Woman Complains About Neighbor Asking To Use Her Shower, Internet Isn’t Sympathetic
Many years ago, the great Swiss philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau introduced the concept of the so-called “social contract.” According to this concept, everything created by people in the immaterial realm is simply the product of an agreement between people. We simply agree to consider something appropriate and reasonable, and something, on the contrary, 100% outrageous.
For example, we are sure that helping others in trouble (okay, not in trouble, but just facing some problems) is a must. But what if deep down we just don’t want to provide this help? Well, I guess the user NavyOrca, the author of today’s story, didn’t even suspect she was facing a philosophical problem of such magnitude when her neighbor approached her with a request to use her shower…
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The author of the post has a neighbor who recently asked to use her shower since her own was broken
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This neighbor wasn’t the author’s close friend, but rather a nice acquaintance, and nothing more
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The main problem was that the author had planned to stay home most of the upcoming week after working hard, and didn’t want anyone else there
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So the woman was of two minds on how to act and decided to seek advice online
Actually, it’s all very simple. The Original Poster (OP) has a neighbor who recently approached her with a request to let her occasionally drop by to use her shower. The thing is, her own shower is, alas, broken, and the repair guys won’t come and fix anything until next week.
Our heroine understood perfectly well what it meant for someone to not be able to take a shower. She knew that her neighbor was a nice and pleasant person to talk to, and they had occasionally talked while walking their dogs. She also knew that the neighbor had moved to the area for work and that there were no relatives or friends around to help her. She knew all this—but in her heart, she still didn’t want to do this favor.
The author had a simply insane week at work with a heavy workload, and she would spend most of the following week off of work—so she dreamed of just sitting at home alone, relaxing, and doing nothing. That is, what is often one of the greatest joys for any person. And the neighbor, coming in from time to time to take a shower, didn’t fit into this picture at all…
But the idea of the social contract is like gravity. We may not have the slightest clue how it all works, but it still works and affects us. And now the original poster is experiencing the most severe pangs of conscience at the mere thought of refusing to help someone—albeit a little-known, but obviously good, person—in a difficult moment. And the woman decided to take it online in search of support.
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“Well, it’s a really difficult choice – on the other hand, we should not forget that for many modern people it is difficult even to turn to others with such a completely harmless, after all, request. And even to familiar people,” says Irina Matveeva, a psychologist and certified NLP specialist, with whom Bored Panda got in touch for a comment on the situation.
“I can perfectly understand the whole range of emotions that is now engulfing this woman, who just wants to relax after a stressful work week, but on the other hand, we all live in society. And such a refusal, even if it is clothed in a very polite form, will almost inevitably lead to poor relations between them.”
“So here you just need to think through the two options and decide for yourself – what is more important, to maintain a good relationship with this neighbor, or to accept some inevitable inconveniences. On the other hand, it was not for nothing that the sages of the past advised not to spit in a well from which you could drink later,” Irina concludes.
Well, it’s interesting that the opinions of people in the comments were also divided, forming approximately two equal camps. Folks of the first believe that the author should still sacrifice her emotions and help the neighbor. After all, she’s not asking for much… “I think maintaining a harmonious neighbor relationship is a good thing, you could need a favor next,” one of the first camp adherents wrote.
Others do believe that since the neighbor is not such a close acquaintance to the original poster, refusing her this favor should not be a big problem either. “She’s not a friend just a neighbor,” another responder claimed. “She’ll have to have an old school wash at the sink.” And which way would you, our dear readers, act in this situation?
People in the comments were also very divided, but most of them suggested the author do the favor, just in case
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Id let a neighbour use my shower if they were nice people and i got along with them. Why not? So many a-holes apparently out there.
I agree, op sounds pretty selfish. People don't help eachother out anymore, it's pretty sad. My uncle lives in Minnesota near an Amish compound. He's friendly with them and asked one of them to feed his animals and such while he was gone. Long story short he came home early and found them lined up to use his shower.
