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Mom Realizes Her Teen Son Was Red-Pilled, Makes Him Change His Mind With Facts And Logic
Mom Realizes Her Teen Son Was Red-Pilled, Makes Him Change His Mind With Facts And Logic
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Mom Realizes Her Teen Son Was Red-Pilled, Makes Him Change His Mind With Facts And Logic

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A mom has gone viral on TikTok for sharing how she found out her son had been “red-pilled“, and what she did about it. In case you’re not familiar with the term, “red-pilling,” it refers to men embracing the idea that their unhappiness and failure to “score” is the fault of women and feminists. In short: misogyny.

The parent, who goes by @rchlprkr, spoke about how her son confidently blurted out that “women are gold diggers”. She then explained in detail how she responded to him. And how, in her words, she “successfully ‘de-pilled’ her ‘red-pilled’ son.” The video has been liked more than 279,000 times since it was posted. It’s well worth a watch, even if you aren’t a mom. Or don’t have a son. Bored Panda reached out to Dr. Sarah Lamer, an assistant professor of social psychology who has done extensive research on gender stereotyping. She gave us some advice on how to protect children from harmful misogynistic discourse.

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    There are many dangers lurking on the internet and one of them comes in the form of “red-pilling”

    Woman discussing misogynistic beliefs and red-pill ideology in a video response, wearing glasses and a blue shirt.

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    When one mom realized her son was beginning to pick up misogynistic beliefs from online videos, she dealt with it immediately

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    Woman challenges son's misogynistic beliefs about "gold diggers," questioning societal stereotypes in a candid video.

    Image credits: rchlprkr

    Image credits: rchlprkr

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    You can watch the mom’s whole video here:

    @rchlprkr Replying to @littlepoolo #parenting#depilling♬ original sound – ✨IAmRchlPrkr✨

    Swallow the “red pill” and digest a false narrative that women are to blame for your failures…

    Mother and son discussing views on women and challenging misogynistic beliefs in a modern living room.

    Image credits: valeriygoncharukphoto (not the actual photo)

    You might remember the idea of the “red pill and blue pill” from the 1999 science fiction blockbuster The Matrix. According to Britannica, “the pills represented a choice between remaining in a state of blissful ignorance (blue) or accepting a painful reality (red).”

    But since then, the red pill has taken on a life of its own. “My understanding is that red-pilling refers to a radicalizing paradigm shift, causing someone to think about the world in an entirely different way. In the context of our current political environment, it is most often applied to a conservative paradigm shift,” Dr. Sarah Lamer told Bored Panda when we reached out to her. Lamer is an assistant professor of social psychology at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville. She’s done extensive research on gender stereotyping and is considered an expert in the field.

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    Lamer tells Bored Panda that children learn about gender very early in life. But their ideas about what girls and boys are supposed to do, especially how they are supposed to look, typically become very rigid between 3 and 5 years. “It is also around 5 when children seem to learn about the relative status of women and girls versus men and boys,” says Lamer.

    The expert says gender roles are so ingrained in our society that they are socialized strongly in childhood. “Gendered patterns exist everywhere, from clothing to media to how adults talk to girls vs. boys,” she told us.

    Being vigilant about the patterns children are seeing is important, says Lamer. “I like to switch the pronouns in children’s books and songs whenever I encounter them. Not only does it reverse the pattern for children, but it also alerts you as the adult to subtle ways that gender stereotypes are getting into children’s environments,” she explained. “For example, are they seeing women in high-status roles? Are they seeing only men as superheroes? Even an imbalance in the distribution of household labor is thought to contribute to children’s gender role beliefs at an early age.”

    We asked Lamer how to respond to a young boy saying something like “women are gold diggers“… The expert said she’d challenge the child to walk through their thinking. “The boy acquired that belief from somewhere — perhaps an adult said it, it was mentioned in a television show, or it was shared among peers,” Lamer explained.

