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“That Child Was So Scared”: Woman Hits Her Daughter’s Bully’s Mom In Front Of Her Child To Make Sure They Don’t Do It Again
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“That Child Was So Scared”: Woman Hits Her Daughter’s Bully’s Mom In Front Of Her Child To Make Sure They Don’t Do It Again

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Being bullied is not a fun feeling, but what’s even worse is when someone doesn’t believe you or nobody defends you. It happens a lot at schools when bullies don’t get punished and are just allowed to continue their behavior.

But this mom who was bullied herself was not allowing the same to happen to her children and when she went to meet her daughter’s bully’s mom, she wasn’t hesitant to become physical and threatened to do it again in front of the student who didn’t leave her child alone even if it wasn’t right.

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A video of a mom went viral as she told her experience of confronting her daughter’s bully’s mom with physical violence

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Naquavia Brown has 95.2k followers on TikTok and shares various videos of her participating in viral trends, dancing, telling stories and showing her kids, mostly her daughter. Turns out that the teen that frequently shows herself on the account was being bullied at school and the mom just recently found out.

The daughter first went to her dad as she knew that her mom would have a “different” reaction. But the dad wasn’t going to hide such a thing and told Naquavia what was going on, and her first instinct was to meet with the bully and their parent.

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The woman shared her interaction with the mom on TikTok and it went viral with 4.8M views, probably because nobody expected to hear about physical violence in a conversation concerning bullying. Not only did it go viral on TikTok, but it blew up on Twitter as well when user Jasmine K. shared it.

The mom recently found out her daughter was being bullied at school and arranged a meeting with the student and the parent

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What happened was that the bully’s mom started saying, “Are we really in here arguing about a bald-headed little—” and wasn’t given an opportunity to finish her sentence when Naquavia, horrified at the mom’s comment on her daughter’s appearance regarding her alopecia, “popped her.”

Then the TikToker turned to her daughter’s bully and threatened to beat her mother every day if the student ever bothers her daughter again. It seems that the solution worked as the daughter never complained about unfair treatment anymore, although we are always told that violence is never the answer.

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This led the mom to believe that this is a good way to solve the problem and gave other parents advice: “Y’all have to start beating up parents in front of their children so that the children know to leave people alone because their mama can’t help them.”

The bully’s parent wasn’t taking it seriously and was going to demean her daughter when Naquavia slapped her

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In a follow-up video, Naquavia responded with a stitch to some other TikTokers calling her a bully and saying they were sorry for her daughter. The videos are not available anymore, but the mom’s response still is.

In that video, she expresses that she wasn’t wrong for what she did and even the police didn’t arrest her or put her in jail. In fact, she believes that the bully’s mom should be arrested for knowing her child is a bully and allowing this behavior to continue.

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The woman has three children and she feels that it’s her responsibility to stand up for them because she remembers how she was bullied for years and nobody cared enough to do something even after she tried to take her own life multiple times.

Turning to the child, she said that she will do it again if the bullying won’t stop

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Parents including physical violence when they are trying to solve a conflict is not usual and feels wrong as you wouldn’t teach your child to be violent. But could this behavior be justified? Violence doesn’t come only in its physical form and you are allowed to defend yourself, matching the level with the other person according to Andrea Borghini, who has a Ph.D. in philosophy. He shares his perspective on ThoughtCo.

He says that “The most plausible justification of violence is when it is perpetrated in return of other violence.” And in mild versions, “to a punch you may be legitimate to respond with a punch; yet, to mobbing (a form of psychological, verbal violence, and institutional), you are not justified in replying with a punch (a form of physical violence).”

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But if it’s not a mild version, “in the name of self-defense, violence of any kind may be justified in reply to the violence of any other kind, provided there is a somewhat fair use of the violence exercised in self-defense.” So the question is if the bully’s mom words were cruel enough to justify the violent reaction?

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Although the philosopher would justify violence in some scenarios, but Miranda Banks, a performance psychologist, never recommends violence because more often than not it escalates the situation.

She told Bored Panda that “It ends up in the place where the biggest/strongest is likely to win. Or the one with the weapon.  Whilst it is undeniable that the threat of violence can be enough to keep actors from acting (see the case argued for keeping nuclear weapons), it is a far riskier strategy than others.”

Another thing to consider here as well is the legal issue of assault. The psychologist added, “I’m not sure that the little girl would feel so good if her mom were charged with assault.” But this wouldn’t be the only thing to affect the teen in such a situation.

