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Wife And Kids Expect Joyful Reunion Between Dad And Toxic Grandpa, He Surprises Them With Divorce
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Wife And Kids Expect Joyful Reunion Between Dad And Toxic Grandpa, He Surprises Them With Divorce

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A lot of how we are treated as kids reflects on our actions as adults. It can be the smallest of things, we never know. But there are some things we can never recover from. Whether it be facing bullies, fighting with siblings, or being ill-treated by a parent, these things are etched into our minds permanently and they shape our actions in the future.

Today’s article is a classic example of it where Reddit user These_Constant_7905 narrates how his grandpa was awful to his dad when he was a kid, so much so, that he refused to reconcile with him. And when the poster’s mom and siblings tried to force dad, he considered divorce over mending things with his father.

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The teen started the story by saying that his family of 7 had been estranged from his grandfather for years and that he never knew his grandma

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Grandpa was a toxic person who didn’t treat his dad right when he was a kid and it was still evident from dad’s actions when he made mistakes or even cried

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When grandpa reached out, the poster’s mom and siblings were excited and wanted to spend Christmas with him, but he and his dad didn’t want to, which the others didn’t like

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Even for his birthday, dad only celebrated it with the poster and refused to stay home as he knew the others were going to take him to grandpa, which he didn’t want at all

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Tired of their constant pushing to reconcile with grandpa, dad considered divorce and when the poster’s mom and siblings expected him to fix things, he said they had to live with their actions

In today’s story, our teen poster narrated the conundrum that struck his family. It all started when the original poster’s (OP) dad was a child. His mom passed away when he was at the tender age of 10 years and his father was not at all nice to him. Fast forward to the present, the poster said that his grandpa left such a negative impact on his dad that to date, he has always felt ashamed when he made a mistake or been disgusted with himself if he ever cried. Right at the beginning, our heart goes out to the poster’s dad, doesn’t it?

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Well, about three years ago, his grandpa reached out to his mom and siblings. They were excited and welcomed him to the family, but his dad refused to do the same. The siblings said that they had a right to know their grandpa and continued bonding with him, also dragging the teen with them. He obliged in the beginning but refused to go later.

The dad stood firm and stated that he would leave the house if his father stepped into it. Because of this, the poster’s mom always took the kids to their grandpa’s house. Come Christmas, they insisted that they wanted to spend it with their grandpa. However, OP and his dad refused. His mom called his dad “selfish” and also tried to force the teen to accompany them. But, his dad stepped in and said that he would spend Christmas with him. And this really upset them.

On the day of his father’s birthday, he took out the teen poster and they didn’t return home for the whole day. Dad did this purposely as he knew that the others would force him to meet and mend things with his father. When confronted about it by his mom, his dad replied that he didn’t trust the rest of the family and only trusted OP, so he only celebrated with him. 

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The poster’s mom’s and siblings’ constant pushing was finally a breaking point for his dad, and he wanted a divorce. Just imagine the amount of mental damage his toxic father did to him to make him take this huge step! Frightful, right? And when the family heard about the divorce consideration, they all panicked and ran to the poster. They expected him to fix things. However, he backed his father and said that they deserved the consequences of their actions and had to live with it. He also mentioned that the way they tried to manipulate his father was wrong and they should learn from it.

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In the comments, the poster spoke about how his dad was ill-treated as a child and the Redditors harshly called out the poster’s grandpa for it. According to a report published by Statista, 125,489 American children were harmed by their fathers in 2022. This number sounds horrifying and it looks like OP’s father is one such victim. And his refusal to mend things with his father sounds only fair. 

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WHO has stated, “Experiencing violence in childhood impacts lifelong health and well-being.” So, the father’s behavior must have impacted OP’s father greatly. Another study states that children who are harmed by their fathers experience a multitude of psychological traumas. This just makes us sympathize more with the teen’s dad, doesn’t it?