Load More Replies...I'd sign up for a $10 planet fitness membership and use their showers before asking a neighbor I barely know if I can use their shower. This is weird to me. *Edit* I said that I would not ask to use someone's shower, not that I wouldn't let a neighbor use mine. I think it's a weird and awkward thing to ask of a neighbor. I also live close enough to a planet fitness and have no kids so I wouldn't have to do this. Just to clarify after reading responses.
Not everyone has Planet Fitness, or an equivalent, close enough for that to be feasible.
Load More Replies...Flannel, sponge, sink, and stand on a towel. We didn't even have showers until the 1970s.
Quite so. What my granny always referred to a a stand-up bath. I think daily showering has become so normal to some people that they don't think about washing in any other way.
Load More Replies...I guess it depends on what kind of neighbourhood you want. I've had neighbours use showers, washing machines, etc. We kept a bird for a few weeks because a neighbour's heat went out. But our neighbours have helped us find our dog, charge battery packs with their generator when power was out, clear a tree from the driveway after an ice storm. (Not all the same neighbours or neighbourhoods) But if that type of community sint important to you, be you. 20 minutes every two days seems very little support, but a big help. But I'd you don't want to have anything to do with neighbours, don't.
My entire water heater busted once and I had friendly relations with my neighbors...and I spent the next week heating water on the stove so I could wash myself cuz there was no way in hell I was gonna intrude on my neighbors like that.
I'd let her. But give her conditions acceptable to you. And make it clear somehow that you would prefer she don't hang around and time thief. Like, "Sure, but can it be at time? I'm working from home a lot this week and need quiet for calls. Then as she is getting out, smile and have your laptop/tablet out and headphones on or around your neck.
Personally, I don't think I'd ask that favour of a neighbour. On the other hand, if a neighbour asked me I'd probably say yes. It's not like she's asking to crash on her couch for two weeks or anything, and the world could use a little more community and mutual support.
As someone who does a lot of DIY, i had my moments of broken shower, broken hot water tank... I went to the gym. I would not bother a neighbour over this. NTA for me. I would let a neighbour use my shower though.
Let's hope OP never needs a favor. The neighbor is asking for what 5 times MAX to come over and use the shower.
2 weeks and showers every other day is more than 5...
Load More Replies...Hell no, I would never let them use it, especially since they're not even close??? I just get the ick so bad, l would never want a stranger or acquaintance use my bathroom or shower or toilet or anything 😭😭 god knows what they'll do or leave in it 😭😭 just imagine finding their hair there? eeeew
I'd be no, big imposition for two weeks when you hardly know someone and don't want to deal with their athletes foot or even just the added cost. Two weeks could turn into months. There's usually a local pool or gym where you could access for showers quite cheaply.
Two weeks to get her shower fixed? She needs to call around to fix it and maybe pay a bit more. I would certainly allow someone to use my shower once or twice but two weeks is a no and a significant imposition. She needs to make other arrangements like go to a gym. I’d tell her that you can accommodate her for one or two but she’ll have to figure it out for the rest of the time.
If Any of my neighbours, whom I am friends with in the building had this issue? Firstly they wouldn't ask because they are normal. Secondly if they did I'd say um no sorry. My space. Fill a tub with kettle water and bathe, or get some wipes and do a French wash.
Sort of the opposite situation : When Hurricane Helene did its dam**st here in the far upper corner of SC, our part of our large neighborhood had people going door to door - the ones with generators said to come over if any electronics needed to be charged - one said if anybody ran out of hot water before power was restored to feel free to come & get a shower since he has a gas hot water heater - we offered use of our gas stove & had some takers on that - the neighbor across the street was absolutely desperate for her morning cup of hot tea. And we barely knew some of these kind people.
She doesn't NEED to use a shower. Water and a washcloth will get the job done. Wash hair in sink.
Neighbor could report landlord not providing water or hot water. Neighbor could learn the hot bucket with warm bucket method. Lady with the real bathroom could help the neighbor get a gym membership or find a rec center with a pool. They always have showers.
