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Mom Barely Allows Her 9 Y.O. Attend A Sleepover, Loses It Over ‘Birthday Drinks’ She Was Served
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Mom Barely Allows Her 9 Y.O. Attend A Sleepover, Loses It Over ‘Birthday Drinks’ She Was Served

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Kids nowadays seem to be maturing and growing up way faster than previous generations. 8-year-olds today are seen in Sephora replenishing their 5-step skincare routines, selling out Stanley cups, and dressing like teenagers all over social media. Sure, most of us wanted to act like adults when we were kids but many parents are worried that children these days are taking it to another level. 

One mom recently shared her worries about her child being adultified at a sleepover where the kids were served cocktail-looking drinks. She desperately wanted her child to cherish her childhood instead of rushing into adulthood. However, her anxieties were met with commenters who told her that she was being quite uptight.

It can be bittersweet watching your child grow up

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This mom wanted her kid to enjoy childhood as long as possible, so when she saw her being “adultified,” she freaked out

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 Kids are getting older younger

There’s even a term for kids growing up faster than they did before. “KGOY,” or “kids getting older younger” means they are becoming more savvy than their descendants. 

This might be caused by the fact that, on average, parents provide their children with a smartphone at the age of 10, opening them to unlimited news, social media, and other freedoms that were previously inaccessible to kids and reserved for adults. By having such privileges, children are in a way forced into digital pressures that require emotional maturity to navigate. Meanwhile, previous generations enjoyed a childhood free from rules, oversight, and everything else that comes with the Internet and social media.

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Marketing often takes advantage of kids having better awareness of social media and brands so they advertise products to them instead of their parents. This worsens the problem, as children are more tempted to buy the latest skin care products or Stanley cups to stick to modern beauty ideals or avoid experiencing FOMO (fear of missing out). 

However, if they are truly maturing and not just becoming more intellectually savvy is a matter of perspective. Gen Z was found to finish education, leave home, drink alcohol, and drive later than their descendants, making some believe that kids are, in fact, maturing more slowly. 

Experts point out that it might be difficult to measure the idea of growing up in a social and cultural context, as there are so many aspects that make up childhood that it’s almost impossible to pinpoint one thing that could be a primary influence on the speed at which children mature. 

Evidence also suggests that adults tend to idealize their childhoods, which might skew their view of children today. So it’s a possibility that people who say that kids nowadays are growing up faster may be just comparing themselves to their own nostalgic years, which doesn’t accurately represent reality. 

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Children’s exposure to information has changed

Shelley Pasnik, senior vice president and director of the Center for Children and Technology, admits that what has truly changed is children’s exposure to information. Now they’re constantly being fed “media-delivered ideas” (online content that is intended for adults) and being exposed to them much sooner. 

“There is increased exposure to violent or sexual content at a younger age, which causes a desensitisation and normalisation, because children’s brains aren’t fully developed to process this in a way that an adult brain can,” says child psychiatrist Dr. Willough Jenkins. “Of course, part of the exposure is to other people, too. Children can communicate with strangers without supervision, which leads to an increased risk of cyberbullying or adult conversations that they are not equipped to handle.”

This can lead to kids facing adult realities before they are ready for them, which can be interpreted as growing up too quickly. On the other hand, intense modern parental involvement in children’s lives is making their environments more controlled and secure, which can slow down their maturing.

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So it’s truly a double-edged sword. Viewed one way we could say that children are being kept younger by their parents, who shield them more than in previous generations. Viewed another way, kids might just be exhibiting how maturing looks in today’s society. 

Therefore, in a way, it’s both important and not to protect the childhood of kids. If a child comes into contact with something they might not be knowledgeable about yet, it might have negative consequences for them. But if parents shield their kids from everything that might have the potential to harm them, they might be encouraged to slow down in their growing-up process. Good parenting means that caregivers should know when they should step in and protect their children and when to do otherwise. 

The mom added a comment to explain

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Jai Kossa
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This woman needs to learn the difference between adultifying children and children just pretending to be like adults they see as mimicking.

Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Shirley Temple was named after... Guess Who! It was originally ginger ale, but is now usually lemon lime soda, with grenadine, lime, and cherries. Why? For children to drink when they were with their parents in a bar. Shirley Temple tasted the drink, and found it too sweet.

WindySwede
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean, rhe chocolate cigarettes when I was little was questionable. But fancy lemonade in fancy glasses? We all drink water to survive, not all liquids are alcohol. 👍

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CanadianDimes
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The whole thing about the fizzy drinks aside, it struck me as weird that OP thought 9 was too young to have a sleepover. Nine doesn't strike me as an odd age to have a sleepover *at all*.

Karl der Große
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the perfect age. Next, we are going to read about people who think their kids are too tall to play basketball.

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Daya Meyer
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it not common anymore that children copy adult behaviour in their playtime? Like playing family or pretending to smoke a chocolate stick or having a fancy tea party? Wearing adults' clothes and nail polish just for fun? So drinking from fancy (plastic) glasses is just a game here as long as there is no alcohol present.

Child of the Stars
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that the expensive skincare and other things mentioned aren't okay for a 9yo. There's actually been some concern among pediatricians and child psychologists about the effects of preteen girls using things like anti-aging creams. But non-alcoholic mocktails at a birthday sleepover has been a thing for forever. I remember going to one in the 90s where we got to have piña coladas and strawberry daiquiris and even my very fundamentalist Christian parents who viewed alcohol consumption as a sin didn't care.

_-DungeonKeeper-_
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love Pina coladas, I'm still technically a child and I actually had a non alcoholic one once and it was a m a z i n g even my Christian grandmother thought it was ok

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Angela C
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a kid I pretended to smoke pretzel sticks, and on occasion my parents would let us drink soda out of wine glasses (usually if they were having wine). It's fun when you're a kid to pretend to do adult things. Drinking out of a fancy glass makes you feel classy and special. The skincare stuff is definitely insane but mom needs to chill about the drinks.

R Dennis
Community Member
3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ffs! For New Years and birthdays, we bought sparkling grape juice (kid wine as my daughter called it) so the kids could toast with us. OP sounds more envious than upset.

Kaeda
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So OP will give her 9yo child sips of wine but has an issue with a non-alcoholic soda being served in a champagne flute? This is... ridiculous? 🫨

Tabitha
Community Member
3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m 63 now, but when I was a child, starting about when I was six-ish, I had my very first Shirley Temple at a really nice restaurant my parents and I went to. They had their cocktails and I had mine. The same bartender mixed all the drinks. At family weddings, I would get one small sip of champagne for the toast. I didn’t like it back then, and even now there are only a couple brands that taste good to me—-and they’re too expensive to drink all that often—-so there was no chance I’d want more. It’s a birthday party. I went to plenty of them, a lot of which were a combination birthday party/sleepover (not coed, because back then girls still thought boys were gross at that age), and by the time I was 10, I had been to several where we had a blast experimenting with makeup and hairstyles (no cutting, just styling). The host Mom always supervised, and gave us lessons in how to put on makeup and do hair. It was fun. Then we washed our faces and brushed our hair out, got in our pajamas, and set out our sleeping bags on the floor. Let the kids play pretend that they’re adults toasting the birthday girl with champagne, ffs. It’s not like they’re going to then proceed to raid the parents’ liquor cabinet and chug down all the bottles of booze in it.

Mrs.C
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If OP knew how this child was being raised and had issues with the other mom allowing her daughter to act "too grown" she never should have allowed her child to go to the party in the first place. If you want your child to be more sheltered, it's up to you to create and maintain that shelter not to expect others to do the same.

Deborah B
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her 9 year old is suffering more damage from over-anxious and over-controlling parenting than from "adultification".

OneWithRatsAndKefir
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know I certainly pretended, as a child around that age, to pretend to smoke when I had a Chupa-Chup to mimick family or family friends around me. And I can assure everyone that I have never smoked, not do I have the intention to. Little chutes would just make the kids feel glamorous or adult in a harmless way, or ‘special’ for being allowed to use sonething typically meant for adults.

