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Depending on one’s life experience, it can be easy to overlook all the little and not-so-little things one goes through on a daily basis. This can range from the logistics of standing versus sitting when going to the bathroom, all the way to how societal pressures manifest and how different people deal with it. 

A netizen asked men to share struggles and difficulties that they believe women could simply never understand. From comical to deeply personal, men across the internet shared their thoughts and emotions. So be sure to upvote your favorites and comment your thoughts below. 

#1

Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man I was the victim of domestic violence, and was laughed out of the police station when I attempted to report it.

swaytan66 , Mental Health America (MHA) Report

Con O Cuinn
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's worse if you try report it while it's happening. Good chance you'll be the one who gets arrested

unfilteredCigarette73
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the US you might end up with a police bullet inside of you

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Will Cable
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Years ago there was a late night TV programme in the UK, it featured several men who were the victims of domestic violence, one reported how he had been stabbed by their partner with a pair of scissors and other men reported how their partner would hit and beat them and when the police did arrive the woman claimed he was the one that assaulted her, the audience thought it was so funny hearing these reports. It was shocking and it seems things haven't changed at all.

Tracy Wallick
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I've never heard of a woman being laughed at, it is pretty common for women not to be believed. We do understand, to an extent. I'm so sorry that this happened to you.

Megan
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2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks, and as a women who was nearly sex traffiked in middle school, i have seen Boys being victims of the predators (one of which was female), I can attest to how under acknowledged this problem is, especially for men. Not to mention cops wont act on the heap of info on the predators (a year and some months of chats, one of their chat rooms, video calls and their trust), But they go after innocent men who do not have protection unlike these predators just cause they are male?! Edit: a -> as

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JB
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are many women who have had the same experience!

Weasel Wise
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

VERY REAL! This happened last month to my cousin in NY; his ex gf came to house and started a fight which led to her attacking him with punches and scratching. He had to push her out of his house cuz she wouldn't leave and then she started slamming her head against the closed door. My cousin called me crying cuz he couldn't do anything and knew he would be cuffed if he called police cuz she had red marks on her forehead...from smashing her head against a door. Unfortunately, women are seen as defenseless to a highly detrimental degree.

Blue Bunny of Happiness
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hopefully, this is changing (although probably not fast enough) and anyone who is the victim of domestic abuse is being believed and offered support. We need to continue to break down the stereotyping of victims.

JK
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The worse thing is, this happens more often than people think, and worse still is how many cases go unreported because of fear that the victim will get this treatment. Abuse is abuse, regardless of gender.

Vihra Stancheva
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same happens to women. We do understand it.

Jaya
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so sorry. As a society we don't give male victims of domestic abuse or sexual abuse the support they need and deserve, we really have to change that.

Crescent 3
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as a domestic violence victim's advocate for several years. I was the only man in my county doing that kind of direct victim services in the field. In the four years I did that job, eventually become the Assistant Director of my agency, I only ever saw one other male advocate at meeting in the entire state. Approximately 15% of REPORTED DV cases involve male victims, and that number is low because men underreport for the very reasons stated in this post.

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    #2

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man If you don't open up about your feelings you're a toxic man. If you do, you're either being rude or being a pu**y. We're only supposed to have the CORRECT feelings, at the correct time, at everyone else's convenience.

    Kiv____ , Ron Lach Report

    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you for sharing this frustration. The women who put you down for being emotionally vulnerable are contributing to toxic masculinity and you're better off without them. Being comfortable talking about your feelings is a healthy HUMAN trait - be healthy, and go find healthy😘

    The Short Lady
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men need to learn to open up to each other and not rely solely on women for emotional support.

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    LapCat
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well… my husband is very open about his feelings. Very emotional. Except, he yells and screams at the top of his lungs, talks in circles, for hours on end. He leans on me like I’m his therapist and personal nurse. I don’t feel like his wife anymore. I’m tired of walking on eggshells not knowing when that cycle will start again. I’ve encouraged him to seek therapy as he has a lot of childhood trauma, I’ve tried to be there to listen (without being able to get a word in edge-wise.) He’ll ask a question and when I start to answer it, he’ll fly into a rage again. He’s punched holes in the wall and has locked me out of the house before.

    The Short Lady
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men are often given the message that the only appropriate emotion for them is anger. I hope he can get some therapy, but please put your safety and that of your children, if any, first.

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    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like all humans, men feel the same range of emotions as women. Let’s normalise talking about them

    Kiki C
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do think men should share feelings (if they want to) but men also need to know how to express how they feel. “I’m upset with you” or “don’t talk to me I’m still mad” instead of punching a wall or screaming in my face. And it goes both ways. Don’t tell your gf she is dramatic for crying or she is b****y for saying that you were wrong.

    Blondie23
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why I let my husband be. If he wants to open up to me he knows he is 100% safe, if he wants to keep it in he knows I won't nag him about it. By doing this over the last 8 years he has become more comfortable sharing with me. It has taken a long time for him to break the habits society drilled into him. Ladies... be kind and patient with men, they need it! The good ones are worth it!

    Vinnie
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It pays off. My husband was getting really upset at technology and building things. He recently admitted that he felt bad about his temper. We talked things out, I told him he didn't have to be perfect and pointed to a free service that could help him manage his frustrations and anger. Well, he's become much calmer just like that. I'm sure he'll have lapses here and there, but I have mine, too - we all have things to manage.

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    vvv
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a statement but we don't know how the conversation really went... because there's a whole range of how to open up about one's feelings.

    RaVen Sequoia
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You may want to study NVC - Non-Violent Communication — it’s an amazing method of listening to people’s hidden and your own hidden needs…. Dr Marshall Rosenberg wrote a great book in how to do so.

    geezeronthehill
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Share your feelings. Wait! Not those feelings!

    Dre Mosley
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been here to the point of just keeping it to myself. Not worth having it tossed in your face later.

    Jennifer Ness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think we all need to be willing to question whether our approach and the people we seek relations with has something to do with the outcomes. Some people are just jerks... And some people unconsciously seek abuse. Some people pursue shallow or immature people and then are surprised to find them to be shallow or immature. If you're having problems relating to people I can't stress enough how helpful a counselor can be ... IF you want to consider whether you are part of the problem and you're willing to see things about yourself, you probably could change some of the dynamics leading to these frustrations.

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    #3

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Talking/interacting with a child and instantly getting seen as a [predator]. Once headed out with my 3 year old niece to a playground . . . half an hour later the police were involved. Needed my sister to clear things up.

    GMSryBut , Pauline Loroy Report

    Roger9er
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Simply because you are a man. No other reason.

    Excited Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Huh - imagine he was in a multiracial marriage, and he was black and the niece white. Likely need to produce actual official documents to prove relationship and stay out of jail.

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    Xenon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok, goddamn. Who ever called the cops, get a freaking grip.

    Ka Se
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this an US thing or worldwide? I do live in central europe and I see plenty men interacting with children at playgrounds.

    Weasel Wise
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Only in certain parts of the US...the same parts that see homosexuality as a sin and women's bodies as male property. 😒 Come visit the PNW and you'll see all sorts of men raising their children like men should. Men with baby wraps, men pushing strollers.... just the insecure men of our beloved red states see good fathers as weak. 🤬🤬

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    ॐBoyGanesh
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gay married couple with a son. Said it many times here. I carry his birth certificate in my wallet & a copy of my passport & his travel documents because I deal with this DAILY. We’ve been harassed so many times in so many places. We’ve even had cops show up at our home at dawn because of reports we abducted a child and the person reporting had our license plate. Dealt with it in stores, playgrounds, traveling, school, medical facilities, you name it. Two middle aged men with a 9yo son is automatically suspect nearly everywhere. Even the well-intentioned people use the “better safe than sorry” c**p. Meanwhile, a woman cusses her little 6yo daughter out in Target, smack her her bottom and telling her to behave or she’ll get a beating and customers mind their business. We’re on the other aisle being followed by store security & being met by sheriff because we had our son picking out clothes. Every day we are guilty until proven innocent. Suspect for not reason than unfounded fear.

    Bored Trash Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry you have to go through this. I can't even imagine the stress of it for you or your child. <3

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    Mabelbabel
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband was a single father of 3 under-5s, biological mother nowhere to be seen and he had full custody. He had repeated episodes of this-getting looked at suspiciously, other women talking to his very young children directly and asking them where their mummy was, and being repeatedly challenged by other parents for being at the school gates (waiting for the children to come out, not hanging around suspiciously). He was asked to prove he was their dad more than once. And if he wasn't being treated with suspicion, he was being patronised by comments like "Nice to see dad doing his turn at babysitting" "Nice to see you giving your wife an afternoon off" when he was taking the children swimming or whatever. All that stopped whenever I started going out with him-like the presence of a woman automatically ruled out anything untoward going on.

    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, sad that all men are seen as predators. I remember being out with my boyfriend and seeing a woman sat in a car. We weren’t sure if she was asleep or unwell. My boyfriend insisted I was the one who checked on her as he thought he would scare her.

    María Hermida
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He is a sensible person. He would have probably scared her.

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    Linouchka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    French here : my husband gets weird looks when he's out and about with his OWN SON. If I'm there, he won't take him to a restroom. Heck, he won't even give him a suppository if he's sick, and after the usual "because it's always you, you do it better" excuse I finally squeezed out of him that he doesn't want our son (who is 4 years old) to tell anyone "Daddy put something in my butt"... 😱😱 I was caught totally off guard as I had never even thought of something like that, but I had to surrender, he was right : in the current madness of the world we live in, even the most loving and innocent man is seen as a predator until proven otherwise. It breaks my heart for all the good men. And it's bad for us women too. 😭

    Lilsomms
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband had to deal with so many looks when our daughter was going through a "don't touch me! Leave me alone!" phase, and would be in any public space with her. She looks just like me, and nothing like him so he would only go to places he knew the employees in case some overzealous Karen thought he was doing something inappropriate and called the police.

    Barbara Kayton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This simply is unacceptable. Women have been ingrained to think “man = bad/stupid” and “woman = cannot be questioned”. Women have also been trained to think shouting “rape” or “assault” is an acceptable way to respond to anything that happens to them, even if they walk into someone, or don’t pay attention and smack them in midriff with their shopping. It happens a LOT. Yes, we must believe people - but when my fellow women pull this kind of BS, it makes it hard to believe them.

    María Hermida
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't agree with "we must believe people". I think we must listen to people with respect, treat them well, give them a quiet atmosphere to speak about traumatic experiences... But believe them just because they say so? Sorry, but no. I don't care if you are a woman, a man or Pope Francis, if you have no proof of what you are saying, well, tough luck. It's up to a point unfair, and it doesn't mean you are lying, but if we are going to send somebody to jail we must be sure we are not making a mistake.

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    #4

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Older single guy here. We're on our own. Nobody wants to touch us. No platonic affection. Nobody wants to help us. We need to figure it out for ourselves. Nobody will be there for you. You have to accept that. Crippling loneliness is a given. I know I will die alone. I just want to know, why the hell is it taking so long?