That's the problem with entitlement now a days. NO means no. That's the whole point of asking a question in the first place. There is alway not just one answer. Like now everyone has to bow down to other people. The neighbor can ask another neighbor or actually call around for other people to fix it. Find it hard to believe with all the handymen and businesses out there they all say they can't fix it until 2 weeks? It's a shower, most can have it fixed in a day or 2. If they were close friends, ok no problem but they are neighbors, just that.
There is no suggestion in the original post that the neighbour didn't take no for an answer. You mad that up just to have something to be fake outraged about.
Load More Replies..."... occasionally talked while walking their dogs." While I would never ask to use a neighbor's shower, it's always nice to be on the lookout for another dog lover that might dog sit or something in a pinch; so she should grit her teeth and let the neighbor use her shower.
I'd probably do it - but she can't be "popping in" just whenever. "Sure, but the way my schedule is right now it'd need to between 9:00 & 9:30." I don't have a problem with a poster's suggestion that an open laptop be in view & let her draw her own conclusions. Another one said she wouldn't want somebody using her expensive shampoo. "Just let me know the night before whether you'll be coming & I'll put away things on my vanity so you'll have room for your towels & everything else you bring." [Including the hair dryer - using that would prolong the stay & she's not without electricity at home.] & Don't have a cup of coffee out - she might invite herself to stay for some chit-chat. If she does overstay her welcome, beyond your stated time, keep looking at your watch & say something vague like, "Well, I need to get back to ..... " She might turn out to be a very considerate person & you might end up with her as a friend. But if she takes advantage & abuses your generosity, "I'm sorry but this just isn't working out for me." & FGS, tell her to go door-to-door, if she has to, asking for personal recommendations for a reliable plumber* (& not to call the big companies 1st - look at their web sites - they're generally the most expensive). Surely she can get one there quicker than the company she has already scheduled. Ours would be here this afternoon or tomorrow morning. *& I never hire anybody who has Bible scripture on his truck.
I moved into a trailer and one of the other tenants told me the landlord had promised her the trailer first (the landlord never told me that and I'm the one who got to rent it). So now she has to live in her camper, but she wants to use my bathtub and shower. Thing is, I worked and she expected to be able to come over any time and use it. I just told her I didn't feel comfortable letting her in to use my bathroom whenever she wanted and am I glad I did. She ended up being a maniac and a thief, stealing from other people and inserting herself into their lives. The landlord finally kicked her out of her space. I currently have no shower and have to heat hot water up on the stove and take sponge baths. If I can do it, so can everyone else. In this case, I would see no need to disrupt my life and privacy because some other person can't deal with a little hardship for a short time.
Yea sure let her but make sure she knows you can't turn the cameras off.
Some guy 3 doors up was renovating prior to selling or letting his flat. There was no hot water. I knew him but not well. I had zero problems letting him and his friend use my shower. Even provided clean towels and put their filthy work clothes through the washing machine. I always am prepared to help my neighbours if they need it.
If OP said yes one of two things would happen. Either neighbor would be extremely thankful and considerate and maybe they'd become closer friends, OR this would become the next problematic post: "my next door neighbor didn't have a shower in her house for 2 weeks and asked if she could come over, and she's taking 45 minutes showers, using my fancy shampoos, leaving a mess in the bathroom, and I don't know how to tell her no after I agreed that she could do this for 2 weeks..."
All she did was politely ask, I'm sure she could deal with a no, but it's also normal to ask neighbours for help with small things. It's not ok to pressure or be passive aggressive but a, could you help me out, is a normal thing. Small tree down in the yard? Two people can deal with it in minutes, one person it could take all day. No harm in asking or lending a hand.
