In this economy? You have your question backwards. It should be “people who want kids, why.”

deadcommand , Nataliya Vaitkevich/pexels Report

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I’d rather regret not having kids, than to regret having kids.

hiswifenotyours , Liza Summer/pexels Report

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Why would I want kids? Personally, I can’t think of a single compelling reason to have them. Kids deserve a parent who wants them, not someone who just tolerates them.

Worried-Medicine-664 , Pixabay/pexels Report

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There are too many reasons to list, but the biggest is probably just that it seems cruel to me to willingly raise someone in this world.

AlienSandwhich , Alex Green/pexels Report

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Look, I love kids. I WORK with kids. But at the end of the day I return home, to a childfree environment, where I can relax and not worry about mysterious sticky spots or stepping on Legos. I mean, I can imagine being a parent during the fun and cute moments. But I know those are few and far between.

Basically, there's no way I'd bring a child into this world unless I was fully committed to raising and loving them. And I'm not, so I won't.

Willowed-Wisp , Pixabay/pexels Report

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It's not the only reason, but one fear I've had is a special needs kid that would require constant care for the rest of my life.

adambl82 , cottonbro studio/pexels Report

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I struggle with anxiety and anger issues and I wouldn’t want to pass that on to my child or have them have to grow up dealing with my anxieties and anger episodes. I just couldn’t do it and it wouldn’t be fair to them. Plus it’s real expensive. I’d rather have a life of peace and quiet and travel to figure myself out. To the moms: you guys are tough saints.

anon , RDNE Stock project/pexels Report

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I'm a mom. I love my little rugrat. I can still give you 100 reasons why you shouldn't have kids.

anon , Brett Sayles/pexels Report

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Here’s a lot of the things pregnancy can do to someone’s body:

Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks), altered appetite and senses of taste and smell, nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester), heartburn and indigestion, constipation, weight gain, dizziness and light-headedness, bloating, swelling, fluid retention, hemorrhoids, abdominal cramps, yeast infections, congested, bloody nose, acne and mild skin disorders, skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen), mild to severe backache and strain, increased headaches, difficulty sleeping and discomfort while sleeping, increased urination and incontinence, bleeding gums, pica, breast pain and discharge, swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain, difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy, inability to take regular medications, shortness of breath, higher blood pressure, hair loss or increased facial/body hair, tendency to anemia, curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities, urinary tract infections, infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases), extreme pain on delivery, hormonal mood changes, including normal postpartum depression, continued postpartum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

stretch marks (worse in younger women), loose skin, permanent weight gain or redistribution, abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness, pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed uterus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh), changes to breasts, increased foot size, varicose veins, permanent changes in vision, scarring from episiotomy or c-section, vaginal, perineal, and/or clitoral tearing during delivery (90% of births cause some degree of tearing). These can lead to permanent issues such as incontinence, pain during intercourse, and the loss of the ability to have a clitoral orgasm. other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed because the culture values youth and beauty), increased proclivity for hemorrhoids, loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities, tooth loss, and osteoporosis), higher lifetime risk of developing Alzheimer's, newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)

Occasional complications and side effects:

complications of episiotomy, spousal/partner abuse, hyperemesis gravidarum, temporary and permanent injury to back, severe scarring requiring later surgery, (especially after additional pregnancies), dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele), pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies), eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death), gestational diabetes, placenta previa, anemia (which can be life-threatening), thrombocytopenic purpura, severe cramping, embolism (blood clots), medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby), diastasis recti also torn abdominal muscles, mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication), serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis), hormonal imbalance, ectopic pregnancy (risk of death), broken bones (ribcage, spine, hips, "tail bone"), hemorrhage and numerous other complications of delivery, refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease, aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters d**g metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures), severe postpartum depression and psychosis, research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors, research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy, research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

Less common (but serious) complications:

peripartum cardiomyopathy, cardiopulmonary arrest, magnesium toxicity, severe hypoxemia/acidosis, massive embolism, increased intracranial pressure, brain stem infarction, molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a pregnancy-induced cancer), malignant arrhythmia, circulatory collapse, placental abruption, obstetric fistula

More permanent side effects:

future infertility, permanent disability, Obstetric Fistula, Death



And then after all of that, you have a newborn to take care of who depends on you to live for the next 18 years minimum.