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    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so, so sorry you're experiencing this 😥 I am a 35 year old lesbian who is disabled and women immediately ghost me as soon as they find out I am disabled. I've been single for over a decade, and my frustration has had me recently thinking of how much harder it must be for men who are in a similar boat of not meeting the shallow ideals so many women have. This might seem like a weird suggestion, but I've found groups that do platonic cuddle meets - strict boundaries, absolutely nothing sexual - and it helps with that need for closeness, if nothing else. You deserve healthy connection as much as anyone 💜

    Rens
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can relate too; I am 51, disabled and I also got ghosted and treat it like c**p on dating sites. I met a lovely man who lived in my building and we were together for almost three years until he passed away in January; he was also disabled and women were just as s****y towards him.

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    Weasel Wise
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, so real. 😞. My buddy, Grant, isn't even that old, only 45, but chronically single (and understandably due to his severe alcoholism). He mentioned having a really rough day mental health-wise and his shift was making it worse. I asked if he needed a hug and he eagerly accepted. I don't think I've received such a long hug in my entire life and I could feel him holding on and not wanting to let go as his breathing changed to hold back his tears. We stood in the way of all our coworkers during a busy dinner shift just hugging and I was so appreciative that nobody said a peep. They could all see him hurting and see how much he needed human contact. 😞😞

    Michael Fernandez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On the one hand, I understand, as I recently had major surgery and had to face the fact that the hospital wouldn’t release me without a friend or family, but on the other hand, I called an old friend (a few weeks beforehand), and he drove two days down to take me to & from the hospital, and stayed a few extra days to ensure that I could function with a walker. People can surprise you (in a good way).

    Jennifer Ness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If platonic friendships are what all these guys need couldn't they make friends with other men? I see a ton of them hanging out having coffee at the fitness/rehab center I go to. This sounds like depression and I hope those dealing with it can get some help. Counselors don't just talk about feelings... they help you find solutions to get on a different track.

    Edison Lima
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Making friends after a certain age is SUPER difficult if you don't have family! Most adults only make friends at work (and if you are retirei, that option is out), with other parents at their kids school, wirh friends of their relatives, friends of friends etc. Most people don't react all that nicely to a strange lone older man approaching them and trying to make small talk.

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    Wendy Forrest
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A senior dog or cat who needs your love and protection will complete you more than many humans.

    Doctor Strange
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm there. Over thirty and unmarried? You are automatically damaged goods. I just turned 40. I spend every day alone. And its not for a lack of trying. I keep putting myself out there. But I'm just never good enough.

    Admiralu
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are good enough. Please stop caring what others think and make yourself happy. Do what you enjoy. I'll bet you meet that special person when you do.

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    Andy Cran
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    in the UK we have a "men's shed" organisation where men can get together to combat loneliness....it's just involves chit chatting,fixing things (because us fellas like to be practical like that) etc....I don't know if similar things are available in other countries but it's worth checking out their website or atleast Google it

    LovingKnuckle
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a 45 yr old divorced man in a fairly new town where I don’t know many people. The people I do know have spouses and kids. My best friends all live in other places. Normally go out alone, which doesn’t bother me too much because I am very outgoing, but makes it very hard to meet women. Most look at me like I am that creep at a bar. It sucks making new friends or by some miracle a new partner. The struggle is real.

    Mia Black
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this is to blame on the patriarchy and machismo etc. In many Western cultures at least men tend to not touch other people than their family. It should be normalised that men, women, diverse are humans who need affection, also physical affection. Mostly men need to establish a healthy openness to feelings (physical and emotional). They need to begin to practice this from early on like many women do. Than it may stay part of their lifes like women do this. When you and your friends hug through your younger years, you may still do this as older persons which is healthy. I say this as a woman who has to learn and establish this too if I want physical and or emotional affection. I n still a little too shy but I practise (edit: autocorrect)

    Ka Se
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's depression you are talking about. Please get help. 🙏

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    #5

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Not being believed when it comes to sexual harassment I was sexually harassed by a girl in my class a really long time ago and when I told it to the school they didn’t do anything Both of my parents got involved and they still refused to do anything to the girl who was harassing me

    TeaBags0614 , Ali Jouyandeh Report

    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am SO sorry. This is not fair 😭 thank you for sharing, I am sure many men will relate!

    Ai
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm very sorry for every man that ever experienced that. Man can definitely be survivors of SA. But saying that women don't understand what it's like to no be believed is not right. Women are told all the time "boys are just playing with you, don't be so sensitive", "he touched you a little bit, what is the harm?", "I'm sure that you secretly wanted it". So it's very universal "stupid people and opressors don't belive victims". Thank the author for sharing his story and it's good that at least his parents were on his side.

    Tracy Wallick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Believe me, we DO understand; every woman and girl has a story like yours. We do, however, still have a long way to go to taking boys/men reporting harassment and assault. You deserved better than this.

    Kiki C
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men should be listened to as well. But I am tired of hearing the “they always listen to women” thing. They don’t.

    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sexual harassment is never okay, regardless of where it comes from or who it’s directed at.

    Yvonne Dauwalder Balsiger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sexual harassment (or worse) victims are rarely believed unfortunately.

    Kat
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is this about things women don’t understand?

    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Happened to me in school. Nothing was done. Boys are supposed to like having their d**k's grabbed. Granted my situation could have been worse but I reported it and no one cared. This was 30+ years ago so I've dealt with it but this hits close to home.

    Arturo De la Rosa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i get it. it has happened to me, but honestly it wasn't a big deal. men are safe to some degree because you can always win the physical confrontation if need be. I think on this regard women are right to be more defensive.

    PTJD
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What, are you going to punch a woman if she is getting too aggressive?

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    JK
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son was being bombarded with hate from a girl and her friends after he broke up with her - because she kept physically and mentally attacking him, both when they were on their own and when they were around her friends. She'd even laugh and belittle him afterwards. Took us a while to get him to tell us what was going on. Couldn't even get the school involved because she went to a different school than he did and the schools couldn't/wouldn't talk to each other. I had to answer one of his many many prank calls with the words "1 more call and I'll be contacting the police to press charges" before it started settling down. They were both 14 at the time. He's terrified of anyone knowing about it because he thinks it makes him look bad, no matter how much we let him know different.

    DarkViolet
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just keep being his advocate, since it's obvious that the schools are inadequate in enforcing boundaries. I'll bet that if the genders were reversed, you would be expending a lot of time and money defending your son against a false charge of rápe/attempted rápe.

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    #6

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man The level of depresion men face while basically having no support system and forever being told to just be tough and push on..

    Afraid_Purpose_8512 , Luke Jones Report

    JK
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On the flip side, i have begged my husband to look in to therapy to help him deal with his traumas, but he won't go because he's been convinced to think it's "unmanly" or "weak" or "waste of time". I asked him if I was weak or wasting my time by seeking therapy myself, he basically told me that it was fine for *me* to go, just "wasnt for him". Men - therapy is NOT bad/weak/girly. Good mental health is incredibly important, please do not feel like it's not for you just because you're a man.

    Paul Brown
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seeking therapy saved my life and my marriage. Men do not be embarrassed to seek out help, its the best thing I have ever done.

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    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, it’s no wonder the leading cause of death in men under 50 in the UK is suicide. Let’s normalise asking for help as being a strength and not a weakness.

    lenka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep :( Toxic masculinity hurts men as much as it hurts women.

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    yup its men's fault..... or it could be the phycology fields are female biased and not suited for male phycological issues. or that men that do show vulnerability in relationships are thrown away by toxic females.

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    Bols
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This whole thread makes me so angry, why are we still forcing some BS gender "norms" on ourselves instead of just focusing on being good and happy humans regardless of our genitals, come on world

    vvv
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know enough men who should seek advise but they won't ...because that's not what a guy does...whose fault is it then ? Because in this case we come up as the pain the neck for telling

    Paul Pienkowski
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously. Because I'm a huge man and usually pretty tough, no one believed I was depressed. My dad actually laughed when I said I was going to therapy.

    -
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm glad you didn't listen to him! One's physique doesn't determine mental health. Hope you're doing well.

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    der sebbl
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kind of being there right now. Told myself I have to be tough at least for the last decade. I'm not burned-out yet, but I'm close. I really hope I still can turn around

    Tamra
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You deserve to take care of yourself. You deserve help and support when you need it. It is not weak to ask for help - quite the opposite, in fact. It takes a great deal of courage to say: I've had enough and I can't do this by myself anymore. Don't wait until you burn out. There are no awards or medals for suffering. Life is too short.

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    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You do not deserve that! You deserve support, you deserve to be heard, you deserve to have your feelings respected - so ditch anyone who says otherwise and go find people who will welcome your emotions 💖

    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's just plain cruel. I'm noticing there is a mentality among females ( and men, too, in some cases) that they just won't deal with someone's problems, not even to be there for support, because "not my problem" or "I don't want to be trauma-dumped". That is a terrible saying, actually, "trauma-dumping". Relating feelings, a trauma, difficult times is not unloading it all on someone's back so they have to experience and deal with it, like you're a dump truck and they're a bin. That's just a weird analogy. Providing support could be checking in on someone to make sure they're okay and asking if they need anything, or just letting them talk. It could even be as simple as contacting them to talk about something to get their minds off whatever they're going through. It can also be giving them a reality check how serious the situation is and helping them find proper solutions when they're feeling too overwhelmed to know what to do. It's treating others the way you want to be treated.

    J
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women are in touch with their OWN feelings and no one else.

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    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    women (maybe intuitively) seek out support groups...really just groups and the support will come...please consider volunteering, joining a hobby, sports, church, VFW....please also consider getting a pet...the pet will love you and, if it is a dog, get you out into nature and amongst people...every day...if you feel comfortable with it, also consider seeing a thereapist or medication if the level of depression is very uncomfortable....good luck

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    This fear leads to a large number of myths and alternative “remedies” for hair loss that, for the most part, have little to no bearing on reality. Because testosterone levels play some part in how hair works, some have speculated that weight training might lead to male-pattern baldness, despite the fact that most cases are just hereditary. While there does seem to be a connection between excess testosterone and hair loss, many balding men also report low testosterone levels. 

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    #7

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man my brother got physically abused by his ex and somehow a ton of people still assume he did something to deserve it?... Imagine if the reverse happened! Like a woman talks about how her ex boyfriend punched her because he is an abusive piece of s**t and i would go "yea but what did you do to deserve such a reaction?". if i did that everyone would agree that i am the a*****e but for some reason multiple people have said this to my brother and no one bats an eye.

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    lenka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually.... women get blamed all the time for being victims. You were raped, what were you wearing? You were assulted, How much did you drink? Your husband beat you, you must have provoked him. You were in a domestic violence relationship? You should have left. Women are always blamed. Not that it makes what happened to your brother ok... it's not. But women are absolutely blamed for being the victim all the time.

    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually. No one said otherwise. This thread(As per the title) is "Men share struggles..." So this is about what men are dealing with. It is not meant to minimize the problems women deal with. Men are usually ignored in these situations when women can definitely be the aggressor. It is well known that men can be aggressors.

