“Money Talks, Wealth Whispers”: 30 People Are Sharing Small Things That Scream “I’m Rich”
There are plenty of stories about the lavish spending of the rich and famous. Athletes, movie stars, and business moguls love to flash their designer clothes, sports cars, and yachts. But some of them, often the most successful, live incredibly basic lives, just like the rest of us do. Just not out of necessity. They have the cash to bathe in splendor and excess; they just choose not to.
There's a recent discussion on Reddit, that started with a question from a now-deleted user that asked: "They say 'Money talks but wealth whispers,' what are the subtle signs of wealth?" and people who have identified them in real life are illustrating the differences between those who desperately want others to know they have money and those who are content with how well off they truly are.
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Ohh I can definitely answer this one! I used to do remodeling/carpentry in very wealthy town here in New Jersey. Depending on the job/task at hand I’d spend anywhere from 6 months to a year inside multimillion dollar homes, 8am-6pm, I’d pretty much be a witness to a lot of rich folks entire days. Not to mention I also was able to interact with these folks. Here are things I noticed beside their beautiful homes & cars that hinted to me they are very well off: Extremely intellectual conversations. During my lunch breaks I’d always chat with clients & man when I tell you these people could dive DEEP into almost ANY subject. Especially the more finance/money/economic related topics. These people were all well versed and decently knowledgeable in many areas. They never raise an eyebrow to any price. I had one client be quoted $16,000 USD for an exquisite living room rug (including its installation), & with no hesitation he had the check written out within minutes. To this day that experience still numbs my mind. They dressed like normal people. I never caught any of these people wearing clothes covered in LV logos, or Gucci signs. If they werent dressed down in a suit for work, they wore solid color t shirts w/ khakis or jeans and running shoes. Though I did have one client who would often wear blazers over his t-shirts. They traveled… A LOT. Had one job where the client was traveling the world. Literally. His maid would allow me and the crew access to the home during the day and we would lock up on our way out. We kept contact and communicated job updates through facetime & pictures. Had another client where him and his wife literally would leave the country every week to give me and the guys “space to work”. Talk about F-U money. Their kids, if they had any, were very well mannered and well spoken. I’m talking as young as 6 years old. These kids would consistently greet me and the crew properly & be able to hold good conversations. And express no shyness or timid behavior, very well spoken kids. Sometimes it would be so odd to me that an 8 year old would be able to talk to us like a 30 year old. They have a lot of books. Every home I worked in there was a library somewhere within it. I could list so many more but these are just some! If you made it this far thanks for reading!
I have over 5K books..most I ever made before I retired in 1995 was 53K . Matter of what you love in some instances. And no Genre doesn't matter author and subject do!
Neither of my parents made it through grade school because of depression economics near the Ozarks. But, my mother had a library card and we siblings all love reading. She would read books on manners and play restaurant so we would know how to act in case we ever went to one.
Load More Replies...Worked for rich people for a while and I always laugh when I see musicians or actors who suddenly start wearing huge amounts of jewelry and clothing labels etc...it's so tacky and a sign of people who have 'come into' money. Real rich and wealthy people feel no need to do that for the most part with few exceptions. They're more competitive with each other and would rather the public not know exactly how wealthy they are. But they'll show off art and cars to each other. I also agree with the well-mannered kids. Generally they are in private school with less kids per teacher, better curriculums, less stress and less nonsense homework. It's why education is truly the key to fixing so many issues. They grow up with better skills and better ability to handle problems. They can also grow up spoiled and entitled if the parents are the same, but a lot of times they are simply smart and capable.
I agree about the clothes! Most wealthy folks I have encountered WILL buy designer...but you would NEVER know it was designer! They may wear a plain pink blouse and nice black pencil skirt...and you may never realize the blouse was Chanel and cost $800 and the skirt was Celine and set them back $3500. They despise the tacky "labels" and most even shy away from wearing simple logo shirts. It is often a wide chasm between "rich" families and "wealthy" ones, for sure!
Load More Replies...I don't get this. "They were erudite!" So, you don't teach your kids to read? "They were polite!". So, your kids are rude? "They were wearing normal clothes!". What, they should only wear underpants made of feathers stolen from an angel's wing?
Stop being pedantic Fish Fingers. OP was stating their experience working for wealthy clients. People often assume that the rich/wealthy are brash, showy, judgmental etc. OP was just stating that despite their wealth they were generally decent folk not full of airs and graces.
Load More Replies...Hmm, that's not been my experience with the wealthy. Especially the kids part. I'm sure there must be some nice wealthy people, but...
Definitely true. Our oldest friends are like this and you would laugh if you passed them in the grocery store and someone suggested they were of the wealthier people. Chinos, sneakers, same spouse, trucks and she still shops at goodwill and thrift stores (with me) not because she’s a tight wad (she’s not, they also do things like the British open) but because it’s fun and once you wash the items they’re just as good and it’s smart to shop for bargains. (And she grew up with money) she once remarked at she doesn’t believe it changes people, she has always believed it reveals them. One thing is true- my husband and I are a “normals” and she’s never treated me differently- ever. And if you didn’t know who she was or who she was married to you would think she was just another friendly attractive blonde lady living in Southern California with an older suburban and dogs. Not a whiff of attitude.
I would have a lot of books if I could, but the ones I want to read are not sold in English here and I refuse to read those sub-par translations. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix cemented my resolve to avoid Slovak translations. Just dreadful.
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Load More Replies...I don't keep books around, must admit I'm hooked on my kindle, If I don't like it.poof it's gone.
They spend money if it saves them time. Time is more valuable than money
I think the article is more saying "These are things wealthy people do"...NOT..."Only wealthy people do these things".
Load More Replies...I'm not wealthy but there are times I will spend the extra money just not to have hassle.
Orrr someone decided they weren't gonna live their life hoarding money like some kind of scrouge Mcduck
Honestly, in a lot of cases its simple math. I’ve got a family member who is pretty well off. Owns their own business and works pretty much non-stop. I was asking him why he pays for house cleaning and he said “lets say I make $150 an hour for what I do. I set my hours and do as much as I can in a day. I pay someone $25 an hour to come and clean the house and whatnot. By doing that for things that are necessary, Im not losing $25 an hour, Im still making $125 an hour. If I spend my hours doing that, NOW im giving up $150 an hour. It doesn’t make sense for me to lose that time each day when I can not only make more money doing what Im doing, I can provide steady income to someone else as well.” Made a whole lot more sense when he told me that.