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Although Miranda believes that the girl’s first reaction was relief and she was thankful for her mom defending her, “The problem is that the mom didn’t teach her little girl how the little girl could win battles – other than to ask her mom. That’s not building resilience or independence or effective problem-solving strategies. It’s employing a ‘goon’ to fight your battles. It just happens to be mom in this case.”

Overall, the expert believes that the way the mom handled the situation was wrong, “Children look to adults as role models for how to live. If violence is enacted or condoned, then another child grows up believing that violence is the best answer to a problem.”

This was what it took to make the bullying stop and Naquavia advises others to take the same actions

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You can listen to the mom telling her experience in the video below

@naquaviabrown Who was wrong in the situation #fyp ♬ original sound – Naquavia Brown

Miranda doesn’t agree with the method that the mom chose to defend her daughter, but she does understand her, “My heart goes out to both the little girl and her mom, despite my comments on her mom’s attack on the bully’s mom. It looks like the little girl’s mom simply didn’t know what else to do to stop the situation. This is a lack of education for how to effectively tackle bullying behaviour. I fully understand the mom wishing to protect her little girl. Absolutely totally get it.”

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Understanding someone doesn’t mean you agree with their actions, “What is evident is the need for effective education for how to tackle bullying for both children and adults.  If not, violence escalates; becomes vengeful… and boundaries can be crossed in moments when emotions run high with consequences that no one would wish for.”

Most people both in Naquavia’s TikTok comments and in the Twitter thread thought that the mom was justified in this situation and only few saw wrong in the woman’s actions. They were on the mom’s side because in their experience, sometimes it’s the only thing that works and the only thing that leads to some kind of change. Others considered the mom’s reaction to be assault and were weirded out about her threatening a child. They also added that an adult should have more self-control.

We would like to hear your thoughts. Was the mom right for using the method she did to stop her daughter from being bullied? Do you think her reaction was too strong and there was no need to put her hands on another person? Let us know in the comments.

People in the comments were impressed with how the mom stood up for her daughter and considered it to be appropriate given the situation

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Peppy Piplup
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At the risk of getting my account suspended, but does anyone else feel disturbed about a grown woman threatening a child like that? Edit: Oh, never mind. I thought I was going to get downvoted for this comment.

Well-Dressed Wolf
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Assault and battery is assault and battery, no matter whether or not OP’s child was getting bullied. It is illegal. OP should get arrested for punching the other kid’s mom. It doesn’t matter how badly her child was getting bullied, OP escalated the situation to violence, and that makes her a criminal. We should not be applauding and lauding a person who responds to words with violence. What lesson did her little girl learn? It’s okay to hit people and physically hurt them if you don’t like what they say. Reacting with violence makes you just as bad, if not worse, than the bullies.

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Timmy Pillinger
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not the society I want to live in. We need to have peaceable means actually work.

Sherman Von Gee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But you're cool living in a society where kids are being tortured by other kids on a daily basis n the parents of that child are condoning it? I'm not saying she handled it perfectly. But honestly... I am so sick of these stories. I'm sick of hearing stories about children LITERAL CHILDREN taking their own lives because of bullying. I'm sick of seeing kids lives get ruined by bullies. I'm sick of seeing schools not do s**t about it. I was bullied so bad I had to change schools. I got to my new school n within a year 6 more students from my old school transferred ALL BECAUSE OF THE SAME 3 GIRLS BULLYING Them! Before we left the first school My parents tried to do a mediation w/ the school n the families of the girls but the parents defended their kids n denied they'd ever do such a thing. The school backed up those kids. All of the kids who left including myself were on financial aid too. The bullies were all rich a*s kids who were spoiled as f**k (1/2)

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ZeroCapacity
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a couple issues with this, one being this lady went on the internet and confessed to assault. This has to be one of the dumbest things I have heard in a long time. The second was an "adult", and I use the term for lack of a better one, basically threatend a child and then bragged about it. Yeah I get her child was bwing bullied, but that is no excuse to threaten a child. This person belongs in front of a judge and possibly jailed, not just for societies safety but her own child's safety as well.

Jared Johnson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's always so easy to criticize when you're standing on the outside. The more unheard you are/feel, the more you'll escalate. School did nothing. The bully's mother talks c**p about her kid. In my book, as a parent, whatever the charge in front of the law, I'll wear it with a freaking badge of honor. As parents, you set boundaries for your children. If you don't, someone else will now or later, and odds are you're not going to like them neither is it going to be pretty. Violence is never the solution is such a c**p thing lol. Why are the poor Ukrainians even fighting then? When violence is what you speak, violence is the only thing you'll understand. Sure what she did may be illegal, but I'll never equate legality with what's ethical or what's right.

