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Mother Imposes “No Sleeping With BF” Rule On Her Grown Up Daughter, Asks Online If She’s Wrong
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Mother Imposes “No Sleeping With BF” Rule On Her Grown Up Daughter, Asks Online If She’s Wrong

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Parents are parents for life, no matter how old their children are. And, of course, who hasn’t heard the famous phrase “You’ll understand me once you have your own children”? But it is thought that with years it is getting easier for parents and their children to get along. However, there are still things that are hard to agree on no matter the age. And as we get older, the disagreements between parents and children could determine a broken relationship.

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It takes a lot for a parent to realize that their child is all grown up, but this mother sure takes her time

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One Reddit user, who is a mother to her already grown-up daughter, is asking whether she is being too sensitive about the idea of her daughter sleeping with her boyfriend when they come to visit her family.

And this mother is not the only one who is looking for answers in this situation. Believe it or not, but debates about whether parents should let their kids sleep with their boyfriend/girlfriend are quite frequent on Google.

This mother asked Reddit users if she’s wrong for imposing her “no boyfriend in bed” rule on her grown-up daughter

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What draws attention to this particular case is the reactions of other Reddit users. In almost 4.5 thousand comments people are discussing the boundaries parents and children should accept based on their own experience.

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What intensifies the discussion is some personal information that the woman shares with the audience: her daughter is a 25-year woman who already lives with her 26-year-old boyfriend. So what is all the fuss about you might think?

As the mother and her husband are certain that there should be no sleeping around before the marriage, they do not allow her daughter to sleep with her boyfriend when they come to visit the family.

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Her daughter, being a respectful human being, decided to comply with her parents’ wishes by not visiting them as often as they would want. This, of course, got her mother upset and lost as the only people who think that this is all right and her daughter is being simply rude is herself and her husband.

A lot of Reddit commentators agree that by flashing her “no sleeping before marriage” card, the mother is jeopardizing her relationship with her daughter.

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It seems that the main concern with which most of the parents face, especially those who raise daughters, is an unplanned pregnancy. But as the times change, the stigma of becoming a teen parent is also changing.

Instead of saying a brief and strict “no”, most of the parents are now looking for advice on how to talk to their children and how to prepare them for the next chapter of their lives. As we can see, open discussion on various platforms could be one of them.

The online group users were very supportive… of the daughter

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anarkzie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think it's a right or wrong situation, you have your rules but your rules have consequences. If you're not comfortable with your daughter sleeping with her partner in your house then you need to accept that she will not visit you as much.

Wilf
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't imagine what it would be like to value some outdated religious dogma over a strong and loving relationship with your own daughter. How sad that this woman cannot recognise what she is doing to the relationship with her daughter.

beckster308
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And we're not even talking about someone who's 18 or 19. We're talking about someone well into adulthood. It's even worse.

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Katrina B.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The whole "who waits three months between seeing their parents" is ridiculous. Before covid, I saw my parents.... twice a year. I can't really afford to travel and didn't have a ton of vacation time. Which is true for most younger people.

Boredzzz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be completely embarrased to visit my parents if I thought they'd be this preoccupied with my sex life. Very creepy.

Marianne
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They do realize that their daughter shares a bed with her partner in their shared appartment? I fail to see the point in the parents' house rule.

Ozacoter
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had that too with my grandmas. I live with my partner for 4 years but when we visit my family they offer him to stay with them in the guest room so we dont sleep together (i dont stay at my parents and book an airbnb to avoid my abusive father but thats a different issue). I always wonder if they think that we sleep in two rooms in our home.

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howdylee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if they never get married? Plenty of couples stay together long term but never marry.

Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. Nowadays marriage is not the norm anymore in some places. Depends usually of the laws of the country. In Spain being a registered couple brings you 0 benefits whole being married does so a lot of young people marry in civilian weddings. In Belgium for example being a registered couple is basically the same as being married so a lot of young people never marry.

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kjorn
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

same thing happen to my wife and i many years ago. we were living in another city but came back for christmas. her father didn't want us to sleep in the same room. my wife made i quite clear that if i wasn't allow to sleep in the same room we wouldn't be there... like we would have sex while her parent were in the room in the other side of the wall.

Viviane
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, did her father have sex strictly for reproduction? "I've been celibate since before you were born, you two can be celibate for a night or two." What an odd duck.

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blugeagua
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What I don't understand is the mother insisting that they can only sleep in the same bed at their house until after their married. But what difference does it make when they're ALREADY living together and sharing a bed together? They're already sharing a bed at their own house, so what the hell is signing some documents going to change? That mother and father are ridiculous and just plain weird.

Rainy Day Wolf
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she's punishing her for not following their religious traditions... the daughter might not even want to get married and this lady is ok with losing her daughter over that...

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are both in the right. It is their house, their rules but it's also up to the daughter whether she wants to put up with the rules or not. The mother just has to deal with the fact that the daughter doesn't see them more often coz she doesn't agree with the rules. Doesn't mean she doesn't respect the rules coz they do follow them when they stay.

Eslamala
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the same thing as visiting people who don't drink alcohol or eat meat. You can go and respect that, or not go. It's very simple, actually. I once had a friend who told me I shouldn't smoke in my house when she visits. I told her I would, only if she hid her dogs when I visit her, cause I hate dogs. She got mad and started ranting. The audacity!

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Terilee Bruyere
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your house, your rules. But playing the victim when your daughter doesn't visit you as often as you expect is just ridicules.

Uber Mensch
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to wonder how many times Mom said some variation of "grow up" while daughter was a child - and is now upset that daughter went and did just that.

François Carré
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry if I sound rude : the bare truth of that is parents feeling unable to overcome the idea of their ADULT childs having sex. Call it what you will, but insisting on marriage (i.e religious union) as the only way to make it acceptable seems extremely regressive, and this lady might need a good psychoanalysis rather than leading her daughter to the church.

Ron Santos
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A marriage by a judge/justice of the peace is just a legal as a “church wedding.” Watch heads explode in Mom & Dad’s house. 🤯😁

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Jessica Bertram
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the underlying issue here that no one else seems to commenting on is the level of demand that woman is placing on her daughter and son. If she wants to see them more often, SHE should go to THEM. it's as if their busy lives and new family units don't exist. Mom here is acting like she is the center of this family, and fails to realize her children (or, at least the daughter) are ACTIVELY untying the apron strings and stepping away. Her overbearing nature is not new, it is not healthy, and my suspicion is the adult daughter is already coping with emotional trauma from digging herself out from under all that overbearing mom attention for her past 25 years. Pulling away was probably a necessary mental health choice for her. Mom is narcissistic and fails to grasp the harm she is causing.

Karin Jansen
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't wait to see what happens when mom finally does decide to visit her daughter. Would mom be OK with daughter enforcing she sleep in a seperate room from dad, just because "daughter's house, daughter's rules"?

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Aunt Messy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She CHOSE to alienate her daughter and now she's whining because it worked. Got it. It won't be long before the daughter cuts all contact with this bitchy nut case of a mother.

troufaki13
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So in my understanding, the problem is that she doesn't want them sleeping together in her house, right? Because obviously in their house they do and I'm assuming she's aware of that?

Sophia Graubart
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yes thats right. she says she knows they have been co-habiting for 2 years, and i assume that was at least mostly done in the same bed

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Cassie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This article misses the discussion where people wondered why the sole responsibility of visits was on the daughter rather than shared.

Deborah B
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about recognising and respecting that she is an adult, who has a right to have her relationship and bodily autonomy respected? Her relationship, her rules. I.e. Sex before marriage is just fine.

beckster308
Community Member
3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some really good wisdom in these comments. I grew up with parents who were the same way. I was still living at home (21F) at their insistence when my bf (24M) got stuck at our house during an ice storm. They were so worried what the neighbors would think if they saw his car there overnight, they made him drive home in an ice storm--through the mountains two counties over! I married him that year just to get out of there.

Don't Look
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At this point, a couple of parents telling their grown child something like that is a moot point. You don't want them at your house unmarried, then get over it when they find a work around.

AzKhaleesi
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to know if you slept with your hubby prior to marriage. And I could understand if they were in their late teens and just got together but my gosh they have lived together for TWO years and in their mid 20's which leads me to believe they will be husband and wife one day. And for sake of argument, let's say they don't. But remain together? What if they never get married? come on.

Baby Panda
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this is stupid, i mean i understand having house rules but like she's 25, she's a grown woman, and they aren't even having sex, they're just sleeping next to each other, this mother is treating her daughter like a 14 year old!

Piet Puk
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe your rules are a bit dumb and you should re-evaluate why you have them?

tomruns12
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Karen need to decide if forcing her religious views on her daughter is worth destroying her relationship with her daughter.