Your time has a value based on your wealth. If I can save time by spending money, I look at the cost and the time involved. If the cost is low enough and the time savings enough, I'll spend the money. Wealthy people don't have to do that mental calculation. Spending money is always easier to them than time.
This is absolutely true. The real advantage of wealth is that it allows you to spend your time doing things you want to do. And you don’t have to be wealthy to take advantage of this; simply be aware that sometimes it’s worthwhile to spend more because the benefit outweighs the cost.
I do this and I’m poor AF. Time is still more valuable for me…and I might have an impatience problem 😬
"Well, do you have an impatience problem or not?" she asked impatiently.
Load More Replies...Money can be made, but we can not buy time, so yes, time is one of the most valuable things, which once lost, can never be recovered or bought.
And then people spend 12 hours a day working minimum wage jobs just to make that money
Load More Replies...Queen Elizabeth I on her deathbed said, "All my possessions for a moment of time."
I’ve heard it said, a wealthy person doesn’t need everyone in the room to know he is wealthy.
One of the wealthiest ppl I ever met (has his own island level) always looks like a bum when not going to meetings. Like cut off shorts, flip flops and T-shirts. It's hilarious
A poor person doesn't need everyone in the room to know they are poor either!
Depends on the type of rich person (in my experience) people who got rich within their lifetime tend to be vastly more humble and quiet than the trustfund kids who grew up with mommy and daddy buying whatever they desired
Because it’s tacky and bad form to advertise your wealth. That’s how old money wealth does it. Low key and downplayed, old money does not flaunt. That’s true elegance. Only tacky nouveau riche types flaunt (not all newly rich people are tacky, it depends on the person).
I know. a lot of very wealthy people, like own your own plane wealthy, and you would never in a million years know by looking at them. Very nice cars, but not too flashy. Regular clothes. No designer labels. Sadly, the things that people save up so much money to buy that have the logos on them scream they want to look super rich, but aren't at all.
That is true in most cases. We have family friends that are wealthty but they are the most humble and generous people you will ever meet, also their daughters are so nice and very well raised. However I use to have classmate who's parents were very well off, she was complaining she could only get a car from them for less then 15.000 euros!
I used to be wealthy. Prenuptial agreements wealthy. No one ever knew. Preferred it that way. Ahh...another life ago now so it doesn't matter
Not wealthy but enjoy some financial success, and I recall once someone told me they would never wear the jeans I had on (worn, had some holes). Btw, I know this guy, a bit older than me, well enough that I knew he lived in a crummy studio apartment and travelled on foot/bike because he couldn't afford a car (nothing wrong with not having a car, just noting it was because he couldn't afford it and we live somewhere that not having a car is certainly an inconvenience) and has no real plans for the future. I thought, sir, you and I have very different priorities.
Not hoarding or keeping things. Once you know you have money to replace things, it’s much easier to let go of them. Minimalist decor aesthetics are very rooted in this idea.
As someone who grew up poor, I consider it my right to keep things that may be useful some day. It’s not clutter, it’s a form of thriftiness.
I also grew up poor. My Mam adheres to the idea of keeping things. I do not. I need a house half the size because I don't keep random items that may be useful some day.
Load More Replies...Minimalist looks nice and all, but my magpie brain is like "shiny, pretty, must have and put it on the shelves!". And to be honest, looking at the stuff I have on them makes me happy.
Shiny pretties always belong on the shelves, except for in homes with cats. Cats, for some reason, like to redecorate so that every shiny pretty is on the floor.
Load More Replies...I have both "throw away" and "spend" anxiety. I can't just buy things and I can't just throw away things, I didn't grow up in a wealthy family so I guess that has something to do with it too.
I understand that completely. I choose to hang on to things that I don't really need because I remember what it was like to want those things but I couldn't have them. I've gotten better, but it's still a slippery slope sometimes.
I inherited the “you never know if you’ll need it from my mother”. She grew up after the war when things would be sparse.
My former boss used to say "either you have money, or you talk about it"
Trying to shame people into not talking about money to keep the status quo?
No. See Vira's answer below. It's that the really wealthy (especially if it's inherited money) don't feel the need to brag about what they've got, or show it off with designer labels everywhere. They are secure about the status, and porbably understand that it's poor taste to flaunt your wealth, especially when others may be struggling.
Load More Replies...Is it weird to not care about telling the truth about what you earn, or what you paid for a pair of shoes or your house? I really don’t care and if someone asked id just tell them. I work in government so it’s not like they can’t look up my salary online or google my address and see what I bought my house for anyway. My parents were so weird about mentioning money I always low key worried about it. I also love telling people how much of a bargain something was….can’t help myself.
I think this is referring to people who constantly insert how much they spent on their third car, or the fancy electronic, or if someone walks near them they'll say, "watch the suit, I paid X dollars for this!" It's not about general finance discussions; it's the arrogant attitude. People who earned it, usually don't try to attract attention to it.
Load More Replies...That's kind of true but there are exceptions, like those who want people to know they've got money.
They will never complain about the cost of something, but will nitpick the quality of work to death
As everyone should. There is a saying in my country that goes like this: if you buy cheap, you buy twice. So even when I wasn't as well off as today I would rather save money to buy one well made thing instead of lots of cheap c**p
Terry Pratchett's Boots theory of economics
Load More Replies...Im not wealthy and do this. Quality is worth the cost. Lq s**t breaks and ends up costing you more later.
When I had my business I was ruthless about the quality of everything we made and shipped.
I don't know about this, I know people who make a lot of money and still complain about the cost of things...
When you ask them if they’re wealthy or not they always just say “I’m comfortable”
Under what circumstance would it be ok to ask someone if they are wealthy? That question is rude and inappropriate.
Why the hell would anyone ask that? Rude. I always told them it's none of their business.
Wealth is the money you haven't spent. When you spend money, the only thing it actually tells anyone is that you're that much less wealthy. An outside observer doesn't know if you spent that money on credit or with cash, just that you have that much less wealth. Real wealth is having the freedom and ability to take the time to find what brings you joy. The number that provides that freedom is going to be different for everyone. The mindset of those who have made it to that point is unmistakable.
As someone who grew up poor you legit don't even have money standing for credit. Try coming from a generationally poor family that f*cks your credit before you even turn 18. I tried applying for student loans and got investigated by the IRS for having $18,000 in federal loan debt from a business loan my dad took out under my social.