Load More Replies...Dang. What happened to be neighborly? Reading these comments is disappointing. OP has all the rights to refuse, but it couldn't hurt to help. They seem to be cordial enough. And we don't know her situation. 2 weeks of towel and bucket might not be enough. OP might be the only person they can trust to do this, without friends and family close. Plus, there might be something more going on. They seem on friendly terms. Maybe she's trying to get to know OP better, and trying to use this problem as an opportunity to do so.
I've used my neighbour's shower when ours was out of action. They've used my toilet when they got locked out and were waiting for someone to arrive with a spare key. We'd also helped get each other's kids to/from school, given and received lifts to places when cars stopped working. That said, we got very lucky with our neighbours and we've had others where there's no way I'd enter their house or have them in mine!
Load More Replies...This one could actually use a pool. Current comments seem to be split between it's weird for the neighbor to ask, and OP's a jerk to say no.
I'd say no. This isn't a close friend. I'm not comfortable having strangers in my house, especially not in an intimate space like my bathroom, maybe it makes a difference that I only have one. It's not like she's got no running water, clean up the best you can for a few days.
Load More Replies...I guess that 12% of the people here are self-centered, selfish narcissists, masquerading as people who have morals. The inconvenience is minor, but it helps the other person out a lot.
I guess that many people on BP who always talk about "being kind" don't like being called out for saying that they would not be kind when given the opportunity. "Oh, people should always be kind and considerate. Oh, are you asking me whether I would be kind and considerate for a neighbor in need? Hell no! Wait a minute, how dare you call me out for not being kind!"
Load More Replies...You have a need? But my feeeeeeeeelings!!!!!!! /s This makes me sad. Are we really this selfish?
Many people indeed are that selfish, but hate when they are being called out. These selfish a$$es are really riled up - they're going around downvoting anybody who calls them out. They think that "being kind" means posting a Hug emoji when somebody suffered. The non-religious version of "thoughts and prayers".
Load More Replies...She has one already, they just can't do the repair for a week.
Load More Replies...Id let a neighbour use my shower if they were nice people and i got along with them. Why not? So many a-holes apparently out there.
I agree, op sounds pretty selfish. People don't help eachother out anymore, it's pretty sad. My uncle lives in Minnesota near an Amish compound. He's friendly with them and asked one of them to feed his animals and such while he was gone. Long story short he came home early and found them lined up to use his shower.
Load More Replies...I'd sign up for a $10 planet fitness membership and use their showers before asking a neighbor I barely know if I can use their shower. This is weird to me. *Edit* I said that I would not ask to use someone's shower, not that I wouldn't let a neighbor use mine. I think it's a weird and awkward thing to ask of a neighbor. I also live close enough to a planet fitness and have no kids so I wouldn't have to do this. Just to clarify after reading responses.
Not everyone has Planet Fitness, or an equivalent, close enough for that to be feasible.
Load More Replies...Flannel, sponge, sink, and stand on a towel. We didn't even have showers until the 1970s.
Quite so. What my granny always referred to a a stand-up bath. I think daily showering has become so normal to some people that they don't think about washing in any other way.
Load More Replies...I guess it depends on what kind of neighbourhood you want. I've had neighbours use showers, washing machines, etc. We kept a bird for a few weeks because a neighbour's heat went out. But our neighbours have helped us find our dog, charge battery packs with their generator when power was out, clear a tree from the driveway after an ice storm. (Not all the same neighbours or neighbourhoods) But if that type of community sint important to you, be you. 20 minutes every two days seems very little support, but a big help. But I'd you don't want to have anything to do with neighbours, don't.
My entire water heater busted once and I had friendly relations with my neighbors...and I spent the next week heating water on the stove so I could wash myself cuz there was no way in hell I was gonna intrude on my neighbors like that.
I'd let her. But give her conditions acceptable to you. And make it clear somehow that you would prefer she don't hang around and time thief. Like, "Sure, but can it be at time? I'm working from home a lot this week and need quiet for calls. Then as she is getting out, smile and have your laptop/tablet out and headphones on or around your neck.