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m 61, and when I was growing up, we didn’t have b******t “zero tolerance” rules that only serve to punish the victim too, so the only advice I was given about dealing with bullies was to stand up to them. Show strength. Deck them if you have to. Once you’ve shown the person who has been bullying you that you are not a victim, whether you had to break their nose or not, they will leave you alone—-in fact, they will take great pains to avoid you at all costs. Because they’re embarrassed.

Yeah, okay.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a nice ideology unless you are physically frail and really unable to do so. Or they threaten someone you love. Or many of the other same reasons people in power keep other people afraid. Trolling a kid to stand up to their bully (and the bully's friends) is telling a little kid "that's a You problem". We need to be better then that.

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Frando Bone
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are free to choose your actions but you are never free from the consequences.

Marina Rocha
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Imo OP is a criminal or I just don't have enough information on the extent of the bullying and ages of the children involved. But if it was something that would justify beating someone else that otherwise agreed to meet in good faith to discuss issues amongst children, I think the police should have called

Mrs Irish Mom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 YES if ur kid is getting bullied and the school dosnt do anything u can meet d parents and if ur kid is still being bullied after that u kick d c**p outta d parents in front of kid 2 get d message acoss... SO MANY KIDS KILL THEMSELVES OVER BULLIES wont b happening 2 my kid, id rather get locked up 4 battering d mom 👍

RJ
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OR! - hear me out - It can land you in jail. And when you post about it on the internet, it can be used against you in a court of law. Lord knows it would make ME feel better to express my blinding white-hot rage on the face of my child's bully (or their parent in lieu). But I know there will be consequences following... with lights and sirens. And it will not end well for me.

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TheLadyMagic
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband and I did the exact same thing to the parents other boy that was pulling our son in the 90s. Without going into too much detail because I don't know the statue of limitation for things. We had tried communicating with him through the school we had went to their home, still it continued. Then the mother made the mistake of telling me that my son is always going to get beat up until he lands the fight back. So I beat her a*s and told her since she refuses to raise her son I'll raise her and see if it will trickle down. Then my husband proceeded to do the same thing too the father, except they both worked in construction and my husband is one of 10 sons. I won't go into detail but the father got his first on the construction site.. two days later again we will calledl to the school because their son had attacked not only my son but another young boy. The mother was waiting for me to do something to tell her at the school I didn't but when she came out to leave for some reason she had two flat tires and two tires missing. Very small story but it took three times each for them to learn to control and raise their son.

Stump Rumpersonne
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These downvoters are displaying their clueless privilege. It's the same reason why we still have Nazis and white supremacists walking around proudly.

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Coolwhip
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So basically, this lady who has every right in the world to be pissed off came up to the school to try to handle this civilly with the child's mom. Then the other child's mom, who should be pissed off at her daughter for being a bully, instead tries to get flip at the mouth with the mother who is just trying to protect her daughter? I applaud you mom, because if your daughter would've committed suicide from this you would be beating yourself up for not trying to do more to protect her.

Jcusack
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HEAR ME OUT! When all else fails, yes knock the bully the f**k out. This lady needed to take a couple of actions before she reached this step. My sister in HS was being bullied by a guy. Now, he was being a huge d**k, I had a conversation with him, didn't stop, I told the AD who gave Saturday detentions, didn't stop. Had in school suspension when it made it to the principal, didn't stop. After 4 months and enough people notified with ZERO results, I told him I was done and to go outside. Before he came out of the door I broke his nose and knocked him the F out. I was suspended for a week. Not once did we have another incident. So yes, I do agree that bullies need to be taught a tough lesson sometimes, but this lady didn't take the right steps first.

Stump Rumpersonne
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If violence is committed against my family I will undoubtedly counter it with violence if reason and/or lawsuits don't work. These people crying be assault have the privilege of never being targeted by hate.

Sanchi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since I am Indian-American, I am sometimes targeted by hate. My dad says to not be the first to start a fight, but once the first punch is thrown im allowed to fight back

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SheamusFanFrom1987
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My take, popular or not goes like this: Speak first, find common ground and work something out, but always be prepared for the worst aka a brawl. I have been bullied before, I have tried to find a more peaceful solution but I've also had to resort to my own piercing tongue and fists a few times as well. Just remember though, actions have consequences. I learned that as well during those times.