Rich people (and wannabe rich) buy T Shirts with big bold letters of designer brands to broadcast they spent $500 for their shirt.
Wealthy people might buy the same brand shirt as the rich guy but it has no logos.
The only thing I want on my chest is a sleepy kitty as we relax. Or a funny slogan/picture. I won´t be a walking advertisement for a brand raking in millions.
It's the biggest con the big brands have managed to pull on the populace - making people pay them in order to advertise their stuff.
Load More Replies...I’m not wealthy, though my mother was raised to be a debutante. Her father lost everything in bad investments AFTER riding out the 1929 Crash, believe it or not. Anyway, she raised me as a little black dress with pearls type. She said elegance is always understated. SinI well understand truly wealthy people dressing simply. But don’t underestimate their casual clothing. I’ll bet, if you saw the labels, you’d find those plain tees come from the best old school designers. Think Burberry, Brook Brothers, and the like.
Wealthy people, (think, generational wealth) DO NOT WEAR LABELS. If they do, its extemely subtle, or only on special occasions. They also tend to constantly travel, have multiple homes in places they love to go, EVERYONE in the family goes to unversity, it isn't optional, and they KNOW their food and wine. They also tend to just be nice, normal people. These f***s you see on reality TV flaunting Louis Vuitton and flying private jets everywhere? In actual reality, they are up to their eyeballs in debt and don't have s**t. Remember; people that accumulate wealth tend to live beneath their means.
I prefer plain tees unless it USMC brand shirts. I'll wear the designer/popular brands if they pay me to be a walking billboard. You'll get no free advertising out of me. I'd rather have no attention before I invite the wrong kind of attention because of a logo where people tend to assume you're bursting at the seams with cash. I'll take peace and quiet with a side of anonymity please
Because wearing a logo shirt is considered crass, but wearing a 1K custom made shirt is fine.
I would say that people who HAVE to have shirts and clothes with the huge tacky logo ALL the time aren't wealthy. They are using credit cards, or are wearing knock-offs. But usually wealthy people are always well put together. They always look impeccable. Their hair (men and women) is always freshly cut and styled, there clothes might not be designer, but they are always new.
They have good, healthy food — always. Healthy, quality food costs a LOT of money
Bougie food (think 'grass-finished, organic') costs a lot of money. Healthy food is more expensive than junk food but it's a lot less than bougie food.
Grass fed or naturally fed means just that...not corn and confined spaces. Ethically right, much better and more humane living conditions for something that is unfortunately only alive to die for us. It's not "bougie."
Load More Replies...That's such an excuse to eat junk and not cook/eat proper meals. I live under the poverty level. Myself and 2 teens. We ALWAYS have healthy food here. You get a larger amount of food if you buy fresh or frozen veg/fruit/meat and make dinners from scratch. People say they can't afford healthy yet they have expensive cell phones, drink alcohol, order take out or smoke. Prioritize. Not everything needs to be organic to eat healthy. Also, eat foods in season where you live.
I'm glad it's working out for you. You are in a minority of people in poverty. The reality is that fruits and vegetables cost more than rice and beans.
Load More Replies...Just adding that rich people often also have cooks and home gyms/personal trainers, more space to exercise and are more active because they can afford to do more active, fun activities. Generalizing, but a lot of people who are born into wealth are pretty healthy from the start because they have chefs who know how to make healthy food taste good. Or they just get used to a healthy diet and it doesn't taste so foreign to them. So they grow up with good habits. You don't always see it in people who grew up poor but became rich because they are used to a salty, fatty diet or they weren't very active as kids. And now they have money to eat even more salty, fatty food.
Healthy food isn't that expensive, getting the bulk of your calories from beans and whole grains can be fairly healthy, and few foods are cheaper than brown rice and beans. What is expensive is getting unecesary labels added to your food like organic.
ehhhh this still depends on the person, not the amount of money in their bank account.
Yes, what if someone can't cook or work two jobs and simply don't have time?
Load More Replies...It can, but there's ways to eat healthy that don't cost a ton.
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Their skin. If you see someone with amazing skin and teeth chances are they can afford to take care of it. Atleast thats one subtle sign in the Philippines
Acne meds and free dental care (Slovakia). Though the hoops I had to jump through for the meds would have made me an Olympic athlete.
In the US it's the opposite with health care. Yes, rich people have great teeth because they can afford anything. But a cause of contention in the country right now is that many people who are on gov’t assistance get health/dental care for free. In many states if you work full time, employers are required to offer insurance. They pay 3 quarters of it and the rest is deducted from your check. If you choose not to take it, you’re hit with huge tax penalties. And you usually have to pay a huge deductible before the insurance will even kick in (if they even cover it). HOWEVER, if you don’t work at all and are on gov’t assistance, you get a lot of services for free. And I don’t want to penalize poor people or especially disabled people on assistance for legit reasons, but a lot of people take advantage of it. It feels like those of us working full time get penalized. It’s like a benefit to not work more to keep your free medical/government benefits.
But because Medicaid reimburses providers at a lower rate than private insurance companies do, many doctors choose not to accept Medicaid or to limit how many of those patients they will take. Also, the trade off to qualify for these programs is living with almost nothing financially... it's not a trade off most people would choose.
Load More Replies...Also the wealthy live a much healthier and longer life … they can afford the very best skin and body care, such as youthful skin and new body parts as needed. No wrinkles, wheelchairs, walkers or canes for the wealthy, unless they have a chronic disease that any amount of money can not cure or fix.
Good diet usually is the root of this as the majority of dental and skin issues are diet related. (Yes, even hormonal acne can be bettered by not eating endocrine interrupters)
I’m on the Bogleheads forum, which is the best place anyone trying to find investing success should be on. Almost everyone over there is worth $5 mil or more yet drives a 12 year old used car because they know that frugality and avoiding debt and living beneath one’s means while always investing in index funds is the way to wealth.
Well I'm off to a good start then, my car is 23 years old! Just need the £5 mil now.
We have four cars in the family, and three are old enough to buy beer.
Load More Replies...The best way to becomes wealthy is to have wealthy parents, grandparents, and great grandparents.
Couldn’t agree more. I don’t give a rats about our cars so long as they work and are safe because I don’t want to pay the interest on a loan for something going down in value. Imagine buying a beautiful car then scratching it 😳
Shoes. Really good shoes.