Johnny
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My ex's parents had the same rule, even after we were dating for over 5 years and living together. We still respected it though. We only went home to her parents house once a year during Thanksgiving or Christmas when the house was so full of family that anything other than sleeping would have been out of the question (though we did manage to find some "special together time" in the car outside the house). My ex was willing to go along with the rule to prevent causing holiday stress. When the parents came to visit us, then we slept together as usual, the "no sleeping together before marriage" rule only applied in their house. One funny thing is that we went on an overseas trip with her parents once, they booked our hotel room... with 2 single beds! Which we just pushed together and night, and pulled apart in the morning.

Chich
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had a friend whose father pulled this "Not while you are under my roof" trip. He was in his 20s but had to sleep in separate rooms when visiting with his long term girlfriend. Well wouldn't ya know it. Several years down the road his parents divorced and his dad came to visit with his new girlfriend. 60 something years old and my buddy made him sleep on the couch while his girlfriend got the spare bedroom. Said it was great and the girlfriend got the biggest laugh out of it.

Natalie Kudryashova
Community Member
3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The rule itself is actually wrong too. Your house is not above law and human rights. You can set the rule that people need to take off shoes or wash hands, whatever, but not rules that cross personal boundaries. How would this mum feel if she and her husband went to stay at her daughter’s and were told to sleep in separate beds? I’ve been in the same situation at the hands of my boyfriend’s mother, and it makes you feel unwelcome and openly insulted when you get shown to a separate bedroom even though you live together with the man. Every time we go to visit them it’s a lot of stress for me and feels super uncomfortable.

YA NA
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If my parents were like her, I wouldn't wanna visit much either. I thought at first her daughter was maybe 16, 18 with a new boyfriend, but in their mid 20s and living together.... I don't blame the daughter one bit.

WilvanderHeijden
Community Member
3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you know and have no problem with the fact that your daughter is living together with her boyfriend, you're quite a bigot when you have a rule "No sleeping together before marriage under my roof." Perhaps the daughter doesn't like to hang out with bigots.

Thalia Lovering
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your house, your rule, your problem if your daughter decides not to visit you anymore. But, if I were you, I would seek help. You don't sound like a very stable and mentally healthy person.

David Beaulieu
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm always amazed at the number of people that do not understand that actions (even those that are moral/justified in their eyes) have ramifications. Action=reaction. Your 25 year old child does not owe you a visit unless there is some agreement, social or otherwise. And just an FYI, your kid might just not like you very much. But you should be proud of them for respecting your wishes and following your 'rules'.

Samantha Lomb
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother's now in-laws did this and their relationship still hasn't recovered. Particularly as they did not enforce the rule with the sister's boyfriend who they clearly liked better. I think it is a stupid thing to do

sofacushionfort
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why bother? Even if you don't let your adult children sleep with their significant others under your roof, you'll never come close to evening up the number of times they killed mommy & daddy nookies when they were little.

Matt Du
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3 years ago

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blugeagua
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's so dumb since she states they're already living together so they already share a bed.

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kath morgan
Community Member
3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She’s the arsehole. The mother has it backwards; she is choosing her rule over seeing her daughter as much as she would like.

MagNat
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It would be funny if they have children and don't get married. Imagine the grandparents explaining to the grandchildren that mommy and daddy have to sleep in separate rooms because they are not married.

Brandi VanSteenwyk
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of the biggest lessons you can teach your children is to be non-judgemental. And one of the best ways to teach it is BY EXAMPLE. This mother is judging her adult child's choices. Not a good way to maintain a good relationship.

Deanna Crichley
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What would happen if they decided to have a child without being married? Would that rule still hold? Would they still try to enforce it if it meant the couple wouldn't visit as often WITH their grandchild?

Laura Dawson
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she was under the age of 18 - yeah I'd be like no your boyfriend can't stay in your room. Maybe even under 21 as that's still super young & it's weird even if you try not to make it weird cause ultimately you know your young adult kid could be having sex down the hall. It's not the sleeping in the same bed if all they did was sleep, it's the chances they will have sex that freaks a lot of parents out. However - in this situation - she's 25 & her boyf. is 26. She's a grown woman. I wouldn't have an issue with it at all. The mother is being unreasonable. She sounds controlling & I wonder if she would enforce this rule on her son if he brought around his girlfriend. She sounds as if the son is her favourite out of her kids & by doing this, it's pushing her daughter away. Sooner or later, she won't have to moan about her daughter not visiting every few months as there won't be a relationship left if she continues on like this. Treat your daughter like a responsible adult.

Aria Whitaker
Community Member
3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agree with most of this, but I do think if you are in your 20's AT ALL, it is kind of dumb to enforce this. So, as a "young adult kid" they can vote for the leader of the country, go to war and kill random humans, smoke cigarettes...but cant sleep in the bed with a boyfriend? THAT is where the line is drawn? LOL... They are just too young for that, despite being about to carry a military grade weapon or smoke? That just sounds SO silly.

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Franc Esca
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's fine if it's ger rule, doesn't mean the daughter is staying over.

somnomania
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i will never understand religious notions that mean that your adult offspring living on their own and being in a consenting relationship that presumably includes sex is okay, but when they specifically visit you in your house it's not okay for the adult offspring and their partner to share a bed because they're not bound by a symbolic and arguably archaic ceremony yet? like, what? they're probably not even going to have sex in that bed because who wants to have sex with their parents in the house. just let your adult kids live their lives and stop trying to force them to comply with your way of thinking.

StrawberryParfait
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents need not think about what their grown children do with their genitals.

elfin
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds as though this worked out so both sides got what they wanted. Mom didn't want the two sleeping together in her house and they agreed. Daughter wanted to share a bed with her boyfriend and she gets to do that. Hard to see why Mom is complaining when she got exactly what she asked for.

Fact Perils
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's literally 25 in a committed relationship. Not everyone wants to get married. And the mother should definitely not be upset about them not wanting to visit. Disrespecting the rules would be sleeping together under your roof, respecting the rules is not going under the mother's roof because you don't like the rules.

Jessica
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She doesn't live with you it's not your business. Of course she's not going to come over your disrespectful of their relationship because you think that marriage is the only thing that validates a relationship. The way they are trying to control their independent adult daughter when she visits it's a f****n wonder she visits at all

Jo Choto
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They can have any rules for their house they want, but that means they exclude the daughter and partner from living their normal lives while visiting. I suspect that there's many more reasons why the couple doesn't want to spend time the parents though. They sound extremely self-righteous and obnoxious.

Random Anon
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry to say this but the parents are being too entitled. It shows that these people hasn't learn the simple rule or "you reap what you sow". I'm not trying to be mean to them for their believes here. I think the daughter is already compromising here by still visiting despite clearly being put in an uncomfortable situation. But these parents feel it isn't enough despite these self-imposed limitations. Are they expecting their daughter to bend over backwards to conform to their expectations?

Ron Santos
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is there anything stopping the daughter from saying, “ The guest room sounds great! We’ll be extra comfy in there.” 🤪

Joanne Piper
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your house your rules but those rules will not get you very far. This will not force them into marriage until they are ready and clearly they don't agree with your moral stance.All you are doing is showing your displeasure which your doughter and her man are well aware of and probably makes them uncomfortable, which is probably your goal. At this point you are not protecting her or your son or yourself from anything as it's all out in the open, your daughter has a sex life. It will not make you closer either. You must decide is your rule worth it for you. If it is you will see less of your daughter, she has picked her man.

Max
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was allowed to share a bed with my partner from when I got my first partner at 17. I'm almost thirty now and nothing dire has happened.

Todd Hunter
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This lady should get a doll, if she want's to control something she can buy it pretty dresses and not let it sleep with it's clearly serious partner.

SrLongBeach
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My fiancée and I were spending New Years Eve with her best friend and her family. Same rule, I could either bunk with her BFF's brothers or I could have the couch ( I chose couch). The only difference is her BFF's parents were super cool, treated me like I was part of their family since day one and I enjoyed spending time at their house! Hell, I'd go hang out with them on my own some times! But the point is, it's not an inconvenience to not sleep next to my partner when everyone else is not insufferable.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course she can make any crazy rules she wants but everybody who is not living in her house, has equal right to not visit if those rules for example violates their rights to choose if they want to sleep in the same room with their spouse. To me this sounds like a mother who just wants to control her adult children and it doesn't have anything to do with their beliefs, because it seems that the daughter didn't expect this rule. Your children are not your property, people!

Steve
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No problem! Next time come by with 3 girlfriends and have an orgy in the living room

Ragnhild Nilsen
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After having lived together for years, don't you think that what _could_ happen between two concenting adults, has already happened?