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    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an ex who drew bruises on her arms and went out to a party to disparage me and try and get me beaten up. This was in Florida in the summer. Thankfully the 'bruises' started to run from her sweat. Same night I packed whatever I could fit in my backpack and used my last money to get a plane ticket at 3am to crawl back to my parents house and start over. Biggest heartache and best decision ever.

    Cosmologist wannabe
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    (unrelated to post: Hey rostit, I accidentally mixed you up for a troll in another post, and I came to apologize. Sorry for that.) Back to ur comment. Just wow. I cant say anything about this. You made the right choice.

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    vvv
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just a reminder that a lot of women are victim bashed and held reposible for either "asking" for it or staying with him and when they leave him, they risk their lives ....Statistcally this happens to a vast majority of women. Surely it happens to men but please don't say : "Imagine if the reverse happened..." because it actually happens a lot. Women being denied to file complaint because it's their partner or not taken seriously by Police. So please don't say that because what you are describing is excatly what happens. Oh but she pushed him so far he punched her , she looked for it, she's a pain, he couldn't take it anymore ! blah blah blah

    Jennifer Germain
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is terrible but I must add it took a long time for society to get to the point of believing the women, I was shamed 20 years ago for breaking up my marriage and the "why didn't you just leave?" and "I would never put up with that". Made women not want to speak up. Men you need to start this ball rolling, this should never happen to any one. ever

    Tracy Wallick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happens to female victims as well; you're not alone, we understand and we can empathize. I'm so sorry for your brother, I hope he was able to escape from her and get the support he deserves.

    ravn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It doesn't help that even an otherwise kind and gentle soul is still allowed to "dope slap" her male partner. I get the damndest looks when I point out that it's legitimizing the use of violence...and god help me if I reciprocate.

    MoMcB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a friend who was in an abusive relationship, is out of it 3 years and she still is going after him.

    Donna Drizin
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Um I think many women have been through the same

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    #8

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Expected to be the protector at all times. I mean I’ll do my best but damn, can we call the cops first.

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    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely! I want a partner who is still in one piece please!

    Lucy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want a smart partner that knows how to handle a situation without violence. Someone breaks in your home though you probably need to defend yourselves 10-20 mins before cops show up. I feel this is a team effort.

    HolyDiver
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've known women that run their mouth thinking that their man will finish it. Nope... You wanna pick a fight, you get to settle it. I am not some attack dog on a leash.

    Blondie23
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes! This one!! Look my hubby is a big guy and VERY good at protecting us. HOWEVER... I don't want him in danger. No way... if it's a bug or an animal heck yeah I am cool with him dealing with it.... if it's some crazy person, hell no. You get in this closet with me and kids and we call the cops!!!

    Tamra
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do not expect my husband to be my protector. We protect each other, we are partners. If we have an intruder, we will tag team that s**t! Right after calling 911.

    Justin Thyme
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I'm armed and have called the police" helped a few times. Couple times it didn't, which is why I don't bluff.

    Kel_how
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly! I don't want a hero, I want a good decision maker!

    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Don't be a hero" applies to everyone, including men. No man is invincible. In fact, it's a good idea to practice home intrusion survival tactics with your household, along with fire safety and evacuation.

    Salman Chowdhury
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    im not gon lie the one thing i have motivation to prepare for something like this is practicing sprints and running so i can get the hell outta there lmao

    Jaybird3939
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd never expect a guy to protect me. Either I'll do it myself or we'll hold hands and run like H*LL

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    #9

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Trying to ask out women with little to no signals to go on. Having to approach and initiate every romantic interaction without coming on too strong and not seem like a creep.

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    Roger9er
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot is also screwed up by other men, who just push themselves upon women or girls and/or act like a creep and they don't care.

    Yettichild
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it's also partially due to the fact that if a woman is forward, she gets called a sl*t and a wh*ore, so we are hesitant to initiate. It's changing thankfully, but slowly

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    Donkey boi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not a 'struggle'. Just be a human being and treat them like one, be honest, polite, and accept their answer regardless. Don't act like a d**k, don't push, don't try and be something you're not. The rest is easy.

    Arturo De la Rosa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it's a tiresome balancing act that has only gotten worst with time. Mistakes and misunderstandings are now paid for severely.

    LapCat
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Best way for a man to “pick up” on me is to make me laugh.

    Jon Steensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe you shouldn't start with asking her out. Perhaps just probing a bit around and trying to build a relationship first is a better way to go. It takes less courage, and will put less stress on her, as she won't have to commit on nothing too. THEN, if you get some positive signals, and feel a bit of chemistry can you consider asking her out. Just going, "you look nice, wanna date me?" seems a bit to abrupt and may very well be considered intrusive. Start with a single compliment and see how things develop from there. If that is in general well recieved, you can begin to flirt a little while leaving her plenty of space to back out is she want to do that. If you wait to pop the date question until you have gathered just a bit more "data" about her interest in you, chances that you'll get a good outcome increase quite a bit, and you'll run less of a risk of getting rejected.

    vvv
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of my buddies told me how they approached women...I really had to tell them how creepy they were... maybe ask a female friend to advise you ... if you have

    Kiki C
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a woman, I have been asked out maybe twice without me initiating it. Twice. Men nowadays just expect us to throw ourselves into their laps.

    Pedro Muchanga
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Blame it on the women that only are polite to good looking/wealthy men, and label the less attractive/poorer men creeps and in many cases accuse them of harassing them. As someone who have been on the receiving end of it, I gave up trying to initiate anything with women for my own safety.

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    Lesley Christie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is an example of how some men treat women affecting women and men. Because of my experiences I'm on edge whenever a man tries to talk to me. I know it's wrong, but I can't help it. It's a trauma response.

    Miss Frankfurter
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was young, I would never send out signals. When you’ve had enough creeps simply approach you ALL THE TIME and no signals were sent out, then you don’t send out signals to someone you like. There’s too much of a chance they’ll “take it the wrong way”, if you know what I mean. Just another guy who did turn out to be a creep. Ya. It sounds screwed up. Ya. I’m on my own. Ya, I always will be.

    Paul Pienkowski
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My girlfriend and I are both autistic. It took a month to ask her out. We both kept confusing our words and intentions. We've been together for ten years now. She doesn't want to marry, but I'm okay with that.

    Kiki C
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m probably gonna get hate for this but beware people who intend to never marry but be in a relationship

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    Some studies indicate that women have a stronger sense of smell than men, which is both a blessing and a curse, as many a young man learns a bit too late that if he can smell himself, everyone around him can as well. While there was no doubt a time when ancient humans needed every sense to be as sharp as possible, these days most aggressive aromas, from hot garbage to people who apply perfume with a hose, are more annoying than anything. 

    #10

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Being accused of kidnapping my kids while taking them to the playground. That was fun. Women going out of their way to avoid me when walking on a street (crossing the street). I get it, but wow does it hurt. Feeling crushing anxiety and not being able to show it to basically anyone. My wife interprets it as me being unstable/unable to be the provider, even my therapist assumed I was just not wanting to face my demons and that I need to get over it. Gotta keep it in. Being really sick and told it’s manflu. Having me sense of self worth basically pinned to my ability to earn money Very specific, but illustrates the point: I once was at a conference and I saw two ladies walking ahead of me. One was carrying a purse by its handle and it was hanging down. The purse was unzipped and stuff was starting to fall out as she was walking. I ran up and interrupted and pointed out the purse was open and stuff was about to fall out. They both looked at me and asked why I would be looking at her purse and called me a creep and walked away.

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    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry you've experienced these things. As a woman who has had a lot of uncomfortable encounters with men, it can be easy to become paranoid but I am trying so hard to give every man the benefit of the doubt or just politely excuse myself from an interaction rather than be cold & make assumptions. You do not deserve to be called a creep for being a gentleman, or arrested for being an involved father, ugh!! Kidnappers & thieves are quite often women, not just men. I hope you can keep going to therapy - with a better therapist - because men bravely embracing their emotions is the only way things will change 💜

    Chris D'Asta
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Crystal, thank you for your sincere comments on these posts.

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    Daniel Gómez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately we men have created so many uncomfortable situations for women that I'm perfectly fine with them avoiding me on the street, since in their mind I'm a potential danger, and I don't blame them for that. Not all men of course, but enough have messed it up so badly that even if we consider ourselves "good guys" women have reasons to fear us, more than we can even imagine.

    Tracy Wallick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women don't like this either! It SUCKS having to treat every man as a potential threat, because there's really no surefire way to tell whether or not the man in our vicinity is going to be one of those that we've been primed to fear since we were little girls. Unfortunately, the solution seems to be that men have to police men, cuz if creeps gave a $hit about women's opinions, this wouldn't still be a problem.

    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then don't treat all men that way. Trust your instincts, read the room, get a sense of the energy you're picking up. Most dudes you're surrounded by are not even noticing you. If I were to be afraid of the men around me, I wouldn't be able to go to work. The bus I take has mostly men in it. The most annoyance it has caused is one guy opens the window next to him no matter the weather, and knows I hate it. So he gives me a smirk.

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    Violetta Cogoni
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a reason why we - as women - avoid men when walking in the street. Maybe for you is “hard”, for us it can be determining for our safety

    Daniel Gómez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get your point entirely. I live only with women and those concers are very real. We men have made the world suck for you.

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    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op if you see this comment you need a new therapist. That's some bunk advice.

    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah the assumption that we are predating and perving rather than just helping is utter bs. Just because we're talking to you does NOT mean we are hot for you.

    Tracy Wallick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My safety is more important to me than your feelings. Die mad about it.

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    JalaPeno
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Woman here: I am SO SICK of women treating men like dirt because they're trying to be kind!!!! And then they go and complain that there aren't any good men around. Well, guess what, sweetheart? YOU DID THAT. YOU pushed them down so hard and made them feel like they can't do anything right, so now they're not going to even try with you.

    lenka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men have a reputation of being babies when they are sick. There are a few reasons for this. One is that women, generally speaking, have a higher pain threshold so they tend to push through it. I think it also comes from traditional roles - when men are sick they take a day off work and they rest, because they can. They often have a wife to look after them when they do. When mothers are sick, they still have to look after kids, keep them alive, feed, dress, drive them, prepare meals etc. They don't get to rest, and even if they do, the man still goes to work so no-one looks after them. It has created some resentment among women who blame men and have labelled a sickness in which men are entitled to rest and be taken care of 'manflu'. Personally, when I was sick and the kids were young, I expected my husband to take the day off and care for me and the children.... but I live in a country with sick leave and carers leave so I recognise that its quite privileged.

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    C.S. E.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dude, you need a new therapist. They should not be telling you that

    jmdirks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would not call myself hyper observant but I do see things. My wife calls me nosy. What am I supposed to do, not see things???????

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    #11

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Middle age loneliness, particularly for married guys with kids. If you're not a middle age bro douche, you probably have no friends. None. Maybe you're amiable with work colleagues, maybe you have a game night with some neighbors, but they're barely more than acquaintances. Your last friend was 10, maybe 20 years ago in the before times. Seems like It's almost a societal expectation at this point.