No thank you.

donatos_box , MART PRODUCTION/pexels Report

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I have 2 under the age of 2 and I'm regretting it so much. I've never really liked kids but wanted to experience being a mother and I thought I would definitely love my own and i really do.... but it's incredibly draining and overwhelming. I've never been so miserable.

Poopysnooperkins , Keira Burton/pexels Report

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I live in the United States, last thing I need is to provide healthcare for yet another human being. Not to mention future prospects seem pretty bleek in the U.S. so bringing a kid into this s**t hole would just be sort of mean.

waterbed87 , Pavel Danilyuk/pexels Report

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In case you haven't noticed, the world is a complete hell hole. I wouldn't want to force someone else into it.

External_Class_9456 , Rene Terp/pexels Report

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Kids are a lifelong commitment to raise and care for another human, and I don’t think I’m capable of handling that. I like kids, but I don’t think I could raise one well, so I’m not going to try.

boymanpal , Samson Katt /pexels Report

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Don’t make enough money to support them and me among other reasons.

anon , Aleks Magnusson / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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I enjoy freedom, I enjoy my relationship exactly as it is, I have a major fear of being pregnant, I like having money. Oh and I don’t like babies or kids. The reasons are endless.

Feeling_Ad_2354 , Sora Shimazaki/pexels Report

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I grew up with a brother 10 years younger than i am. Went from changing his diapers to teaching him how to mod minecraft.

Left to goto college. I call him nearly every night, and we still watch anime an play video games together theough discord calls.

I already had my kid. Hes called my little brother. Just wish i understood my familys financial situation sooner.

oxidezblood , Marta Wave /pexels Report

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I struggle with bipolar and ADHD. I have trouble keeping my own life together, let alone a second mini version of me.

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I like kids and I enjoy spending time with kids. I even work as a teacher, despite being underpaid for what I do. However, I don't want to have kids myself. The reason is simple: I don't want to have to deal with the guilt I'd feel.

The climate is going to s**t, and because of big companies and governments prioritising profit and "the economy" in the short term over everything else (despite the far greater costs we can expect in the long term as a result), things are bound to get worse over time. I don't expect governments or companies to clean up their act, so why should I bring a new life into this world and condemn them to suffering through an ever escalating series of crises?

There was a time when I wanted kids, and to be honest, a part of me still does. But I don't think I could live with the sense of guilt I'd struggle with.

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Kids are innocent.

They don't ask to be brought into this world; and creating another human is not only a huge responsibility, it's one that's often taken WAY too lightly.

Kids only deserve our best. So if you aren't able to financially, emotionally, etc, support your kid, you shouldn't have a kid. If you aren't 110% positive you want a kid, you shouldn't have a kid. Because kids deserve our best. Not d**g houses, unloving parents, abuse, or poverty. They deserve our best.

People often have kids to save a marriage, or "because it's what you're supposed to do", or because they are coerced to, and I legitimately hate that.

Since I'm not 110% positive I want kids, that means it would be extremely irresponsible of me to have kids. So I "don't want kids".

Lord_Metagross Report

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I realized while babysitting when I was younger that I don’t find the daily tasks that excellent parenting requires to be interesting or satisfying.

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1) I don’t like children, can’t relate to children, and feel uncomfortable around children.

2) I can’t justify birthing my own child when there are so many foster children without homes.

3) I can’t justify having a child at all with the lack of finances I have.