Lisa T
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So the mother is bullying the other mother. Making her just as bad as the bully. When my kids were at high school (grades 7-12), the school had a zero tolerance policy. So even if you defended yourself against physical violence, you would get suspended as well. I always told my kids they had my permission to fight back and I wouldn’t be mad if they got suspended. Luckily it never happened

Marina Rocha
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not "bullying another mother". Assault and battery. Should have been prosecuted and tried by I jury of her peers

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More!
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was not teaching her child to be violent. Her child was not even there to see this all going on. This mum defended her child, the nasty mother of the bully was putting the kid down, calling her a bald head.. What would you do? Smile at the insults and thank them for their time? She clocked her, problem solved.

Praecordia
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So your teaching your kid to be a bigger bully or be friends with one to stop from being bullied? That’s a flawed logic. What happens when your mom isn’t there? Will she just get bullied again? Just enroll her into some self defense classes so she can stop whatever is happening to her when it happens. Sometimes violence is the answer but not for adults to demonstrate in front of kids. They need to have a better answer then to resort to violence as a go to.

R.k. White
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You gotta wonder how many of the folks that are criticizing her have children and have been in her shoes.. Nothing releases the dragon in a woman like having your child hurt. I've been blessed that my child has never been bullied but if he had...I can't say I wouldn't go full MMA a*s whooping on someone.

RJ
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just upvoted to negate that downvote you got... With respect, I disagree. I've watched too many Judge Judy episodes to see where that kind of attitude lands people. Jail. Court. Lawsuits. Judgements against. Money bleeding out of your pockets. Don't get me wrong... I have a special needs child - so bullying is guaranteed to happen. LORD knows I really want to vent my blinding white-hot rage on the M-Fer's who do this as well as their parents for not doing their fricken job better. But my kid needs me to NOT be in jail. And we need our money to help support them. Release the dragon and they'll send ALL the knights and shining armor against YOU. You switch from being the victim to the perpetrator and the bullies get to be martyrs. IMHO.

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1 year ago

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Paul Werner
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

there's usually a reason people bully and instead of trying to figure it out and maybe help the other kid you scar her and assault her mother ,well done!

Shylah Harley
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look I understand where the people against it are coming from. But you know what? Would you rather her hit the mom now and stop the bullying, or would you rather that child be bullied and dug at and broken down until one day they bring a gun to school? Your choice, f***ers.

Pamela Blue
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would always attempt a peace-keeping effort - just like this momma did. However - if the response I got was the same as this momma got - then a shiner will probably be the only answer. Parents of bullies are usually bullies themselves. Sad to say, there are times when trying to keep the peace simply doesn't work.

Ronnie Beaton
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was bullied as a child, and if my mother had walloped the mother of the kid who'd bullied me I would have cheered. When it comes to bullying, many teachers just do NOT want to know and turn a blind eye. I was bullied by a teacher - she would regularly call me stupid and lazy to my face. She once got me so upset over a tiny trivial thing, that I threw up on my desk. No sympathy AT ALL for bullies of ANY sort.

Ridge Rider
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My granddaughter Molly is being bullied. It started 2 months ago. Last week, the bully tried to hit Molly on the head and Molly dodged so the bully grabbed her arm and pulled down while twisting it and caused a sprain. Molly was out last week since the incident and went back to school today. Her parents wrote out an excuse telling them exactly why she missed school last week. Molly is supposed to see the principal this morning and tell her side of the situation. The bully when confronted by a teacher told her they were just "playing". I'll know this evening how the situation went.

Debbra W
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is so like World War II. Bullying increasing to the ultimate horror, until others have to fight back and suffer their own deaths until every evil stops. It's still going on with The Wicked Putin and the Ukraine.

Sonja
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this is horrible on so many levels but as a former bullying victim myself I have to say, unless schools get their a$$es up and start effectively stopping bullies without punishing the victims there will be more of that! Schools absolutely shy away from addressing bullying. They make talks and then ask the victims for compassion for the poor bully and their bad home situation or the victims are the only ones sitting with the teacher and lectured and the bully can go on as always. My bullying went on for years and no one did anything until I snapped and beath him up when he and his friend tortured me again. My unbridled rage was the only thing stopping them. Yet I still see 'support programs' for bullies all the time and when a child reports bullying a school counselor will run and pamper them while there's nothing done for the victims. There is something that would effectively stop incidents like this: Punish the bully! Support their victims!