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    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, our society does not embrace healthy connection and I hate that. I struggle to make friends as a woman so I can imagine it's so much worse for men. Thank you for sharing this💜

    Daniel Gómez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is my case, not because of lack of friends per se but because I'm an expat and all my good friends, including my bestie, live back in my country, or halfway around the world. And it's difficult to make friends where I live because I'm going through certain personal processes that have reassured me of the fact that I do not want to deal with toxic masculinity, "alpha" male BS, and the sort. I couldn't stand it when I was not aware of my relative toxicity as a man some years ago, can't even stand it now that I've gained a lot more awareness. I'm grateful, however, to the women of my life (wife and stepdaughter) for all they have taught me, maybe I don't have friends here but I'm definitely a better human being because of them, couldn't ask for a better family.

    maka paka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My god this hit close to home and i never even thought of it like this

    Marnie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, many women could write the same thing. There are extremely sad struggles being shared in this post (and I think it's really important), but how does this particular one relate only to men?!

    dean tirmizi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm 33 and this is 100% me right now, I see one "friend" prob once a month, and he's just an old work colleague really, but I wouldn't say that I'm lonely, or maybe iv just conditioned myself to enjoy my own company. and in my 20's I wouldn't go to the corner shop with out having my friends with me

    Matthew Thompson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Validation is a small comfort, but it is a comfort.

    Richard Michael
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Middle age bro douche". That sentence is why you have no male friends. You are just bitter and name-calling someone who has something you don't, but want.

    Max Fox
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, people, volunteer. There is always need for volunteers, and you get to be friends with all sorts of people. You can also learn to dance socially - a lot of men and women in the 40-70 year range dance salsa and especially tango.

    April Pickett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know it's not easy, but if you want friends, find a way. Churches, social clubs, library groups, and therapy groups supported by your city/town. Look for clubs that have the same interests that you do, bring your wife, ask her for suggestions, and talk to her and your kids. PTA, baseball, football, basketball volunteers, you name it it's out there. You just have tolook.

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    #12

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man  I have a terrible issue with crying, even when I'm at my worst and feel a constant urge to cry for weeks straight, I won't and can't. Sometimes I think I can't cry without permission. I am well aware that I don't need permission, but my body doesn't care.

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    Owen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a 35yr old man, and I cannot cry in front of other people. Even at my Nan's funeral, Mum said I looked emotionless. But when I got home by myself I cried a bucket load. No one saw, so it was ok. This is what society puts on us.

    Natalie H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m a woman, but I feel this. I can’t cry in front of others either.

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    Wintermute
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Last year I cried at the funeral of a friend's son, who committed suicide. Before that it was in 1997. It was hard to get the tears out. Literally had to force myself to cry. After spending 20+ years never shedding a tear so I wouldn't look like a wimp, I had to force them so I wouldn't look cold-hearted. Wasn't until some time later that I realized both of those responses were catered to the feelings of the people around me, and at no point did it enter into my head what I needed or wanted. That was a growing moment for me. It's good to be the strong, protector type, but self-care has to be a priority too. And sometime that means bawling like a baby.

    Tamra
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm glad you had that awakening moment. They're called feelings for a reason - we're meant to feel them. And express them too.

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    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have my permission to cry, You have my permission to let it all out. I know you don't need or probably want it, but it's there in case you could use it.

    Charlie the Cat
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am going to my Dads funeral in September. I have been asked to get up & say a few words. Going to try my best not to cry whilst doing it, but I know it's going to be hard.

    -
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's okay if you cry. I went to a funeral where the middle-aged son cried for a minute, then made a lovely speech about his mother. He comes from a culture and a family where it's accepted. Maybe you can say "This is really hard, I miss him so much" - I think people will understand.

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    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope you reach a point where you can let it out without permission but for now, if it would help, this woman gives you full permission 💜 you are brave for sharing this - western culture puts ridiculous, unhealthy, unachievable standards on men 😖

    Mohsie Supposie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same. Sometimes, I just want to cry, but can't.

    Richard Michael
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You need to see a mental health specialist. Sounds like long term depression.

    April Pickett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not your body but your mind, and the way you have been taught to perceive that crying is unmanly. Give yourself the right to cry when you need to, even in public.

    C.S. E.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is something that has bothered me for most of my life. I have never understood why we don't teach boy like we teach girls that you can cry. I don't know a single man who knows of, understands, and applies the self therapy of a really good, cleansing cry session. Sometimes, when I feel it coming up on me, I'll put on a movie that will trigger a session (like Steel Magnolias) and just almost wail. Sometimes, when I get stressed at work, I'll excuse myself to the restroom, have a hard core 3 minute cry, splash my face with water, and suddenly I can continue with my day. My main coworker, however, is the most tense guy I've ever met and I kind of wish, when he gets that way, he'd do the same. I try to be sensitive to his stress and, when he's really ready to go off, I'll straight tell him to go take a walk. I always hope he does the temper cry in the bathroom to help himself get settled, but I think he just walks around, and that's ok if that's what he needs.

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a good strategy and very kind of you.

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    #13

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Being expected to be able to step up in scary situations when you are scared sh**less yourself and don't want to either.

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    Xenon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whoever is best equiped to handle it should be the one to step up.

    Daniela Lavanza
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Indeed. And sometimes, no one should because no one in a group/couple can really handle that easily. You have to find another way to make it, instead of "the man should show his muscles".

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    mulk
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My beautiful wife: "Honey! there is a big spider in the kitchen!" Me: "I know, that's why I am running!"

    Scotira
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    🤣🤣 sorry I had to laugh. Spider in the kitchen: my husband gets the vacuum, I get a glass and a paper. He says: nothing with more than 4 legs is allowed in the house that doesn't pay rent. 😅

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    Chex mylicks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    dudes also get scared too its not just girls!

    Lucy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Teamwork makes the dream work.

    Sabrena Patterson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have no problem stepping up to any problem. Noise outside? Ill check. Wood needs splitting? Got it. Bully at my house? I may be small but I'll climb a ladder.

    Jill Bussey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which is why I am the go-to person (F) to deal with spiders.

    Justin Thyme
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You step up despite the fear. Anybody who has been in combat can tell you that.

    Tobias Reaper
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    its like if you breakdown at night and call recovery service they prioritise women first fair enough but as a man am i expected to fend off attackers until help arrives

    -
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Holy c**p, how did you survive? I'm really sorry you got attacked.

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    Andy C
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember before I could drive waiting on a bus with my gf at the time and 3 guys started banging the bus stop windows shouting for me to fight them and she said are u gonna take that? I said yeah there's 3 of them and what happens to you if I go out there?

    Ann Jeppesen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I'm being asked out for dinner, I will expect them to pay. If I invite, I'll pay and if we decide together we split. But I totally understand the confusion as many girls/women always expect the man to pay. It shouldn't be like that.

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    #14

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man You can shake it, you can thump it, you can beat it on the wall, but until you zip the zipper, the last drop will never fall.

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    Michael P (Perthaussieguy)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why I pee in a cubicle and use toilet paper to soak up that 'last drop'

    DJR
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also a great way to air out the undercarriage and stay fresh longer.

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    Not Bored
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No matter how you shake and you dance. The last drop always falls in your pants

    Karl
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad’s one (needs N.Irish accent) was “Nae matter how much ye shake yer peg, the last wee drop goes down yer leg!”

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    Ai
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honest question - why don't you use toilet paper? Shaking sounds rather unefective. I never understood that.

    G.O.A.L.
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do when I can, but there are no toilet paper rolls next to the urinals

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    Joshua David
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a man, I sit n pee at home all the time. But I understand this struggle when out in public.

    Will Cable
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Probably explains the gunk in the bottom of a Dyson hand drier

    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same problem in the women's washroom. Hand dryers are just nasty. Not everyone washes their hands thoroughly, and not everyone rinses the soap off enough.

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    Xenon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How does that rhyme go? No matter how much you shake and dance, the last drop goes in your pants.

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay, this one I do wish more men would consider. Please. And you guys donate your worn, unwashed pants and underwear to thrift stores, too.

    C.S. E.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, we do experience this, too! Bless panty liners! But I feel for the guys - y'all have to deal with not only that last drop into a dark, warm place (underwear), but you have balls adding to all that dampness, too. I honestly don't know how you prevent heat rash!

    Edison Lima
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my entire life, I've only ever saw ONE public bathroom with toilet paper available next to the urinal.

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    #15

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Just how f*****g lonely it is. You are expected at all times to be a simultaneous combination of guardian, emotional caregiver, leader, and provider, on TOP of being relatively successful and 100% independent. And you have to ALWAYS be these things, 100% of the time. It's emotionally exhausting. I know that readers may see this and list any number of the various advantages our unfair society affords men, and I won't argue that they aren't there. But I will state that I feel, and probably many other men would agree with this, that society doesn't really care about the emotional, mental, or social health of men. Chris Rock famously said that only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally; men are loved under the condition of what they can provide. I agree with that statement. It's incredibly dehumanizing and dispiriting to constantly be told what society expects from you and wants you to be, as if all you are is a paycheck to support a family or a fearless leader who exudes strength and never falters.

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    Owen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. 100% this. We must always demonstrate value. We must impress, or we are worthless.

    Baali Venomax
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As the surviving child(my brother was stillborn) I was constantly reminded how worthless I was because I WASNT a boy and basically had no value if I didnt marry and have kids. Having lived with that shadow over my head my entire life, I can actually understand how it feels to know your family doesnt value your existence unless you can fill a SPECIFIC role in it. If you cannot, for whatever reason, you are seen as a drain on their resources. My Dad wanted a boy and constantly reminded me how much more value he would have been, hier to the company, get a good job, make the family look good etc. Me? Waste of time and effort. Would have been better if I had been the one that died. This allows me to see what it feels like for guys to feel like they have no value, because they cannot fill the role that society expects them to. No one should have go through life believing they are worthless because their family cannot control what path they end up taking.

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    v
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreeing with someone means you're looking at them as a role model?

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    Donkey boi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I met my wife, the only thing I could offer her was loyalty and trust. Nothing else. I've built everything I/we have with her help and support. I have never had to prove anything to her, I have never felt like I needed to. Only the wrong kind of woman has those conditions.

    Roester
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Completely agree, my wife and I love each other unconditionally, not even a question.

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    Natalie H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not all women feel this way. Maybe just the greedy shallow gold diggers..I care more about the relationship than the paycheck.

    Rain Anderson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to be offensive or anything, women definitely aren't loved unconditionally. They will get love as long as they can provide something. It's kinda how the world works.

    François Carré
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Feminist authors actually write a lot about this. Patriarchy is not only bad for women, it also locks up men in stereotypes and wrong expectations. That's why everyone should support feminism, regardless of gender.

    Crescent 3
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel this on many levels, but on the positive side; you do get the "Big piece of chicken."