Personally, I don't think I'd ask that favour of a neighbour. On the other hand, if a neighbour asked me I'd probably say yes. It's not like she's asking to crash on her couch for two weeks or anything, and the world could use a little more community and mutual support.
As someone who does a lot of DIY, i had my moments of broken shower, broken hot water tank... I went to the gym. I would not bother a neighbour over this. NTA for me. I would let a neighbour use my shower though.
Let's hope OP never needs a favor. The neighbor is asking for what 5 times MAX to come over and use the shower.
2 weeks and showers every other day is more than 5...
Load More Replies...Hell no, I would never let them use it, especially since they're not even close??? I just get the ick so bad, l would never want a stranger or acquaintance use my bathroom or shower or toilet or anything 😭😭 god knows what they'll do or leave in it 😭😭 just imagine finding their hair there? eeeew
I'd be no, big imposition for two weeks when you hardly know someone and don't want to deal with their athletes foot or even just the added cost. Two weeks could turn into months. There's usually a local pool or gym where you could access for showers quite cheaply.
Two weeks to get her shower fixed? She needs to call around to fix it and maybe pay a bit more. I would certainly allow someone to use my shower once or twice but two weeks is a no and a significant imposition. She needs to make other arrangements like go to a gym. I’d tell her that you can accommodate her for one or two but she’ll have to figure it out for the rest of the time.
If Any of my neighbours, whom I am friends with in the building had this issue? Firstly they wouldn't ask because they are normal. Secondly if they did I'd say um no sorry. My space. Fill a tub with kettle water and bathe, or get some wipes and do a French wash.
Sort of the opposite situation : When Hurricane Helene did its dam**st here in the far upper corner of SC, our part of our large neighborhood had people going door to door - the ones with generators said to come over if any electronics needed to be charged - one said if anybody ran out of hot water before power was restored to feel free to come & get a shower since he has a gas hot water heater - we offered use of our gas stove & had some takers on that - the neighbor across the street was absolutely desperate for her morning cup of hot tea. And we barely knew some of these kind people.
She doesn't NEED to use a shower. Water and a washcloth will get the job done. Wash hair in sink.
Neighbor could report landlord not providing water or hot water. Neighbor could learn the hot bucket with warm bucket method. Lady with the real bathroom could help the neighbor get a gym membership or find a rec center with a pool. They always have showers.
That's the problem with entitlement now a days. NO means no. That's the whole point of asking a question in the first place. There is alway not just one answer. Like now everyone has to bow down to other people. The neighbor can ask another neighbor or actually call around for other people to fix it. Find it hard to believe with all the handymen and businesses out there they all say they can't fix it until 2 weeks? It's a shower, most can have it fixed in a day or 2. If they were close friends, ok no problem but they are neighbors, just that.
There is no suggestion in the original post that the neighbour didn't take no for an answer. You mad that up just to have something to be fake outraged about.
Load More Replies..."... occasionally talked while walking their dogs." While I would never ask to use a neighbor's shower, it's always nice to be on the lookout for another dog lover that might dog sit or something in a pinch; so she should grit her teeth and let the neighbor use her shower.
I'd probably do it - but she can't be "popping in" just whenever. "Sure, but the way my schedule is right now it'd need to between 9:00 & 9:30." I don't have a problem with a poster's suggestion that an open laptop be in view & let her draw her own conclusions. Another one said she wouldn't want somebody using her expensive shampoo. "Just let me know the night before whether you'll be coming & I'll put away things on my vanity so you'll have room for your towels & everything else you bring." [Including the hair dryer - using that would prolong the stay & she's not without electricity at home.] & Don't have a cup of coffee out - she might invite herself to stay for some chit-chat. If she does overstay her welcome, beyond your stated time, keep looking at your watch & say something vague like, "Well, I need to get back to ..... " She might turn out to be a very considerate person & you might end up with her as a friend. But if she takes advantage & abuses your generosity, "I'm sorry but this just isn't working out for me." & FGS, tell her to go door-to-door, if she has to, asking for personal recommendations for a reliable plumber* (& not to call the big companies 1st - look at their web sites - they're generally the most expensive). Surely she can get one there quicker than the company she has already scheduled. Ours would be here this afternoon or tomorrow morning. *& I never hire anybody who has Bible scripture on his truck.