McLean Hospital has said that child harm can have a life-long impact on kids. As per them, “Childhood harm has mental and emotional consequences. Children who experience ill-treatment are more likely to develop anxiety, depression, and memory issues. Shame and guilt often also result, with children sometimes blaming themselves for the situation or viewing themselves as somehow defective. People who experienced childhood harm may have intrusive thoughts, flashbacks, and nightmares, which can be symptoms of PTSD. It can also result in emotional numbing, social isolation, and panic.”

Looking at this long list of the effects of child harm, we can get a slight idea of what the poster’s dad must be going through. Right at the beginning, OP mentioned that his dad feels ashamed if he makes any mistakes; this is a clear indicator of his mental health as described by McLean Hospital. And recovering from something so gruesome must be a real challenge that his dad must’ve faced growing up. 

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But when he finally put his terrible past behind him, he was again reminded about it when OP’s grandpa suddenly decided to get in touch. Netizens said that he was aware of the damage he was still doing to his son and had no remorse for it. Many of them also called out his mom for her atrocious behavior of making her husband go through all this. 

They suggested that it was her savior complex that was forcing her to do this. Healthline said, “Savior complex is a need to ‘save’ people by fixing their problems. It may have negative effects on your relationships.” And that’s exactly what is happening here. The mother ruined her relationship with her husband due to her need to save his bond with his father when in reality it was beyond saving.

All the Redditors expressed their sympathy to OP’s father and applauded him for standing up for himself after having been through something so traumatic and devastating. Do you agree with them? We would love to know your opinions, so just scroll down and drop them in the comments.

People online expressed their sympathies to the poster’s father and applauded him for standing up for himself, while they called out his mom’s unacceptable behavior

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MR
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let's be clear about something. If your partner has gone NC with a family member, attempting to force a reconciliation with that person is *not* a case where your heart is in the right place. It's callous and disrespectful. If someone goes NC, they're intentionally burning a bridge because they already know what's on the other side is not something they ever want to see again. Attempting to rebuild that bridge is you letting your morbid curiosity get the better of you while wanting to feel safer by dragging a permanently retired tour guide along with you.

Kitty Cat
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I especially love the "lets ambush the husband with a celebration where his father is suddenly there" behavior. How CRUEL can this wife/mother be?

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Paul C
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The wife has completely ignored the husband's needs and ignored his judgement on his father. Divorce is the logical consequence, as how could he ever trust her again?

Bernd Herbert
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot understand the wife here. Why is she hurting her husband to meet with a strange man? She absolutely had no relationship with him

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Sarah Léon
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My grandfather was a delight with anybody who could meet him. He built wooden houses or castle for his grandchildren, played with us, really he was the good guy ! Unless you were a girl around 4 to 8 and he could take you into a corner of the house and... well you see. He did it to his daughters and most of his grand-daughters too. Even his sons like my father didn't see anything. And when my mother discovered I was on of his victims, her first words were "but he is so nice !". Listen to your family. When they don't want to see someone, don't !

Jenny Mason
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so sorry that happened to you. I was r*ped and abused by one of my older brothers from age 4-8 and my mum did nothing about it even when I told her.

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KnightOwl
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been NC with my mum since I was 12 and honestly if anyone attempted something like this, I would instantly go NC with them too. Going no contact with a parent is always a difficult and complex decision (often coming with some intense guilt, loneliness, confusion and a lot of self doubt, especially when you do it when you're young and already dealing with a lot) but it's always a valid choice and should be respected, anyone who doesn't respect that doesn't deserve to be a part of your life. This woman has done everything completely wrong and has done irreparable damage to her relationship with her husband. She is 100% responsible for destroying her family, I just hope the other kids eventually realise that too.

Melissa Neubauer
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look at that, this man’s father is still abusing him. He knows it’s causing a rift and now divorce. Funny how older a-holes get scared to be alone and don’t care who gets hurt as long as they get what they want

Hope Tirendi
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your Mom wins AHOLE of the year award. Your siblings earned the moron award. They are being manipulated by your mom but still seem old enough to know better. Grandpa gets D**K of the year cause he knows what he did to his son and still doesn't care. He could have told her "sorry but my son doesn't want me around for good reason" but doesn't.