    April Pickett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, men are loved by what we see in them, you have a woman who looks at what you can provide her, and you have a "golddigger". Yeah, you're treated by the male society as the be-all and end-all of everything. You are the provider, never mind that your other provides too. it doesn't matter if you are forced into this assumption, it is what it is until you change it. You have a person that loves you and is worried about you - talk to them. Communication is key and is what is expected and deserved. Make it a habit, don't do that silent, male-in-charge c**p. Be human and talk!

    Donna Drizin
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Chris Rock is an a*****e. I don't know any women loved unconditionally

    anne sane
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can say the only unconditional love I ever got was from my dog. Even when was a child...and even as a woman. Just know, some of us out there do care about the struggles. Its just so hard to tell who will let us....and who is just looking to take advantage (speaking from way too much bad experience) The struggle is real. I hope you and all the others out there like you, find your person....or she finds you..I have found the older i get the more am ok with my "person" being of the 4 legged variety. Will take the tippy tappy of my pup at the door after a long day over just about anything.. Its the most reliable and pure thing have ever had in my entire life.

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    #16

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Trying to figure out if I should pay: I should pay on the date to be polite but I also should also have us split because we're equal but there's a gender pay gap so I should pay because I'm a man but gender roles are meant to be cast aside? I...I....I AHHH

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    Sandra Morison
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Easy solution .....ask beforehand

    Mohsie Supposie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How do you do that without sounding cheap and petty?

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    Xenon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel bad for men regarding dating. It's got to be a freaking mine field out there.

    Kiki C
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    2 years ago

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    Are you serious? Are you joking

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    lenka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think if you invited them then you pay the bill. If it was a mutual thing then split. If its a first date, particularly from dating app where you don't know them, then ask them respectfully. i.e. "I'd really like to take the bill if that's ok, or would you prefer to split?"

    Con O Cuinn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I must be lucky because I've never had this issue. Always went off the inviter pays for the invitee, and if it's mutual then it's split. If I invite you to a concert, I'll cover the tickets. But if we both agree to meet for drinks, you better get your round in. But maybe that's an Irish thing, my ma and all my aunts always said they paid their rounds and that was the 70s.

    Brendan (banned for downvotes)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife is from Ireland, and something I've noticed about the Irish is that they will always offer to pay, but the other person will always decline. My wife tried to pay a friend for petrol after he gave us a lift, but he politely declined. After a bit of to-and-fro, she finally left it. Then, as he drove off, she screwed up her €20 note and threw it through his opened car window! I've never seen anything like it.

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    Kristal
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I expect a split. Two adults going out on the first few dates should always split so no one is taken advantage of.

    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I go through this as a lesbian, too. After my last awkward date I decided that next time I am going to respectfully ask what the expectations/preferences are beforehand. 😵‍💫

    Baali Venomax
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always went Dutch with my ex. Neither of us had much money and despite my Grandma being disgusted at the idea that the guys didnt automatically pay for everything anymore, I told her: It also means I cannot be blackmailed into having sex either because they paid for my dinner. I have male friends, we take it in turns to pay for each other and it works out fine for all involved. Except on birthdays, then whomever is the birthday person eats free and has freebies all night while the others split the bill between them. This is regardless of gender.

    Kiki C
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It really isn’t that complicated. Man: I can pay for dinner Woman: oh no we can split I have money Man: oh ok

    Tobias Reaper
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    general rule is if you asked them out then you pay if they asked you they pay if you both suggested to go out split the bill

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    #17

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Being looked at as a pervert or weirdo for taking your kids to the park or store or anywhere. Any age too! Newborn all the way to teenager!

    gigglemonkee , Derek Owens Report

    Michael P (Perthaussieguy)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never had that issue with bringing up my two kids. Also now as a grandad taking my grand daugher out- no issues and not feeling like there ever would be here.

    Narelle Hussy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    4 what its worth mate when im out and about and see a man with his kids, pushing a pram or a newborn in a carrier on his chest it makes my heart happy and if i was your mama i'd burst with pride, dont ever stop being Superman 4 your kids.. cos society wont ever change

    DJR
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worry about my friend. He is very white, but his three children look nothing like him since his wife is black. He takes them to the pool/ park all the time.

    Kevin B
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a kid, take her to the park a lot. I feel like this is how these guys in particular don't feel like they belong there. I've found almost anywhere that if you feel comfortable and just act normal like you belong there, no one ever questions it. I think they may look like they feel out of place and other people are picking up on that.

    Deb Dedon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this says more about the culture than the man.

    Darren Paul Jones
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this an American thing? I was a childminder and regularly attended baby and toddler groups with groups of kids in tow, I never experienced this kind of negativity. The worse thing was older ladies telling me my wife must have me ‘well trained’

    sdizzle85
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's normal in the USA as well. There's more to this than the OP is letting on. I have four children, a granddaughter, two nieces & numerous "friends kids" & I've never been looked at sideways when in public.

    Lauren Caswell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What aren't they letting on? This happens everywhere. It's not just confined to one country.

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    Stymied Egan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where do you live? I have seen men out with kids all over Ohio. You see a man with his children and it's lovely. Many dads are much more engaged in playing than the moms are.

    Cydney Golden
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't imagine where you are. It's totally normal for dads to take kids out in every place in the northeast USA I've been.

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    #18

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Being shot down simply because you're a certain height

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    Kristal
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mmmm I really think women can relate to being shot down due to a physical feature, both figuratively and literally.

    Marijn Mestdag
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For once there's a post adressing the issues males are having and you choose to make it about women again? You're part of the problem in my opinion

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    Kristy Marion
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband is 4” shorter than me. I still wear heels. And he’s still the sexiest guy I’ve ever met

    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so ridiculous and all I can say is that if a woman rejects you based solely on height, you've dodged a bullet! I am only 5' and get nervous around tall people so I've always been confused about why all these women want a man over 6' 😅

    John L
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    2 years ago (edited)

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    Probably because emotion ("feelings"), doesn't rule your life. When someone asks you something, do you give a direct answer or preface with "I feel...."

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    BluEyedSeoulite
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Having a height requirement is a red flag imo. Preference, fine. Requirement, no.

    Kristal
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I appreciate the recognition of the difference of preference and requirement.

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    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband is 5’ 6”. If a woman rejects you because of your height she’s not worth you time anyway.

    Francis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i once had a date with a man who was only a bit taller than me (i'm 5'5 and he was around 5'7) and he made so many comments about how isn't tall and why i would date him and all that. i never made a comment about his heights. i don't give a flying sh*t how tall someone is, when they make me laugh and feel good. first and last date...

    Mabelbabel
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And I bet he decided you didn't date him purely because of his height. My husband is 3 inches shorter than me. It wasn't his height I fell in love with-it was his confidence and belief in himself. He's content to be who he is, he accepts himself, he loves to learn about the world around him, he's endlessly interested in other people-he's such a positive force in my world. And that's what I love, whether he's 5 foot 6 or 6 foot 6.

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    maka paka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a preference, same as the weight and height of a woman and the problem is that some of us men take it way too seriously. If someone doesn't want someone under 6ft that's up to them. (and i say that as a lil short at 5'8)

    Kristal
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you, it indeed, is a preference. I think preference is fine as long as the response to someone outside a preference isn't treated badly for it.

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    Wax0nWax0ff
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Specific height requirements for dating baffle me

    Richard Michael
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like you've never shot down a woman who was a certain weight.

    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On the upside, there will always be someone out there who doesn't care about height or is into shorter guys. What's getting people stuck is focusing on what some people have said they don't like about our unchangeable appearance, and then thinking everyone thinks the same way.

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    #19

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man it's not okay to be a stereotype who tells a woman to get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich, but it's acceptable if not downright encouraged for a woman to knock me for not being able to lift something heavy saying "you're a man, you're supposed to be able to do this!"

    kbyyru , cottonbro studio Report

    XanthippeⓐWulf🇨🇦️️🇬🇧
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kind of chuckled at this, but you're right & it's something I never realized. There are no gender stereotypes in this household, my partner knows that if there's a creepy noise in the house, he can wake me up and I'll grab my baseball bat & be like "I got this baby!" but also he does all the laundry & bakes like an angel...so yeah, laundry & cake, manly af!

    Baali Venomax
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Work out what works for you. Obviously if you are physically stronger than your partner, then the bulk of the heavy lifting is gonna be yours because she might end up injuring herself otherwise but then there are probably things she finds easier so, it works out if done right.

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    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife is taller than me. So she needs to get the things on the top shelves for me. I can open the pickle jars.

    Auntriarch
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband deals with the pickle jars as I have arthritis. But I deal with the spiders.

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    Wintermute
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've known many very independent, progressive women who would be the first to say that in this post-feminist world there's no such thing as women's work anymore. Cleaning, cooking, child-raising. Men can and should do that to. And they're absolutely right. Of course, not one of those women (that I know personally) change their own oil, fix a light socket or mow the lawn. And yes yes, I know there are women out there who do that, but my point is, according to most progressive people you'll find that there's no such thing as women's work, but there sure as hell is such thing as men's work. I find that it's not about what works best for the ideology, but what works best for the person pretending to hold it. Hyper-masculine men are just as bad.

    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    100% What if I don't want to f*****g work out and build muscle. What if I don't want to lift that stupid heavy f*****g thing. "Is it heavy? That means it's expensive, put it back."

    C.S. E.
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When new people come to my job, I always tell them to put off that all important first back injury as long as possible because you never fully heal from it. If a box is more than 20 pounds, ASK FOR HELP. No one is judging your strength, but we will all judge your sanity when you throw out your back lifting a 35 lb box from the ground. One 6'4" guy didn't listen and, 3 weeks in, messed up his back so much, we could see the disc bulging when he sat down. Ended up on disability. Please, ASK FOR HELP EVERYONE!

    Lee Banks
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dude does the lifting, but I do the plumbing, electric, and drywall. I also do the cooking, but screw stereotypes: We're partners.

    Isaac Harvey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom is the one who works in my nuclear family. Meanwhile, my dad generally stays home and tends to household duties- and his antique cars.

    April Pickett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Darling, would you open that jar for me, please? You are stronger, but your strength has limits. So you can't open the jar, there are plenty of tools that can. If your other gives you s**t about it, o.k., but you are not less of a man because you can't. I've used knives, pliers, screwdrivers, and such to get my will on a can/bottle.

    Storm Rise
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly! Best trick out there is to tap smartly around the top edge of the lid with a wooden spoon- the lid unscrews without effort every single time!

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    Lee Banks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He does the lifting because he is bigger and stronger than me we both make sandwiches I kill the bugs and do the plumbing we are equals sorry for lack of punctuation it is not a choice

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    #20

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man When a woman expresses her feelings and/or problems, everyone can't get enough. When a man does, he is either ignored or told "man up dude". And this is something that'll go on forever.

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    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    KEEP EXPRESSING YOUR FEELINGS PLEASE!!! it's the only way the norms will change, being vulnerable is so healthy & brave - even more so for men in western culture! thank you for sharing this here💜

    CHRIS DOMRES
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But if it is always negative and on a daily basis, get some counseling.

