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Man Snaps At A Mom On A Plane After She Fails To Discipline Her Kids During The Flight, Wonders If He Went Too Far
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Man Snaps At A Mom On A Plane After She Fails To Discipline Her Kids During The Flight, Wonders If He Went Too Far

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Hopping on an airplane always requires a little preparation. But for parents traveling with a couple of restless souls on board, it’s a whole different story. Unpredictable schedules, fears, boredom, and cranky moods are just a few challenges moms and dads face when flying. Not to mention the stares of disapproval from fellow passengers that follow them as they make their way down the crowded aisle.

Controlling the little ones in a confined space is not for the faint of heart, and you can’t blame the parents who try their best. But let’s face it: no one likes to sit near a screaming child or have their seat kicked perpetually for hours on end. Something that this traveler knows from personal experience.

As the now-deleted user detailed in a recent story on the AITA subreddit, a family of four was seated behind him as they returned to New York. “The plane takes off and the boys start yelling about how this is [the] best day ever, and generally making a lot of noise,” the man recounted. At first, he was able to tune them out — until their son just couldn’t seem to stop messing with his seat, and he finally snapped.

Scroll down below to read how the incident unfolded, be sure to weigh in on the discussion in the comments, and keep reading for our interview with psychologist Lawrence Cohen, Ph.D., for some tips on how to make traveling with kids a breeze.

After a child kept messing with his seat on an hours-long flight, this passenger finally “lost it”

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Image source: Gerrie van der Walt (not the actual photo)

Now the man is wondering whether he went too far, so he turned to the internet for advice

Image source: Hanson Lu (not the actual photo)

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After reading the story, the majority of people firmly sided with the user. And it’s hardly surprising why, as kicking the back of someone else’s seat is the most annoying thing a fellow passenger can do. A recent survey by The Vacationer polled over 1,000 American adult travelers and found that 59% of respondents said seat kickers are the most irritating people on board. Additionally, inattentive parents took fourth place, as nearly half reported they find poor parenting on flights unpleasant.

Flying is just as big of a challenge for kids as it is for their parents and the people around them, and policing the little ones is sometimes a daunting task to accomplish. But as Lawrence Cohen, Ph.D., a psychologist and author of Playful Parenting and The Opposite of Worry explained, there are many ways moms and dads can ensure airplane travel with children would be smooth sailing.

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One reliable method is to familiarize kids with the experience through play. “Help prepare children for what to expect by playing airplane — a lot. Make sure the play is fun, not a drill!” Cohen told Bored Panda. “But introduce characters such as a person in the seat in front who is a bit cranky. Exaggerations get the laughs, and laughs bring in the learning.”

According to Cohen, some of the most common trouble spots for children when flying are popping ears, tense passengers, restricted motion, noise restrictions, loudness of the plane, and the excitement of the travel and the trip. “Why is excitement a trouble spot?” he asked. “Because any intense emotion can be overwhelming for the young nervous system. Anticipate which of these might be especially difficult for your child, and play it out, and talk about it in advance.”

The fear of children running amok on board can unfortunately even discourage parents from air traveling at all. But psychologist Cohen pointed out that flying doesn’t have to be all doom and gloom. “I would hate to see families miss out on the fun, family, and educational value of travel just because of a possible mismatch between kid-energy and adult passenger-energy. The things children do that bother adults are mostly normal — but they are aggravating.”

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Cohen admitted that the one behavior that really gets him is a child kicking his seat. But if your little one is notorious for this kind of shenanigan, he noted it would be a great storyline to introduce into your airplane games.

Later on, he added an update to clarify some questions people asked in the comments

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While the internet is chock full of advice for how parents should calm down a restless child, co-passengers may be left wondering how to respond to these situations. Should they speak up? Address the child? Get flight attendants involved, especially if parents make no attempt to discipline their kids?

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In these situations, it’s important to consider that moms and dads know their children much better than random travelers. “Attempts to restrain or interfere may well make things much worse, while benign neglect may make things better faster,” Cohen explained. “It could also be that the parent feels helpless and embarrassed, and that leads to a freeze response. The best way out of a freeze response, naturally enough, is warmth! So if fellow passengers are understanding and empathic, then parents will rally faster and feel less helpless.”

Cohen advised that it may be beneficial to speak directly to the child, not the parent, but only if you can do it in a warm or neutral tone of voice. “Harshness, anger, crankiness, sarcasm — we are all very used to these forms of communication, especially nowadays. But young children are easily overwhelmed by this level of emotion coming at them from a large person.”