4) It would ruin my life to have a child, it would halt all the plans I have for my future. I could never bring a child into this world that I would resent for ruining my life. It’s not fair to the child or to me.

kathvrt , Antoni Shkraba / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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I think author Elizabeth Gilbert does a great job explaining it:


[Below is an excerpt from Eat, Pray, Love]

I kept waiting to want to have a baby, but it didn't happen. And I know what it feels like to want something, believe me. I well know what desire feels like. But it wasn't there. Moreover, I couldn't stop thinking about what my sister had said to me once, as she was breastfeeding her firstborn: “Having a baby is like getting a tattoo on your face. You really need to be certain it's what you want before you commit.”

How could I turn back now, though? Everything was in place. This was supposed to be the year. In fact, we'd been trying to get pregnant for a few months already. But nothing had happened (aside from the fact that—in an almost sarcastic mockery of pregnancy—I was experiencing psychosomatic morning sickness, nervously throwing up my breakfast every day). And every month when I got my period I would find myself whispering furtively in the bathroom: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for giving me one more month to live.

I'd been attempting to convince myself that this was normal. All women must feel this way when they're trying to get pregnant, I'd decided. (“Ambivalent” was the word I used, avoiding the much more accurate description: “utterly consumed with dread.”) I was trying to convince myself that my feelings were customary, despite all evidence to the contrary—such as the acquaintance I'd run into last week who'd just discovered that she was pregnant for the first time, after spending two years and a king's ransom in fertility treatments. She was ecstatic. She had wanted to be a mother forever, she told me. She admitted she'd been secretly buying baby clothes for years and hiding them under the bed, where her husband wouldn't find them.

I saw the joy in her face and I recognized it. This was the exact joy my own face had radiated last spring, the day I discovered that the magazine I worked for was going to send me on assignment to New Zealand, to write an article about the search for giant squid. And I thought, “Until I can feel as ecstatic about having a baby as I felt about going to New Zealand to search for a giant squid, I cannot have a baby.”.

ZigzAndZagz , Ketut Subiyanto / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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Not only have I lost the desire thanks to retail, but also I just always felt that kids make a wedge between couples. They end up dedicating everything to the children and fail to give each other at least 25% of their attention. That can either seriously harm or even destroy a relationship.

anon , Brett Sayles/pexels Report

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Because it’s a lifetime commitment to taking care of another human being, when I don’t have to.

Parkerinfante Report

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It seems pretty cruel given the dozen apocalypse scenarios they’d be battling.

Parenthood also seems completely unaffordable night now and a terrible quality of life for the parents.

I can’t think of a single reason to have them, given the current state of the world.

honcho713 Report

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I don't feel like raising a child or giving birth to one. It's way too stressful. I'd rather get married and enjoy life with my spouse.

detective_kiara Report

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I really love my wife, but she'd be a terrible parent. She's lazy, unreliable, and irresponsible. We're now in our mid 30s, and have been married for 10 years. I grew up, but she didn't.

And yet, I love her more than I want kids. But I've been putting off telling her how i feel regarding kids for a while, but she recently brought up having kids again, and now I'm going to need to face it.

I have communicated most of my issues to her, just never in the context of having kids (or not having them, I guess). Nothing changes, just more excuses.

Lazy-Equal4550 , Vera Arsic/pexels Report

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I don’t want to bring another person into this awful world.

FriedHummus , Lukas / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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They are expensive. They are a ton of responsibility. They are a ton of effort. They take away your freedom.

CommonSenseIsNeeded Report

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There’s already too much traffic, no need to add to it.

PhredInYerHead Report

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I have three kids and no money. Why can't I have no kids and three money?

No-Pin3379 Report

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For the time being, I'm not at a place where I can envision myself taking care of another human being. Perhaps I someday will, but I want to be able to experience some things in life before then. If I become a parent, I want to be the best possible parent there could be. I don't want to regret having kids because it took something from my life, and that sounds selfish, but I think everybody deserves to live a life they want.

anon Report

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I've never had any parental instinct. When younger I never thought about wanting to have kids. Now I really can't stand children, my sister spawned a couple crotch goblins and they are just awful. I think at best. I would be a neglectful parent. My not wanting kids has extended to refusing to be a sperm donor for my twin brother since a accident left him unable to have kids, but that's a whole other story.