Your Mom
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I child plays with a baby doll, pretending being the doll's parent, is that adultifying? In my country, there is a thing called "kid's sparkling wine" or something like that, and it was around already when I was a child about 35 years ago. It's just a fruit flavored soda but sold in champagne bottles. It differs from alcohol-free champagne as the tag on it is not as serious and fancy, it's something colorful and sometimes a cartoon figure is on it. It doesn't taste like sparkling wine, it tastes like artificial fruit flavor :D Anyway, when there was a celebration, like new year's eve, when every adult drank champagne, we, children, got this awful sh.t to drink :D Obviously, it was served in champagne glasses. Since it tastes like nuclear waste, I haven't drink it for a while, but I always see it on the shelves at the supermarket. I think it's made for children don't feel left out, and get something fancy and elegant when adults are celebrating.

Lea S.
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2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What does 'served like alcohol' mean? In a fancy glass? With candies? Those are ALL things that can apply to non-alcoholic/children drinks. I thought at the very least the mom may have called them cocktails or encouraged them to act drunk or something but....really? This is nothing. It was a fun drink, served in a fun glass. And FYI - I'm a serious cocktail fan. I regularly go to a place that has been nationally recognized. They serve mocktails. I've never had one with candy in it. Also - none of them come in plastic cups. Take a deep breath - this was no in no way inappropriate and absolutely matched what you already knew about the woman.

JL
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I guess she objects to cigars and brandy out on the veranda.

UncleJohn3000
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If anything, none of the kids thought about it until Ms. Kravitz brought it up.

K. LNU
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do dislike that kids (9-10 yo) are getting their parents to buy them expensive wrinkle cream and such. But the whole champagne flute full of juice? My parent's use to let us drink from those during the holidays. Only difference was we had MARTINELLI's sparkling cider, which in the US is non-alcoholic (apple juice with bubbles).

StretcherBearer
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember getting Shirley Temples and Virgin Pina Colada as a kid and though I developed a pill habit later on as an adult, I don't drink. I haven't had a drink in 15 years. Honestly, keeping the mystery about alcohol grows more interest IMO. Addiction is a weird beast and can manifest in more ways than just alcohol and d***s.

jaime b
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my grandfather gave me a sip of beer at 2. my mother nearly killed him from what i was told. my mother at Christmas by the time i was 5 was letting me have sips of cherry brandy. I'm 35 and i don't drink except at xmas every few years. one small bottle of cherry brandy/whisky lasts a year in my house. playing pretend is normal and if you keep this up you kid will end up with a drinking problem. i have a 9yo girl she likes make up why idk i rarely wear it. if your worried about your kid being adultified do not shop in the 'girls' section. they have daisy dukes for 5yos. i simply buy my daughter shorts from the boys section. as for the sleep over part my daughter had her 3 this past summer. both she and her friends were not ready. i as a young girl had my first sleep over at 7 or so

Laure Miller
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I suppose this woman also never did anything like buy her daughter a toy kitchen set, or bought her a doll, or let her clatter around in high heels. What difference could it possibly make how the fizzy drink was served?

Meagan Glaser
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

future posts from this mom will include "my grandaughter wanted to play dress up and have a tea party, which is an ADULT activity, but CPS only laughed at me" and "are silly straws too provocative?"

Yu Pan
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The next time op hosts a sleepover party, she can serve ice cream sundae, milkshake or hot cocoa, okay?

Trista JW
Community Member
2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's not a damn thing wrong with this! Kids have always and will always mimic adults, so giving a kid a fancy drink or some pop in a cute plastic cup is not a problem at all! Haha, I remember candy smokes, chewing gum that was shredded to mimic the look of tobacco, Shirley Temples, there is NO harm being done and nine is NOT too young for a sleepover. Other than the stupid anti-aging BS, everything that has been mentioned is things that kids have ALWAYS done and will CONTINUE to do: Play pretend and want to be included in "adult" stuff.