Jarring words directed towards the child can make them shut up, “which may seem like a success, but it isn’t. More often, it leads to an increase in troubling behavior, because children are only obnoxious when they are emotionally overloaded or are not getting their needs met.”

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To handle your inner frustrations, Cohen offered his favorite plane trick — “pat the baby” — he uses everywhere he goes. “I stole the idea from the neuroscientist Louis Cozolino. Pretend you have a fussy little baby on your shoulder, and you are giving them gentle pats on the back, like burping a baby.”

“Let your breathing slow,” he continued. “Let love and that warm feeling of attachment flow out of you. I do it when a baby on the plane is crying, or when my own grandchild is upset. It seems to spread calmness — at least through myself! — but also throughout my section of the plane.”

Most importantly, don’t forget to have empathy for the stressed-out parent. “A dirty look — or a scolding screaming fit — has never helped a parent do better. Never ever. A warm smile, an ‘I’ve been there’ expression, or a ‘You’ve got your hands full’ bit of compassion is the way to go,” Cohen concluded.

The vast majority of readers were firmly on the side of the passenger, here’s what they had to say

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Ieva is a writer at Bored Panda who graduated in Scandinavian studies from Vilnius University. After learning the Swedish language and getting completely lost in the world of Scandinavian mythology, she figured out that translating and writing is what she's passionate about. When not writing, Ieva enjoys making jewelry, going on hikes, reading and drinking coffee.

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Hyrule26
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had the same thing on an Eighteen hour flight. I lasted two hours with the kid behid me screaming like the little hellwretch that she was, throwing a massive tantrum and kicking my seat. I have very good noise cancelling headphones, and had death metal blasting at full volume. I could still hear her. I asked the parents but they ignored me. they didn't do anything and just watched the show. Eventually I turned around and yelled at them to "silence your hellspawn before I stab you with this" while brandishing a spork at them through the seat gap. Kid went quiet. Stopped kicking. I understand their plight.

Marilyn Russell
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, perhaps delete the threat of stabbing with anything in the future. People can and will take things seriously and may get you in hot water.

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Alice
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yesterday I was on the train, also 8 months pregnant, uncomfortable, in pain and could not sleep all night. next to me there was a mum with 3 children, and one child who was around 6 year old, was kicking the train seats for no reason. I felt so horrific that the kicking into the seats felt like kicking into my face. I went told her to be more quiet (stop kicking the seats). I got the death stares from her. but honestly, if it would be the crying baby I understand, but 6 year old should learn some boundaries. I am not going and screaming around the train myself, I was very quiet. even if the child would be autistic or something like that, they could give them the fidget toy and other autistic children or sensitive passengers would get triggered by the kicking noises. so I am 100% with this man here, mum should teach some boundaries, her children should understand to respect others around them.

Helen Waight
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Yelling at someone who just lets their kid kick/bash someone else’s seat is perfectly ok. That can *really* hurt. (Thank you small kid on the early train out of Paddington who kept rabbit kicking my seat. Today I have to take my strong painkillers)

LapCat
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel his pain. This past summer I took my teen daughter to Egypt for her first time to visit our relatives (I am full Egyptian heritage but raised in California.) The connecting flight from Munich to Cairo was 90% Egyptians on board. The adults were just as unruly as the kids! The flight attendant was pushing the refreshment cart down the aisle, this one man finishes his Cola, asks her for a refill two times - let her finish serving others for godssakes! Then she gets berated by at least 3 people because the free snack (a halal/kosher sandwich) tasted terrible… as though the flight attendant personally picked this snack to feed us. Another woman from the front of coach approaches her and complains her kids being able to smell the hot food in first class and “how unfair it is for her kids.” People getting up and out of their seats to mess with their bags in the overhead when the fasten seat belt sign was on. Even the pilot had to get on the intercom to tell everyone to sit down.

LapCat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In conclusion, my daughter and I were mortified with second-hand embarrassment and I personally apologized to the flight attendant for the behavior of the other passengers. It was as though none of them had ever flown in their life.

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Vix Spiderthrust
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. The obligation is on the parent to keep their brats entertained and stop them bothering people.

Pumpkin Spice
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, Indian here. Never heard about this stereotype though. Now I know why people on flights always look at me weirdly or move to another seat when I'm traveling alone. I thought they just didn't want to be seated next to a teenager.

Mary Bank
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh I much rather sit next to a teen than a bratty little kid or the mom.Teen's are quiet and private!