Character_Square7621 Report

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I guess people that don't want kids are mature enough to know that they ain't prepare, from a financial or emotional/psychological point of view.

Also some people are able to have and rize kids (having the mature, the financial and emotional stability require) but decide that this is not the best time to do it for different reasons.

Crafty-Wave-7017 Report

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Because they are brats that I just don’t have enough mental health capacity to deal with on a daily basis.

deafy990 Report

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1. Kids are not your emotional support neither are they future investments.
2. I dont see this place getting any better and little bit decrease in population doesn't seem like too bad of an idea.
3. I dont think I myself am the most valuable contributor of the society or a great social representative, I am not sure how I would be able to raise a human which is socially viable enough to not make its own life hell and be fairly politically correct.
4. Quality of life is decreasing day by day (In context of mental health)
5. I'd rather adopt if in case I change my mind; the only way I can hope to make someone's life better than it already is.
6. And no karen just because I have a uterus doesnt mean I NEED to have kids.

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I used to work as a legal secretary for a personal injury lawyer. He told me about a case where his client had radiation burns from an x-ray machine. In the avalanche of documents he received from the defendant during discovery, he found an internal memo. The memo described a serious problem with the machines and continued: "This is an issue we can't ignore... unfortunately, it's not in the budget".

When the case went to trial, he told the jury, "Show them they need to put this in the budget next time." The jury complied, handing down one of the largest verdicts California had ever seen.

AmbitiousSquirrel4 , Maryam Kamavova / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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There were cases in the UK during the Falklands war in the 80s where the government claimed bullet wounds and lost limbs due to minefields were "incidental" injuries and not related to the fighting.

Like people just randomly generate holes in their chests and limbs fly off during birthday parties etc.

The government's own records showed they were "buying time" in order that the claimants would hopefully die of their injuries and the cases could be shut down.

WimbleWimble , Lukas / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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My mum's ex-boyfriend had to defend a triple-murder with kidnapping. Two of the victims were a mother and her three-year-old son. Defendant had some kind of psychosis, I'm not sure what. He attempted to carjack a fourth victim who was able to overpower him, leading to his arrest.

Said ex-boyfriend switched to prosecution after that.

Porrick , Alex Qian / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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Slayer statute, interpleader case in federal court. Client murdered her husband to collect insurance proceeds. Found out that she promised to pay 2 dudes to bind his hands and feet with duct tape, execute him, and burn him in an alley, for $20k each, to be payed out of the insurance funds.

She lost.

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TL;DR: lady wanted to show me her vagina, it just happened to not be attached to her body.

I already told one shocking story in this thread, but I got another that is a different kind of shocking.

I was pretty new to the practice and was meeting with a lot of clients. The firm I worked for had a lot of walk-ins and I was processing the potential clients.

I called in the next person and a mid-30s women walked in carrying a red and white cooler. She pops in down on my desk and the spends about 5 mins trying to sit down in the chair. My first thought was "must be some kind of personal injury."

First words out of her mouth after she sits, "I need to sue my doctor because my vagina just fell out."

My eyes immediately lock onto the cooler.

"Is...that?"

"Yes. I brought in with my just in case you needed to see it. Do you want to see it?" She begins to open the cooler.

Not gonna lie..I was curious but I stopped her and convinced her that a hospital was her best option at the moment.

Turns out she had vaginal reconstruction and the mesh came out in one big blob. Now, this is not my area of expertise. I am a corporate attorney. So I sent her to someone with more expensive.

Edit: meant experience not expensive but both are true so I'll let it stand.

Tokra_Kree , ALINA MATVEYCHEVA / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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It was a labor case, in which in the middle of the hearing, the judge (60-year-old male) started to flirt with my client (23-year-old female) in a direct, straightforward way. It was SO shocking that was one of the only cases I got speechless in a trial. Those hearings are closed here in Brazil, so no jury, no recording — nothing.

alekdefuneham , Sora Shimazaki / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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I told this story on r/lawyers a little while ago, but I'll tell it again here.