HooowlAtTheMoon
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ridiculous. YTA. Your daughter and her boyfriend are adults now, they can believe and do what they please, they don't have to do every little thing you want them to. If they sleep in the same bed at wherever they live, they should be allowed to at your house aswell. (tl;dr: i agree with the brother, its not a big deal to let them sleep together. just let them do what they want.)

jo.walter051911@gmail.com
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I married my husband, I had moved into his family home about 3 months prior to the wedding AND was already pregnant and I still slept in the guestroom of his parents home (as per their wishes) until after the wedding. It wasn't hard to understand their position on it as they are Christian and it was a blessing they took me in at all after my parents threw me out (in Florida) and I had no where to go when I got to California (where my husband lived at the time). We still slept together after moving in, and we still had sex (hello, already pregnant), but at bedtime, we had separate rooms. We just did all the things when his parents weren't around, so we weren't flaunting that against their beliefs to the best extent possible. I don't think his parents were unreasonable in doing this, and when my husband did eventually meet my parents, my mom didn't care where he slept, so we shared a room. "Damage was already done" as she put it... #eyeroll

M O'Connell
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to wonder if parents like this are just being spiteful for having been forced to live in such arrangements when they began their own relationships. Being SO conservative doesn't seem like it has any measurable benefits anyway.

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JP
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I notice mom doesn't say anything about visiting the daughter...only the daughter visiting her. One-way street all the way, huh? SMH

Craig Reynolds
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your house, your rules but I have to ask, if this was an unmarried couple you have been friends with for years (not family) would you impose the same rule on them? If yes, then all is fine but if NO, then I believe some further introspection on the double standard is in order.

Donna Leske
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is no mention of her parents traveling to come and visit the young couple - or would it be a visit to be with the daughter and ignore the bf? Would parents sleep over at their place or expect the 'sinners' to sleep separately for the entire visit?

Janet C
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This happened to me. My future husband and I were living together -- for over a year -- when we planned a visit to my parents. We were told we'd have to sleep separately. Mom's house/mom's rules but we chose not to go.

CincyReds
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom did the same thing.... What is marriage? A piece of paper? Now my daughter and her boyfriend, come to vist, they can sleep in the same bed, I don't care! they love each other, and I doubt very seriously they are doing anything but sleeping, she said it would just be wierd.

Caroline Driver
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just waiting for the blaming of Satan for her daughter's sinful ways...

Valerie Zinn
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The daughter is living with her boyfriend for 2 years. Mom needs to get over it. She’s lucky the daughter visits at all.

fu yu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother is lucky she has a mature daughter. Some people would actually be offended by the mother's request.

Anna Repp
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I married against my parents wishes, and we lived together with my husband for 2-3 years till we came to visit my parents together. My mom was very concerned about us sleeping together. I said - regardless of whether you like him or not, we are officially married and have been sleeping in the same bed even before we got married. We are not breaking our habits because you feel weird about them. We would love to stay at your place, but we sleep in the same bed, or if that bothers you, we do not stay at your place and book a hotel.

Joshua Brenneman
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn't the 1950s. Let your daughter be. There's literally no moral or ethical point at for waiting till marriage, especially when this isn't even sex. It's just sharing a room.

luvdemhogs
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a father of a daughter who has a bf, I wouldn't care if they slept in the same bed just don't have sex and get my sheets dirty. TY

Sasy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The certificate does not dictate what bed you lay in and with whom, because if it did there would be a lot less divorce and cheating because of this magical piece of paper. They are not imposing a rule they are imposing Marriage, they are saying the relationship is not real until that happens, and if that is never going to happen if they actually never marry this relationship with the family will fade off completely, because this is ridiculous.

John Montgomery
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is her house, but the daughter feels not a reasonable rule. Therefore she shouldn't be surprised the daughter doesn't visit. The parent has to decide what's more important; and archaic tradition with no value, or seeing her daughter. I doubt this is the only reason the daughter doesn't visit. I'm guessing there were ridiculous rules. This was likely the last straw in a long line of things the daughter didn't like.

Alphabet Soupy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What’s keeping them from visiting the daughter at her place? How often do they visit her? This goes both ways!

Pauline Guien
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is she assuming they will get married?? not everyone in committed relationships find it necessary to wed, is she trying to force a wedding?

Seedy Vine
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mother tried this crap on me and my BF when we were adults. We've been married 30 years. We haven't seen her since.

Lily Mae Kitty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

what an idiot. people don't need to be married to be a real couple in a real relationship. They're adults. If they won't come to your house b/c they can't share a bed, too bad, so sad. This woman is so stupid that she thinks people can't control themselves and will be f*****g like bunnies under her roof?! Does she think sharing a bed means they HAVE to have sex every single time? If she were my mother, I'd stay away forever. You don't get to impose your out dated religious rules on grown ass adults. She's made her choice, time to shun her.

Seabeast
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if these parents would hold their son to the same rule?

Israel Martinez
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I didn't have to read too much of this to know she's a f*****g asshole ...

Kt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, have rules in your house. But dont complain that someone doesnt want to come visit you because they think the rules suck. At least theyre not just completely disregarding the rules and doing whatever they want in the house.

Linda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even when we were engaged we couldn't sleep in the same room at my in in-laws, this was last year and we were 29 and 27. Last time we stayed over we were allowed to stay in the same room (because we got married). They are very active in their faith and also hated that we were living together before marriage. But hey this was our choice... My mother-in-law treat's me 10x better than before we got married.

lol idk
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

comeon, there 25 and 26! they've been living together for 2 years, I bet they've slept together more than once. Let them be together.

Chucky Cheezburger
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with the parents.It goes against their values for an umarried couple to sleep together,and it is their home.Their values should be respected. I also agree with the daughters right to not visit her parants often. The parents made a choice ( to take a hard line on the rules) but there are consequences for that choice .The daughter has made a choice as well,but I don't think the consequences are discussed in the original reddit post.

Lemonclouds20
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So they've been together for a while so the relationship is probably quite steady. She should respect your rule it's literally a couple of nights not next to him. I do feel though you should back down and not drive a wedge between your daughter as it might be hard to keep a good mother daughter relationship going.

tomruns12
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Id never never see my parents if they didn't live in the same town as me. My sperm donor is an asshole who despite still being with my mother managed to not raise me or my siblings.

Wolfowl
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Who spends 3 months away from their parents?" Well first off ma'am I'm never talking to mine once I get out

Joanna
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This I’d have to admit is one of those ones that just make almost no sense to a logical person . Like it’s the same thing as those who complain And whine that their parents won’t let them “ rule the roast” when their teenagers and then when they don’t listen are kicked out . Which results in the teenager having a fit . Like if you don’t own / pay mortgage on a place that your staying at regardless of wether your visiting or renting then you have to comply with what the owners have put out or face being without a place to stay. Doesn’t matter the reason why doesn’t even have to be a reason for it . Either you can accept it like a big boy / girl or you can do the only other option and that’s to find somewhere else to stay

Kay Lee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can imagine what it'd been like when she used to live with her parents. Telling her that she's punishing them for not seeing them as often as they expect and being unreasonably rude really tells a lot about their personalities.

QuotedPrawn7490
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are my thoughts on the situation: If you are a Christin/Catholic family then the rule is 100% reasonable, as the Bible states something about marriage and sex and so do the Commandments (idk much about my own religion I'm not a fanatic nor am I atheist). Your daughter can do whatever she wants as a consenting adult, and it's understandable that a mother is worried for her daughter, yet anarkzie said it best: "your rules have consequences."

Gogamash
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I guess, once somebody is of legal age it s up to the person how to handle things.

Remy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This reminds me of a time my then-fiancé was invited on a trip with my family and me. My dad insisted that our hotel room have two beds, even though we had already been living together for over a year at that point. The funnier part was that it would've been about $60 less per night had he just entered the 21st century. However, I do think that the whole "my house, my rules" thing is to be respected. If the mom is uncomfortable with the unwed couple sharing a bed in her home, that's her prerogative and they should either follow the rule or stay elsewhere. There is never a reason to make someone uncomfortable just to get your own way for a few days. Plus if you start by respecting your possible in-laws from the start, you could find yourself forming a wonderful and beautiful bond that's filled with mutual respect.

Remy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'M TRYING TO DELETE ONE OF MY COMMENTS, BUT I CAN'T... I'M SORRY! I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY BOTH POSTED :(

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KK
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom is similar like whoever this lady is hear with her ridiculous rules for her literal adult daughter. Like, back off and let them do their business and allow them to live a happy life, unless [you] want to be the terrible nightmarish MIL.

E. Morgan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"You need to treat me like an adult living in this day and age!" Said the mother to her unwed daughter.

María Hermida
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her house, her rules. Right. But also my life, my rules. I respect your rules in your house. Respect my life and my decisions. Full stop.

DC
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh Jesus, take your silly rules and crucify them. The rules, not daughter and her BF. They're old enough, marriage isn't required for intercourse, and in a house inhabited by such parents, they likely could share their panties and still not do anything then and there - cos Daddy might come in her room any second, looking for a screwdriver he must have forgotten there. Alternatively, he might come inside to bring the screwdriver.

Toasty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no problem with this. both my Mom and mother in law instituted the same rule for my wife and I before we married. Yes, we both rolled our eyes at it, but it is their right to implement their rules in their house.