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    Doctor Strange
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had this happen so many times. I put a post out there, needing my friends and support, and I get offered such kind comments as "knock it off" and "You're always so negative, no wonder no one wants you." A girl posts the same exact thing I do, hundreds of comments pouring in telling her how great she is, and offering support.

    Evolbeky
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry that happens to you :( Your feelings are valid and you deserve support too.

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    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think/hope this is starting to change. I’d far rather the men in my life told me how they felt.

    maka paka
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It won't go on forever, there's a big change going on in people right now where your feelings as a man are being validated. It's still not perfect but we're getting there.

    Donna Drizin
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love when a man expresses his feelings. It's just that they usually don't

    lenka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wont go on forever. It's already changing.

    Stymied Egan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who are you expressing them to? Everyone knows the guys you can't go to and expect sympathy. There is always a group you can. My husband is one of 6 brothers. Approach the group with a problem, you'll be laughed at. Go to one or possibly two at a time, they will listen and respond with care and concern.

    Yenny Tjiamudjaja
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so many complaints. women are not always expressing feelings, and that is okay. not relating to gender at all

    Belladonna.dreams
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I honestly think I'm more like this with women than men but I also know how hard it is for men to open up so I do my best to listen, understand and help if possible. I sometimes feel we feed too much into the emotions of women when sometimes they need someone to snap them out of their mind set and I'm speaking from the POV of one of those women.

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    #21

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Trying to talk to others about mental health (both mine and other's). As a child, my mother struggled with mental health but she was wise enough to get help and through that became determined to break the cycle in our family. She gave me the tools to deal with these struggles myself (and for others). So now, well into my 50's I'm an empathic, caring man, father, husband that can listen well (typically offering the advice of...you should get some professional help but I'm here for you). The problem is, any men in today's society judge my help as being "soft" or, "nosey " or being a "wash woman". Personally, I don't give AF but it is a sad statement in our society.

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    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men like you will help change the societal norms, simply by opening people's eyes to the fact that openly caring men exist. Thank you!! 💜

    April Pickett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's happening, but slowly. It's more accepted now that men are human and have human feelings (see women's feelings). Househusbands are still rare here, but coordinating with your other is more and more the norm. Keep doing what you are doing and be proud of it.

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    Louisa Spoke
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think you are a beautiful human. We need more of you.

    StarlightPanda!
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good for you. Forget people like that.

    Storm Rise
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank god for men like you. Your mum was so strong- especially for the times!

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    #22

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Women have no idea what it's like to go your whole life with no one ever thinking to give you flowers.

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    Kristal
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'll be sure to give my guy friends flowers then. I grew some Dwarf Sunflowers, I'll give them those

    Owen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's brilliant, and they will love them. They will also be very suprised and might not know how to react. But they will love them.

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    BookFanatic
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I gave flowers to a man once. He told me he wasn't gay and threw them out. I rescued them, and took myself out to dinner instead of him.

    Lil Miss Hobbit
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my male friends was just chatting with me once, and leaned down and picked a little flower and tucked it behind his ear without thinking. It makes me grin just thinking about it.

    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you like flowers tell me! Sadly in my approx 50 years on this planet, men have bought me flowers a grand total of twice. My colleagues sent me flowers when my parent died, but that’s it. If I want flowers, I buy them myself now.

    Meh
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always wanted to buy my man flowers he gave me a funny look when I gave him some once so now I buy them for the "house" but give them to him to "look after

    Lucy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I gave my son flowers all the time, because I agree…flowers are for humans. I knew I liked his girlfriend when he called and told me she sent him flowers. 🥰 every woman reading this should send their man flowers today or leave one on his dresser. Tell he he looks nice too

    troufaki13
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'll make sure to buy flowers to my future partner 🙂

    Isabel Care
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've given flowers. The response each time was "What the f**k am I supposed to do with this?"

    Doctor Strange
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For me, it's not about the flowers specifically, but about the thought. On the rare occasions I have a girlfriend, I love giving her little gifts. Not necessarily expensive, some times it is literally just a rock I found that I thought was pretty. But the point is that it is a tangible thing, something she can hold in her hand, and know I was thinking of her. When I go on a trip, I get her a souvenir. Not because of the 'thing' but because its my way of including her, even though she isn't there. When I spent a week in Europe, I wrote a letter to her every day. She didn't get them until I after I got home, but what matters is she got them, and she knew she was on my mind every day. THAT is what we want. For some guys, flowers are a great way to do that. For others, it might be something else. But we just want to know that we matter to you. That you think about us as much as we think about you. Guys need to feel special too.

    C.S. E.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like doing that with my friends and coworkers. I have a gift closet chock full of just little random things and I'll pass them out during random times of the year. I also like sending cards - usually funny, for absolutely no reason. Just to let them I know I'm thinking of them. My guy friends and coworkers seem to really get a kick out of getting stickers (Gudetama always goes over well). They'll look at me weird at first until I tell them 'Not hitting on you, just my thing. Thought it would make you laugh.' Sprinkle a little joy, people. It's nice to be thought of, especially for those of us who are quite lonely. No reciprocity expected.

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    Lexekon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    According to many videos, most men never get flowers, until their funereal. Feels real, sadly.

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    #23

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Trying to find the balance of being emotionally vulnerable and masculine in such a way that maintains attraction. This leaks into communication, sex, outward behavior, and damn near everything in a relationship.

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    ️Crystal️
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like that balance is nearly impossible in American culture, and I wish it were different 😞 vulnerability is a healthy trait for all relationships - women who say otherwise are contributing to toxic masculinity and are not worth your time, as they likely are not capable of healthy vulnerability themselves. Thank you for sharing this.

    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think he's overdoing it a little. Im not Mr Bear Grylls nor am I sensitive ponytail guy. I have a good balance of both(in my opinion and according to my wife). I think it comes from confidence and being sure of yourself more than a conscious balance between the two. I will also say once I passed 35 it felt more natural so it might be age/experience related.

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    Tracy Wallick
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women do understand this; it takes very little emotion for us to be labeled as b*tchy, crazy, hysterical, psychotic, etc.

    DJR
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think we're missing the difference between sharing feelings and whining here.

    Donkey boi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mate's ex broke up with him because he said 'make love'. According to her, 'Women "make love", men f**k! Or Shag! Or Screw!' and she didn't 'want a man that f***s like a woman'.

    Arturo De la Rosa
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is no balance in my experience, women find emotional vulnerability unattractive (to be fair is hard to blame them) despite their better judgment. They can rationalize it and control it like most people can but the impulse to be put off or to perceive it as weakness is there. i don't think there is an escape to this. You can even see this in gay couples, it seems to be a role that develops in relationships and plays an important part in attraction. Also men are often attracted to the opposite. A damsel in distress is appealing to most men. Even though we know they don't make the best partners.

    Cathy
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just be yourself sweetie, there is not a perfect balance here as different women like different things.

    sofacushionfort
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. Yes, there are women who say “he’s emotionally unavailable and I feel like I’m alone in the relationship.” And then there are women who say “whoa there buddy, I’m your girlfriend, not your therapist!” The thing is they’re not the same woman.

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    Jon Steensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah the issue is that often when someone states that they want a sensitive man, it means that they want him to be sensitive enough to see your problems, so he can help you solve those. It does not mean that they want a man who brings a bag of problems of his own and cries about them.

    Stymied Egan
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Be yourself. Act the way you feel. If you are creating a persona it will fade eventually. Just be who you are.

    Jeremy Bolanos
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't let someone else define my masculinity. I'm authentic, if you don't like it, then just move along.

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    #24

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man The ever lasting circle women put us in where they want us to communicate openly and honestly and then when we do, we have to justify what we said and spend a half hour explaining how what we said wasn't an attack on them but rather a logical statement. Gets annoying to the point I don't care to have an opinion anymore.

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    Lizz
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually appreciate that! I'd rather have the God-honest truth than someone who doesn't have an opinion

    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Our opinion just doesn't mattter, we are there for the heavy lifting.

    Lyoness
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is really sad. I hope you find someone who treats you better than this.

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    C.S. E.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem with saying 'it's a logical statement' is that it's logical to you, but obviously not to them. Women and men are both capable of logical thinking, but approach it in very different ways. Look at your wording '...then when we do, we have to justify what we said.' A request for further clarification isn't the same thing as justification. Your wording is very much that you are feeling frustrated and attacked by being asked to explain something instead of your partner just accepting it. Your wording shows a distinct lack of empathy which may be why your partner is having trouble understanding what you're trying to say.

    Urbane Gorilla
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Simply put, women are women and men are men... Women approach things differently than men do.. When a man explains something he explains it as if he's talking to another man.. That isn't what women need or want... Hence the term 'mansplaining'.. Just accept that you can't provide a woman's perspective on things and apologize for it if it goes over badly... Big deal... The differences between men and women is what's worthwhile.. Appreciate it and suck it up! ;-)

    meow point1
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "That wasn't a criticism" is basically my dad's catchphrase because of this.

    Donkey boi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Since my wife and I tend to have the same opinion on just about everything, I've not experienced this problem.

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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I sometimes snipe at each other. It's the equivalent of being armed with verbal peashooters. Usually happens when we're trying to put together furniture. On the positive side, we're on the same page with the saying "Sometimes I wake up b!+chy, sometimes I let her sleep in". Thank goodness he finds it hilarious. I'd have to pull out the water cannon if he insisted I be cheerful first thing in the a.m.

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    JK
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I feel your pain, this isn't just men, my husband does this to me ALL the time and it is frustrating af. Or asking "what are you thinking?" and somehow "nothing" is not an acceptable answer. I spend 95% or my day thinking, so when I get the chance I don't, or more commonly I'm thinking of a million little things that have no importance, but somehow that means I'm mad at him. Seriously, wtf is wrong with people who demand to know what's in your head and you're the bad guy no matter what you say next!?

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    how about, "If I had found it important that you should have known, I would have told you." Even in a relationship, you should have the right to a bit of privacy, and not every thought you have will be fit for a spouse to get in an unfiltered version.

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    Rick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    IMO, men can absorb and dismiss more potential criticism that women.

    Tess
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Try going through a rocky patch in a lesbian relationship

    SirWriteALot
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "communicate" and "criticize" both start with a "c" but they're not the same. So communicate respectfully.

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    #25

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man My wife and I are very affectionate with our young son. Tons of hugs and kisses. I know that there will be a point where he will no longer want that from me specifically but will be okay with her still showing that kind of love.

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    lenka
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope not. My husband still hugs his father. My son is 12 and still wants hugs and kisses from my husband. I expect there will be a period during puberty where it will stop, but hope that on the other side they will continue to be physically affectionate with each other.

    Monica Sargent
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son was raised to break that mold. In his teens his friends would come to visit and hang out in his room. When they would leave he would walk them to the door and hug them and say, "I love you". Every. Single.Time.