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    “Helping the child understand the illogical nature of the statement (e.g., certainly there are women who are not gold diggers — the boy’s mom, aunt, teacher) and perhaps where they learned that illogical belief (e.g., a single statement or example). Depending on the child’s age, you can also discuss gender stereotypes broadly and some of the problematic ways that women and men are portrayed — e.g., men as emotionally inexpressive or angry and women as oversexualized and objectified.”

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    The term red-pilling is often associated with alt-right circles and the so-called “manosphere.” If you aren’t familiar with that term, it refers to an international network of social media influencers and online communities that promote male supremacy and antifeminist ideologies. It’s filled with misogyny, toxic masculinity and hateful ideas about women.

    Think Andrew Tate, the infamous social media influencer who was arrested on serious charges of crimes against women, and is still on trial, alongside his brother Tristan. “Women should clean up,” Andrew Tate once told his young male followers. “Not only should women clean up, women should clean up unprompted.”

    According to a U.S. Congress report, it was statements like these that saw hoards of young men putting Tate on a pedestal. “It didn’t matter if his advice was crude, sexual, or hateful; Tate made a fortune making himself synonymous with the manosphere – a far-right community that recruits susceptible young men with toxic masculinity and misogyny,” reads the report.

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    Image credits: Julia M Cameron (not the actual photo)

    It’s guys like Tate who hand out red pills to anyone who will listen, feeding guys the false narrative that their own failures are not their fault but rather the work of women and feminists. CNN reports that Tate’s TikTok account racked up around 11.6 billion views before it was taken down, and he was banned from the platform.

    The government report warns that manosphere influencers use their “isolated and indoctrinated community members” to profit, “often selling self-help and guru-style assistance for a price and to keep a steady revenue stream.” It notes a clear connection between the manosphere community and cryptocurrency traders, saying the group has a profit-driven mindset dubbed “the grindset.”

    “Men usually flock to the manosphere because they are unhappy in some way and searching for a sense of belonging, and younger audiences are drawn in by a similar need,” Brette Steele, senior director for Preventing Targeted Violence at the McCain Institute, told CNN.

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    Steele added that youth are searching for that “sense of belonging, that kind of grounding to explain what’s happening to them.” The expert warned that as more young men turn to the manosphere, “we’ve seen a degradation of in-person social skills, and in middle school, that’s when those social skills are first coming into play.”

    Lamer warns that screen time can influence a child’s beliefs. “There are several scientific theories on this, and numerous studies support the idea that what people see in the media impacts their beliefs,” the expert told Bored Panda. “My own research suggests that just a few minutes of exposure to a pattern in children’s television can cause girls to feel more pressure to conform to traditional feminine norms (e.g., playing with ‘girl toys’).”

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    Lamer says it’s best to err on the side of caution. And try to be proactive in guiding media consumption. “For example, when consuming media, I try to be attentive to gender stereotypical representations and explicitly draw my attention to those biases whether watching something myself or with others,” she explained.

    Many commented on how hard it must be to raise boys nowadays

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    Bailey
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her views are pretty bad unhealthy too. No mention that the majority of women work for their own money, there are plenty of instances where the woman is the one earning more in a relationship, or that in relationships a lot of people consider finances to be shared because they are partners and love each other. Instead men "don't mind" spending money because it makes her look good, and people complaining are just too poor. She should be teaching him about healthy relationships, and not that not all women are "gold diggers" because looks at all the woman who date poor people

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What’s breaking my heart is that she’s awfully stupid (she types like a teen, inserting “like” everywhere she can and generally displaying ignorance and a low IQ) and that it appears she’s getting a lotta traction. Had we not been told upfront that she’s a mother of an adult, I’d have assumed she was a teen. Her one saving grace is that she’s TRYING to go in the right direction; she’s just doing a poor job of it. I’ve thought for some time now that teaching the ol’ “reading, writing, and ‘rithmatic’” to kids is no longer sufficient, that we need to START their education with logical and critical thinking skills, because without it, we end up with “Q” believers, antivaxers, Trump supporters, racists, and everything else bad. Starting kids off with the right thought processes, they can discern whether what they’re taught sounds right to them, and then they can determine when they’re being told a pack of lies. 😞

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    walkabout
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my new favorite things is to disarm strawman arguments simply by asking, “Who said/did this? What people? Whose everyone?”