Lilith the Demon Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

sure it is their right but it's the daughter's right too to stay the hell outta that house... so then the parents have no right to complain

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Wendy Lam
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe her mom has a s & m dungeon? Next time, invite a dom, a few gals and guys for a few g******g! And cams!

Melanie Linehan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I look at it like this. Moms house, moms rules. If she doesn't like it, then go to a hotel. I have two young adult children, and I have no problem with them sleeping with their boyfriend or girlfriend under my roof. Now if I had an adult child and a young child, then my rules would be different, just not to send any confusing messages to the younger child.

Victoria Pitt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they are already living together I really don't see what difference it makes... But yea it seems to me the whole thing boils down to the mom not dealing well with the lack of control she now has over her adult daughter. She wants to maintain having power over her then she's sad when the daughter doesn't want to hang cause it's a bummer. My mom was/is like that a bit and I'm 38 lol If they are fighting over that issue, there are probably others issues too. Anyway, at 25, there were about a million other things I'd rather be doing than visiting my folks. That didn't really get important to me until in my 30s.

If I could I would live under water
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I disagree with most of the opinions here, I'll say it anyway. There seems to be a lot more problematic topics between mother and daughter because honestly, if my mom and I had a great relationship, and her only rule was to not sleep on the same bed with my bf when I'm visiting because of her believes (and she doesn't seem to have s problem with them living and sleeping together outside of her house), then I would just sleep in a different room than my bf for one night, what is the big deal? It's just one night. I'm guessing the daughter has a lot more problems with her mom, than we are told.

WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The simple fact that the mom doesn't object when her daughter sleeps with the boyfriend when they are at their own home immediately makes the mom and dad hypocrites and bigots. Their message is basically : "You can f**k around all you want, but not under my roof because I think that sex before marriage is bad.." Do they really think that their 25 year old daughter didn't have sex with her boyfriend?

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Dawn Berry
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny, reminds me of when my husband and I went to visit his Grandmother for a few days along with my in-laws, his mother (48) and soon to be step-father (50). Grandma had the same rules at her house. My husband and I slept in the same room. My in-laws had to sleep in different rooms. Wasn't a big deal, we all laughed about it, and it certainly didn't stop my in-laws from visiting.

Holly Stevens
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My parents are the same. The daughter would know what her parents expect, why would she think otherwise

Patty Leaton
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ha that's a good one you can't be with your child 24/7 she end up having sex with out tell her.

CatWoman312
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is my mom’s rules also. I’m from a conservative family and I’m personally against cohabitation before marriage. I guess one day I’ll possibly be in this same situation and I think I would likely suck it up just for the sake of making my child happy. Them sharing a bed while visiting isn’t a big deal, but I also can understand the moms point of view since I was raised the same way.

Nicole Weymann
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To me "no cohabitation/no sex before marriage" seems like 1) a recipe for nasty surprises in bed or out and 2) a poor incentive for a lifelong commitment. Guys, just REALLY get to know each other, habits and quirks, bathroom rituals and bedroom preferences, before you decide on "I do".

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Eslamala
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One can disagree with her views. I do. If it was my mom, I wouldn't stay at her house... But it's her house and she has the right to set her own rules...

Allen John
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My two cents: If I am staying at my parents' home, I will abide by their rules. If their rules are unreasonable, it will not stop me from visiting them. I might stay in hotel nearby and still visit my parents. In this case, I assume the daughter was brought up with these guidelines, so why break the rules and disrespect her parents now? So, my question actually is that why is the boyfriend staying at her parents' place if there are such rules. Either she didn't mention it to him, or he is hen pecked. He should go spend some money and book a room for himself. And if the daughter wants to spend the night with her boyfriend, she should go to his room that he paid for.

Lyone Fein
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's perfectly fine for the parents to have any rules they want in their own home. Why does the daughter have to bring her boyfriend when she visits? Why can't the two of them stay in a local motel (this is what actual adults would do)? There are other options besides the ones being considered so far by those involved. And I think that one or two visits a year is normal.

Hugo A-niro
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like the winner if that's the word is the boyfriend who still hasn't committed for whatever reasons. I don't understand that a 25 year old doesn't grasp that time is short and your mother has loved you all your life while this person you are living with has not. It's as simple as that leave him home and go see your mom . life is tenuous and the most important thing is not him or a difference ideas it's love . I am not saying you dont love him but he might not be permanent .your mom's love is .

Luis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did you ever heard the word "Respect"? That's what it is! The kids ( Even grown up) should respect their parents, especially when are grow up, and there is no other way for the parent to make them do what they want! Now your Dad or your Mom can't make you eat your vegetables, and it's the time, you have to eat them for your own will to show them respect!

Lilith the Demon Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

respect must go both ways... the mother is disrespecting their relationship... the daughter on the other hand is respecting that ridiculous rule - she is not sleeping with her boy in that house... she is not obligated to visit at all

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Bee Diaz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she is not married, then she should respect your house and your rules. I have the same rule. Boyfriends or girlfriends sleep in the guest room.

David
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only issue inhabr is the parents failure to teach their kids to respect other people and their wishes for behavior in their house. Kids don't give a crap these days unless they're getting what they want right now.

Mindy Keys
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mum's house, mum's rules. Child's choice to not stay at mum's house. No one is the a-hole, they just have two opposing values. No one is wrong.

Suzanne Metcalf
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i believe in no sex before marriage, but sleeping in the same bed doesnt mean sex, i sleep better when i sleep with someone (in a bed, again not sex) as i feel less alone. i can understand where the parents are coming from, but if the daughter doesnt want to visit as often cause of the rule, its her choice.

John Montgomery
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a good point. Unfortunately the parents who make these rules don't understand that. You know I wonder what that says about that generation. To assume one doesn't have self control. Does that mean in if they were in that situation they'd have to have sex with anyone if they slept in the same bed?

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backatya
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's her parents house and she must abide by their rules under their roof. I believe she said until she's married. The daughter should understand that. She shouldn't not visit her mom because of that later on.

Zina Monceaux
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Big deal If you can’t sleep in seperate rooms to please your parents for a few nights shame on you. Are you that attached that you can’t sleep apart?

Evelyn Haskins
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Perfectly appropriate and normal.Iit is the parents house and the parentrs rules,

lara
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is your home. Your daughter does not respect you or your husband. She is punishing you and she is acting like a child. This is an impossible situation for both of you, but the point is she is incapable of following the rules for just a short time. You have standards that you live by, she doesn't care, she wants you to give up your standards in order to be graced with her presence. I cannot see how her visiting you at any time is a blessing. And she does not see visiting you as anything important to her. This is now a "you can't make me."

Fixin'Ta
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a difficult dilemma for parents of faith who want to do the right thing both by their faith and by their daughter. If you don't share their faith of course you're not going to understand their point of view. I know extremely conservative Christian parents who probably wouldn't even speak to their kids who were living with someone outside of marriage. I also know wonderful, Christ-filled Christian parents who would continue the relationship and be loving toward their child's partner. But that doesn't mean they would find it easy to let the child and partner come into their home and sleep together if they're not married. It would feel like condoning a sin. It's a very difficult place for those parents to be in (as well as the kids), and I think if you're not a person of faith, or your faith doesn't believe sex outside of marriage to be wrong, you're not going to get this. I don't think it's entirely fair that people outside of the situation are passing judgment here.

Mockster
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it's your house it your rules and the daughter needs to respect that , if they don't like it they can get a room somewhere else or stay somewhere else but still keep visiting. You should not have to water down your beliefs if your kids dont like it and the same goes for the daughter if she wants to sleep with her boyfriend before marriage then she shouldn't have to water down what she thinks either . It come down to the daughter respecting her parents wished under there roof.

Thorfin Wolfsbane
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I was the mother, I wouldn't want my 25 year old daughter sleeping in a bed with my boyfriend either. That's just creepy, who does that?

blugeagua
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's not sleeping with the mom's boyfriend.... she's sleeping with her own boyfriend. Did you pay attention to this article at all?

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Nizumi
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Everybody's wrong here. Mom's being hypocritical in this because she knows her daughter and boyfriend are living together, and she has no problem with that, but suddenly under her roof, it becomes a problem?! And the daughter and boyfriend are being jerks because it's, what, four or five nights a year they'll be sked to sleep apart? Whoopdee. Wait 20 years - no matter how much you love someone - at some point there will be a night when the snoring gets to you, or your restless leg syndrome is acting up - and you will love to sleep in separate beds on those nights.

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Ben Moss
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25?!? Yeah no, this mother is a piece of s**t. She needs to die so her sane, loving child can inherent the actual good things her crazy bitch mom could possibly pass on to her.

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Shelp
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They're not dating, they've been together for three years. At this point, they've already spent more time together than some married people

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Esh. Both of you are being selfish. You are saying that you would rather her not visit. She is not visiting because of it. You are bith acting like childs if you don' t get your way. Esh.