I moved into a trailer and one of the other tenants told me the landlord had promised her the trailer first (the landlord never told me that and I'm the one who got to rent it). So now she has to live in her camper, but she wants to use my bathtub and shower. Thing is, I worked and she expected to be able to come over any time and use it. I just told her I didn't feel comfortable letting her in to use my bathroom whenever she wanted and am I glad I did. She ended up being a maniac and a thief, stealing from other people and inserting herself into their lives. The landlord finally kicked her out of her space. I currently have no shower and have to heat hot water up on the stove and take sponge baths. If I can do it, so can everyone else. In this case, I would see no need to disrupt my life and privacy because some other person can't deal with a little hardship for a short time.
Yea sure let her but make sure she knows you can't turn the cameras off.
Some guy 3 doors up was renovating prior to selling or letting his flat. There was no hot water. I knew him but not well. I had zero problems letting him and his friend use my shower. Even provided clean towels and put their filthy work clothes through the washing machine. I always am prepared to help my neighbours if they need it.
If OP said yes one of two things would happen. Either neighbor would be extremely thankful and considerate and maybe they'd become closer friends, OR this would become the next problematic post: "my next door neighbor didn't have a shower in her house for 2 weeks and asked if she could come over, and she's taking 45 minutes showers, using my fancy shampoos, leaving a mess in the bathroom, and I don't know how to tell her no after I agreed that she could do this for 2 weeks..."
All she did was politely ask, I'm sure she could deal with a no, but it's also normal to ask neighbours for help with small things. It's not ok to pressure or be passive aggressive but a, could you help me out, is a normal thing. Small tree down in the yard? Two people can deal with it in minutes, one person it could take all day. No harm in asking or lending a hand.
Load More Replies...Dang. What happened to be neighborly? Reading these comments is disappointing. OP has all the rights to refuse, but it couldn't hurt to help. They seem to be cordial enough. And we don't know her situation. 2 weeks of towel and bucket might not be enough. OP might be the only person they can trust to do this, without friends and family close. Plus, there might be something more going on. They seem on friendly terms. Maybe she's trying to get to know OP better, and trying to use this problem as an opportunity to do so.
I've used my neighbour's shower when ours was out of action. They've used my toilet when they got locked out and were waiting for someone to arrive with a spare key. We'd also helped get each other's kids to/from school, given and received lifts to places when cars stopped working. That said, we got very lucky with our neighbours and we've had others where there's no way I'd enter their house or have them in mine!
Load More Replies...This one could actually use a pool. Current comments seem to be split between it's weird for the neighbor to ask, and OP's a jerk to say no.
I'd say no. This isn't a close friend. I'm not comfortable having strangers in my house, especially not in an intimate space like my bathroom, maybe it makes a difference that I only have one. It's not like she's got no running water, clean up the best you can for a few days.
Load More Replies...I guess that 12% of the people here are self-centered, selfish narcissists, masquerading as people who have morals. The inconvenience is minor, but it helps the other person out a lot.
I guess that many people on BP who always talk about "being kind" don't like being called out for saying that they would not be kind when given the opportunity. "Oh, people should always be kind and considerate. Oh, are you asking me whether I would be kind and considerate for a neighbor in need? Hell no! Wait a minute, how dare you call me out for not being kind!"
Load More Replies...You have a need? But my feeeeeeeeelings!!!!!!! /s This makes me sad. Are we really this selfish?
Many people indeed are that selfish, but hate when they are being called out. These selfish a$$es are really riled up - they're going around downvoting anybody who calls them out. They think that "being kind" means posting a Hug emoji when somebody suffered. The non-religious version of "thoughts and prayers".
Load More Replies...She has one already, they just can't do the repair for a week.
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