Your Mom
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a client who is deeply traumatized by his father. We couldn't get deep enough yet, so I don't know what is the root of this but he told me a lot of bad things his father did. He got very serious OCD. He has to wash everything and clean and sanitize himself all the time. He sold his car once because his father leaned on it. He can drive on routes where he knows his dad was driving. He can't go near his dad's house. He can meet his mom or his sibling because they are in contact with his dad. He talks on the phone sometimes with his sibling but he feels disgusted all the time. It could be difficult to understand to whom never experienced things like these. But if your spouse says they don't want to meet their parent or anyone, just accept it, and assume that they have a good reason to do so.

liam newton-harding
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The wife is just as much of an abuser as the grandfather. OP’, father should go ahead with the divorce, she is NOT going to learn.

Hannah Taylor
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whether or not the wife agreed with OP'S father, she should have at least been mature and sensitive enough to respect his desire to not reacquaint himself with his abuser. If he did that to her, it would be one hell of a shìtshow. In her and OP'S siblings' eyes, HE would be the abuser. Divorce is the only way to get the point across, and leave the others to themselves. They'll find out about Grandpa soon enough. Tigers can't change their stripes, and this man is no different.

Tabitha
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And why wait 17+ years (considering OP’s age) into the marriage to start? I could see a newlywed trying ONCE to convince their spouse to reconcile, because they don’t know any better. But if the spouse continually says NO, that should be the end of it. The undermining and recruiting of the younger kids to be her flying monkeys to try to guilt trip and thereby force her husband to rekindle a relationship with someone who obviously severely abused him his entire childhood, is the height of cruelty in my book, because she should, after 17 years, believe her husband when he tells her his consistent down to the minor details stories of how bad the abuse was that he got from his father his entire childhood—-and which still affects him to this day, as she daily witnesses his responses to minor things like making a mistake, or dropping or spilling something, which are blatantly obvious as old learned abuse/trauma responses—-and be standing by and protecting him, not trying to get him in the same room as his abuser. Basically, it makes her just as cruel, manipulative, and abusive as her FIL. Probably why she likes the old a*****e so much—-and obviously better than she likes her own husband. Time for OP and his dad to cut ties with the whole bunch. Believe me, my parents were like the old fart here. Long after we were all old enough to leave home and never have to go back, two of my brothers got back into contact with them. Of course, at first everything was all roses and my brothers thought maybe our parents had really changed. Nope. Of course they couldn’t keep up that act, and besides, it was just a manipulative tactic to draw their old targets for abuse back in, and it wasn’t long before their real selves came back out. So my brothers ONCE AGAIN severed ties with them, this time permanently. Both of my parents died never ever even hinting at apologizing for all the s**t they did to us kids. So this woman and the kids she’s fooled into having a relationship with their grandfather will be finding out pretty soon that her husband was 100% right about the old a*****e being abusive, because the mask will come off and this time she and her younger children will be his targets for it. Abuse she could’ve spared them all from but just believing her husband in the first place. She’ll be coming back, begging for her ex to take her and all the kids back. While the kids would be exceptions because they weren’t old enough to know better, I can pretty much predict the wife won’t be welcomed back at all, as she was the one who blew up her entire marriage for this b******t.

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TotallyNOTAFox
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like wife and siblings have the rose tinted glasses on that life is a movie and that people always change for the better in the end. The dad knows best if it's a good idea to reconnect, and if an abuse victim says no it's absolutely lethal for any relationship to push them towards the abuser. Carl von Clausewitz wrote a fitting quote: "In such dangerous things as war is, mistakes made out of good-heartedness are especially the worst"... well, metaphorically

Cheryl Cowie
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The grandfather took his childhood and now his family's support. The wife should be ashamed of herself.