سارا ناز
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get what she's saying, I think. It's a bit uptight to be uncomfortable with kids being served a kids beverage, but I get the optics made her upset. As a mom of a young tween I also see social media trends making very young children want to use skincare & dress older & genery percieve they are older in their minds; thats natural on some kids end, but social media trends have really upped the game because it's a whole new market for these beauty companies. However, it's not really just the kids bday drinks she's worried about, it's this young girl's influence on her own daughter & sadly I understand that, it's hard to fight. Maybe just pick your battles, the harder you try to keep them away from each other as friends, the deeper the desire becomes in the kid to want to be like that other kid.

Your Mom
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she's worried about the influence, why did she let her go to the sleepover? Seriously, if you think a child is bad influence on your child, do you let them have a sleepover? And you talk about two different things. Children pretend being adults since the beginning of mankind. Children play with baby dolls, pretending being parents, just to mention one. Pretending having a drink is totally normal. On the other hand, about the skin care products and stuff, it's not her business. As she wrote, everyone parents as they want. If she doesn't like her child to be around a child who's like the bd girl, then she should not have let her go to the sleepover. I'm absolutely against crop tops and make ups on 9yo's, but she seems like she judges the little girl, and dislike her, and because of this, she totally misinterpret the drinks.

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zatrisha
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't see a problem with the drinks, but skin care products for a 9yo are a real problem, it teaches her that she is only beautiful when she consumes expensive things. In addition, it is not good for young skin, it prevents natural regulation.

Hodge Elmwood
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"She drinks more water than she ever has" because she has a frickin' Stanley cup. Hope you're cool with the lead and tendency to accumulate bacteria. BTW, there is no scientific evidence that people don't drink enough water. That's a trend that was invented and is pushed by the bottled water industry. We are not all walking around on the verge of passing out from dehydration.

Eric Torrey
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a kid and would go out to dinner with my parents, I would order a ginger ale. But, my Dad (always happy to embarrass me) would say, "Make that a Clark Gable", which he would clarify our in a loud voice, "It is the same as a Shirley Temple, but he thinks he is at that age where he thinks he is too old to order a kid's drink. The point... we had these kid drinks that looked like adult beverages 60 years ago. They are nothing new. They would even be in the "Drinks" section of the kids menu.

nottheactualphoto
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"leave home, drink alcohol, and drive later than their descendants" ...someone doesn't know the meaning of the word "descendant." If you're a teenager, you probably don't have descendants. Yes, I know there is a faction that says a word means the exact opposite of what it means.

Alexandra Prytkova
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that OP just doesn't like the other mother's parenting style and is looking at straws to pick?

Nope
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You do know that "descendant" refers to the *younger* generation, right? You have a couple sentences up there that make no sense...

Juanita Sullivan
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids are losing their childhoods earlier than ever and social media and cell phones are not happening. I agree with the Mom 1000%. People need to stop and think about how people used to get along without all this c**p. Gee, how on earth did kids survive before the internet? Horrors! They are tuning out completely to reality. The entitled generation is growing and it's not funny. Much of the younger parent generation grew up with the internet and know nothing else. They don't know the harm they are doing to society and their own kids. Stop and think about it. How long has Facebook been around? If the infrastructure were to go down, people would not know how to survive. Think about that one for a minute. If they can't get online they feel like their life is over. Kids don't even know what it means to be kids any more. Gee, I wonder why!

Sojourner
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let them cook, OP. Pretending to be an adult is just harmless fun...oh wait. I have to get my DL soon. C**p. (Saying this from the US).

René Sauer
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And to think that there are actual alcohol-free drinks marketing themselves as "champagne for kids".... Gotta love some good robby bubble.

Margaret Shannon
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I'm sympathetic to the mom's point of view, one of the most important things we need to know in life is how to deal with people who think and act differently from ourselves. This is an opportunity for mom and daughter to discuss their values, how to live accordingly. Instead, it sounds to me like Mom is looking for permission to impose her views on another parent.

