kids no longer having to take so much "medicine" which was my main issue because I could see that it was eroding their confidence. Sure, its just water so it cant do any harm right? Wrong, it meant every time they saw the naturopath they would come home with a whole new set of ailments and the eventual thinking of "what is wrong with me??". There was never anything wrong with them.

Final score:

57points

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CP 1 year ago

Homeopathy had been a thorn in my side for years. My now ex wife used to take medical advice for how to treat our kids from her homeopathic sister. They would never let me get to the part where I explain homeopathy. Not that I am sure it would have helped my SIL, but possibly my now ex wife. It should be illegal to sell homeopathic snake oil next to real medicines.

20points

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#24

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Even though they're wrong they'll still carry on the argument and then when you've convinced them they'll say yeah that's what I said trying to make you look the fool.
Had plenty of arguments like that.

XenomorphXx121 , Alena Darmel Report

Final score:

57points

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Highball 1 year ago

You have to turn arguments into discussions, it's not who wins or loses but who understands.

27points

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#25

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them People who tell me they "feel like" something is or isn't illegal, when I know they're wrong but insist they know what they're talking about. For the record, I'm not a lawyer yet, but I'm about to start my final year of law school, AND my undergrad is in Legal Studies. In one particular instance, I took a very specialized course that taught drone law. The person I was this with kept telling me I was wrong because they "felt like...."

Final score:

55points

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Kathryn Baylis 1 year ago

There are a lot of perfectly legal things that just somehow feel wrong, although not to everyone. Regardless, they’re still legal, and will continue to be legal until the law changes. That’s just the way it is.

32points

#26

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them I had a coworker for a few years. I tried and tried to give him advice on doing a job that I had been doing for years. He repeatedly told me he didn't appreciate my advice, that he had won awards in his past job and to stay in my lane. Finally we did a project together and he admitted that I really did know what I was talking about and he actually thanked me.

But he continued to gaslight people and be a narcissist

Bigbird_Elephant , Canva Studio Report

Final score:

52points

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That Goth Demon (zey/zem) 1 year ago

You'd think he'd learn something

12points

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#27

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them I work at a club where the bouncer gives you a card when you enter. The card has multiple lines with squares on it, each one being a different drink (vodka, gin, tequila, etc) and the barmen just make an X on the drinks you order. All mixers are free except Redbull. At the top of the card there's a line that reads "Redbull mix". It's also the cheapest thing on the card.

I've had a customer order a "Redbull mix" and literally argue with me for about 10 minutes demanding that I serve it while I calmly explained to them that line is only a mixer and they actually have to order something else. They eventually asked for a manager that just told me to mark it and serve them a shot of Redbull. The look on the customer was priceless. They were as pleased they "won" the argument as they were disappointed paying 2,50€ for a sip of Redbull.

SaintSirius88 , Jesper Brouwers Report

Final score:

42points

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Sonja 1 year ago

I really don't understand what's happening here.

33points

#28

28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them Anytime I've tried to explain marginal tax rates to an employee.

Mo-Cance , Nataliya Vaitkevich Report

Final score:

40points

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Highball 1 year ago (edited)

Taxes are a very very complex phenomenon, even experts can disagree on how to approach it. You are lucky to understand and you have to work at ways to make others understand, or at least accept.

10points

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Tams21 1 year ago

These posts are a perfect explanation as to how the likes of Trump and Boris Johnson were elected. My head hurts.

12points

Tams21 1 year ago

@Sherry I don't mind it if people have a different opinion to what I write but I very much do mind when people tell me that I shouldn't write something. I'll continue to "drag political figures into the mix and write anything else I feel is relevant to a post.

5points

barbara ray 1 year ago

Try Reddit- very liberal and one sided

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Sherry Marie Golden 1 year ago (edited)

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Lana Lana Banana 1 year ago (edited)

Dude in an elevator sees my tat that's written in Armenian and asks me what language it is. I tell him. He replies, sounding genuinely stoked: "Oh you're Armenian?? That's cool! I'm Turkish! We're neighbors!" For those of you who don't know...the two countries are indeed neighbors, but the Turks tried to commit genocide on the Armenians in 1915 and stole a ton of the land. Not very neighborly if you ask me.... I don't have anything against modern day Turkish people, but...like...that's like a German telling a Jew "You're Jewish? How cool! I'm German!" There's just certain things people shouldn't say...lol

5points

Roland Nijveld 1 year ago (edited)

I honestly don't see the problem. Like a German can't say that to me (Dutch) because of WWII. Still a fact he's my neighbour

0points

Seedy Vine 1 year ago

“Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to sh!t on the board and strut around like it won anyway.” ― Shannon L. Alder

4points

Darius Strolia 1 year ago

My dad used to tell me that bad drivers were in a hurry to meet their accident. So just give them the way on. I just feel there's immense road foolishness. Let it go.