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Sharon Gersowsky
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On a very long, transcontinental flight, I had one of those nasty little seat kickers behind me. After multiple entreaties to mom and child, I finally snapped. I told the brat next time he kicks my seat, I'm going to stuff him in the overhead bin. The End

Karen Sandness
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One Sunday in church about twenty years ago, I sat in the same row as a young father with two small children. The father was sitting in the lotus position on the pew with his eyes closed, while the children had discovered that raising the kneeling benches and slamming them down on the hardwood floor made a sharp, loud cracking sound that was almost like a gunshot. I saw people cringing each time the kids did this. Dad just sat there with his eyes closed. Finally, I sidled over, put my foot down on the bench, and gave the kids my most intense "teacher glare." People nearby turned around and mouthed "thank you" at me. Later, at coffee hour, the father came up to me angrily and said that I had scared his children. I said that they had been bothering people, and if I was the scariest thing they'd ever seen, they were too sheltered. He insisted that they were just being high-spirited and having fun, and he wanted his children to have fun in church. We never saw them again.

Susan Carter
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - You were in the right, don’t feel bad - Been there before! Flight from Hawaii to Dallas. I politely asked the young boy to stop kicking the seat, he stuck his tongue out at me. He stopped for a bit then started up again kicking harder then before. I again nicely asked him to stop however this time his mom said don’t speak to my son. So I asked her to please tell him to stop, she didn’t. I finally had to ask the flight attendant for help …. Thankfully, She moved me to a different seat!

Michelle Cherry
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, I have done this on a bus. The kid was hitting the glass window. Yes, I could have been calmer but I was already kind of scared because the bus was making odd sounds already and I don't like being in vehicles. The tenth time the kid smacked the window after I asked them to stop, I snapped and asked if they were raised in a barn and I demanded their parents pay attention to their crotch goblins before they break the bus's very expensive window. The mom was watching her phone and the dad just pulled his hood down and ignored it all. Kids were ten or so, very much old enough to know better.

Gail Lynn
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hhhmmmm... Old enough to be in school, so yes those kids should behave better. I just don't get it. I guess parents have just checked out. I swear, if parents aren't going to RAISE THEIR KIDS...DO NOT HAVE THEM!! We'd all appreciate it!!!!

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Kat Min
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, last time that happened ot me, I snapped at the kid... (And I swear, I saw some relief in the faces of the parents. That child was devil's spawn)

deanna woods
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never flown before, but if I had as a child, my sister and I would have been told to behave and not cause any problems or we would be in trouble when we got home. There is absolutely no reason for children to sit up and cause trouble for an entire flight. If parents can't or don't want to control their children in public or on public transportation, then they need to stay home and just get used to Uber Eats for all of their needs.

Brenda Horvath
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Out of control kids are just the worst thing. Every parent just doesn't want to believe that their kids could ever be anything like out of control or do anything like that that would be unimaginable, but it's true. When the parents don't step in something must be done. I blame the parents for their kids being out of control.

GA Chic
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have suggested the Dad switch seats with me - at least that way the out-of-control brat could kick Dad's seat. The parent's child = their problem. If you cannot control your children you definitely should NOT travel by plane with them.

I love tacos (I love pizza too)
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You were more patient than I could ever be. I'm impressed you lasted as long as you did, good for you!

Nizumi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Given a choice between Indians and Eastern Europeans or Brits, I'll take the Indians, thank you. Too many times I've been stuck with drunks either next to me or behind me.

Mary Smith
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've literally never heard that Indians travelers are "worse" in any terms at all...that was a shock to me. Anyway, I applaud this fella; they were the åssholes, not him. He was polite before and it didn't do the trick, but he tried.

Julia Sankaran
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Indian kids are by far the most out of control" WHAT? As an American who has spent a good amount of time in India and invited into many different Indian homes I have not experienced that AT ALL. Every child I met was a SAINT compared to American children, even American kids who are relatively well behaved.

Jane Doew
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't understand why irresponsible parents exist. Don't have kids if you're not responsible enough to raise them to not be insufferable hyenas and animals. Kids need to be taught BOUNDARIES AND DISCIPLINE, and be shown examples of good behavior. I had this one massive tool of a father walk into a fast food restaurant, proceeded to tear apart the display and throw it around with his kids in the MIDDLE OF THE ORDERING LINE/AREA. Then just LEAVE without cleaning up the mess he and his non-human, monkey-children made all over the ground. I asked him if he was going to clean it up since they made a mess and this wasn't a playground, it was a restaurant. He proceeded to get physically threatening and verbally abusive. Absolutely no emotional control and the thought process of a prehistoric cave-person. The standards of parenthood are poor now-a-days.