Shoes are the one thing people should invest into. Buy second-hand/cheap shirts, trousers, whatever, but you either stand or sit all day in those shoes. Granted, even what used to be good quality brands are no longer the same (Looking at you, Gabor!).
Yeah, I had a pair of 80€ shoes once, my father bought them for me in a more expensive shop than we'd usually go to (I was starting boarding school, had 4 siblings, 2 older than me, and rarely had new shoes before). They split at the seams about 6 weeks later... I've had middle-prized shoes ever since, might invest about 50€ in winter boots, but not more. Unfortunately, since my pregnancy, my feet are 1 1/2 sizes larger than before and I've had to get new shoes all around... Point is: I'll rather look into the fit, the seams and the material than the price alone. Expensive isn't always better.
Load More Replies...My Mom and Dad grew up during the depression. Both families struggled to put food on the table, always. They grew up. Dad got drafted and Mom went to work and never stopped working. Dad got a good job after he was discharged. Mom worked when everybody else's Mom was a stay-at-home housewife. Money was still tight. She always said, "we can get you clothes at the dime store, but you are going to have good shoes because your feet are important." My brother and I ALWAYS had good shoes.
I was working at a Marin County gas station owned by a Stanford graduate with old California money. He kept the gas station so he could get aviation fuel and oils for his airplane. It was in a very, very affluent town. I asked if there was a way to tell old money from new. He told me to look at their shoes, that a wealthy man might have tattered cuffs but he would always wear comfortable, expensive well made shoes. Forty years since and I still look at peoples shoes.
I get a ton of compliments on how I dress, the most common one I hear, "Blank is so pretty/nice/awesome where did you find it?" Thrift stores. My answer is always second hand. I found a pair of sneakers that were $200 new, did I know that? Nope, they were gorgeous floral runners and super comfortable so $2 was an easy sell. I go by comfort and quality, usually if it still looks amazing after it's been washed and worn by a previous owner it's worth the buck you'll pay lol
You can get amazing quality at a second-hand store because the very rich want new stuff and their cast-offs are like new and VERY nice.
Load More Replies...How about taking your shoes to a cobbler? Does that scream "I've got money"? Seriously asking this.
I have done that a few times & l am not wealthy. It doesn't cost much to repair a heel or replace the sole's.
Load More Replies...I wear them because the asphalt is too rough. Get in my apt. and of it comes.
It can often be the least obvious person in the room. Years ago I was in a small town near a larger agricultural city. The whole area is either wheat or wine grapes. I was in a tiny little brewery having a beer and there was 6 customers in the room including myself. I was wearing a suit and tie, 2 young men about thirty are wearing what I’d call very nice business casual, a mid aged couple who drove up in a new Lexus and a older guy wearing muddy rubber boots, Carhart jacket and looked like any other of hundreds of farm hands one would see in the area taverns. The man who owned the brewery was a client of mine came by, nodded at the old guy in the Carharts and said he was one of the richest men in the area but still worked along side his guys when was around. He left in a mid 90’s Ford pickup that didn’t have a straight panel on it, his usual daily driver. In the area I’m from, that is a common story.
This reminds me of a man I met over 10 years ago in Olomouc. I was sitting in a restaurant/bar near the dorms with an acquaintance and her friend. Dogs were always welcome in that place. A rugged-looking man with two big dogs walks in and sits at an empty table (the place was empty except for us at the time) and just orders a beer and some daily soup. He was really nice and the dogs were well-behaved. The acquaintance and her friend started whining about the dogs so much that after a while I just got up and asked to join the man to talk about his dogs. They loved ear scritches! The acquaintance and her friend left, meanwhile I stayed and chatted. Some other people came in, knew the man, and only hours later I found out that he is a millionaire who takes care of dogs from bad situations, trains them, then adopts them for a small fee to new families. I saw him a couple more times after that, and each time he had a new dog with his own to socialize them. <3
Noble gesture to relocate the dogs to a better Happier environment
Load More Replies...I once had the fortune of having a braai (BBQ) with one of the richest boers (farmers) in the Polokwane area (I'm talking like, owning a multimillion game farm among others). I had only met him that day, through a mutual friend whose game farm we were visiting for the holidays. We were having the braai at like a rundown shack on the farthest corner of the guy's farm, with an old 1960's fridge in one corner of the open area, braai'ing on an old, half-rusted grill. All while the children, some his own, were literally swimming and catching fish in a farm dam a couple of meters away. I only found out these people were filthy rich after the braai. They were super friendly, welcoming and shared their own food with us, as we hadn't brought our own. He was down to earth and wore the usual boer attire (khaki's), but with crocs. I love the farmers of South Africa.
They don't brag about their money. Mostly because there are loads of people who are gold diggers and will expect them to pay for their stuff. Knew a millionaire who was sick and tired of being invited out to lunch but he was expected to pay the bill, long story short he lost a lot of friends when he refused.
Oh yeah, nothing attracts phoneys and jerks wanting to take advantage of you faster than money and/or fame.
Which is why if you ever win the lotto, the first thing you do is hire a lawyer who specializes in that, and the second is you tell no one you won.
Load More Replies...I knew a man who was once head of cardiac surgery at a renowned hospital. He was on the board etc... LOTS of money. He had property in San Francisco that he rented out. Where did I meet him? I was working security at an outdoor mall and struck up a conversation with this homeless person who always greeted me with a smile and a good morning. He said he got sick and tired of everyone always expecting him to be an ATM so he gave it all up. He keeps his rentals and makes a very nice living off of them and once a year gets all cleaned up and goes to inspect the properties. He also keeps his eyes open and finds young people that show promise and pays for their college education. He was an amazing man. I'm sorry I lost contact with him when I moved. He was fascinating to talk to.
If you're the one inviting - you're the one paying. Doesn't everyone know this?
It always amazes me how litlle english/american word "friend" means. In Poland, "przyjaciel" which is a direct translation of a "friend" is the guy who you can call at 2am and who will help you dispose of a body and never say a word about it. When you are adult you have like 2-3 friends. Almost never more. Seems to me that american "friend" is merely a person you know, and who is not your enemy.
If you find yourself constantly asking "where's <insert name of friend or family member>", and the answer is always something like:
In Barbados
They went to Key West for the weekend
I think they went to see the grand canyon
Probably skiing in Colorado again
Yeah...they didnt say a word but you know they got money.