    Nova Rook
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Trump government worked to secure freedom for Tate while was being held for Sexual A*****t and Trafficking.

    Jaybird3939
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And within a few days of being back in the US, he was arrested for trying to choke his girlfriend while they were having s*x. Thanks trumpski for flying him back to the US. Great guy!

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    Joe Bloe
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "The only people who begrudge women Who want to have money spent on them is men who don't have money but still want that woman. They want her to drop their standards for him even though he can't provide the lifestyle she wants and expects." This part really confused me. She says women are gold diggers, and men are begrudge because they can't provide enough money to them, that's why they call them gold diggers?!? She kind of prove his point. This is so wrong! The vast majority of women, and men, want to be independent and not be supported by someone else. They also like to make gifts for the one they love. Love is above gift, not the other way around...

    Biofish23
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem with tic-toc videos is they lack nuance. She says it was only the beginning of the conversation, and people are picking apart her comments on lifestyle and standards. It's not necessarily about wanting someone to hand you a life of luxury, it's about shared values including financial. Way back when I was 20ish I was dating a boy about my age. He had done the bare minimum to graduate highschool, and while he did have a job, he had no particular educational or career aspirations. Meanwhile I was a college student working toward a STEM degree. While there were multiple reasons I broke up with him one of them was thinking ahead imagining what raising a family with him would be like. Either I'd be carrying the whole load by myself or we'd live a life of just barely scraping by. I didn't want that. A few weeks after we broke up I started dating a different boy. This one was an engineering student. I've been married to him for almost 20 years now.

    Biofish23
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The engineering student i married had absolutely no money and quite a lot of debt when we got married, but we had shared values about the lifestyle we wanted to work toward together. Which is one of the things that made us compatible long term. We're still not "rich ", but we've built a stable middle class life. I don't think this makes me a gold digger, but by some of these red-pillers I suppose I would be.

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    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These boys will grow up acting like a******s and then cry about how women won't date nice guys. Instead of seeing the correlation, it'll confirm for them what all these red pill grifters have ever said. The one saving grace is many of the biggest alpha male d*****t influences seem to be losing influence and are being seen more and more as cringe. Obviously they're still a major problem and it's not going away soon but seeing "alpha male" Andrew Tate sue Twitter accounts for being mean to him and then going on podcasts and literally whining about it will hopefully open more of these kids' eyes.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the video, she defends gold diggers, which doesn't make her seem to be a good parent.

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    Roxy222uk
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where the f.u.c.k. are the men/fathers commenting on this matter. Until Dads get their collective s.h.i.t. together this is never going to properly improve.

    The_Nicest_Misanthrope
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't wait til we annihilate ourselves as a species....

    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How come if you speak out against a certain race of people, you're called out on it, and marked as evil? But when you speak out against the female of the species, and how they're not even worthy of being human, nobody cares, and actually worships you? Why is the human female so universally disrespected and hated?

    Lara Verne
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention there's plenty of gold digging men.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    8 months ago

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    Gold digging men have a hard time finding a woman to support them. Unfortunately we live in a culture that expects men to support women.