Beak Hookage
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this wife evil or just really really really stupid? Good god, woman, get a clue! It's also entirely possibly the horrible grandfather manipulated her into it just so he could get at his son once again; abusers are amazingly good at that. I knew a guy who was like that. He was a complete selfish jerk (also ugly and definitely not rich) yet managed to have a string of girlfriends prepared to move in with (and eventually marry) him. I didn't understand it at all until someone told me that when he wanted to he was VERY good at laying on the charm. I'd just never seen him do it because he never wanted anything from me. So he felt free to be brusque and rude to me in the few times he bothered to communicate at all. I'm very impressed with this kid, who's clearly very smart and perceptive, and thank goodness the dad has at least one family member prepared to stick up for him.

Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is so incredibly twisted. Part of me has sympathy for the woman (just woman because not a single action listed was that of a wife or mother) but the perverse nature of basically continuing the abuse of her husband, by the person he's supposed to trust the most. Its beyond repulsive. He should divorce her, if only for the fact she proved beyond any doubt that she's either incredibly stupid and doesn't really love him, or she's outright evil.

Super Beast
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nc with my family for 8 years now. You bettsr believe ill cut you off if you become friendly with them. That is a good, empathetic kid.

Janine Blackburn
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4 months ago

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Patric Romesburg
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a similar experience but with my mother instead of my father. If my mother was still alive and if i had a significant other trying this c**p i would flat out tell them if they meet face to face even once then don't bother coming back to my house. All of their c**p will be out on the curb and all the locks would be changed.

Aurora Selene Silverthorne
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Divorce is understandable given the circumstances. I do hope OP's dad realizes that he is still responsible for 50% of the minor kids' financial needs. The mom has likely manipulated the other siblings as much as she has OP's dad. Mom is an AH for even suggesting OP's dad reconcile with his abuser. OP's likely going to college or university soon, so it's much easier for him to encourage a divorce. It won't affect him directly or as much as it will his minor siblings. I like to believe OP is just supporting his dad's decision and feelings, but I'm a skeptic, and it seems to me OP has a lot to gain if he's the only one close to dad. OP's dad may want to speak to the other siblings in detail when mom's not around and tell them what he went through with their grandfather. They need to know the whole truth even if it’s far from pretty or the mom will just continue to manipulate them and their feelings toward their dad, sibling, and their abusive grandfather.

Captive
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow that's wild. The wife Def shouldn't have done that. But a divorce? I wish it could've been solved differently but I dont blame the man

Mike F
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He put his reasons out there, he made it plain. The wife would be privy to the particulars, probably more so than the children. SHE BLEW HIM OFF. She as much as told the man that his experiences and the abuse he grew up with didn't mean anything, at all. She dismissed him and his emotions regarding this present circumstance and all of his past that culminated with his mother leaving with him. He knows exactly where he stands in the relationship, and he (rightly) decided that he needs to move on. FWIW, I'd support him fully.

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MR
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let's be clear about something. If your partner has gone NC with a family member, attempting to force a reconciliation with that person is *not* a case where your heart is in the right place. It's callous and disrespectful. If someone goes NC, they're intentionally burning a bridge because they already know what's on the other side is not something they ever want to see again. Attempting to rebuild that bridge is you letting your morbid curiosity get the better of you while wanting to feel safer by dragging a permanently retired tour guide along with you.

Kitty Cat
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I especially love the "lets ambush the husband with a celebration where his father is suddenly there" behavior. How CRUEL can this wife/mother be?

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Paul C
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The wife has completely ignored the husband's needs and ignored his judgement on his father. Divorce is the logical consequence, as how could he ever trust her again?

Bernd Herbert
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot understand the wife here. Why is she hurting her husband to meet with a strange man? She absolutely had no relationship with him

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Sarah Léon
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My grandfather was a delight with anybody who could meet him. He built wooden houses or castle for his grandchildren, played with us, really he was the good guy ! Unless you were a girl around 4 to 8 and he could take you into a corner of the house and... well you see. He did it to his daughters and most of his grand-daughters too. Even his sons like my father didn't see anything. And when my mother discovered I was on of his victims, her first words were "but he is so nice !". Listen to your family. When they don't want to see someone, don't !