D20 Games
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After reading the whole article from the bullied child's mother, I will agree that a slap to the bullying child's mother was called for. I get the sense that this was a braking point. Mama Bear mode kicked in. If it were me, he11 yes. All peaceful solutions had just been thrown away. I agree that peaceful resolution should be tried first. If that fails. I don't start fights. I WILL finish it though.

Anxiousguest
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get very much confused as to how these sort of stuffs happen at school. I'm from a 3rd world country.. but we don't have these issues qt school. Children go to school, study, play and comeback.. small fights are common.. but teachers interfere before it gets escalated. Also, some lovestories and drama in higher classes.. but teenage pregnancies , marriages e.y.c are unheard of.. And what exactly is bullying? Are you saying that one kid keeps on verbally/physically abusing other kid(s), and teachers will just be like.."lol, that happens" .. if so your system is f****d up.. also, kids come back and say everything to their parents right?

LMr
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really hate the format for these stories/segments.

StarlightPanda!
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah..Trying to rid violence with violence is not the right thing to do (unless it's necessary as a means of self defense.) =/

Sanchi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But what option do you have when talking doesn’t work? Using violence to stop people from bullying your child is better than losing your child to bullying. Have you ever been bullied so bad you held a knife to your chest and wondered if it was worth it? I thought not.

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T Meservey
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You do have to bully a bully BUT you do it smartly and not in a way that reinforces violence as a solution. The poster should have researched all the school and district rules about bullying so she could recite them by memory and then spent some time monitoring her child's school days, submitting in writing and following up with a phone call EACH and EVERY negative interaction from the bully. Make the bully get called on the carpet, make the bully's family show up to answer for her behavior, get her expelled if necessary. Make her behavior the focus of school energy until they want to address it just to end the constant problem. This approach takes longer and isn't as immediately satisfying as a slap but that's what smart people do, they take the time to build the case to get the result they want.

S
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only after I've exhausted (and I mean thoroughly exhausted) all other avenues... conferences with teachers, principles, the other parents, etc... You bet your a*s I'd take matter into my own hands for my child. Would I threaten a child like that? Absolutely not. But I'm not above being to the other mother, what her daughter is being to mine. Schools care more about the bully than the bullied, it's a well known fact. But I'd at least try to go through them first before reaching this extreme. Never threaten a child though.. that's bonkers.

madeline tansey bryson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YOU NAY SAYERS SHUT UP. HAVE YOU NEVER BEEN BULLIED. OR HAD A CHILD BEEN BULLIED. YOU CAN'T GO THE " LEGAL" WAY AND WIN. THE SCHOOLS DO JACK.

Jihana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have been bullied. Guess what, I hate bullies and violence. That's why I will never be a bullly or violent.

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DC
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Violence is not what takes two ... it's peace that does. When I was 14, a fromer friend of mine got the idea we should engage in a physical clash. I demanded knoweldge about the reasons to ... "You know already.". I finally gave in, our fight was pretty close, but I got to pull away his feet, pull down his pants and won. Afterwards, he admitted, that he thought me to be an easy opponent, and just wanted to "show off" to his girlfriend what a fighter he was. Idiot...

Chris berkley
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2 years ago

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Peppy Piplup
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At the risk of getting my account suspended, but does anyone else feel disturbed about a grown woman threatening a child like that? Edit: Oh, never mind. I thought I was going to get downvoted for this comment.

Well-Dressed Wolf
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Assault and battery is assault and battery, no matter whether or not OP’s child was getting bullied. It is illegal. OP should get arrested for punching the other kid’s mom. It doesn’t matter how badly her child was getting bullied, OP escalated the situation to violence, and that makes her a criminal. We should not be applauding and lauding a person who responds to words with violence. What lesson did her little girl learn? It’s okay to hit people and physically hurt them if you don’t like what they say. Reacting with violence makes you just as bad, if not worse, than the bullies.

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Timmy Pillinger
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not the society I want to live in. We need to have peaceable means actually work.