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I Agree with the Parents. The Daughter Should have learned by now Sex before marriage is wrong regardless where is it being done at home with Mom and Dad or in a Hotel. They should not even be living together. I get that people think it is ok now because people say times have changed. Times have only changed because people started slipping on enforcing the rules. Call me old school but I think they need to get married if they have been dating for more than 3 years and living together. By not getting married and living together it only hurts what marriage stands for. People wonder what the point of getting married anymore because if they can do the same thing married people can there is no point to marriage and this is so wrong. It is not what GOD wants and not what he planned for marriage. People are to lazy to do the right thing anymore. They feel if they can play house with out getting married it makes it easier if they decide to break up less mess in the court. So Wrong.

Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I personally think the no sex or living together before marriage is a terrible idea. You need to know if you have sexual chemistry or know of you can live with the person before getting married. You don't really know a person or their habits properly until you live with them. And you need sexual chemistry/compatibility therwise you could be stuck in a miserable relationship with crappy sex for the rest of your life. coz divorce is also wrong in the eyes of God. Not really a nice sounding kind of life. Why would a supposed loving God want you to live your life in misery.

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anarkzie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think it's a right or wrong situation, you have your rules but your rules have consequences. If you're not comfortable with your daughter sleeping with her partner in your house then you need to accept that she will not visit you as much.

Wilf
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't imagine what it would be like to value some outdated religious dogma over a strong and loving relationship with your own daughter. How sad that this woman cannot recognise what she is doing to the relationship with her daughter.

beckster308
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And we're not even talking about someone who's 18 or 19. We're talking about someone well into adulthood. It's even worse.

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Katrina B.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The whole "who waits three months between seeing their parents" is ridiculous. Before covid, I saw my parents.... twice a year. I can't really afford to travel and didn't have a ton of vacation time. Which is true for most younger people.

Boredzzz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be completely embarrased to visit my parents if I thought they'd be this preoccupied with my sex life. Very creepy.

Marianne
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They do realize that their daughter shares a bed with her partner in their shared appartment? I fail to see the point in the parents' house rule.

Ozacoter
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had that too with my grandmas. I live with my partner for 4 years but when we visit my family they offer him to stay with them in the guest room so we dont sleep together (i dont stay at my parents and book an airbnb to avoid my abusive father but thats a different issue). I always wonder if they think that we sleep in two rooms in our home.

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howdylee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if they never get married? Plenty of couples stay together long term but never marry.

Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. Nowadays marriage is not the norm anymore in some places. Depends usually of the laws of the country. In Spain being a registered couple brings you 0 benefits whole being married does so a lot of young people marry in civilian weddings. In Belgium for example being a registered couple is basically the same as being married so a lot of young people never marry.

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kjorn
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

same thing happen to my wife and i many years ago. we were living in another city but came back for christmas. her father didn't want us to sleep in the same room. my wife made i quite clear that if i wasn't allow to sleep in the same room we wouldn't be there... like we would have sex while her parent were in the room in the other side of the wall.

Viviane
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, did her father have sex strictly for reproduction? "I've been celibate since before you were born, you two can be celibate for a night or two." What an odd duck.

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blugeagua
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What I don't understand is the mother insisting that they can only sleep in the same bed at their house until after their married. But what difference does it make when they're ALREADY living together and sharing a bed together? They're already sharing a bed at their own house, so what the hell is signing some documents going to change? That mother and father are ridiculous and just plain weird.

Rainy Day Wolf
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she's punishing her for not following their religious traditions... the daughter might not even want to get married and this lady is ok with losing her daughter over that...

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are both in the right. It is their house, their rules but it's also up to the daughter whether she wants to put up with the rules or not. The mother just has to deal with the fact that the daughter doesn't see them more often coz she doesn't agree with the rules. Doesn't mean she doesn't respect the rules coz they do follow them when they stay.

Eslamala
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the same thing as visiting people who don't drink alcohol or eat meat. You can go and respect that, or not go. It's very simple, actually. I once had a friend who told me I shouldn't smoke in my house when she visits. I told her I would, only if she hid her dogs when I visit her, cause I hate dogs. She got mad and started ranting. The audacity!

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Terilee Bruyere
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your house, your rules. But playing the victim when your daughter doesn't visit you as often as you expect is just ridicules.

Uber Mensch
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to wonder how many times Mom said some variation of "grow up" while daughter was a child - and is now upset that daughter went and did just that.

François Carré
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry if I sound rude : the bare truth of that is parents feeling unable to overcome the idea of their ADULT childs having sex. Call it what you will, but insisting on marriage (i.e religious union) as the only way to make it acceptable seems extremely regressive, and this lady might need a good psychoanalysis rather than leading her daughter to the church.

Ron Santos
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A marriage by a judge/justice of the peace is just a legal as a “church wedding.” Watch heads explode in Mom & Dad’s house. 🤯😁

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Jessica Bertram
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the underlying issue here that no one else seems to commenting on is the level of demand that woman is placing on her daughter and son. If she wants to see them more often, SHE should go to THEM. it's as if their busy lives and new family units don't exist. Mom here is acting like she is the center of this family, and fails to realize her children (or, at least the daughter) are ACTIVELY untying the apron strings and stepping away. Her overbearing nature is not new, it is not healthy, and my suspicion is the adult daughter is already coping with emotional trauma from digging herself out from under all that overbearing mom attention for her past 25 years. Pulling away was probably a necessary mental health choice for her. Mom is narcissistic and fails to grasp the harm she is causing.

Karin Jansen
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't wait to see what happens when mom finally does decide to visit her daughter. Would mom be OK with daughter enforcing she sleep in a seperate room from dad, just because "daughter's house, daughter's rules"?

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Aunt Messy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She CHOSE to alienate her daughter and now she's whining because it worked. Got it. It won't be long before the daughter cuts all contact with this bitchy nut case of a mother.

troufaki13
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So in my understanding, the problem is that she doesn't want them sleeping together in her house, right? Because obviously in their house they do and I'm assuming she's aware of that?

Sophia Graubart
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yes thats right. she says she knows they have been co-habiting for 2 years, and i assume that was at least mostly done in the same bed

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Cassie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This article misses the discussion where people wondered why the sole responsibility of visits was on the daughter rather than shared.

Deborah B
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about recognising and respecting that she is an adult, who has a right to have her relationship and bodily autonomy respected? Her relationship, her rules. I.e. Sex before marriage is just fine.

beckster308
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some really good wisdom in these comments. I grew up with parents who were the same way. I was still living at home (21F) at their insistence when my bf (24M) got stuck at our house during an ice storm. They were so worried what the neighbors would think if they saw his car there overnight, they made him drive home in an ice storm--through the mountains two counties over! I married him that year just to get out of there.

Don't Look
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At this point, a couple of parents telling their grown child something like that is a moot point. You don't want them at your house unmarried, then get over it when they find a work around.

AzKhaleesi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to know if you slept with your hubby prior to marriage. And I could understand if they were in their late teens and just got together but my gosh they have lived together for TWO years and in their mid 20's which leads me to believe they will be husband and wife one day. And for sake of argument, let's say they don't. But remain together? What if they never get married? come on.

Baby Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this is stupid, i mean i understand having house rules but like she's 25, she's a grown woman, and they aren't even having sex, they're just sleeping next to each other, this mother is treating her daughter like a 14 year old!

Piet Puk
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe your rules are a bit dumb and you should re-evaluate why you have them?

tomruns12
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Karen need to decide if forcing her religious views on her daughter is worth destroying her relationship with her daughter.

Johnny
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My ex's parents had the same rule, even after we were dating for over 5 years and living together. We still respected it though. We only went home to her parents house once a year during Thanksgiving or Christmas when the house was so full of family that anything other than sleeping would have been out of the question (though we did manage to find some "special together time" in the car outside the house). My ex was willing to go along with the rule to prevent causing holiday stress. When the parents came to visit us, then we slept together as usual, the "no sleeping together before marriage" rule only applied in their house. One funny thing is that we went on an overseas trip with her parents once, they booked our hotel room... with 2 single beds! Which we just pushed together and night, and pulled apart in the morning.

Chich
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had a friend whose father pulled this "Not while you are under my roof" trip. He was in his 20s but had to sleep in separate rooms when visiting with his long term girlfriend. Well wouldn't ya know it. Several years down the road his parents divorced and his dad came to visit with his new girlfriend. 60 something years old and my buddy made him sleep on the couch while his girlfriend got the spare bedroom. Said it was great and the girlfriend got the biggest laugh out of it.

Natalie Kudryashova
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The rule itself is actually wrong too. Your house is not above law and human rights. You can set the rule that people need to take off shoes or wash hands, whatever, but not rules that cross personal boundaries. How would this mum feel if she and her husband went to stay at her daughter’s and were told to sleep in separate beds? I’ve been in the same situation at the hands of my boyfriend’s mother, and it makes you feel unwelcome and openly insulted when you get shown to a separate bedroom even though you live together with the man. Every time we go to visit them it’s a lot of stress for me and feels super uncomfortable.