I'm an immigration lawyer. I do mostly VAWA and asylum, but I handle other stuff on occasion.

I had a prospective client come in a few weeks ago. He's interested in pursuing a relatively straightforward application. He tells me that he might have a criminal history that could affect his immigration. It's only one arrest though, he says. It happened in 19XX. And it's not serious.

"OK," I say. It happens. Nobody's perfect, and a single arrest is generally not a deal-breaker.

So, as I'm talking with him, I decide to Google his pretty unique name. A news article comes up, from his country, in his language. It's dated the same year he said... 19XX. Hm.

I ask him: "what kind of crime did you say it was?"


"Oh," he says, "I think it was d**g related." I figure, alright, marijuana arrest or something: nothing we can't overcome.


I click through to the article. The photo on the article sure looks like a lot like the prospective client. Turns out, prospective client's arrest was not for marijuana at all. It was for cocaine. And not a little cocaine. This guy was caught attempting to smuggle XX *pallets* of cocaine. I must have looked a little bug-eyed, because the guy gave me a sort of sheepish look and a shrug.

Hm.

I tell the prospective client, maybe we should start by filing a few FOIA requests (Freedom of Information Act Requests) to see what comes up, and we'll go from there. He agrees, and that's that.

I'll double check my suspicions against the government record, and let the client know what can, or cannot, be done.

Suffice it to say, getting caught smuggling multiple pallets of cocaine is not a small-time arrest. But, you never know what is or isn't true, and you should always do your due diligence.

Moonsight , Kindel Media / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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I did an alleged arson case for an insurance company once. The insured had to provide a list of all items he had lost including over 1,000 book titles. Every book was the biography of a serial killer — we figured it was probably every book ever written about a serial killer. Insured gave off serious dark and mysterious vibes. Who knows the truth?

lostatsea12a , Alexander Zvir / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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So…I see a lot of messed up injuries in my line of work (personal injury.) like permanent metal in people, scars, mental trauma. Videos of car accidents, broken bones, you know, messed up stuff.

But what gets me the most is health insurance companies. Basically, let’s say you have Kaiser, you get hurt they pay the bill. Unfortunately, if you get hurt by another person and recover funds from them, then your health insurance company (or workers comp) is entitled to be paid back from the money you get. Oh and the government gets first dibs too if you have Medicare or state funded health insurance. However bad you think the system is working, trust me, it’s worse.

PizzaNoPants , Antoni Shkraba / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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IANAL but periphery of a divorce; anesthesiologist and his wife; dude has tons of money and a huge secondary stash of gold and other non currency assets that he doesn’t disclose; keeps lowballing wife and she keeps arguing for the proper financial disclosure - he laughs as she has to keep paying for her attorney to file to get access to the assets that he won’t disclose and they can’t prove -

He kept lowballing her and refusing to settle all while he continues to make huge money and she struggles - he dgaf - he wanted to win and make her suffer and drag it out

Divorce initiated because of his infidelity.

DeepBlueSomethings , cottonbro studio / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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Not a lawyer but my Aunt was.

She was the state prosecutor for a case where a guy had gotten into an argument with another guy at a recreational baseball game.

After the game was over one guy left and went home. The other guy stayed at the baseball field with his son.

About like 30min to an hour later they are still at the baseball field and the other guy is back. He has a baseball bat and walks straight towards the dad at the pitching mound and starts hitting him over the head with the bat until hes unrecognizable. Kid frozen in terror while this guy murders his dad. He then walk over to the kid and does the same thing to him.

My Aunt was amazing at her job and got the guy sentenced to life in prison.

She lost her battle to cancer a few months ago. I loved listening to her stories. She was the best Aunt a guy could ask for.