Sherman Von Gee
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But you're cool living in a society where kids are being tortured by other kids on a daily basis n the parents of that child are condoning it? I'm not saying she handled it perfectly. But honestly... I am so sick of these stories. I'm sick of hearing stories about children LITERAL CHILDREN taking their own lives because of bullying. I'm sick of seeing kids lives get ruined by bullies. I'm sick of seeing schools not do s**t about it. I was bullied so bad I had to change schools. I got to my new school n within a year 6 more students from my old school transferred ALL BECAUSE OF THE SAME 3 GIRLS BULLYING Them! Before we left the first school My parents tried to do a mediation w/ the school n the families of the girls but the parents defended their kids n denied they'd ever do such a thing. The school backed up those kids. All of the kids who left including myself were on financial aid too. The bullies were all rich a*s kids who were spoiled as f**k (1/2)

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ZeroCapacity
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a couple issues with this, one being this lady went on the internet and confessed to assault. This has to be one of the dumbest things I have heard in a long time. The second was an "adult", and I use the term for lack of a better one, basically threatend a child and then bragged about it. Yeah I get her child was bwing bullied, but that is no excuse to threaten a child. This person belongs in front of a judge and possibly jailed, not just for societies safety but her own child's safety as well.

Jared Johnson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's always so easy to criticize when you're standing on the outside. The more unheard you are/feel, the more you'll escalate. School did nothing. The bully's mother talks c**p about her kid. In my book, as a parent, whatever the charge in front of the law, I'll wear it with a freaking badge of honor. As parents, you set boundaries for your children. If you don't, someone else will now or later, and odds are you're not going to like them neither is it going to be pretty. Violence is never the solution is such a c**p thing lol. Why are the poor Ukrainians even fighting then? When violence is what you speak, violence is the only thing you'll understand. Sure what she did may be illegal, but I'll never equate legality with what's ethical or what's right.

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m 61, and when I was growing up, we didn’t have b******t “zero tolerance” rules that only serve to punish the victim too, so the only advice I was given about dealing with bullies was to stand up to them. Show strength. Deck them if you have to. Once you’ve shown the person who has been bullying you that you are not a victim, whether you had to break their nose or not, they will leave you alone—-in fact, they will take great pains to avoid you at all costs. Because they’re embarrassed.

Yeah, okay.
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a nice ideology unless you are physically frail and really unable to do so. Or they threaten someone you love. Or many of the other same reasons people in power keep other people afraid. Trolling a kid to stand up to their bully (and the bully's friends) is telling a little kid "that's a You problem". We need to be better then that.

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Frando Bone
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are free to choose your actions but you are never free from the consequences.

Marina Rocha
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Imo OP is a criminal or I just don't have enough information on the extent of the bullying and ages of the children involved. But if it was something that would justify beating someone else that otherwise agreed to meet in good faith to discuss issues amongst children, I think the police should have called

Mrs Irish Mom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 YES if ur kid is getting bullied and the school dosnt do anything u can meet d parents and if ur kid is still being bullied after that u kick d c**p outta d parents in front of kid 2 get d message acoss... SO MANY KIDS KILL THEMSELVES OVER BULLIES wont b happening 2 my kid, id rather get locked up 4 battering d mom 👍

RJ
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OR! - hear me out - It can land you in jail. And when you post about it on the internet, it can be used against you in a court of law. Lord knows it would make ME feel better to express my blinding white-hot rage on the face of my child's bully (or their parent in lieu). But I know there will be consequences following... with lights and sirens. And it will not end well for me.

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TheLadyMagic
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband and I did the exact same thing to the parents other boy that was pulling our son in the 90s. Without going into too much detail because I don't know the statue of limitation for things. We had tried communicating with him through the school we had went to their home, still it continued. Then the mother made the mistake of telling me that my son is always going to get beat up until he lands the fight back. So I beat her a*s and told her since she refuses to raise her son I'll raise her and see if it will trickle down. Then my husband proceeded to do the same thing too the father, except they both worked in construction and my husband is one of 10 sons. I won't go into detail but the father got his first on the construction site.. two days later again we will calledl to the school because their son had attacked not only my son but another young boy. The mother was waiting for me to do something to tell her at the school I didn't but when she came out to leave for some reason she had two flat tires and two tires missing. Very small story but it took three times each for them to learn to control and raise their son.

Stump Rumpersonne
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These downvoters are displaying their clueless privilege. It's the same reason why we still have Nazis and white supremacists walking around proudly.

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Coolwhip
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So basically, this lady who has every right in the world to be pissed off came up to the school to try to handle this civilly with the child's mom. Then the other child's mom, who should be pissed off at her daughter for being a bully, instead tries to get flip at the mouth with the mother who is just trying to protect her daughter? I applaud you mom, because if your daughter would've committed suicide from this you would be beating yourself up for not trying to do more to protect her.