YA NA
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If my parents were like her, I wouldn't wanna visit much either. I thought at first her daughter was maybe 16, 18 with a new boyfriend, but in their mid 20s and living together.... I don't blame the daughter one bit.

WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you know and have no problem with the fact that your daughter is living together with her boyfriend, you're quite a bigot when you have a rule "No sleeping together before marriage under my roof." Perhaps the daughter doesn't like to hang out with bigots.

Thalia Lovering
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your house, your rule, your problem if your daughter decides not to visit you anymore. But, if I were you, I would seek help. You don't sound like a very stable and mentally healthy person.

David Beaulieu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm always amazed at the number of people that do not understand that actions (even those that are moral/justified in their eyes) have ramifications. Action=reaction. Your 25 year old child does not owe you a visit unless there is some agreement, social or otherwise. And just an FYI, your kid might just not like you very much. But you should be proud of them for respecting your wishes and following your 'rules'.

Samantha Lomb
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother's now in-laws did this and their relationship still hasn't recovered. Particularly as they did not enforce the rule with the sister's boyfriend who they clearly liked better. I think it is a stupid thing to do

sofacushionfort
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why bother? Even if you don't let your adult children sleep with their significant others under your roof, you'll never come close to evening up the number of times they killed mommy & daddy nookies when they were little.

Matt Du
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blugeagua
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's so dumb since she states they're already living together so they already share a bed.

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kath morgan
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She’s the arsehole. The mother has it backwards; she is choosing her rule over seeing her daughter as much as she would like.

MagNat
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It would be funny if they have children and don't get married. Imagine the grandparents explaining to the grandchildren that mommy and daddy have to sleep in separate rooms because they are not married.

Brandi VanSteenwyk
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of the biggest lessons you can teach your children is to be non-judgemental. And one of the best ways to teach it is BY EXAMPLE. This mother is judging her adult child's choices. Not a good way to maintain a good relationship.

Deanna Crichley
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What would happen if they decided to have a child without being married? Would that rule still hold? Would they still try to enforce it if it meant the couple wouldn't visit as often WITH their grandchild?

Laura Dawson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she was under the age of 18 - yeah I'd be like no your boyfriend can't stay in your room. Maybe even under 21 as that's still super young & it's weird even if you try not to make it weird cause ultimately you know your young adult kid could be having sex down the hall. It's not the sleeping in the same bed if all they did was sleep, it's the chances they will have sex that freaks a lot of parents out. However - in this situation - she's 25 & her boyf. is 26. She's a grown woman. I wouldn't have an issue with it at all. The mother is being unreasonable. She sounds controlling & I wonder if she would enforce this rule on her son if he brought around his girlfriend. She sounds as if the son is her favourite out of her kids & by doing this, it's pushing her daughter away. Sooner or later, she won't have to moan about her daughter not visiting every few months as there won't be a relationship left if she continues on like this. Treat your daughter like a responsible adult.

Aria Whitaker
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agree with most of this, but I do think if you are in your 20's AT ALL, it is kind of dumb to enforce this. So, as a "young adult kid" they can vote for the leader of the country, go to war and kill random humans, smoke cigarettes...but cant sleep in the bed with a boyfriend? THAT is where the line is drawn? LOL... They are just too young for that, despite being about to carry a military grade weapon or smoke? That just sounds SO silly.

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Franc Esca
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's fine if it's ger rule, doesn't mean the daughter is staying over.

somnomania
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i will never understand religious notions that mean that your adult offspring living on their own and being in a consenting relationship that presumably includes sex is okay, but when they specifically visit you in your house it's not okay for the adult offspring and their partner to share a bed because they're not bound by a symbolic and arguably archaic ceremony yet? like, what? they're probably not even going to have sex in that bed because who wants to have sex with their parents in the house. just let your adult kids live their lives and stop trying to force them to comply with your way of thinking.

StrawberryParfait
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents need not think about what their grown children do with their genitals.

elfin
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds as though this worked out so both sides got what they wanted. Mom didn't want the two sleeping together in her house and they agreed. Daughter wanted to share a bed with her boyfriend and she gets to do that. Hard to see why Mom is complaining when she got exactly what she asked for.

Fact Perils
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's literally 25 in a committed relationship. Not everyone wants to get married. And the mother should definitely not be upset about them not wanting to visit. Disrespecting the rules would be sleeping together under your roof, respecting the rules is not going under the mother's roof because you don't like the rules.

Jessica
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She doesn't live with you it's not your business. Of course she's not going to come over your disrespectful of their relationship because you think that marriage is the only thing that validates a relationship. The way they are trying to control their independent adult daughter when she visits it's a f****n wonder she visits at all

Jo Choto
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They can have any rules for their house they want, but that means they exclude the daughter and partner from living their normal lives while visiting. I suspect that there's many more reasons why the couple doesn't want to spend time the parents though. They sound extremely self-righteous and obnoxious.

Random Anon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry to say this but the parents are being too entitled. It shows that these people hasn't learn the simple rule or "you reap what you sow". I'm not trying to be mean to them for their believes here. I think the daughter is already compromising here by still visiting despite clearly being put in an uncomfortable situation. But these parents feel it isn't enough despite these self-imposed limitations. Are they expecting their daughter to bend over backwards to conform to their expectations?

Ron Santos
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is there anything stopping the daughter from saying, “ The guest room sounds great! We’ll be extra comfy in there.” 🤪

Joanne Piper
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your house your rules but those rules will not get you very far. This will not force them into marriage until they are ready and clearly they don't agree with your moral stance.All you are doing is showing your displeasure which your doughter and her man are well aware of and probably makes them uncomfortable, which is probably your goal. At this point you are not protecting her or your son or yourself from anything as it's all out in the open, your daughter has a sex life. It will not make you closer either. You must decide is your rule worth it for you. If it is you will see less of your daughter, she has picked her man.

Max
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was allowed to share a bed with my partner from when I got my first partner at 17. I'm almost thirty now and nothing dire has happened.

Todd Hunter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This lady should get a doll, if she want's to control something she can buy it pretty dresses and not let it sleep with it's clearly serious partner.

SrLongBeach
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My fiancée and I were spending New Years Eve with her best friend and her family. Same rule, I could either bunk with her BFF's brothers or I could have the couch ( I chose couch). The only difference is her BFF's parents were super cool, treated me like I was part of their family since day one and I enjoyed spending time at their house! Hell, I'd go hang out with them on my own some times! But the point is, it's not an inconvenience to not sleep next to my partner when everyone else is not insufferable.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course she can make any crazy rules she wants but everybody who is not living in her house, has equal right to not visit if those rules for example violates their rights to choose if they want to sleep in the same room with their spouse. To me this sounds like a mother who just wants to control her adult children and it doesn't have anything to do with their beliefs, because it seems that the daughter didn't expect this rule. Your children are not your property, people!

Steve
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No problem! Next time come by with 3 girlfriends and have an orgy in the living room

Ragnhild Nilsen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After having lived together for years, don't you think that what _could_ happen between two concenting adults, has already happened?

HooowlAtTheMoon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ridiculous. YTA. Your daughter and her boyfriend are adults now, they can believe and do what they please, they don't have to do every little thing you want them to. If they sleep in the same bed at wherever they live, they should be allowed to at your house aswell. (tl;dr: i agree with the brother, its not a big deal to let them sleep together. just let them do what they want.)

jo.walter051911@gmail.com
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I married my husband, I had moved into his family home about 3 months prior to the wedding AND was already pregnant and I still slept in the guestroom of his parents home (as per their wishes) until after the wedding. It wasn't hard to understand their position on it as they are Christian and it was a blessing they took me in at all after my parents threw me out (in Florida) and I had no where to go when I got to California (where my husband lived at the time). We still slept together after moving in, and we still had sex (hello, already pregnant), but at bedtime, we had separate rooms. We just did all the things when his parents weren't around, so we weren't flaunting that against their beliefs to the best extent possible. I don't think his parents were unreasonable in doing this, and when my husband did eventually meet my parents, my mom didn't care where he slept, so we shared a room. "Damage was already done" as she put it... #eyeroll

M O'Connell
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to wonder if parents like this are just being spiteful for having been forced to live in such arrangements when they began their own relationships. Being SO conservative doesn't seem like it has any measurable benefits anyway.

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JP
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I notice mom doesn't say anything about visiting the daughter...only the daughter visiting her. One-way street all the way, huh? SMH

Craig Reynolds
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your house, your rules but I have to ask, if this was an unmarried couple you have been friends with for years (not family) would you impose the same rule on them? If yes, then all is fine but if NO, then I believe some further introspection on the double standard is in order.