    Mabelbabel
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope that's changing. My step kids are all teenagers now, but they still hug and kiss their dad spontaneously. I've known them since they were tiny, and they were very cuddly as small children. These days they're taller than their dad and would crush my knees if they sat on my lap, but they still snuggle up with us on movie nights. I'd hate to have my boys scared to show affection, and any potential partner who belittles them for doing so doesn't deserve them.

    XanthippeⓐWulf🇨🇦️️🇬🇧
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes this! I grew up with an affectionate family. I have sensory issues & I'm sure when my brother went through puberty there was a short break while we were sorting ourselves out, but hugs & affirmations (even with friends) was the norm. Actually had a male friend mention my dad in his graduation speech for being the only man in his life who hugged him & always made him feel like he was worth something. And we're talking my dad who was such a big mountain of a man that his nickname was Paul Bunyan! There is nothing "not manly" about showing your feelings, and I hope you always keep that going!❤️

    ॐBoyGanesh
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The onus on reinforcing & normalizing this is on the parents for better or worse. Especially when it has to compete with conflicting external information. Our son is 9 and as two men we are very cognizant that he will be conditioned by society on some level to have an aversion to our hugs and kisses and public/open “I love you”s. We’re doing all we can to make sure he can still feel safe in our arms, crave our hugs and expect our kisses for as long as we’re alive.

    SirWriteALot
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm nearly 50 and still hug and kiss my father.

    Frank Hayes
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had finished my military duty and returned to my parents home. He offered his hand and I was visibly confused. He thought I became a man and wouldn’t want a hug. I had been gone for almost three years and I want a hug from his just as much as I wanted my moms!

    Jeremy Bolanos
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hugged and kissed my dad up until he passed. I'm not sure what he thought about it, but he never fought me off. It's how my mom's side raised me and I'll never not be a hugger.

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    #26

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man If we don’t express our emotions in a way that matches expectations, usually through actions and body language, they generally aren’t received or taken seriously, even when communicated clearly. It typically doesn’t matter how we *say* we feel. Then if we go so far as to have an outburst like yelling or crying, the emotions are finally understood and taken seriously, but they change people’s opinions of us, and usually in a negative way. There is no “I was just upset” excuse for us. We have to remain in control at all times because we’ll either be considered too scary or too weak, but in doing so, we’re constantly told that we don’t open up enough.

    heyitsvonage , Tima Miroshnichenko Report

    Kristal
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even though I am not male, I can relate to this, unfortunately. It really does mess a person up

    Baali Venomax
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not male either but my Dad raised me with the idea that showing emotion was weakness and everyone outside family will take advantage of you to hurt you if you dont keep it in. The only acceptable one is anger and rage because then they can see they took it too far and actions have consequences. As a result, I can physically only shed tears if I'm in pain or if my anger has crossed a certain point and I've lost control, else the tears dont come(allergies dont count). This meant I could not squeeze out even a single tear at Mom's funeral. I sat there feeling numb and surreal like the event wasn't really happening while my Dad teared up and instead of feeling sorry for him(as girls are supposed to), it just made me feel cold and angry. He was such a hypocrite, oh its okay for you to show pain but when I do it? I'm being weak. He called me a cold hearted **** and said I didnt care about anyone and all I could say was: Learned it from you. He started acting nervous around me after that.

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    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oof, I've experienced this to a lesser degree as a woman, so I can't even imagine how difficult this is for men. Acknowledging & respectfully expressing your emotions, that's healthy, so I hope men will start standing up for their emotional needs by finding other men fed up with this to create your own support system and encourage each other to find healthy women who will cherish, and listen to, your vulnerability 💜

    Jared Robinson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    we are not allowed to throw temper tantrums because we are too dangerous.

    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    as someone with the exact same experiences, may i suggest (1) speaking up sooner when you can be more calm, (2) removing yourself from the situation if you cannot be calm in the moment, and (3) speaking up later when you are more calm...easier said that done...good luck!

    Brian Redelings
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or when you point out things your partner is doing that you don't like and they start crying and trying to make you feel bad. So now you are still stuck with the things you don't like that they are doing AND you have to comfort and console them at the same time! Manipulative, narssasistic and emotional abusive. That's what you are doing, women, when you do this!

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    #27

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Talking about your mental health. In recent years I've become more open about it but a lot of the men around me just won't open up about it. There are people I know who have ended their life because of mental health issues. I think it's a difficult conversation no matter your gender, but a lot of men are told to "suck it up" or told that "men don't cry" so they have to keep it all inside.

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    ️Crystal️
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have so much admiration for men who bravely rebel against this status quo of men needing to be tough and emotionless. Keep going, this is how we change society!! 💜

    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You need to do that for yourself. Then it will become more normal. Nothing wrong with being emotional. Nothing at all

    Crescent 3
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is especially true if you're part of certain minority communities. I'm Black. In our community, a brother talking about his mental is dismissed as "soft" and ridiculed. I'm betting that it's the same for many Latin, Middle Eastern, and Asian men as well.

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Minorities' issues definitely need to be understood and addressed. It can be pressure to be "strong" or keeping up appearances within a group, not airing a group's problems, stereotyping from other groups or fear of being stereotyped, concerns being dismissed as trivial, etc.

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another man and I were talking about mental health and depression, and he mentioned to me that he's been depressed before, and his wife suddenly got irrationally angry. "What? What do you have to be depressed about? Why are you depressed? That's so stupid!" and really started bully and shame him until he backed down and denied he was depressed. It was really sad.

    Evolbeky
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's terrible. Depression can effect anyone equally

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    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have no one to talk to about my mental health at the moment. I am broke as hell and currently caretaking for my dying mother and grandmother. I can't be out of the house longer than it takes to get groceries most of the time. I'm 33.

    Tamra
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry. That's a lot for one person to handle alone. I took care of my mother when she was dying, and my mental and physical health tanked. Then my mother in law moved in. Things got worse. I hope there's some way that things can get better for you, that you can get a break.

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    vvv
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have noticed something recurrent with my (ex)boyfriends, is that when they had money problems (lost job for instance or didn't earn more than me) their mental health went in the socks. When the money came again , their mental health went up again. Definitely a pattern there.

    Edison Lima
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Society ties the sense of self worth in man to their financial success. There is a 1970's Brazilian song called "For Men Cry, Too'" that mentions the mental health of men in connection to work. In a bad and quick translation, it goes: "A man can cry, too,/ Mistress, madam/ Men, too, crave, to be held/ A hug, soft words,/ He needs tenderness/He needs to be embraced/ When being happy feels impossible/ I see that he cries/ I see that he bleeds/ I see that he is crushed./ His dreams are castrated./ His dreams are his life/ And his life is his job/ And without his job/ A man has no honor/ And without his honor/ He dies, he kills himself."

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    Maggie Fulton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mental health issues are hard. I hope someday people will be more understanding. Scr*w the people who tell you to suck it up. You don’t need to spend time around people who treat you like that.

    Erik Ivan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In some way, I am lucky there. Mental dissorders run In my family borh on mums and dads side. That means about half of my sibblings and cousins have some kind of low grade mental dissorder. So talking about it is kind of normal. And most understand when someone is feeling under the ice emotionally.

    Jon Steensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well if they tell you to suck it up, or man up, it is because they are not strong enough and in balance with themselves to deal with it in a healthy mannor. Instead they are letting a "bro" down by implicitly stating, "I don't want to help you, you are on your own", which in my opinion is not a very "alpha" way to treat people around you. An "alpha" loock out for the well being of his pack. (God do I hate that metaphor, but if it can help some selfproclaimed "alphas" deal with it in a more constructive way, then it is worth it). Instead you should be flattered that somebody trust you, and think that you have the skills to help them.

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    #28

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man I had a situation in that I overheard my fiance's mother once say to her in very different words that men have only two emotions. Rage and horny. Basically sounded to me like she thought all men with emotions were just con-men lying to get sex.

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    vvv
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately some generations of women didn't get a very good image of men.... I can recall my mother saying men only think about "that" thing ...very oddly her saying were confirmed by quite some men themselves...

    Nadia D
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, yeah, and after being raised with the idea of 24/7 horny men everywhere as a girl, you got out to the world with high hopes and expectations just to realise that men and not some sort of sex machines combined with ATM, but actual human beings complex and vulnerable. So strange for me that something sounds more like some extremely horny but sexually frustrated lady’s wet dreams suddenly became the whole generation thing…

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    Arturo De la Rosa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oscar Wilde once wrote: "Everything is about sex. except sex, sex is about power." he was not far off.

    The Short Lady
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men have been allowed only these two. Break the mold. Change the world.

    Lexekon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men have the full spectrum, but only these two are not ridiculed as being weakness. So you learn to cry in the shower.

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    Urbane Gorilla
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to make light of this , but it reminds me of the father who had to have 'the boy talk' with his young daughter.. After talking around the subject, he finally asked.. "You know what boys want, don't you?" ... The daughter looked at him for a moment and replied... "Yeah! They want to copy your homework!"

    Donkey boi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've got 3! Happy, content, and Angry. I don't don't count horny as one because you can be horny during the other 3.

    Jeremy Bolanos
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like someone who thought men only served the purpose of bringing home money and should otherwise stay out of her way. I hope Gen Z makes that idea extinct.

    Harry Koppers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    By being strongly discouraged to express emotions, all that's left is rage and lust.

    April Pickett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, show your fiance your difference. Take her hand, show her your feelings, and not everything you do will end up in bed. Pay attention to her/him and encourage the same back to you. Participate in the wedding planning, don't excuse yourself from everything because "there's a football game on". Encourage her to include you in everything and anything going on and pay attention.

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    #29

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Trying to figure out if she’s into you, or just being nice.

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    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You got to ask. It'll save hassle

    Silre
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here, let me clear it up for you. If she's working, she's just being nice.

    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a lesbian, I can't tell either 😖

    Not productive (but trying)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lmao exactly, people say “just ask, it’s not that hard.” Yes, yes it is

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    Sina
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're interested in her for something more than friendship, ask. Even if she's not into you, but values your friendship, IF you can settle for a friendship, then the awkwardness will fade away eventually. I'm a girl, and I can't bother with hints and signs either. I had to "play the game" for years, and honestly, it's exhausting and inconclusive. With my current relationship, I was blunt and straightforward. "Hey, we've been talking for x amount of time, I like you like you, how do you feel about me?", we got together, we're still together almost 10 years later, and I even changed countries for him. Women think that men get hints, when most of the times they're (like the guy in the post) trying to figure out the riddle. Just stop with the riddles. Be straightforward and upfront. It saves time and potential heartache. If you're a woman, interested in someone, just say it. If you're a guy and have feelings for someone, and wonder if they feel the same way, just say it.

    Ken Beattie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like there needs to be at least some amount of time before you just blurt out "hey do you like me" though. And that's kinda the trickiest bit. If it's someone from your college class or your job or whatever and you've gone out to lunch it could mean nothing, it could mean they like you as a friend, or it could mean they're into you. But it's kinda weird to ask too soon. And especially so if it's a co-worker.

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    Lydsylou
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just ask you won't offend anyone often they'll be flattered even if they do say no

    Kristal
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask. I mean, it's so simple. Just ask!