Jenny Mason
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so sorry that happened to you. I was r*ped and abused by one of my older brothers from age 4-8 and my mum did nothing about it even when I told her.

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KnightOwl
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been NC with my mum since I was 12 and honestly if anyone attempted something like this, I would instantly go NC with them too. Going no contact with a parent is always a difficult and complex decision (often coming with some intense guilt, loneliness, confusion and a lot of self doubt, especially when you do it when you're young and already dealing with a lot) but it's always a valid choice and should be respected, anyone who doesn't respect that doesn't deserve to be a part of your life. This woman has done everything completely wrong and has done irreparable damage to her relationship with her husband. She is 100% responsible for destroying her family, I just hope the other kids eventually realise that too.

Melissa Neubauer
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look at that, this man’s father is still abusing him. He knows it’s causing a rift and now divorce. Funny how older a-holes get scared to be alone and don’t care who gets hurt as long as they get what they want

Hope Tirendi
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your Mom wins AHOLE of the year award. Your siblings earned the moron award. They are being manipulated by your mom but still seem old enough to know better. Grandpa gets D**K of the year cause he knows what he did to his son and still doesn't care. He could have told her "sorry but my son doesn't want me around for good reason" but doesn't.

Your Mom
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a client who is deeply traumatized by his father. We couldn't get deep enough yet, so I don't know what is the root of this but he told me a lot of bad things his father did. He got very serious OCD. He has to wash everything and clean and sanitize himself all the time. He sold his car once because his father leaned on it. He can drive on routes where he knows his dad was driving. He can't go near his dad's house. He can meet his mom or his sibling because they are in contact with his dad. He talks on the phone sometimes with his sibling but he feels disgusted all the time. It could be difficult to understand to whom never experienced things like these. But if your spouse says they don't want to meet their parent or anyone, just accept it, and assume that they have a good reason to do so.

liam newton-harding
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The wife is just as much of an abuser as the grandfather. OP’, father should go ahead with the divorce, she is NOT going to learn.

Hannah Taylor
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whether or not the wife agreed with OP'S father, she should have at least been mature and sensitive enough to respect his desire to not reacquaint himself with his abuser. If he did that to her, it would be one hell of a shìtshow. In her and OP'S siblings' eyes, HE would be the abuser. Divorce is the only way to get the point across, and leave the others to themselves. They'll find out about Grandpa soon enough. Tigers can't change their stripes, and this man is no different.

Tabitha
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And why wait 17+ years (considering OP’s age) into the marriage to start? I could see a newlywed trying ONCE to convince their spouse to reconcile, because they don’t know any better. But if the spouse continually says NO, that should be the end of it. The undermining and recruiting of the younger kids to be her flying monkeys to try to guilt trip and thereby force her husband to rekindle a relationship with someone who obviously severely abused him his entire childhood, is the height of cruelty in my book, because she should, after 17 years, believe her husband when he tells her his consistent down to the minor details stories of how bad the abuse was that he got from his father his entire childhood—-and which still affects him to this day, as she daily witnesses his responses to minor things like making a mistake, or dropping or spilling something, which are blatantly obvious as old learned abuse/trauma responses—-and be standing by and protecting him, not trying to get him in the same room as his abuser. Basically, it makes her just as cruel, manipulative, and abusive as her FIL. Probably why she likes the old a*****e so much—-and obviously better than she likes her own husband. Time for OP and his dad to cut ties with the whole bunch. Believe me, my parents were like the old fart here. Long after we were all old enough to leave home and never have to go back, two of my brothers got back into contact with them. Of course, at first everything was all roses and my brothers thought maybe our parents had really changed. Nope. Of course they couldn’t keep up that act, and besides, it was just a manipulative tactic to draw their old targets for abuse back in, and it wasn’t long before their real selves came back out. So my brothers ONCE AGAIN severed ties with them, this time permanently. Both of my parents died never ever even hinting at apologizing for all the s**t they did to us kids. So this woman and the kids she’s fooled into having a relationship with their grandfather will be finding out pretty soon that her husband was 100% right about the old a*****e being abusive, because the mask will come off and this time she and her younger children will be his targets for it. Abuse she could’ve spared them all from but just believing her husband in the first place. She’ll be coming back, begging for her ex to take her and all the kids back. While the kids would be exceptions because they weren’t old enough to know better, I can pretty much predict the wife won’t be welcomed back at all, as she was the one who blew up her entire marriage for this b******t.