Donna Leske
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is no mention of her parents traveling to come and visit the young couple - or would it be a visit to be with the daughter and ignore the bf? Would parents sleep over at their place or expect the 'sinners' to sleep separately for the entire visit?

Janet C
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This happened to me. My future husband and I were living together -- for over a year -- when we planned a visit to my parents. We were told we'd have to sleep separately. Mom's house/mom's rules but we chose not to go.

CincyReds
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom did the same thing.... What is marriage? A piece of paper? Now my daughter and her boyfriend, come to vist, they can sleep in the same bed, I don't care! they love each other, and I doubt very seriously they are doing anything but sleeping, she said it would just be wierd.

Caroline Driver
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just waiting for the blaming of Satan for her daughter's sinful ways...

Valerie Zinn
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The daughter is living with her boyfriend for 2 years. Mom needs to get over it. She’s lucky the daughter visits at all.

fu yu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother is lucky she has a mature daughter. Some people would actually be offended by the mother's request.

Anna Repp
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I married against my parents wishes, and we lived together with my husband for 2-3 years till we came to visit my parents together. My mom was very concerned about us sleeping together. I said - regardless of whether you like him or not, we are officially married and have been sleeping in the same bed even before we got married. We are not breaking our habits because you feel weird about them. We would love to stay at your place, but we sleep in the same bed, or if that bothers you, we do not stay at your place and book a hotel.

Joshua Brenneman
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn't the 1950s. Let your daughter be. There's literally no moral or ethical point at for waiting till marriage, especially when this isn't even sex. It's just sharing a room.

luvdemhogs
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a father of a daughter who has a bf, I wouldn't care if they slept in the same bed just don't have sex and get my sheets dirty. TY

Sasy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The certificate does not dictate what bed you lay in and with whom, because if it did there would be a lot less divorce and cheating because of this magical piece of paper. They are not imposing a rule they are imposing Marriage, they are saying the relationship is not real until that happens, and if that is never going to happen if they actually never marry this relationship with the family will fade off completely, because this is ridiculous.

John Montgomery
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is her house, but the daughter feels not a reasonable rule. Therefore she shouldn't be surprised the daughter doesn't visit. The parent has to decide what's more important; and archaic tradition with no value, or seeing her daughter. I doubt this is the only reason the daughter doesn't visit. I'm guessing there were ridiculous rules. This was likely the last straw in a long line of things the daughter didn't like.

Alphabet Soupy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What’s keeping them from visiting the daughter at her place? How often do they visit her? This goes both ways!

Pauline Guien
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is she assuming they will get married?? not everyone in committed relationships find it necessary to wed, is she trying to force a wedding?

Seedy Vine
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mother tried this crap on me and my BF when we were adults. We've been married 30 years. We haven't seen her since.

Lily Mae Kitty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

what an idiot. people don't need to be married to be a real couple in a real relationship. They're adults. If they won't come to your house b/c they can't share a bed, too bad, so sad. This woman is so stupid that she thinks people can't control themselves and will be f*****g like bunnies under her roof?! Does she think sharing a bed means they HAVE to have sex every single time? If she were my mother, I'd stay away forever. You don't get to impose your out dated religious rules on grown ass adults. She's made her choice, time to shun her.

Seabeast
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if these parents would hold their son to the same rule?

Israel Martinez
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I didn't have to read too much of this to know she's a f*****g asshole ...

Kt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, have rules in your house. But dont complain that someone doesnt want to come visit you because they think the rules suck. At least theyre not just completely disregarding the rules and doing whatever they want in the house.

Linda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even when we were engaged we couldn't sleep in the same room at my in in-laws, this was last year and we were 29 and 27. Last time we stayed over we were allowed to stay in the same room (because we got married). They are very active in their faith and also hated that we were living together before marriage. But hey this was our choice... My mother-in-law treat's me 10x better than before we got married.

lol idk
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

comeon, there 25 and 26! they've been living together for 2 years, I bet they've slept together more than once. Let them be together.

Chucky Cheezburger
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with the parents.It goes against their values for an umarried couple to sleep together,and it is their home.Their values should be respected. I also agree with the daughters right to not visit her parants often. The parents made a choice ( to take a hard line on the rules) but there are consequences for that choice .The daughter has made a choice as well,but I don't think the consequences are discussed in the original reddit post.

Lemonclouds20
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So they've been together for a while so the relationship is probably quite steady. She should respect your rule it's literally a couple of nights not next to him. I do feel though you should back down and not drive a wedge between your daughter as it might be hard to keep a good mother daughter relationship going.

tomruns12
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Id never never see my parents if they didn't live in the same town as me. My sperm donor is an asshole who despite still being with my mother managed to not raise me or my siblings.

Wolfowl
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Who spends 3 months away from their parents?" Well first off ma'am I'm never talking to mine once I get out

Joanna
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This I’d have to admit is one of those ones that just make almost no sense to a logical person . Like it’s the same thing as those who complain And whine that their parents won’t let them “ rule the roast” when their teenagers and then when they don’t listen are kicked out . Which results in the teenager having a fit . Like if you don’t own / pay mortgage on a place that your staying at regardless of wether your visiting or renting then you have to comply with what the owners have put out or face being without a place to stay. Doesn’t matter the reason why doesn’t even have to be a reason for it . Either you can accept it like a big boy / girl or you can do the only other option and that’s to find somewhere else to stay

Kay Lee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can imagine what it'd been like when she used to live with her parents. Telling her that she's punishing them for not seeing them as often as they expect and being unreasonably rude really tells a lot about their personalities.

QuotedPrawn7490
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are my thoughts on the situation: If you are a Christin/Catholic family then the rule is 100% reasonable, as the Bible states something about marriage and sex and so do the Commandments (idk much about my own religion I'm not a fanatic nor am I atheist). Your daughter can do whatever she wants as a consenting adult, and it's understandable that a mother is worried for her daughter, yet anarkzie said it best: "your rules have consequences."

Gogamash
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I guess, once somebody is of legal age it s up to the person how to handle things.

Remy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This reminds me of a time my then-fiancé was invited on a trip with my family and me. My dad insisted that our hotel room have two beds, even though we had already been living together for over a year at that point. The funnier part was that it would've been about $60 less per night had he just entered the 21st century. However, I do think that the whole "my house, my rules" thing is to be respected. If the mom is uncomfortable with the unwed couple sharing a bed in her home, that's her prerogative and they should either follow the rule or stay elsewhere. There is never a reason to make someone uncomfortable just to get your own way for a few days. Plus if you start by respecting your possible in-laws from the start, you could find yourself forming a wonderful and beautiful bond that's filled with mutual respect.

Remy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'M TRYING TO DELETE ONE OF MY COMMENTS, BUT I CAN'T... I'M SORRY! I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY BOTH POSTED :(

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KK
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom is similar like whoever this lady is hear with her ridiculous rules for her literal adult daughter. Like, back off and let them do their business and allow them to live a happy life, unless [you] want to be the terrible nightmarish MIL.

E. Morgan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"You need to treat me like an adult living in this day and age!" Said the mother to her unwed daughter.

María Hermida
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her house, her rules. Right. But also my life, my rules. I respect your rules in your house. Respect my life and my decisions. Full stop.

DC
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh Jesus, take your silly rules and crucify them. The rules, not daughter and her BF. They're old enough, marriage isn't required for intercourse, and in a house inhabited by such parents, they likely could share their panties and still not do anything then and there - cos Daddy might come in her room any second, looking for a screwdriver he must have forgotten there. Alternatively, he might come inside to bring the screwdriver.

Toasty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no problem with this. both my Mom and mother in law instituted the same rule for my wife and I before we married. Yes, we both rolled our eyes at it, but it is their right to implement their rules in their house.

Lilith the Demon Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

sure it is their right but it's the daughter's right too to stay the hell outta that house... so then the parents have no right to complain

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Wendy Lam
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe her mom has a s & m dungeon? Next time, invite a dom, a few gals and guys for a few g******g! And cams!

Melanie Linehan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I look at it like this. Moms house, moms rules. If she doesn't like it, then go to a hotel. I have two young adult children, and I have no problem with them sleeping with their boyfriend or girlfriend under my roof. Now if I had an adult child and a young child, then my rules would be different, just not to send any confusing messages to the younger child.

Victoria Pitt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they are already living together I really don't see what difference it makes... But yea it seems to me the whole thing boils down to the mom not dealing well with the lack of control she now has over her adult daughter. She wants to maintain having power over her then she's sad when the daughter doesn't want to hang cause it's a bummer. My mom was/is like that a bit and I'm 38 lol If they are fighting over that issue, there are probably others issues too. Anyway, at 25, there were about a million other things I'd rather be doing than visiting my folks. That didn't really get important to me until in my 30s.