Jcusack
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HEAR ME OUT! When all else fails, yes knock the bully the f**k out. This lady needed to take a couple of actions before she reached this step. My sister in HS was being bullied by a guy. Now, he was being a huge d**k, I had a conversation with him, didn't stop, I told the AD who gave Saturday detentions, didn't stop. Had in school suspension when it made it to the principal, didn't stop. After 4 months and enough people notified with ZERO results, I told him I was done and to go outside. Before he came out of the door I broke his nose and knocked him the F out. I was suspended for a week. Not once did we have another incident. So yes, I do agree that bullies need to be taught a tough lesson sometimes, but this lady didn't take the right steps first.

Stump Rumpersonne
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If violence is committed against my family I will undoubtedly counter it with violence if reason and/or lawsuits don't work. These people crying be assault have the privilege of never being targeted by hate.

Sanchi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since I am Indian-American, I am sometimes targeted by hate. My dad says to not be the first to start a fight, but once the first punch is thrown im allowed to fight back

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SheamusFanFrom1987
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My take, popular or not goes like this: Speak first, find common ground and work something out, but always be prepared for the worst aka a brawl. I have been bullied before, I have tried to find a more peaceful solution but I've also had to resort to my own piercing tongue and fists a few times as well. Just remember though, actions have consequences. I learned that as well during those times.

Lisa T
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So the mother is bullying the other mother. Making her just as bad as the bully. When my kids were at high school (grades 7-12), the school had a zero tolerance policy. So even if you defended yourself against physical violence, you would get suspended as well. I always told my kids they had my permission to fight back and I wouldn’t be mad if they got suspended. Luckily it never happened

Marina Rocha
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not "bullying another mother". Assault and battery. Should have been prosecuted and tried by I jury of her peers

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More!
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was not teaching her child to be violent. Her child was not even there to see this all going on. This mum defended her child, the nasty mother of the bully was putting the kid down, calling her a bald head.. What would you do? Smile at the insults and thank them for their time? She clocked her, problem solved.

Praecordia
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So your teaching your kid to be a bigger bully or be friends with one to stop from being bullied? That’s a flawed logic. What happens when your mom isn’t there? Will she just get bullied again? Just enroll her into some self defense classes so she can stop whatever is happening to her when it happens. Sometimes violence is the answer but not for adults to demonstrate in front of kids. They need to have a better answer then to resort to violence as a go to.

R.k. White
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You gotta wonder how many of the folks that are criticizing her have children and have been in her shoes.. Nothing releases the dragon in a woman like having your child hurt. I've been blessed that my child has never been bullied but if he had...I can't say I wouldn't go full MMA a*s whooping on someone.

RJ
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just upvoted to negate that downvote you got... With respect, I disagree. I've watched too many Judge Judy episodes to see where that kind of attitude lands people. Jail. Court. Lawsuits. Judgements against. Money bleeding out of your pockets. Don't get me wrong... I have a special needs child - so bullying is guaranteed to happen. LORD knows I really want to vent my blinding white-hot rage on the M-Fer's who do this as well as their parents for not doing their fricken job better. But my kid needs me to NOT be in jail. And we need our money to help support them. Release the dragon and they'll send ALL the knights and shining armor against YOU. You switch from being the victim to the perpetrator and the bullies get to be martyrs. IMHO.

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Doodlesx5x
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1 year ago

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Paul Werner
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

there's usually a reason people bully and instead of trying to figure it out and maybe help the other kid you scar her and assault her mother ,well done!

Shylah Harley
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look I understand where the people against it are coming from. But you know what? Would you rather her hit the mom now and stop the bullying, or would you rather that child be bullied and dug at and broken down until one day they bring a gun to school? Your choice, f***ers.

Pamela Blue
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would always attempt a peace-keeping effort - just like this momma did. However - if the response I got was the same as this momma got - then a shiner will probably be the only answer. Parents of bullies are usually bullies themselves. Sad to say, there are times when trying to keep the peace simply doesn't work.

Ronnie Beaton
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was bullied as a child, and if my mother had walloped the mother of the kid who'd bullied me I would have cheered. When it comes to bullying, many teachers just do NOT want to know and turn a blind eye. I was bullied by a teacher - she would regularly call me stupid and lazy to my face. She once got me so upset over a tiny trivial thing, that I threw up on my desk. No sympathy AT ALL for bullies of ANY sort.