Virginia Howard
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Numerous times I have changed seats to accommodate parents (I have grown children) so they could be with their children during a 6 hour flight. I do it less after a woman said she wanted to sit with her children,, actually with her husband a few rows away, the children sat with me with nothing to occupy them and not once did either parent check in on them. Upon disembarking I quietly said, I am not their baby sitter and lying to me was over the top but that they could have checked on their children and considered some entertainment while flying.

Himory TheDreamer
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Obviously not the same thing but my country has something similar about online games, people on multiplayer avoid us like the plague and I 100% understand why, can't expect to be treated nicely when you treat others like c**p. I've never been out of my country but wouldn't be surprised if there was a similar stereotype when it comes to traveling.

Debbie Cash
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A new relationship of 3 months, we took a trip to Mexico from Michigan. Before we even took off, the kid was kicking my seat. I turned around to give him a look. The mother said “You’ll live.” Dad and brother were also in the row and mom was across the aisle, and two seats behind. The kid continued to kick my seat. After an hour or so, I turned around and asked the dad to please stop the kid, that I had back pain. He leaned forward and loudly berated me. I called for the flight attendant. The kid mostly stopped for the rest of the flight. My boyfriend was seated across the aisle and one row up. This was 18 years ago and I still get stressed thinking about it. If I had not been on a date….

Mike127
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem here is in todays world we are not allow to spank, hit, and whip our kids. Back when i was little if me or my sibling misbehave you can be sure i get my a*s handed to me by my mom with belts or a whip on my a*s. Do i learn my lesson hell yea after being whip a few times in the a*s. Nowadays we can't do that no more or majority of parents is too soft and prefer talking to their kids. Sorry but between talking and getting whip i learn my lesson when i feel pains.

Elizabeth Molloy
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You shouldn't have to ask anyone to control their spawn in any environment, never mind an enclosed one such as an aeroplane! Good for you!!

Evelyn Haskins
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You need a Gold Medal! Unfortunately the crew cannot eject woman and child mid-flight

Celtic Pirate Queen
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My flight was only a little over3 hours, but the kid behind me was a little brat. I asked his Mother several times to have him stop kicking my seat. She was useless. I finally turned completely around in my seat, leaned over and screamed in his face to STOP. KICKING. MY. SEAT. Freaked him the f*ck out and she got really p*ssed. My response? "Then act like a f*cking parent, you moron".

Joe calbery
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a horrible thing when friends and family make you second guess your actions in situations they were not even present for. Yell away my friend, their attention to etiquette should have been at 11 while traveling (and more so while traveling with children)

bugsway Frisk
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA I do not have great patience in long distance travel I would have cussed her out by then...

Ralph Watkins
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was on a bus trip into NYC. Two women allowed their children to run up & down the aisle like screaming demonic creatures. The bus driver tried to tell the mothers to get their kids under control. It became a running battle of spoiled kids, childish mothers, & a professional bus driver trying to maneuver in fast moving city bound highway traffic. At one point the bus driver had to slam on the brakes & swerve as a car cut us off. Now these women are livid, accusing the bus driver of trying to harm their kids. Now other passengers are fed up with the drama. A group started yelling at the women & their kids. The bus driver even had to threaten to pull over & call 911 to have them all removed from the bus. Some very precise insults were spewed at these two. They were good for the last 30 minutes of the ride in. When it came time to leave the city hours later, the women & their spawn weren't there. The bus driver sat for an extra 5 minutes & then pulled out. Too bad.

Radheeka Khadan
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop sugar coating . I hate when kids make noise throughout the whole flight, when am seated between or next to an oversized person. That is very unfair to the other people on the abe that pay to fly comfortable. Train your dam kids or drive wherever you want to get to. They should have been thrown out of the plane.

Mary Bank
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Little tip, book the very last seat on a plane. We almost always do this. Yeah you are some of the last to get on and get off but WORTH IT not to have anyone behind you playing with the tray, kicking your seat or sticking nasty feet through onto the arm rest. ew.

Kiwi
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wouldn't it have done to demand she manage her kids and left out the insult. Seems to be a mild one, but was it necessary?

Mary Bank
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2 years ago

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Biliegh Berrie
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It takes a village to raise a child. If I see that a parent 100 is not going to do anything, I absolutely say something to the child.