If I could I would live under water
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I disagree with most of the opinions here, I'll say it anyway. There seems to be a lot more problematic topics between mother and daughter because honestly, if my mom and I had a great relationship, and her only rule was to not sleep on the same bed with my bf when I'm visiting because of her believes (and she doesn't seem to have s problem with them living and sleeping together outside of her house), then I would just sleep in a different room than my bf for one night, what is the big deal? It's just one night. I'm guessing the daughter has a lot more problems with her mom, than we are told.

WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The simple fact that the mom doesn't object when her daughter sleeps with the boyfriend when they are at their own home immediately makes the mom and dad hypocrites and bigots. Their message is basically : "You can f**k around all you want, but not under my roof because I think that sex before marriage is bad.." Do they really think that their 25 year old daughter didn't have sex with her boyfriend?

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Dawn Berry
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny, reminds me of when my husband and I went to visit his Grandmother for a few days along with my in-laws, his mother (48) and soon to be step-father (50). Grandma had the same rules at her house. My husband and I slept in the same room. My in-laws had to sleep in different rooms. Wasn't a big deal, we all laughed about it, and it certainly didn't stop my in-laws from visiting.

Holly Stevens
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My parents are the same. The daughter would know what her parents expect, why would she think otherwise

Patty Leaton
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ha that's a good one you can't be with your child 24/7 she end up having sex with out tell her.

CatWoman312
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is my mom’s rules also. I’m from a conservative family and I’m personally against cohabitation before marriage. I guess one day I’ll possibly be in this same situation and I think I would likely suck it up just for the sake of making my child happy. Them sharing a bed while visiting isn’t a big deal, but I also can understand the moms point of view since I was raised the same way.

Nicole Weymann
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To me "no cohabitation/no sex before marriage" seems like 1) a recipe for nasty surprises in bed or out and 2) a poor incentive for a lifelong commitment. Guys, just REALLY get to know each other, habits and quirks, bathroom rituals and bedroom preferences, before you decide on "I do".

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Eslamala
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One can disagree with her views. I do. If it was my mom, I wouldn't stay at her house... But it's her house and she has the right to set her own rules...

Allen John
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My two cents: If I am staying at my parents' home, I will abide by their rules. If their rules are unreasonable, it will not stop me from visiting them. I might stay in hotel nearby and still visit my parents. In this case, I assume the daughter was brought up with these guidelines, so why break the rules and disrespect her parents now? So, my question actually is that why is the boyfriend staying at her parents' place if there are such rules. Either she didn't mention it to him, or he is hen pecked. He should go spend some money and book a room for himself. And if the daughter wants to spend the night with her boyfriend, she should go to his room that he paid for.

Lyone Fein
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's perfectly fine for the parents to have any rules they want in their own home. Why does the daughter have to bring her boyfriend when she visits? Why can't the two of them stay in a local motel (this is what actual adults would do)? There are other options besides the ones being considered so far by those involved. And I think that one or two visits a year is normal.

Hugo A-niro
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like the winner if that's the word is the boyfriend who still hasn't committed for whatever reasons. I don't understand that a 25 year old doesn't grasp that time is short and your mother has loved you all your life while this person you are living with has not. It's as simple as that leave him home and go see your mom . life is tenuous and the most important thing is not him or a difference ideas it's love . I am not saying you dont love him but he might not be permanent .your mom's love is .

Luis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did you ever heard the word "Respect"? That's what it is! The kids ( Even grown up) should respect their parents, especially when are grow up, and there is no other way for the parent to make them do what they want! Now your Dad or your Mom can't make you eat your vegetables, and it's the time, you have to eat them for your own will to show them respect!

Lilith the Demon Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

respect must go both ways... the mother is disrespecting their relationship... the daughter on the other hand is respecting that ridiculous rule - she is not sleeping with her boy in that house... she is not obligated to visit at all

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Bee Diaz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she is not married, then she should respect your house and your rules. I have the same rule. Boyfriends or girlfriends sleep in the guest room.

David
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only issue inhabr is the parents failure to teach their kids to respect other people and their wishes for behavior in their house. Kids don't give a crap these days unless they're getting what they want right now.

Mindy Keys
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mum's house, mum's rules. Child's choice to not stay at mum's house. No one is the a-hole, they just have two opposing values. No one is wrong.

Suzanne Metcalf
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i believe in no sex before marriage, but sleeping in the same bed doesnt mean sex, i sleep better when i sleep with someone (in a bed, again not sex) as i feel less alone. i can understand where the parents are coming from, but if the daughter doesnt want to visit as often cause of the rule, its her choice.

John Montgomery
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a good point. Unfortunately the parents who make these rules don't understand that. You know I wonder what that says about that generation. To assume one doesn't have self control. Does that mean in if they were in that situation they'd have to have sex with anyone if they slept in the same bed?

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backatya
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's her parents house and she must abide by their rules under their roof. I believe she said until she's married. The daughter should understand that. She shouldn't not visit her mom because of that later on.

Zina Monceaux
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Big deal If you can’t sleep in seperate rooms to please your parents for a few nights shame on you. Are you that attached that you can’t sleep apart?

Evelyn Haskins
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Perfectly appropriate and normal.Iit is the parents house and the parentrs rules,

lara
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is your home. Your daughter does not respect you or your husband. She is punishing you and she is acting like a child. This is an impossible situation for both of you, but the point is she is incapable of following the rules for just a short time. You have standards that you live by, she doesn't care, she wants you to give up your standards in order to be graced with her presence. I cannot see how her visiting you at any time is a blessing. And she does not see visiting you as anything important to her. This is now a "you can't make me."

Fixin'Ta
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a difficult dilemma for parents of faith who want to do the right thing both by their faith and by their daughter. If you don't share their faith of course you're not going to understand their point of view. I know extremely conservative Christian parents who probably wouldn't even speak to their kids who were living with someone outside of marriage. I also know wonderful, Christ-filled Christian parents who would continue the relationship and be loving toward their child's partner. But that doesn't mean they would find it easy to let the child and partner come into their home and sleep together if they're not married. It would feel like condoning a sin. It's a very difficult place for those parents to be in (as well as the kids), and I think if you're not a person of faith, or your faith doesn't believe sex outside of marriage to be wrong, you're not going to get this. I don't think it's entirely fair that people outside of the situation are passing judgment here.

Mockster
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it's your house it your rules and the daughter needs to respect that , if they don't like it they can get a room somewhere else or stay somewhere else but still keep visiting. You should not have to water down your beliefs if your kids dont like it and the same goes for the daughter if she wants to sleep with her boyfriend before marriage then she shouldn't have to water down what she thinks either . It come down to the daughter respecting her parents wished under there roof.

Thorfin Wolfsbane
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I was the mother, I wouldn't want my 25 year old daughter sleeping in a bed with my boyfriend either. That's just creepy, who does that?

blugeagua
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's not sleeping with the mom's boyfriend.... she's sleeping with her own boyfriend. Did you pay attention to this article at all?

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Nizumi
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Everybody's wrong here. Mom's being hypocritical in this because she knows her daughter and boyfriend are living together, and she has no problem with that, but suddenly under her roof, it becomes a problem?! And the daughter and boyfriend are being jerks because it's, what, four or five nights a year they'll be sked to sleep apart? Whoopdee. Wait 20 years - no matter how much you love someone - at some point there will be a night when the snoring gets to you, or your restless leg syndrome is acting up - and you will love to sleep in separate beds on those nights.

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Ben Moss
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25?!? Yeah no, this mother is a piece of s**t. She needs to die so her sane, loving child can inherent the actual good things her crazy bitch mom could possibly pass on to her.

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Shelp
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They're not dating, they've been together for three years. At this point, they've already spent more time together than some married people

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Max Thompson
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Esh. Both of you are being selfish. You are saying that you would rather her not visit. She is not visiting because of it. You are bith acting like childs if you don' t get your way. Esh.

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I Agree with the Parents. The Daughter Should have learned by now Sex before marriage is wrong regardless where is it being done at home with Mom and Dad or in a Hotel. They should not even be living together. I get that people think it is ok now because people say times have changed. Times have only changed because people started slipping on enforcing the rules. Call me old school but I think they need to get married if they have been dating for more than 3 years and living together. By not getting married and living together it only hurts what marriage stands for. People wonder what the point of getting married anymore because if they can do the same thing married people can there is no point to marriage and this is so wrong. It is not what GOD wants and not what he planned for marriage. People are to lazy to do the right thing anymore. They feel if they can play house with out getting married it makes it easier if they decide to break up less mess in the court. So Wrong.

Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I personally think the no sex or living together before marriage is a terrible idea. You need to know if you have sexual chemistry or know of you can live with the person before getting married. You don't really know a person or their habits properly until you live with them. And you need sexual chemistry/compatibility therwise you could be stuck in a miserable relationship with crappy sex for the rest of your life. coz divorce is also wrong in the eyes of God. Not really a nice sounding kind of life. Why would a supposed loving God want you to live your life in misery.

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