I live in Florida and someone is always in the Keys or at Disney/Universal instead of a family get together. So there are exceptions.
I was just thinking about that. A friend in California has a Disney pass and goes for a couple of hours at a time. For me, it's a huge deal to travel there!
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I live in a neighborhood where you can play “millionaire or homeless.” If you see someone on the streets that looks slovenly, even if they are stinky-drunk and on a bender, it’s a coin toss if they are a millionaire or homeless.
The tell-tale sign is the teeth. Always the teeth.
I played this game the other day at the park with my wife. I guessed that the haggard old lady was a millionaire based on the teeth. I almost had doubt here. She had sun damaged skin, stained and worn joggers and dirty distressed sneakers. My wife pointed out that the shoes are some fashionable brand I’ve never heard of and sell for over $1,000. They come distressed and dirty.
The word "slovenly" always makes me think of Slovakia. In our language, it is "Slovensko". And I admit it does make sense.
Here's what I found on the history of the word (it s from the internet so who knows how accurate it is though): sloven (n.) late 15c., "immoral woman," later (16c.) also "rascal, knave" (regardless of gender); probably from a continental Germanic source, compare Middle Flemish sloovin "a scold," sloef "untidy, shabby," Dutch slof "careless, negligent," Middle Low German sloven "put on clothes carelessly," from Proto-Germanic *slaubjan, from PIE root *sleubh- "to slide, slip." Meaning "person careless of dress or negligent of cleanliness" is from 1520s. Also see s l u t.
Load More Replies...Millionaire or homeless???? If a millionaire is 'homeless' there must be a very serious drug+mental problem that needs attention… why are they homeless ??? No family??? We need sanctuary/asylums to take care of these hopeless people. Our government is very wealthy and very wasteful sending billions all over the world and letting these human beings die in the streets all over our own country! It's inhuman! It's disgraceful!!
Not talking about it.
I don't bring up money unless someone else is struggling and wants advice or they ask how I found something they like and they want to know how much I paid. A lot of people have no idea how to spend or save, and that's literally survival 101 right now.
We all need to talk about the neglected SICK & HOMELESS! We desperately need Hospital/Sanitariums to take care of them, cure them and get them off the streets and back to a productive life! Sacramento CA has 1000's & 1000's of sick & homeless people … living and dying on the streets 24/7 - everywhere you look! Something MUST be done!
Not even asking to look at luxury items or asking the price, just wanting to buy.
My God Sister was friends with a princess, one day they went shopping while the princess was on the downlow and she had to buy presents for her friends. They went to a luxury store where she just pointed out the stuff she wanted and the staff looked at her and laughed, she tried to buy again and they told her she "may want to look in her price range" as soon as they found out who she was they basically all shat themselves
(no idk who she is, I remember I was told the name but I can't remember her for the life of me and this was years ago)
"You work on commission right? Remember me? I was here the other day, and you refused to help me? Big mistake, BIG"
Way too scared of the sales people to go into a designer store. The judgy retail people are terrifying. Also, don’t they earn retail salary too? They’re probably not buying up all the stock any more than I am.
Retail staff of luxury stores can be some of the snootiest, it’s truly baffling how they judge people. You can however ask for someone else to assist you and the second salesperson understands that you’re there to spend money and will try to upsell tou, knowing you may just well buy extra items to spite that first salesperson.
Load More Replies...I must check prices and I must also do the "Hmmmmmmm" when its way out of budget and I'm scared to just say no. Lol
I used to have this friend while I was studying at University. We had the same Major, but she was from a super wealthy family in Johannesburg, while I come from a middle class, working family in a smaller city. So after waitressing part-time to save up for the summer holidays, I ask her to tag along while I go search for a new bikini. I wanted to buy a name brand and I was super stoked that I had saved enough money for one. She is browsing the stores with me while I carefully price-check and try different option. Then her eye catches these beautiful Guess shoes in one of the stores. She casually calls up her dad and he instantly transfers money to buy the shoes and a new shirt she saw in the same store. My jaw literally dropped. I had been saving for months for something I felt I needed for summer break, while she just buys something she wasn't even planning on buying, with daddy's money. Yes, at that moment I was jealous. But I still loved her as a friend.
I saw a documentary about Michael Jackson. They closed off the store to everyone else, and he walked around with his assistant and pointed to things he wanted. Then he left. It was all paid for and delivered.
I accompanied my friend to shop at a very luxurious place. The whole street was full of shops with pricetags probably more than I am worth :D I expected a similar behaviour as here. Especially given that I wasn't dressed fancy. The staff was the most friendly, helpful, non-judgy, well-mannered and soft spoken people I have ever dealt with
In a church setting, the person will use an envelope and discreetly place it in the dish. Other people will make a show of openly their wallets
This has nothing to do with wealth, but rather being ostentatious. The two are not the same.
That's what this thread is basically about. How different people work money express it. "Rich" being label flashing, ostentatious living..vs "wealthy"being humble and conservative
Load More Replies...If I'm not wrong, Jesus had to say some things about donating openly vs. discreetly.
He did. Matthew 6:1-4 “Be careful not to perform your righteous actsa before men to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their full reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
Load More Replies...In my church, the envelopes were used by members. It was the guest that opened their wallets. Envelopes were sent to the members.
This may have nothing to do with either. In the church I grew up in (Baptist) members were expected to strictly tithe. The envelopes had their membership info, and ofte extremely personal info about the money they had made that week (my grandfather was a contractor so it varied). Guests had no such expectation, and unless they brought their own, the members’ envelopes weren’t even an option. Kids were expected to offer what loose cash they could.
Is this America again? Literally every aspect of this ridiculous country...
Can be both, but more likely the former I would say.
Load More Replies...Members of a church are often issued donation envelopes each year - one for each week, plus envelopes for whatever regular annual appeals they have. Using the envelopes ensures that the donation is recorded in the person’s name so they can be sent a tax donation letter to use at tax time. Whether donating $1/wk or $1000/wk, no envelope = no tax deduction letter. Using one has nothing to do with someone’s net worth.
I live in a city full of wealthy landowners, and let me tell, you, you'll never see the rich folks flaunt their wealth, they always wear the simplest clothes, and wear only a watch ( a simple necklace if they're women), but the moment you meet them, you know they're rich without them having to show it to you.