Jai Kossa
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This woman needs to learn the difference between adultifying children and children just pretending to be like adults they see as mimicking.

Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Shirley Temple was named after... Guess Who! It was originally ginger ale, but is now usually lemon lime soda, with grenadine, lime, and cherries. Why? For children to drink when they were with their parents in a bar. Shirley Temple tasted the drink, and found it too sweet.

WindySwede
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean, rhe chocolate cigarettes when I was little was questionable. But fancy lemonade in fancy glasses? We all drink water to survive, not all liquids are alcohol. 👍

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CanadianDimes
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The whole thing about the fizzy drinks aside, it struck me as weird that OP thought 9 was too young to have a sleepover. Nine doesn't strike me as an odd age to have a sleepover *at all*.

Karl der Große
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the perfect age. Next, we are going to read about people who think their kids are too tall to play basketball.

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Daya Meyer
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it not common anymore that children copy adult behaviour in their playtime? Like playing family or pretending to smoke a chocolate stick or having a fancy tea party? Wearing adults' clothes and nail polish just for fun? So drinking from fancy (plastic) glasses is just a game here as long as there is no alcohol present.

Child of the Stars
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that the expensive skincare and other things mentioned aren't okay for a 9yo. There's actually been some concern among pediatricians and child psychologists about the effects of preteen girls using things like anti-aging creams. But non-alcoholic mocktails at a birthday sleepover has been a thing for forever. I remember going to one in the 90s where we got to have piña coladas and strawberry daiquiris and even my very fundamentalist Christian parents who viewed alcohol consumption as a sin didn't care.

_-DungeonKeeper-_
Community Member
1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love Pina coladas, I'm still technically a child and I actually had a non alcoholic one once and it was a m a z i n g even my Christian grandmother thought it was ok

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Angela C
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a kid I pretended to smoke pretzel sticks, and on occasion my parents would let us drink soda out of wine glasses (usually if they were having wine). It's fun when you're a kid to pretend to do adult things. Drinking out of a fancy glass makes you feel classy and special. The skincare stuff is definitely insane but mom needs to chill about the drinks.

R Dennis
Community Member
3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ffs! For New Years and birthdays, we bought sparkling grape juice (kid wine as my daughter called it) so the kids could toast with us. OP sounds more envious than upset.

Kaeda
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So OP will give her 9yo child sips of wine but has an issue with a non-alcoholic soda being served in a champagne flute? This is... ridiculous? 🫨

Tabitha
Community Member
3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m 63 now, but when I was a child, starting about when I was six-ish, I had my very first Shirley Temple at a really nice restaurant my parents and I went to. They had their cocktails and I had mine. The same bartender mixed all the drinks. At family weddings, I would get one small sip of champagne for the toast. I didn’t like it back then, and even now there are only a couple brands that taste good to me—-and they’re too expensive to drink all that often—-so there was no chance I’d want more. It’s a birthday party. I went to plenty of them, a lot of which were a combination birthday party/sleepover (not coed, because back then girls still thought boys were gross at that age), and by the time I was 10, I had been to several where we had a blast experimenting with makeup and hairstyles (no cutting, just styling). The host Mom always supervised, and gave us lessons in how to put on makeup and do hair. It was fun. Then we washed our faces and brushed our hair out, got in our pajamas, and set out our sleeping bags on the floor. Let the kids play pretend that they’re adults toasting the birthday girl with champagne, ffs. It’s not like they’re going to then proceed to raid the parents’ liquor cabinet and chug down all the bottles of booze in it.

Mrs.C
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If OP knew how this child was being raised and had issues with the other mom allowing her daughter to act "too grown" she never should have allowed her child to go to the party in the first place. If you want your child to be more sheltered, it's up to you to create and maintain that shelter not to expect others to do the same.

Deborah B
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her 9 year old is suffering more damage from over-anxious and over-controlling parenting than from "adultification".

OneWithRatsAndKefir
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know I certainly pretended, as a child around that age, to pretend to smoke when I had a Chupa-Chup to mimick family or family friends around me. And I can assure everyone that I have never smoked, not do I have the intention to. Little chutes would just make the kids feel glamorous or adult in a harmless way, or ‘special’ for being allowed to use sonething typically meant for adults.