Ridge Rider
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My granddaughter Molly is being bullied. It started 2 months ago. Last week, the bully tried to hit Molly on the head and Molly dodged so the bully grabbed her arm and pulled down while twisting it and caused a sprain. Molly was out last week since the incident and went back to school today. Her parents wrote out an excuse telling them exactly why she missed school last week. Molly is supposed to see the principal this morning and tell her side of the situation. The bully when confronted by a teacher told her they were just "playing". I'll know this evening how the situation went.

Debbra W
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is so like World War II. Bullying increasing to the ultimate horror, until others have to fight back and suffer their own deaths until every evil stops. It's still going on with The Wicked Putin and the Ukraine.

Sonja
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this is horrible on so many levels but as a former bullying victim myself I have to say, unless schools get their a$$es up and start effectively stopping bullies without punishing the victims there will be more of that! Schools absolutely shy away from addressing bullying. They make talks and then ask the victims for compassion for the poor bully and their bad home situation or the victims are the only ones sitting with the teacher and lectured and the bully can go on as always. My bullying went on for years and no one did anything until I snapped and beath him up when he and his friend tortured me again. My unbridled rage was the only thing stopping them. Yet I still see 'support programs' for bullies all the time and when a child reports bullying a school counselor will run and pamper them while there's nothing done for the victims. There is something that would effectively stop incidents like this: Punish the bully! Support their victims!

D20 Games
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After reading the whole article from the bullied child's mother, I will agree that a slap to the bullying child's mother was called for. I get the sense that this was a braking point. Mama Bear mode kicked in. If it were me, he11 yes. All peaceful solutions had just been thrown away. I agree that peaceful resolution should be tried first. If that fails. I don't start fights. I WILL finish it though.

Anxiousguest
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get very much confused as to how these sort of stuffs happen at school. I'm from a 3rd world country.. but we don't have these issues qt school. Children go to school, study, play and comeback.. small fights are common.. but teachers interfere before it gets escalated. Also, some lovestories and drama in higher classes.. but teenage pregnancies , marriages e.y.c are unheard of.. And what exactly is bullying? Are you saying that one kid keeps on verbally/physically abusing other kid(s), and teachers will just be like.."lol, that happens" .. if so your system is f****d up.. also, kids come back and say everything to their parents right?

LMr
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really hate the format for these stories/segments.

StarlightPanda!
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah..Trying to rid violence with violence is not the right thing to do (unless it's necessary as a means of self defense.) =/

Sanchi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But what option do you have when talking doesn’t work? Using violence to stop people from bullying your child is better than losing your child to bullying. Have you ever been bullied so bad you held a knife to your chest and wondered if it was worth it? I thought not.

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T Meservey
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You do have to bully a bully BUT you do it smartly and not in a way that reinforces violence as a solution. The poster should have researched all the school and district rules about bullying so she could recite them by memory and then spent some time monitoring her child's school days, submitting in writing and following up with a phone call EACH and EVERY negative interaction from the bully. Make the bully get called on the carpet, make the bully's family show up to answer for her behavior, get her expelled if necessary. Make her behavior the focus of school energy until they want to address it just to end the constant problem. This approach takes longer and isn't as immediately satisfying as a slap but that's what smart people do, they take the time to build the case to get the result they want.

S
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only after I've exhausted (and I mean thoroughly exhausted) all other avenues... conferences with teachers, principles, the other parents, etc... You bet your a*s I'd take matter into my own hands for my child. Would I threaten a child like that? Absolutely not. But I'm not above being to the other mother, what her daughter is being to mine. Schools care more about the bully than the bullied, it's a well known fact. But I'd at least try to go through them first before reaching this extreme. Never threaten a child though.. that's bonkers.

madeline tansey bryson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YOU NAY SAYERS SHUT UP. HAVE YOU NEVER BEEN BULLIED. OR HAD A CHILD BEEN BULLIED. YOU CAN'T GO THE " LEGAL" WAY AND WIN. THE SCHOOLS DO JACK.

Jihana
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have been bullied. Guess what, I hate bullies and violence. That's why I will never be a bullly or violent.

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DC
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Violence is not what takes two ... it's peace that does. When I was 14, a fromer friend of mine got the idea we should engage in a physical clash. I demanded knoweldge about the reasons to ... "You know already.". I finally gave in, our fight was pretty close, but I got to pull away his feet, pull down his pants and won. Afterwards, he admitted, that he thought me to be an easy opponent, and just wanted to "show off" to his girlfriend what a fighter he was. Idiot...

Chris berkley
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2 years ago

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