I live in an area in the U.K. where everyone is wealthy. Landowners, financiers etc. Let me tell you, the richer they are the more busted their car is, they get it fixed but won’t buy a new one. Usually hoarders of some capacity, clothes are just kinda shabby and they have all the time in the world to pursue what actually interests them and that’s normally something niche that costs a bit to maintain the hobby. The more busted they look the richer they are usually.
You'd be surprised what some of them have tucked away in their garages. They might drive round in an old car, though they are usually pretty well looked after, but they frequently have classic cars that come out occasionally. I've met a few who look like they haven't two halfpennys to rub together, and at some point in the conversation it becomes apparant that they have several more rather valuable classics at home.
Because the last thing they want to do is bring undue attention on themselves. I can’t really blame them, considering the types of people who seemingly come out of the woodwork with their hands out, once they get wind of you having money. Besides, they want to be liked for themselves and not just their money. Can’t blame them for that either.
Load More Replies...Also UK, I’ve posted this before, elsewhere. When I was in St John Ambulance, a UK/Commonwealth voluntary First Aid organisation, we used to attend Point-to-Point horse racing. One of our younger members once commented on the flash cars in the car par, saying ‘Look at those; they must be rich.’ I replied that no, the banged-up old Land Rovers belong to the REALLY rich!
"I'm richer than he is; you can tell that my car is junkier! I only buy the best junk!"
The clothes they wear, doesn't matter if it's designer or thrift shop, everything fits them well and is clean. They can afford tailors, dry-cleaners, and stylists, and always look put-together.
In classical menswear, vintage suits or jackets are in high demand, but if you can, you alter them to fit. I would not describe myself as even remotely wealthy, but I found a really nice Harris Tweed jacket at a thriftshop once that became my favourite winter jacket after a few alterations. About 10$ for the jacket, about 30$ for the alterations, at least 60 years old, but it was totally worth it.
I like to shop for clothes at Goodwill-type stores closest to wealthy areas in town. Lots of really quality clothing for super cheap.
Load More Replies...Alot of people have a misconception if people look this way they have alot of money. Often that's not the case. They just have stupid credit card debt
actually I have a friend who hung out with Jeff Bridges daughter. He literally wore a robe around the house all the time, just like the Dude.
Quality of the food they eat or rather the amount of different types of food they have tried without seeing like a foodie
This is actually a factor that distinguishes every social class. Not just rich and wealthy. It's actually quite interesting.
Their shoes. Rich people may have designer shoes, but true wealthy people have shined, clean shoes.
If shoes are dented and overly polished down, that paradoxically often is a sure sign of high quality. Usually the first part fo a shoe to give in is the sole, so if the exterior looks "used, but cared for", that means that someone took the time and money to re-sole them, which means they already lasted longer than most cheap ones. A quality pair of goodyear welted oxfords can easily last thirty years if you regularly care for them.
I just googled "goodyear welted oxfords". Those look... uncomfortable. Give me some lightweight running shoes any day. I'll replace them more if it means my feet are happy.
Load More Replies...I look at peoples shoes, not the brand but how clean it is. If my husbands white sneakers were not clean on our blind date we would probably not had another date. He is such a neat beautiful man. In South-Africa you might see someone that probably walked miles to work, they wil make sure it is dust free and clean before going into work by wiping it. It shows tjat they take pride in themselves. I loved to watch my grandfather polish his shoes like a mirror on Saturdays. I hadcto polish my school shoes on sundays.
Good quality shoes that last several seasons > designer brands to flash a name. Don´t get me wrong, I love my Martens boots, but they were on sale (50%) and a present to boot.
Never buying furniture. You either inherit old and expensive pieces, or you hire a decorator to do it all for you.
I want to pick my own furniture to my liking. How would I know a couch is comfy or a chair is good to sit on unless I try it? How things feel is important to me, and to know how they feel you need to feel them.
"Ah, yes, these are the Chippendale chairs that Mummy got from Great Grandmother! What's an IKEA?"
Does this go for shirts? I inherited (as in stole from her closet) my mum´s shirt that has more holes than two humans together and it is the most comfortable thing in the world. Has to be hand-washed lest I want it to fall apart.
Consider finding a tailor to make you copies. Will be cheaper in long term.
Load More Replies...An expensive watch that isn’t a Rolex. Rolexes are how rich people, or not even rich but 'had-a-good-year' show off wealth to poor people. A truly wealthy person will have a Patek or AP Royal Oak or a Mueller, and not necessarily even a flashy one
it has a little crown symbol and the word "rolex" on it, but honestly, i don't get why they're so sought after, looks like every other nice watch.
Load More Replies...Patek Philippe is like peak watch quality. Those things are freaking expensive.
i buy the brands listed ((with the exception of rolex)) at burlington stores, for under $30 normally
30 Dollars won't get you even a bad fake Patek Philippe. To put it into perspective: The genuine article (Patek Philippe Nautilus) currently goes for 150 000. A gold AP royal oak can be double that. A Mueller Vanguard is more of a bargain: 30 000, but you can get a used one for 5 000 If you are lucky. A rolex is not even remotely in that category.
Load More Replies...That’s main stream rich. Truly wealthy wears a Roger Smith, a Gruebel Forsey or a Phillippe Dafour.
Those are a class of their own, as these are not produced in series but individually manufactured. They are very rarely seen, though - even the super rich tend to think twice before spending 300 000$ for a wristwatch.
Load More Replies...Casually saying stuff like it’s not the amount you earn, it’s how minimise the amount you spend. Whilst spending above 500 quid (GBP) on drinks for everyone on a night out from work.
Again, or they are simply trying to be the "big man/lady" of the party and it's just racking up more credit card debt they cannot pay
Often they simply do not think in terms of money. Our small company was in an upper-scale italian restaurant once, where he invited us for christmas. While we dined on saltimbocca, swordfish and fine wines, my gourmet boss simply ordered a pizza margarita - which was the cheapest item on the menu. His simple explanation: "I can cook everything on this menu myself, except for the pizza, I do not have a pizza oven".
I semi-regularly get taken to fancy restaurants as a perk of my job. Just from my observations: Wearing fancy clothes, getting 'dressed up' = not rich, has been taken somewhere expensive for work and/or can afford to be there for a special occasion (i.e. Me). Wearing understated but very well-cut clothes, groomed hair and makeup = Rich. Nothing to prove, this is their everyday lifestyle. Wearing shorts and flip flops, a t shirt and a bucket hat = Truely wealthy. They can wear whatever the the fuck they want, money talks! I was in a London high end hotel restaurant a few weeks ago and several customers seemed to fit these patterns.