ScubaNoname643 , Tim Eiden / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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Back in the day I investigated and later in my career prosecuted lots of arsons so I worked a lot of fire cases. One time the crews roll up on a garage fire. They are met by the home’s resident holding a blood-soaked towel to his crotch. The medics get him stable and transported. He later tells us the voice told him to eat a whole box of saltine crackers without drinking any water and he was like ok, and did that. Then the voice told him to eat the newspaper and he was like check. Then the voice said to cut off his testicles with a can opener and he was like yep. Then the voice said set the van on fire in the garage and he was like you got it. He did all those things in that order, and there were the scene photos of the testicles right there on the garage floor.

We got him into mental health court and he did pretty well.

anon , Aleks Magnusson / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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I'm an interpreter not an attorney, but I had a school case to interpret regarding bullying. The school decided to have a court case decision made in house. It was 12 kids and their parents on a stage in the cafeteria. The school officials were there and a school advocate who acted as judge. Apparently the seniors would trap the freshmen in a designated bathroom after lunch and jump them. Four seniors and eight freshman who were beat up individually, there were supposed to be nine but one was in the hospital. They showed surveillance of how the seniors picked the freshmen to beat up and there were 2 teachers aware of this, in one of the videos one of the teachers helped the seniors by pointing out who the freshmen were. This was a hazing technique that was going on in this school for years but this case was to make an example of those involved. The teachers involved were only mentioned when the bullys admitted receiving assistance in pointing out who to beat up, the teachers never got in trouble. Only one bully was expelled and all the freshmen were suspended. It was unjust and sad. This case went on for 3 days and each case lasted 3 to 5 hours after school.

SwtPvega5_ , RDNE Stock project / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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NAL, but personally involved in this horrific case. The travesty of justice was a contributing factor to me dropping out of pre-law in college.

Adding a spoiler tag because this is pretty bad. If there is a trigger warning, assume it applies.

>!In the late 80's, my uncle was convicted of violently raping over 30 children, myself and my youngest sister being two of the victims. During the case, my mother screamed multiple times that we were liars (especially when I testified) and trying to ruin his life. It got to the point where the judge asked her to quiet down or leave the courtroom.!<

>!The youngest victim was 3. The eldest in their 20's. A majority of the victims on record were dead from suicide or imprisoned for d**g use. Two boy scout troops were found to have all been victimized.!<

>!During the trial, he also admitted to having sex with animals (dogs, cows, sheep). The church (LDS) was VERY involved in his defense, as he was an elder of the church. We lured him away from the path of God, and he couldn't tell right from wrong.!<


>!He was sentenced to six **months** in a mental hospital. He got out in three, after "finding religion". Even though he was an elder of the church.!<


>!His hoarder apartment had to be cleaned out by me, aka one of his victims. His bank accounts were non-existent, despite me supplying evidence they were opened under false names. My mother repeatedly told police I was lying, despite her brother's own confession in court.!<


>!She ended up cleaning out my bank accounts (after already draining them bit by bit over the years) and giving him and the church the money because I "ruined his life". And she welcomed him back into her home where he continued to abuse my sister until she moved out. !<


Since I know there will be some questions. Yes, I am in therapy at this time. Yes, the judge was from the same church. I'll try my best to answer any others that come up.

Patches765 , Luis Quintero / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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Not a lawyer, but I got a summer gig once sorting -/alphabetizing case files at a law firm and throwing out the files that were more than 7 years old. This necessitated going through them occasionally to find the closure dates.

The saddest one I picked up was a 17 year old boy who got sent to jail for having sex with a 14 year old girl.

Not that I think it’s okay for a 17 year old to have sex with a 14 year old; that’s realllly pushing it to put it mildly.

What made me sad was the way that the prosecutors procured a confession. It was one of those “if you write a nice apology letter to her parents, maybe we can make this all go away” manipulated written confessions. It was this heartfelt letter that was all
“I’m so sorry I put your family through this hardship, I wasn’t thinking, it was irresponsible, etc”. — and it just had this soulless sticky note on it that just said “CONFESSED” in all caps.

I read lots of interesting case files, but that one was a gut punch. The kid did some time for that one.

coleosis1414 , KoolShooters / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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I was just an articling student at the time but we got a phone call that I still makes me laugh each time I think about it.