Your Mom
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I child plays with a baby doll, pretending being the doll's parent, is that adultifying? In my country, there is a thing called "kid's sparkling wine" or something like that, and it was around already when I was a child about 35 years ago. It's just a fruit flavored soda but sold in champagne bottles. It differs from alcohol-free champagne as the tag on it is not as serious and fancy, it's something colorful and sometimes a cartoon figure is on it. It doesn't taste like sparkling wine, it tastes like artificial fruit flavor :D Anyway, when there was a celebration, like new year's eve, when every adult drank champagne, we, children, got this awful sh.t to drink :D Obviously, it was served in champagne glasses. Since it tastes like nuclear waste, I haven't drink it for a while, but I always see it on the shelves at the supermarket. I think it's made for children don't feel left out, and get something fancy and elegant when adults are celebrating.

Lea S.
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2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What does 'served like alcohol' mean? In a fancy glass? With candies? Those are ALL things that can apply to non-alcoholic/children drinks. I thought at the very least the mom may have called them cocktails or encouraged them to act drunk or something but....really? This is nothing. It was a fun drink, served in a fun glass. And FYI - I'm a serious cocktail fan. I regularly go to a place that has been nationally recognized. They serve mocktails. I've never had one with candy in it. Also - none of them come in plastic cups. Take a deep breath - this was no in no way inappropriate and absolutely matched what you already knew about the woman.

JL
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I guess she objects to cigars and brandy out on the veranda.

UncleJohn3000
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If anything, none of the kids thought about it until Ms. Kravitz brought it up.

K. LNU
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do dislike that kids (9-10 yo) are getting their parents to buy them expensive wrinkle cream and such. But the whole champagne flute full of juice? My parent's use to let us drink from those during the holidays. Only difference was we had MARTINELLI's sparkling cider, which in the US is non-alcoholic (apple juice with bubbles).

StretcherBearer
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember getting Shirley Temples and Virgin Pina Colada as a kid and though I developed a pill habit later on as an adult, I don't drink. I haven't had a drink in 15 years. Honestly, keeping the mystery about alcohol grows more interest IMO. Addiction is a weird beast and can manifest in more ways than just alcohol and d***s.

jaime b
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my grandfather gave me a sip of beer at 2. my mother nearly killed him from what i was told. my mother at Christmas by the time i was 5 was letting me have sips of cherry brandy. I'm 35 and i don't drink except at xmas every few years. one small bottle of cherry brandy/whisky lasts a year in my house. playing pretend is normal and if you keep this up you kid will end up with a drinking problem. i have a 9yo girl she likes make up why idk i rarely wear it. if your worried about your kid being adultified do not shop in the 'girls' section. they have daisy dukes for 5yos. i simply buy my daughter shorts from the boys section. as for the sleep over part my daughter had her 3 this past summer. both she and her friends were not ready. i as a young girl had my first sleep over at 7 or so

Laure Miller
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I suppose this woman also never did anything like buy her daughter a toy kitchen set, or bought her a doll, or let her clatter around in high heels. What difference could it possibly make how the fizzy drink was served?

Meagan Glaser
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

future posts from this mom will include "my grandaughter wanted to play dress up and have a tea party, which is an ADULT activity, but CPS only laughed at me" and "are silly straws too provocative?"

Yu Pan
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The next time op hosts a sleepover party, she can serve ice cream sundae, milkshake or hot cocoa, okay?

Trista JW
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2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's not a damn thing wrong with this! Kids have always and will always mimic adults, so giving a kid a fancy drink or some pop in a cute plastic cup is not a problem at all! Haha, I remember candy smokes, chewing gum that was shredded to mimic the look of tobacco, Shirley Temples, there is NO harm being done and nine is NOT too young for a sleepover. Other than the stupid anti-aging BS, everything that has been mentioned is things that kids have ALWAYS done and will CONTINUE to do: Play pretend and want to be included in "adult" stuff.