But was the thread title says: money talks - but wealth whispers. Up from a certain level, people will be much more restrained again. Shorts or bucket hat would be out of place in more upscale places and such be considered vulgar. More likle y they will adopt a kind of "standard outfit" that will stand out as more relaxed but not so much that it will create a nuisance. Think Steve Job's turtleneck, Bill Gates' sweater/shirt tieless combi (ok, he DOES wear suits sometimes) or Mark Zuckerbergs simple unicolor tees.
This pisses me off. My husband and I went to a very nice restaurant in a hotel once for our anniversary. We fall into the 'can only afford it for a special occasion category'. The restaurant had a very clear dress code stated on their website. Most of the people who went made an effort to look nice, and after all, it's really nice to get a chance to dress up, yet they still let a local rapper and his posse in with them only wearing track suits and active wear.
You let that annoy you but really, why let it if you went for YOUR OWN pleasure?
Load More Replies...This one reminds me of that line from Terry Pratchett. "Women who were merely well-off saved up and bought dresses lined with lace and pearls, but Lady Sybil Ramkin was so rich she could afford to stomp around in gumboots and an old tweet skirt that had belonged to her mother."
It's great to be so well off for it so people won't say anything but is it appropriate to wear it to a restaurant for an occasion? My grandparents would say it disrespectful. Its like young people wearing pajamas everywhere now.. just not a right place and right time for it
Load More Replies...Some wear to downplay their wealth and some can only afford that.
They have a Steinway concert grand piano in their spacious living room that is perfectly maintained and tuned, even though no one in the house plays it. It sits discreetly and subtly in a corner of the room, like just another piece of furniture to fill the vast space
If they are truly wealthy and actually play, they may very well opt for a Fazioli.
I have an acquaintancy who is really wealthy (which I personally define as beyond rich). We share a hobby. We met by coincidence, being stuck in a place with nowhere to go for hours (think about an out-of-place airport with a broken down plane) and spent hours talking about this hobby (don't want to go in details here). During our disussions. I found that he uses some very expensive technology for this hobby. Talking about it, I found that he uses top end professional grade stuff, priced above the usual amateur stuff by factors between 20 and 50. I was wondering how someone can afford this 5 digit-stuff and googled his name. Found his profile on LinkedIn plus some news reports which showed that he is owner and Chairman of the Board for two businesses founded by his family over 100 years ago with meanwhile > 40,000 associates combined. From the outside, you couldn't tell. Nothing flashy, but always high quality stuff. We're still in contact, he doesn't live far away and we actually have a drink and a chat every now and then when we follow our common hobby. My car is actually more expensive than his. Plus more flashy. But I'm not wealthy, that's the difference. ;-) Over time, I met some of his friends who are equally wealthy. From that experience, I can tell that really wealthy people with "old money" won't flash their money around, are very friendly, nice to service-staff and don't show out of the crowd. You can just tell by the quality of their shoes (always a giveaway), their clothes and their household-appliances that they are wealthy.
Am I the only one who suspects the “hobby” in question is something very, very illicit?
Nah, I was thinking something aviation related, especially since they met at an airport, and we already know he doesn't drive a flashy car.
Load More Replies...my guess was something like astronomy, telescopes, that sort of thing....
Not being prosecuted for crimes.
this is so true. a lawyer friend of mine says it's only crime if you can't buy your way out of it. rich people can afford fines and fantastic lawyers. Some rich people commit small crimes constantly. Kendall Jenner constantly parks in handicapped stops because the tickets she gets are less than pocket change to her. There's never a bigger consequence like loss of license or jail time. Her insurance goes up...but when you have that kind of money you could care less.
My ex in laws have a very nice condo but not extravagant. After a few visits, I noticed a door that seemed out of place. Given the rooms around it, it was much larger than a typical closet. I finally asked. It was a climate and humidity controlled wine cellar. Easily 200 bottles that cost at least $40 minimum each. There was also a small humidor for their Cuban cigars under a poster for Scarface. It was awesome.
200 times 40 does not make for a huge sum that I would consider in the wealthy category, even if there are bottles among them that are more expensive. Well off, yes. Wealthy, no. Not if that is "the big give away".
perhaps it is the expense of casually having such a tailored space available that seems to place it in the 'wealthy' category...
Load More Replies...I used to drive Uber in Reno. A lot of wealthy people fly in there to go to Tahoe. Rich people all had a general sense of well-being I think. Whether it manifested as arrogance varied widely from person to person but they were never angry. There's a lot of crossover between the kindest people I had in my car and the wealthiest. Some guy who owned a factory that made skiis asked me to visit sometime and gave me his card lol I was too intimidated to follow through though. Another guy with some bicyclist apparel company had a pretty long conversation with me about biking. He was in town for a convention. I asked him how I could impress my girlfriend's bike obsessed father. He gave me his card and said "show him this." He was the fucking president or CEO or something. I talked shit about Californians (lightheartedly) with a rich guy from California and he laughed along and added more. Every single one of them tipped. If someone was just trying to seem wealthy they usually act standoffish like I shouldn't dare speak in their presence. Edit: Another guy with a power washing business actually told me to buy one and start one myself and walked me through how he did it lmao. He also laughed at me for hitting the brakes when bunnies crossed the road. He and his wife were both fun to just listen to. One of my favorites was a pair of fellas I was PISSED at the whole ride because halfway to the destination I got a call from the guy who I was actually supposed to pick up. I had to cancel and I drove them home but I was very openly not happy about it and felt like a doormat for driving them anyway. They were laughing and raucous and I was like fuck these guys played me and are laughing at me for it. Nah. I got almost $150 cash for a 20-30 minute ride.