A woman calls in asking for advice on immigration law. I tell her I can't give advice but I can take details and book a meeting. She wants to know about claiming refugee status. I ask her where she is a refuge from. She then tells me that she doesn't want to claim refuge status, her sister does.

So I ask her where her sister is from, she tells me from Hong Kong. (This was almost a decade ago btw) So I ask her why she is fleeing Honk Kong. She tells me that her sister isn't fleeing Hong Kong, she is visiting on a 6 month visa.

So I ask why she want to help her sister get refuge status. She says she doesn't, she wants her sister to leave. Now, at this point I'm thoroughly confused. So I get her to elaborate.

Turns out, her sister is visiting and, to quote her, "She is ruining the family!" Her sister has threatened to stay on after her visa expires and this lady want to know whether she can actually do that. The short answer, no legal advice required is that she can't just stay, she has to go through immigration. So she asks what to do about her. I tell her, if she doesn't leave when her visa expires, call the cops. She says thanks and hangs up. I dissolve into fits of giggles.

kitskill , Ketut Subiyanto / pexels (not the actual photo) Report

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My sister is a criminal defense lawyer. She told me about a case where this guy had committed murder and after a week couldn't take the guilt and handed himself in.


Only when he got to the police station and confessed, they asked him where he killed this woman. He told them and they said it was out of their jurisdiction and to go to another police station to confess because it was closer to where the crime happened.


So he left and went the next day instead. Noone looked for him or asked or anything. It went completely unreported.
He did hand himself into the police station and they began to start proceedings for a case against him.
They wanted to include on the report the fact he had been turned away from the police station and still handed himself in to show some sort of character but the judge and police said they wouldn't allow it because it makes them look bad. They said they wouldn't let the jury even hear about it. My sisters team was frustrated and horrified.

This was in Ireland.

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Not a Lawyer but a law student. For my contractual law class is had to learn a verdict from The dutch supreme court which was pretty awfull. The situation was as follows:

A mom was cooking dinner, from where she was standing she could see her child playing outside. Suddenly a taxivan drives in the street and hits the child a quite a high speed. This sends the child of flying trough The air. When she hits the ground she has a lot of momentum so she slides over the street. The mother, obviously in shock, runs up to the child. When the mother grabs her child het hand vanishes in The back of the Head of the child. So the mother stands there with her hand in The scull/brain of the run over child.

This was the first time ever in dutch law that emiotional damages where accepted.

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A mother sold the family farm out from under the son who was supposed to inherit it. Someone shot her (nonfatally). There were so many suspects that almost every lawyer in the county was assigned to defend one of them. Forensics eventually narrowed it down to two suspects, but each so adamantly pointed at the other as the shooter that it was going to be hard to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt of either one's guilt. They both pleaded guilty to a lesser charge and served two years.

[Love Kills](https://dailybulldog.com/features/love-kills-tv-episode-based-on-2003-farmington-crime-story/)

Edited to add two more related links:

[https://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20030908/News/309089999](https://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20030908/News/309089999)

https://observer.com/2008/11/knee-deep/.

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Not a lawyer but a paralegal! We had a client who claimed to be the daughter of a man, but his other daughter claimed that wasn’t true. The mans estate went to probate court and they both had rival petitions going to be the administrator…(which in California you get money for along with your share of the estate) She was a nut and my boss regretted taking her on everytime we had to deal with her and after her trying to exhume the body, breaking into his house to “gather evidence” and sending us on a wild goose chase to family members in Arkansas who would vouch for her, claiming the decedent always said our client was his daughter.…..Cut to month later, we get a call from our client: the police are outside her house, she’s barricaded in and has a gun to her husband. She won’t come out, she keeps calling our office to talk the her attorney (who is not in that day) and I’m talking to her tell her and watching the police on the news at the same time. She ended up stabbing her husband, not killing him but leaving him a vegetable and she went to jail. Never found out if she was the real daughter or not.

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