3points

CatLady 1 year ago

I hate it when people keep moving the goalposts in an argument and then try gaslight me that they're not and I just didn't understand what they were saying. Um, I've taken multiple advanced classes in rhetoric. I understand language extremely well. And in an online argument, there are screenshots so gaslighting is useless.

3points

Sally Close 1 year ago

My rule is to never do battle with an unarmed opponent!!!!

3points

SheHulk 1 year ago

I had a roommate in uni who studied literature, and I studied microbiology. I once said that I thought that science students had better general knowledge than humanists because they were more exposed to culture, read fiction and so on. I was kinda trying to provoke her, but she then replied that science (every field) did not count as general knowledge! I was stunned and did not try to argue with her, realising it was pointless. We did not remain friends. I still am amazed by the number of people who think that science is trivial and boring.

2points

The Doom Song 1 year ago

Had a customer at the pub I used to work at who we nicknamed "Encyclopaedia" I was serving him one day and we got into an argument about how you can get done for DUI on a bicycle. He was adamant you couldn't and I literally had another customer going "I've been done for DUI on my bike". I got the whole bar involved, including my managers, and he ended up storming out thinking he was right. It was so much fun

1point

Roland Nijveld 1 year ago

Here you can get fined for being drunk in public. Won't happen though until you're a nuisance

0points

Kevin Hickey 1 year ago

Had an argument with someone that "gasoline would cost more if we (the U.S.) changed over to the metric system, because 4 litres cost more than a gallon". Sadly, if we ever do switch to the metric system, they will probably raise the price of gasoline to pay for the transition and then he'll claim that he was right.

1point

Roland Nijveld 1 year ago

Maybe that's what he meant but you just didn't understand it?

0points

two-sided llama 1 year ago

my friend group is complaining abotu something veery stupid and i don't know if im the wrong one here. two of the friends in my friend group like to do backflips of swings at max height ,but one of my teachers saw that and gave them a talk and banned them from doing that. i always felt like it was way too dangerous so i didn't care that she banned them. the next day these two friends are very mad at one of my teachers. they start comparing BACKFLIPS of F*****G SWINGS at MAX HEIGHT to cartwheels and other gymnastic things another group of girls are doing. they are sayign things like " we doing backflips ( of f*****g swings) in a safe manner ( not safe at all) and they are doing f*****g cartwheels and they are banning us such a sexist school ( not)" " they can fall on their head and paralysed too ,but they are getting mad at us" "we wouldn't be doing backflips of swings if we didnt knwo how to land ( my mind: dude you cna still get hurt badly by something even if you a professional)

0points

two-sided llama 1 year ago

comment countinued: i try to say their arguments are insanely stupid ,but they are like " you don't have to disagree with everything i said" ( coming from the guy who once said bill gates can give everyone a billion dollars and still be a billionaire) " STOP F*****G DISAGREEING". am i right here. if i am, am i good friend for disagreeing. should i ignore them

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Tams21 1 year ago

These posts are a perfect explanation as to how the likes of Trump and Boris Johnson were elected. My head hurts.

12points

Tams21 1 year ago

5points

barbara ray 1 year ago

Try Reddit- very liberal and one sided

0points

Sherry Marie Golden 1 year ago (edited)

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5points

Roland Nijveld 1 year ago (edited)

I honestly don't see the problem. Like a German can't say that to me (Dutch) because of WWII. Still a fact he's my neighbour

0points

Seedy Vine 1 year ago

“Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to sh!t on the board and strut around like it won anyway.” ― Shannon L. Alder

4points

Darius Strolia 1 year ago

My dad used to tell me that bad drivers were in a hurry to meet their accident. So just give them the way on. I just feel there's immense road foolishness. Let it go.

3points

CatLady 1 year ago

3points

Sally Close 1 year ago

My rule is to never do battle with an unarmed opponent!!!!

3points

SheHulk 1 year ago

2points

The Doom Song 1 year ago

1point

Roland Nijveld 1 year ago

Here you can get fined for being drunk in public. Won't happen though until you're a nuisance

0points

Kevin Hickey 1 year ago

1point

Roland Nijveld 1 year ago

Maybe that's what he meant but you just didn't understand it?

0points

two-sided llama 1 year ago

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two-sided llama 1 year ago

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