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TotallyNOTAFox
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like wife and siblings have the rose tinted glasses on that life is a movie and that people always change for the better in the end. The dad knows best if it's a good idea to reconnect, and if an abuse victim says no it's absolutely lethal for any relationship to push them towards the abuser. Carl von Clausewitz wrote a fitting quote: "In such dangerous things as war is, mistakes made out of good-heartedness are especially the worst"... well, metaphorically

Cheryl Cowie
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The grandfather took his childhood and now his family's support. The wife should be ashamed of herself.

Beak Hookage
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this wife evil or just really really really stupid? Good god, woman, get a clue! It's also entirely possibly the horrible grandfather manipulated her into it just so he could get at his son once again; abusers are amazingly good at that. I knew a guy who was like that. He was a complete selfish jerk (also ugly and definitely not rich) yet managed to have a string of girlfriends prepared to move in with (and eventually marry) him. I didn't understand it at all until someone told me that when he wanted to he was VERY good at laying on the charm. I'd just never seen him do it because he never wanted anything from me. So he felt free to be brusque and rude to me in the few times he bothered to communicate at all. I'm very impressed with this kid, who's clearly very smart and perceptive, and thank goodness the dad has at least one family member prepared to stick up for him.

Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is so incredibly twisted. Part of me has sympathy for the woman (just woman because not a single action listed was that of a wife or mother) but the perverse nature of basically continuing the abuse of her husband, by the person he's supposed to trust the most. Its beyond repulsive. He should divorce her, if only for the fact she proved beyond any doubt that she's either incredibly stupid and doesn't really love him, or she's outright evil.

Super Beast
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nc with my family for 8 years now. You bettsr believe ill cut you off if you become friendly with them. That is a good, empathetic kid.

Janine Blackburn
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4 months ago

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Patric Romesburg
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a similar experience but with my mother instead of my father. If my mother was still alive and if i had a significant other trying this c**p i would flat out tell them if they meet face to face even once then don't bother coming back to my house. All of their c**p will be out on the curb and all the locks would be changed.

Aurora Selene Silverthorne
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Divorce is understandable given the circumstances. I do hope OP's dad realizes that he is still responsible for 50% of the minor kids' financial needs. The mom has likely manipulated the other siblings as much as she has OP's dad. Mom is an AH for even suggesting OP's dad reconcile with his abuser. OP's likely going to college or university soon, so it's much easier for him to encourage a divorce. It won't affect him directly or as much as it will his minor siblings. I like to believe OP is just supporting his dad's decision and feelings, but I'm a skeptic, and it seems to me OP has a lot to gain if he's the only one close to dad. OP's dad may want to speak to the other siblings in detail when mom's not around and tell them what he went through with their grandfather. They need to know the whole truth even if it’s far from pretty or the mom will just continue to manipulate them and their feelings toward their dad, sibling, and their abusive grandfather.

Captive
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow that's wild. The wife Def shouldn't have done that. But a divorce? I wish it could've been solved differently but I dont blame the man

Mike F
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He put his reasons out there, he made it plain. The wife would be privy to the particulars, probably more so than the children. SHE BLEW HIM OFF. She as much as told the man that his experiences and the abuse he grew up with didn't mean anything, at all. She dismissed him and his emotions regarding this present circumstance and all of his past that culminated with his mother leaving with him. He knows exactly where he stands in the relationship, and he (rightly) decided that he needs to move on. FWIW, I'd support him fully.

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