The subtlety is in realizing this fact... Not all who "have everything" are rich. Many just have a huge income and huge debt to buy the nice houses and cars they have but not really a lot of money in savings, investments or liquid assets. So if you see it as I do, that the TRULY rich DO have large savings, investments and liquid assets, then here's your clue. They live where they want to, as any rich person would, and yet they don't drive all the same cars as the wannabe rich people do. Perhaps they do have a lot of nice expensive cars in the garage, but most of the time they put around town in a common car with little value because they like it and don't really care what other people think. A further sign of being rich in the same scenario is if you see their garage and find out they actually have TWO or more of that "common car" so that they will continue to have one if the other breaks down or gets wrecked. Plus they can drive them both and they last roughly twice as long. This may not stand at all for a rich "car guy", but for a regular old rich guy who doesn't care at all about riding in luxury, he won't. He's too mature to be keeping up with the Joneses and will gladly just drive something safe and reliable that blends in with the rest. Here's a bonus for you... Want a subtle sign that a person is fake rich? Massive income, massive debt, but no savings, investments, or assets... They likely live in the most expensive neighborhood, but not necessarily in the best house in the neighborhood. But they do drive some of the most expensive cars in the neighborhood, always wear designer clothes and are never home. Because if they quit working they lose it all.
"Rich" people are loud and obnoxious af. Wealthy people just live like if having so much money is normal. They basically don't care bout other people.
Not all super rich people buy fancy clothes, some just like to be comfortable. I once heard a saying that if you see a man in a Hawaiian shirt then odds are he is either the richest man in the room or the poorest.
Travel I think. Rich people often drive normal cars and wear normal clothes, but tend to be well travelled.
Yep, travel is expensive. Especially when you live on a small island that's away from everything.
Tell me about it. I'm trying to plan a modest vacation, and - yikes!
Load More Replies...I watched documentary about Bill Gates. He was chauffeured in Mercedes van. Not S-class EWB - that's just stands out. Grey van.
Not trying to impress others. When you’ve built your own financial success, you don’t feel the need to impress others. It’s always obvious who comes into new wealth because they spend frivolously and carelessly. People who have true wealth know that money doesn’t grow on trees. They didn’t attain their wealth by frivolously spending and showing off. It’s people who are chillin, low key, that are truly wealthy. They know people try to take advantage so they don’t advertise their wealth. They know better. People who come into new wealth have no idea how shitty people can be when they know you have a lot of money and think it’s fair game to try and claim part of it
They wear simple clothes but it looks so good on them.
Selling expensive items to close friends & family for well under market value. e.g. houses, trucks, motorcycles...
One thing I have noticed that separates the ten cent millionaires from billionaires is their kitchen. When I was staying at a certain private home, the time change made me wake early, so I went to the kitchen for some coffee. When I walked in, three of the staff stood up and said "can we help you?" Then led me to the room where coffee was set up. They exchanged looks. Really rich people have people who cook for them and the kitchen is more like a restaurant kitchen, not a place where you hang out but a place for the staff to hang out. Or at least very caterer-friendly.
Somehow I doubt this is universal. Even among the very wealthy, there must be those that enjoy cooking for themselves. Right?
This list is b******t. There are super rich people eating fast food because they like it or buying expensive cars because they want to. Wealth is not a personality trait.
I work with a few billionaires and more than ten millionaires. These are the things that I have noticed: 1. They do not talk about their personal wealth. 2. Their clothes fit so well. 3. They sometimes have unreasonable expectations for those of us that are not wealthy (like suggesting a restaurant for a meeting that would cost over $300 per person, and then being surprised that no one on the team eats there on a regular basis).
I am working at a family owned business with over 35.000 employees, the wife of the CEO was a very kind and simple lady, but she didn' t understand that I could not just take a plane from Germany to Boston to see the latest music show...
Load More Replies...I was born and raised simple/poor/very smart. For the former reason I have mostly always worked for very rich people. I have learned two things about these people. First, there is a HUGE difference between self made money people and inherited money people. I've always worked for the self made type and would not want to do what it takes to be that rich for anyone. 24/7 working. Giving your entire life to the almighty dollar. Never being able to trust the love/concern of others because you never know who is truly earnest in their love/concern and who is just trying to get at your wealth or get in your will. No matter how much you have it is never enough until it's so much that it can never be taken away and by that point it becomes inheritable wealth which brings along it's own set of issues/problems.
I have a friend that used to have an IT consulting business. At least one of his clients was uber wealthy. He bought a house in Florida and flew my friend out for 3 weeks to duplicate his home office setup. Computer, monitor, printer, etc. Friend told me the printer wasn't made anymore but couldn't just buy two new printers - one for each house. It took him a week to find a new one in a warehouse in Chicago and flew out there to pick it up. Guy didn't care about cost.
I knew someone whose family "owned" a table at their favorite restaurant. The table was always reserved... even if they only ate there twice a month. However, they had a list of "friends" and business associates, who were also allowed to use the table.
Goodness me. Such nonsense. Although the only one I agree with is spending money to save time.
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This list is b******t. There are super rich people eating fast food because they like it or buying expensive cars because they want to. Wealth is not a personality trait.
I work with a few billionaires and more than ten millionaires. These are the things that I have noticed: 1. They do not talk about their personal wealth. 2. Their clothes fit so well. 3. They sometimes have unreasonable expectations for those of us that are not wealthy (like suggesting a restaurant for a meeting that would cost over $300 per person, and then being surprised that no one on the team eats there on a regular basis).
I am working at a family owned business with over 35.000 employees, the wife of the CEO was a very kind and simple lady, but she didn' t understand that I could not just take a plane from Germany to Boston to see the latest music show...
Load More Replies...I was born and raised simple/poor/very smart. For the former reason I have mostly always worked for very rich people. I have learned two things about these people. First, there is a HUGE difference between self made money people and inherited money people. I've always worked for the self made type and would not want to do what it takes to be that rich for anyone. 24/7 working. Giving your entire life to the almighty dollar. Never being able to trust the love/concern of others because you never know who is truly earnest in their love/concern and who is just trying to get at your wealth or get in your will. No matter how much you have it is never enough until it's so much that it can never be taken away and by that point it becomes inheritable wealth which brings along it's own set of issues/problems.
I have a friend that used to have an IT consulting business. At least one of his clients was uber wealthy. He bought a house in Florida and flew my friend out for 3 weeks to duplicate his home office setup. Computer, monitor, printer, etc. Friend told me the printer wasn't made anymore but couldn't just buy two new printers - one for each house. It took him a week to find a new one in a warehouse in Chicago and flew out there to pick it up. Guy didn't care about cost.
I knew someone whose family "owned" a table at their favorite restaurant. The table was always reserved... even if they only ate there twice a month. However, they had a list of "friends" and business associates, who were also allowed to use the table.
Goodness me. Such nonsense. Although the only one I agree with is spending money to save time.
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