    A Really Bored Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But say it’s a close friend. Why would you want to possibly make the friendship awkward (or kind of ruin it altogether) and potentially lose what you have for a maybe one in a million chance?

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    Pillowarmidiloroku
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well for me I'm into EVEY guy I talk to so I don't know if other women are the same but that's just me

    Chris D'Asta
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sucks. Lately I just walk away and lose sleep thinking about it. I am terrified of looking like a creep.

    Jeremy Bolanos
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just assume she's nice. Sometimes, just going with the flow can be a turn-on.

    Lyoness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please please ask, then listen to what they say.

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    #30

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man The absolute certainty that society doesn't give a flying f**k about you unless you can offer something. There's no net for men, you're on your own.

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    Kristal
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could someone explain how this is a male only thing? To me, this seems true for any human being in society, I mean, look how people who are mentally ill or severely disabled are treated cause they can't "contribute to society"

    lenka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not a man only thing. Women are also only valued if they 'offer' something. Sex, looks, reproduction. And even if we do 'offer' these things we are cast aside as soon as the role has been fulfilled. We are not valued more than men and there is absolutely no net for women either. Middle aged women are the highest growing cohort of people living below the poverty line and homelessness.

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    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not true. In my country we have social support services for all kinds of problems including homelessness.

    Isaac Harvey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As the saying goes: “it takes a village.” One person shouldn’t be expected to do everything by themselves.

    April Pickett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, you'll crash and burn probably several times in your life, most people do. Be yourself, be "out there" and good luck.

    HolyDiver
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Going through cancer and still having to be the strong one for family and friends. Wanting to just give up and die was something I did in private to not burden anyone.

    Solidhog
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is modern society. We are told women don't need men to survive and many businesses treat us or care about us as much as they do about the rubbish they throw out. Skilled jobs are now looked down on and everyone of us is perceived either as sexual predator, stalker or killer.

    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I must admit I don't see this at all. I don't know where you are , how old you are or what your frame of reference is but this is not remotely what I experience as a male. I have a skilled job and am very respected. I am not looked at as a predator or stalker at all. Maybe you are spending a little too much time on 4chan gary?

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    Raphael Biock
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    2 years ago

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    A man is never loved as the person who he is, just for what he can contribute to society.

    Lyoness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is really sad. I'm sorry you don't feel like you have anything to contribute.

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    #31

    "Why don't you just go out there and find a girlfriend?" i have tried, and nothing, every single dating app i have used i have never gotten a match "just go up to a woman and ask them out" that is sexual harassment "you just have to try harder" i am in physical pain from trying just to get one compliment

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    Solidhog
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really relate to this. My son is 21 and has this exact problem. He needs someone to explore life and share experiences with such as traveling. He has tried, but society has made it so hard to find a girlfriend that is not obsessed with social media exposure or just using dating sites to confirm their attractiveness rather than looking for a date. And trying to date in the real world is whole minefield as all men are now seen as either killers, stalkers or rapists.

    TotallyNOTaFox
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that's not even mentioning how appearence plays a factor in this - Being asked by a handsome guy is seen as flattering, but if somebody less good looking does it it's considered creepy behaviour

    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I relate to this as a lesbian so I imagine it's much worse for men & I'm sorry that you have to experience this.

    Bored Retsuko
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why the F would it be "so much worse for men"? Genuinely asking. Straight people have a much bigger of potential partners.

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    Donkey boi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Asking a woman out is not sexual harassment. Not accepting their answer and persisting on the other hand, is!

    JMil
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Practice your social skills! Your confidence and ability to attract will naturally increase. Get out in the real world and talk! You can practice this with your own sex as well and it will naturally be transferable to women.

    Lucy
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are young girls where I work and I listen to their dating stories, which sound awful. The other side of this is they feel as though men want all the comforts of a relationship without the commitment. They feel like they’re being used, which they are.

    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not good, there’s a lot of lovely men out there who are single. It works the other way too though, dating apps flooded with inappropriate messages and photos. Can’t walk up to a man in a bar as that’s not what ladies do. Honestly, it’s wonder anyone finds a partner!

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    #32

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Sometimes she just wants me to listen (which I do) and other times she wants me to fix it (which I also do). I get it right more than 50% of the time, The other times I get yelled at for not doing the right thing. She'll go on a rant about me not providing the correct response. I just remove myself from the situation and wait for the cool down.

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    Sandra Morison
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Get the hell out , you sound lovely

    Rick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes you just have to let her vent and she does the same for you. There are somethings that can't be resolved.

    Arturo De la Rosa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True. most people just want to vent. The problem is that some people tend to drown in a glass of water and is so hard not to be stupid and point out the obvious solution right in front of them. In a perfect world one would just listen an nod, in reality is just bait for an argument.

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    Bent Screw (she/her)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seems like there are deeper issues on her part.

    Jon Steensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this is a common issue. Men wants to solve problems, and get frustrated when they don't feel that they can offer any solution, while women just want to get heard and gather some sympathy, so she can know that she is not alone. She then gets frustrated when he proudly proclaims "here is what you just need to do" before she has finished talking, as she thinks that he cannot even care to listen to what she has to saym while he thinks that he scored a point for finding the right solution so quickly. Figuring out if we are in problem-solve-mode or emotional-support-mode is therefore really important, as misunderstanding is otherwise bound to pop up really fast. Knowing this difference in thinking pattern between the genders, and you may avoid a lot of arguments.

    Lizz
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ladies, please..... Learn to speak "man"

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    #33

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man Modern society can view us being totally useless but somehow in charge of everything Or getting your c**k caught in a zipper a la Something About Mary style The latter is probably the worst thing

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    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Getting things snagged in a zipper is bad, but have you ever had testicular torsion? That s**t is next level pain!

    Xenon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Might have been funny for the movie, but that happening for real? I don't have a penis but that still makes me cringe hard.

    VonBlade
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is spectacularly painful. The zipping up is bad but you weren't expecting it so it's not super awful, but once it's there and you know you need to unzip... that's the really bad times.

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    #34

    Men Share 30 Things They Believe Women Will Never Understand About Being A Man The whole series or why do you like/why are you doing/wearing/eating/drinking/feeling x or why do you know about or how to do x, you’re a guy? Questions we get on a regular basis. Why are you wearing pink? You’re a guy Why are you drinking anything that’s not a beer? You’re a guy Why are you in this pottery class? You’re a guy Why did that movie make you tear up? You’re a guy Hell my favorite was when I was asked that question because I asked for water on a hot day. Apparently drinking water isn’t a thing guys are supposed to do. Even got asked that when someone asked why I was wearing glasses. Apparently if you’re a guy you’re not allowed to see properly. Just about every guy gets questions like these on a regular basis that they probably don’t even notice any more. It’s also not just other guys that ask this but men, women, family members, kids, servers, and I’ve had people at places that tried to make a point that everyone was loved and accepted ask stuff like that even if it wasn’t intentional.

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    Ace
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't imagine what sort of a world you live in where you experience these things at all, let alone on a regular basis. Never happened to me, none of them. Well, maybe once, many years ago on a stag do, all the guys including me drinking beer and I ordered a glass of red wine to go with my steak. TBH I think they really didn't get it, rather than being a man thing, until I just said "one cannot possibly eat a steak without a glass of red".

    Jennifer Ness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thanks, I was wondering if I lived in an alternate reality.

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    Michael P (Perthaussieguy)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The last two movies I watched that made me tear up, 'Sleepless in Seattle' and 'City of Angels'. Not afraid to admit it. I lost my wife to a heart attack some 20 years ago now and these two movies really hit the mark.

    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do not fully understand this attitude, it's very close minded & toxic to question someone's every choice, particularly based on their gender 🙄 I'm so sorry y'all are experiencing these things. Keep doing you and wearing pink and seeing clearly and staying hydrated... societal expectations will not change if we live in fear of authentic living 💜

    XanthippeⓐWulf🇨🇦️️🇬🇧
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get it, but also if you give into these things, aren't you perpetuating the issue? I mean seriously, why do you care that other people care about these things? I'm genuinely curious 🤔 As my beautiful, amazing mother, Marceline the Queen of Everything would say..." If they don't feed you, f**k you, or pay your bills, why do they matter?"

    Jon Steensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because there are some limitations on how "wierd" you can act and still be able to find friends. It is stupid, but the reason why it survives is group pressure. The fear of ending alone can make us adapt so we apear to more like the others and will fit in. The sad thing is that it can cause some really bad spirals, where everbody does something stupid, e.g. drinking to much or start smoking, because they think that that is what the others are doing and finding cool. Other people's opinion of us is important for our options in life, e.g. you probably won't be promoted if you told your boss your unfiltered opinion on how you think he is managing things, and that can have a major impact on your salary and what you'll be able to buy ,and so on

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    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I learned a long time ago to take my own water or drink with me wherever I go, When did it not become polite to offer your guest something to drink?

    Donkey boi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have never had any of those questions, or anything like them. The closest would probably a few of my mates would refer to my pink shirt as 'salmon coloured', but even they would drink fruity cocktails if I recommended them.

    Jon Steensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Confidently say: Because I like to, it makes me happy, and it isn't hurting anybody, so why not? To be quite frank, I don't give a rat's a*s about whether it makes people with less selfconfidence a bit unconfortable. That is just their opinion, and it is rooted in nothing but a stupid genderstereotype. It is my life, an I can do it, so that is how its gonna be." I didn't like the bitter taste of beer for a long period, and really why drink something you don't like the taste of, and even pay for that? It was just stupid group pressure and I considered myself strong enough to not buckle under it. I may have come of as a bit weird, but who cares, I was not the stupid one here.

    Bols
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Any gender stereotypes are BS and harmful

    Synthfox (He/Him)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been drinking water my whole life, guess I'm a felon. 🤷

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    #35

    Honesty & feelings: Women ask for that in a relationship & yet when you do, they say that not true & you don’t feel that way. Or worse, look down upon you because you let to much feelings come out. Don’t be vulnerable around a woman, get into a men’s therapy group to let it out.

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    Daria
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get the same from my bf who acts like he (thinks he) knows me better than I know myself, and if I say anything different it means I'm lying. This labeling c**p is so annoying :(

    Jon Steensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yep and in the worst cases it is gaslighting, and can be really harmfull.

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    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Therapy if you need it, definitely. Surrounding yourself with people who allow you to be vulnerable is priceless though.

    ️Crystal️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just because women are more confident expressing their emotions doesn't mean they're capable of having a healthy conversation about emotions - don't settle for someone who can't have a respectful conversation or at the very least is willing to go to therapy and learn how.

    Arturo De la Rosa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men's therapy group sounds gay. They would say (kind of agree)

    Jon Steensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...and that is were you tell them to shut up as the don't have the slightest clue what they are talking about. Therepy is about realising that there are some aspect in your life where you can improve and actually putting in the effort of learning how to do so. Only an idiot completely dismiss the notion that there is something he can become better at, and it is far better to deal with a problem that to just ignore it completely.

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