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Math sometimes gets a bad rap. Traditionally, it’s not the most well-liked subject in school. Students often complain that it’s difficult to understand. In fact, in a 2023 survey, math ranked only above foreign languages as a subject in terms of people’s favorite. 59% of respondents said they liked or loved math when they were in high school.

Perhaps some of these math lovers are now fans of the Meme For Mathematicians Facebook page. It’s the perfect place to go to have a chuckle or two if you’re a professional mathematician or just an average fan of crunching numbers.

Bored Panda reached out to Ben Orlin, the creative mind behind Math with Bad Drawings. We asked Ben why math should be important to everyone and what the best ways to learn and teach it are. Read our conversation with him below!

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm also quite partial to there being 3 types of people, those who know how to count and those who don't.

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The 'Meme for Mathematicians' page has around 250k followers and has been entertaining math enthusiasts since 2020. And it's not just a Facebook page; they're on Instagram, too. Their X (Twitter) page, however, goes in a bit of a different direction. Titled RoughHistory, it's a place for interesting historical pictures, coupled with the occasional funny memes and videos.

We might think that not many people go on to study mathematics, but in 2020, about 1.9 million students got their bachelor's degrees in mathematics. The 2018 Cambridge International Global Education Census actually found that mathematics was the most popular subject among students.


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To learn more about the wonderful world of mathematics, we reached out to Ben Orlin. He's the author of four books about mathematics: Math with Bad DrawingsChange is the Only ConstantMath Games with Bad Drawings, and Math for English Majors which came out this year. He presents the many practical and wonderful ways in which math shapes our world. And he does that through the medium of stick figure cartoons

Ben is a Yale graduate in mathematics and grew up in a very mathematical world. His dad is a math professor at MIT, his sister is a math teacher as well, and his wife is a research mathematician. But Ben decided to become a teacher of mathematics in quite an unconventional, less academic way.

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"Math is gorgeous and bizarre," Ben tells us when we ask him why math is important for everyone to know. "It gives us fractal coastlines, logical paradoxes, infinities nested like matryoshka dolls, perfect wheels that aren't circles, and curves that somehow have a sharp corner at every single point."

"At its best, math will blow your mind into little pieces, and then stitch those pieces back together into a whole new mind that better appreciates the weirdness of our universe."

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She also lives in a different dimension perpendicular to yours

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Speed is relative. Unfortunately both your speedometer and a radar work on the same plane of relativity.

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As a teacher, Ben knows a thing or two about how hard the subject can be for some students. Sometimes, it's not just about maths being hard; some students can find it outright boring. He says the first thing teachers should do is establish a connection. "You've got to know your students," he says. "There's no teaching without relationships."

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, what about it? Zero is not any less significant or useful than any other number.

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However, just because math is hard, that shouldn't deter teachers from giving students more demanding problems to solve. Pushing students just the right amount might make them fans of mathematics. "Give them problems that are welcoming but challenging," Ben told Bored Panda. "Math won't always feel easy – but it should feel approachable."

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"Third, honor their thinking," Ben goes on. "Math is meant to sculpt our powers of logic, calculation, and reason – and to do that, you've got to appreciate the beauty of the raw material, all the fabulous intuitions and insights that students already have."

"Then, if all else fails, slap some dollar signs in front of the numbers," Ben recommends. "'Negative four' doesn't always capture the imagination. 'You owe me four bucks' always does."

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except 1) it never happened and 2) hot catalytic converters in gas-powered engine are a common source of ignition in bush fires. https://tceq.texas.gov/airquality/mobilesource/vetech/catfire.html

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah that's the downside of pop-sci. Everyone is a theoretical physicist now

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There are many different branches of math: algebra, trigonometry, calculus, statistics, geometry, etc. But Ben Orlin finds probability the most fascinating. "My first book had chapters on lottery tickets, financial meltdowns, and human genetics. It's bizarre that the same simple mathematics applies to all of these things. Plus, probability gives us simple problems whose solutions are totally counterintuitive."

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We had this before, the answers are 0, 0, 0, 1 and total annihilation of the universe

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a former engineer and astronomer and I remember it as 3.14159. almost no one needs more than that.

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"We sometimes call them 'paradoxes,'" Orlin goes on. "For example, the birthday paradox. But all they are is straightforward calculations that happen to shatter our expectations. In a room of just 23 people, it's likelier than not that two people share a birthday. Weird, but true."

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It's "fake" as its not a force, more a consequence of matter bending the fabric of spacetime. The universe is one huge vector field really

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Doing math is good for us and our brains. A Stanford University study shows that students who are good at math are also better at decision-making and retaining visual attention. You might've been thinking in school that you'll never need to use the Pythagorean Theorem, but learning math at school isn't really about that.

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Doing math consistently fosters our neuroplasticity, or, as Neil DeGrasse Tyson put it, 'A new kind of brain wiring,' one that makes us better at problem-solving. It's not about the facts and the formulas that we learn, but about what methods, tools, and tactics we've had to develop to solve those mathematical problems.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And it's everywhere simultaneously, and rotating it 360° leaves you looking at it's a*s. Rotate it another time 360° to face it's front again

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay, who else thought "hole in one" at first and sat there trying to figure out what golf had to do with this? (Btw if ppl want to know, the joke is that there's a hole at 1, meaning it's literally "no one"; for "absolutely no one" there's nothing below 0, which is what absolute value of numbers causes)

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My uncle was a civil engineer and mother was a doctor. He liked to say, "when you make a mistake somebody dies, when I make a mistake a LOT of people die"

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the second one, divide top and bottom by the square root of two to get the first one.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, everything can be divided by something, whether you get a whole number or not is another story.

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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is like that magic trick anyone can do - watch me shuffle these cards into an order that has (most likely) never been seen before! Tadaaaa!

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BRA-KET notation for those who cares. Look up Paul Dirac. Really cool guy

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Alan Turing. He and his team shortened WWII and saved countless lives. In return, the persecuted him for being gay, gave him a choice between jail and chemical castration, and when he chose the latter, it depressed him so much he unalived himself.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can extend this.. Sqrt(1234567899987654321) = 1111111111; Sqrt(123456789989987654321) = 11111111111; Sqrt(12345678998789987654321) = 111111111111 Sqrt(1234567899876789987654321) = 1111111111111 and so on.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shouldn't this be the other way around? First and second derivative?

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Either there’s a very clever link between this text and this image, or I’m even more lost than I already was.

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