سارا ناز
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get what she's saying, I think. It's a bit uptight to be uncomfortable with kids being served a kids beverage, but I get the optics made her upset. As a mom of a young tween I also see social media trends making very young children want to use skincare & dress older & genery percieve they are older in their minds; thats natural on some kids end, but social media trends have really upped the game because it's a whole new market for these beauty companies. However, it's not really just the kids bday drinks she's worried about, it's this young girl's influence on her own daughter & sadly I understand that, it's hard to fight. Maybe just pick your battles, the harder you try to keep them away from each other as friends, the deeper the desire becomes in the kid to want to be like that other kid.

Your Mom
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she's worried about the influence, why did she let her go to the sleepover? Seriously, if you think a child is bad influence on your child, do you let them have a sleepover? And you talk about two different things. Children pretend being adults since the beginning of mankind. Children play with baby dolls, pretending being parents, just to mention one. Pretending having a drink is totally normal. On the other hand, about the skin care products and stuff, it's not her business. As she wrote, everyone parents as they want. If she doesn't like her child to be around a child who's like the bd girl, then she should not have let her go to the sleepover. I'm absolutely against crop tops and make ups on 9yo's, but she seems like she judges the little girl, and dislike her, and because of this, she totally misinterpret the drinks.

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zatrisha
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't see a problem with the drinks, but skin care products for a 9yo are a real problem, it teaches her that she is only beautiful when she consumes expensive things. In addition, it is not good for young skin, it prevents natural regulation.

Hodge Elmwood
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"She drinks more water than she ever has" because she has a frickin' Stanley cup. Hope you're cool with the lead and tendency to accumulate bacteria. BTW, there is no scientific evidence that people don't drink enough water. That's a trend that was invented and is pushed by the bottled water industry. We are not all walking around on the verge of passing out from dehydration.

Eric Torrey
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a kid and would go out to dinner with my parents, I would order a ginger ale. But, my Dad (always happy to embarrass me) would say, "Make that a Clark Gable", which he would clarify our in a loud voice, "It is the same as a Shirley Temple, but he thinks he is at that age where he thinks he is too old to order a kid's drink. The point... we had these kid drinks that looked like adult beverages 60 years ago. They are nothing new. They would even be in the "Drinks" section of the kids menu.

nottheactualphoto
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"leave home, drink alcohol, and drive later than their descendants" ...someone doesn't know the meaning of the word "descendant." If you're a teenager, you probably don't have descendants. Yes, I know there is a faction that says a word means the exact opposite of what it means.

Alexandra Prytkova
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that OP just doesn't like the other mother's parenting style and is looking at straws to pick?

Nope
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You do know that "descendant" refers to the *younger* generation, right? You have a couple sentences up there that make no sense...

Juanita Sullivan
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids are losing their childhoods earlier than ever and social media and cell phones are not happening. I agree with the Mom 1000%. People need to stop and think about how people used to get along without all this c**p. Gee, how on earth did kids survive before the internet? Horrors! They are tuning out completely to reality. The entitled generation is growing and it's not funny. Much of the younger parent generation grew up with the internet and know nothing else. They don't know the harm they are doing to society and their own kids. Stop and think about it. How long has Facebook been around? If the infrastructure were to go down, people would not know how to survive. Think about that one for a minute. If they can't get online they feel like their life is over. Kids don't even know what it means to be kids any more. Gee, I wonder why!

Sojourner
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let them cook, OP. Pretending to be an adult is just harmless fun...oh wait. I have to get my DL soon. C**p. (Saying this from the US).

René Sauer
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And to think that there are actual alcohol-free drinks marketing themselves as "champagne for kids".... Gotta love some good robby bubble.

Margaret Shannon
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I'm sympathetic to the mom's point of view, one of the most important things we need to know in life is how to deal with people who think and act differently from ourselves. This is an opportunity for mom and daughter to discuss their values, how to live accordingly. Instead, it sounds to me like Mom is looking for permission to impose her views on another parent.

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