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    Bailey
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her views are pretty bad unhealthy too. No mention that the majority of women work for their own money, there are plenty of instances where the woman is the one earning more in a relationship, or that in relationships a lot of people consider finances to be shared because they are partners and love each other. Instead men "don't mind" spending money because it makes her look good, and people complaining are just too poor. She should be teaching him about healthy relationships, and not that not all women are "gold diggers" because looks at all the woman who date poor people

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What’s breaking my heart is that she’s awfully stupid (she types like a teen, inserting “like” everywhere she can and generally displaying ignorance and a low IQ) and that it appears she’s getting a lotta traction. Had we not been told upfront that she’s a mother of an adult, I’d have assumed she was a teen. Her one saving grace is that she’s TRYING to go in the right direction; she’s just doing a poor job of it. I’ve thought for some time now that teaching the ol’ “reading, writing, and ‘rithmatic’” to kids is no longer sufficient, that we need to START their education with logical and critical thinking skills, because without it, we end up with “Q” believers, antivaxers, Trump supporters, racists, and everything else bad. Starting kids off with the right thought processes, they can discern whether what they’re taught sounds right to them, and then they can determine when they’re being told a pack of lies. 😞

    Load More Replies...
    walkabout
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my new favorite things is to disarm strawman arguments simply by asking, “Who said/did this? What people? Whose everyone?”

    Nova Rook
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Trump government worked to secure freedom for Tate while was being held for Sexual A*****t and Trafficking.

    Jaybird3939
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And within a few days of being back in the US, he was arrested for trying to choke his girlfriend while they were having s*x. Thanks trumpski for flying him back to the US. Great guy!

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    Joe Bloe
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "The only people who begrudge women Who want to have money spent on them is men who don't have money but still want that woman. They want her to drop their standards for him even though he can't provide the lifestyle she wants and expects." This part really confused me. She says women are gold diggers, and men are begrudge because they can't provide enough money to them, that's why they call them gold diggers?!? She kind of prove his point. This is so wrong! The vast majority of women, and men, want to be independent and not be supported by someone else. They also like to make gifts for the one they love. Love is above gift, not the other way around...

    Biofish23
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem with tic-toc videos is they lack nuance. She says it was only the beginning of the conversation, and people are picking apart her comments on lifestyle and standards. It's not necessarily about wanting someone to hand you a life of luxury, it's about shared values including financial. Way back when I was 20ish I was dating a boy about my age. He had done the bare minimum to graduate highschool, and while he did have a job, he had no particular educational or career aspirations. Meanwhile I was a college student working toward a STEM degree. While there were multiple reasons I broke up with him one of them was thinking ahead imagining what raising a family with him would be like. Either I'd be carrying the whole load by myself or we'd live a life of just barely scraping by. I didn't want that. A few weeks after we broke up I started dating a different boy. This one was an engineering student. I've been married to him for almost 20 years now.

    Biofish23
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The engineering student i married had absolutely no money and quite a lot of debt when we got married, but we had shared values about the lifestyle we wanted to work toward together. Which is one of the things that made us compatible long term. We're still not "rich ", but we've built a stable middle class life. I don't think this makes me a gold digger, but by some of these red-pillers I suppose I would be.

    Load More Replies...
    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These boys will grow up acting like a******s and then cry about how women won't date nice guys. Instead of seeing the correlation, it'll confirm for them what all these red pill grifters have ever said. The one saving grace is many of the biggest alpha male d*****t influences seem to be losing influence and are being seen more and more as cringe. Obviously they're still a major problem and it's not going away soon but seeing "alpha male" Andrew Tate sue Twitter accounts for being mean to him and then going on podcasts and literally whining about it will hopefully open more of these kids' eyes.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the video, she defends gold diggers, which doesn't make her seem to be a good parent.

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    Roxy222uk
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where the f.u.c.k. are the men/fathers commenting on this matter. Until Dads get their collective s.h.i.t. together this is never going to properly improve.

    The_Nicest_Misanthrope
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't wait til we annihilate ourselves as a species....

    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How come if you speak out against a certain race of people, you're called out on it, and marked as evil? But when you speak out against the female of the species, and how they're not even worthy of being human, nobody cares, and actually worships you? Why is the human female so universally disrespected and hated?

    Lara Verne
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention there's plenty of gold digging men.

    Luke Oakridge
    Community Member
    8 months ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    Gold digging men have a hard time finding a woman to support them. Unfortunately we live in a culture that expects men to support women.

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