YTA must be jealous that this man follows God's law where marriage is concerned. "A man is to leave his father and mother and cling to his wife."

So, I don't think we have to look hard to figure out why "mom's" marriage is failing. She's deeply stupid, entirely self absorbed and has no self control. I don't think I'd want a woman like that anywhere near any potential children I had. She a terrible example of a woman and a human being. It's best just to go no contact and move on. They''ll be happier without having to engage in the drama of an obvious narcissist. I'd tell sister that if she has a problem with that, there's plenty of room on the "no contact bus" for her too.

I hope the mother doesn't expect to have any contact to her grandchild, if there ever is one. After all, it was not conceived naturally and not by God's will (how does she know what God wants anyway?)

I hope to hell or highwater this YTA fuggnut will never have kids, whether wanted or not. I'm not a parent but I've seen my fair share of people struggling with conceiving, emphasis on struggling. Rather than be a superficially pious POS, mother should have appreciated OP and wife's efforts in giving her a grandchild and along with it, a legacy. If that superficial excuse of a mother is so adamant on a natural birth, maybe she ought to force her equally cr*ptrap daughter to pop one out instead. People, ugh!!!

keep...your...nose...out...of...others...business!

Imagine you are in front of god and telling them. "You made people that have no "purpose". So I can throw them away for those who you made with "purpose" right! Even as they try to fix your intentional mistake... they are wrong in doing so... they have to suffer because that is what you want!" Imagine a god exists... Imagine they are actually virtuous and good... You create something with a free will that despite your omnipotence, you can't predict...and they hit you with morality and logic of that level... Are certain humans just incapable of understanding that unless they try to understand and analyise something there is no way to know if it is good or evil...

Ok, let me put it this way as an ex-chritian athiest, i don't beleive in this gods will is all pregnancies must be through natural conception. if it wasn't gods will that people have IVF, then her god would have insured NONE of the early IVF methods worked, absoultely none, all the way down the line. and when it is god's will, the process works, without having to resort to surrogacy and donor eggs, simple. then point out alledgely god's into artifical conception ergo, the so called virgin Mary, who was alledgedly artifically impregnanted, to produce jesus, because they made such a big freaking deal out of her virginsl status, as a mother, right. so god put the idea of artifical conception into peoples heads, (not the bible did that). simple, end of story.

YTAs man.... wowzers. There is no universe where OP is the AH here.

OP, NTA - you've have had conversations before with your mom & she won't back off so she's now found out what the consequences are of disrespecting you & your wife, out of her concern for what's best for you. Huh, so, SHE knows what's best for you & you don't. You're a wonderful husband for standing up for what YOU & your WIFE have decided to do, which is nobody else's business. Of course, your wife is getting the blame for everything & she doesn't need the stress. It's a blessing that things came to a head & mom is out of the house. Do not let her come back. And when you do have a child via IVF or some other method, what is her attitude toward your precious baby going to be? "Spawn of Satan"? It's not what a YTA said abt "old people" (FFS she's 52) having different ideas - she's gotten into some kind of wacky religion. I'm not particularly religious but it's pretty easy to stop people in their illogical tracks when they decide they can speak as to God's or Jesus' will or wishes: "Mom, who do you think put doctors on Earth & gave them the knowledge & ability to help people with things like this?" "Mom, I know how much you want to have grandchildren & I wonder if He's working thru us, not being able to have a child yet, to punish you for something." "Where exactly is it in the Bible that yells how you're supposed to conceive?" Sure, she's"having a hard time" & "is family," but family should treat each other with at least as much respect as they'd give anybody else. Best to you both.

Anorexia has most likely damaged her hormonal balance for good. They may need to look into surrogacy (if legal in their country) or adoption.

NTA. Dear old mom will just have to seek life elsewhere if she insists on behaving like this to the very people providing a roof over her head.

NTA, it was "God's Will" that he should kick out this idiot mother. Two can play that game.

danhemmington, this isn't the 1500s fool, the fact that idiots says it's gods will is an absolute disgrace! Any woman in this day and age that believes that infertility is a woman's problem are clueless and disgusting! She's 52 not 92 and even then, you have to be pretty stupid to believe it's all a woman's fault. You can't treat your sons wife like this over and over again a keep getting away with it. The fact that the wife is getting the blame for being kicked out by his own sister, shows she's got the same thoughts! The "gods will" is an absolute load of shite anyway! Anyone who lives by gods will are toxic in the extreme. Who do people like think they are? Insufferable uneducated idiots some of them!

I hate these obviously either fake stories or they are written in a way so they can read all the admiration they get. Of course he doesn't wonder if he is the AH just off of how he wrote the thing. He knows his mom is out of line, he kicked her out, and went on to let us know he only respects and defends his wife always. And supposedly bc the sister called him an AH now he's questioning everything? Nah, it's either fake or he wants some praise from the internet. Also bf ppl come at me and say how I'm a cynic or whatever I have seen people prove that they were the author of dozens and dozens of AITA Reddit posts all with diff names, situations, gender, etc etc. just fake.