Ghxst Batt
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He's definitely TA. You don't know the situation of those kids. It is never the child's fault for their behavior.

Isabella Desantis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The situation of those kids was that they are not disciplined. No, he is not TA, at all. The only a*****e is the mother who was rolling her eyes when someone asked her to stop her spawn from kicking his seat. There is no way on earth i have to put up with someone else's kid's bad behaviour and kicks. If you can't manage your kid, keep him at home. No one has to put up with your spawn monster. He was definutely in the right to yell at her. I would've yelled a lot sooner, but some people have more patience than i do.

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Hyrule26
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had the same thing on an Eighteen hour flight. I lasted two hours with the kid behid me screaming like the little hellwretch that she was, throwing a massive tantrum and kicking my seat. I have very good noise cancelling headphones, and had death metal blasting at full volume. I could still hear her. I asked the parents but they ignored me. they didn't do anything and just watched the show. Eventually I turned around and yelled at them to "silence your hellspawn before I stab you with this" while brandishing a spork at them through the seat gap. Kid went quiet. Stopped kicking. I understand their plight.

Marilyn Russell
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, perhaps delete the threat of stabbing with anything in the future. People can and will take things seriously and may get you in hot water.

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Alice
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yesterday I was on the train, also 8 months pregnant, uncomfortable, in pain and could not sleep all night. next to me there was a mum with 3 children, and one child who was around 6 year old, was kicking the train seats for no reason. I felt so horrific that the kicking into the seats felt like kicking into my face. I went told her to be more quiet (stop kicking the seats). I got the death stares from her. but honestly, if it would be the crying baby I understand, but 6 year old should learn some boundaries. I am not going and screaming around the train myself, I was very quiet. even if the child would be autistic or something like that, they could give them the fidget toy and other autistic children or sensitive passengers would get triggered by the kicking noises. so I am 100% with this man here, mum should teach some boundaries, her children should understand to respect others around them.

Helen Waight
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Yelling at someone who just lets their kid kick/bash someone else’s seat is perfectly ok. That can *really* hurt. (Thank you small kid on the early train out of Paddington who kept rabbit kicking my seat. Today I have to take my strong painkillers)

LapCat
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel his pain. This past summer I took my teen daughter to Egypt for her first time to visit our relatives (I am full Egyptian heritage but raised in California.) The connecting flight from Munich to Cairo was 90% Egyptians on board. The adults were just as unruly as the kids! The flight attendant was pushing the refreshment cart down the aisle, this one man finishes his Cola, asks her for a refill two times - let her finish serving others for godssakes! Then she gets berated by at least 3 people because the free snack (a halal/kosher sandwich) tasted terrible… as though the flight attendant personally picked this snack to feed us. Another woman from the front of coach approaches her and complains her kids being able to smell the hot food in first class and “how unfair it is for her kids.” People getting up and out of their seats to mess with their bags in the overhead when the fasten seat belt sign was on. Even the pilot had to get on the intercom to tell everyone to sit down.

LapCat
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In conclusion, my daughter and I were mortified with second-hand embarrassment and I personally apologized to the flight attendant for the behavior of the other passengers. It was as though none of them had ever flown in their life.

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Vix Spiderthrust
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. The obligation is on the parent to keep their brats entertained and stop them bothering people.

Pumpkin Spice
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, Indian here. Never heard about this stereotype though. Now I know why people on flights always look at me weirdly or move to another seat when I'm traveling alone. I thought they just didn't want to be seated next to a teenager.

Mary Bank
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh I much rather sit next to a teen than a bratty little kid or the mom.Teen's are quiet and private!

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Sharon Gersowsky
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On a very long, transcontinental flight, I had one of those nasty little seat kickers behind me. After multiple entreaties to mom and child, I finally snapped. I told the brat next time he kicks my seat, I'm going to stuff him in the overhead bin. The End

Karen Sandness
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One Sunday in church about twenty years ago, I sat in the same row as a young father with two small children. The father was sitting in the lotus position on the pew with his eyes closed, while the children had discovered that raising the kneeling benches and slamming them down on the hardwood floor made a sharp, loud cracking sound that was almost like a gunshot. I saw people cringing each time the kids did this. Dad just sat there with his eyes closed. Finally, I sidled over, put my foot down on the bench, and gave the kids my most intense "teacher glare." People nearby turned around and mouthed "thank you" at me. Later, at coffee hour, the father came up to me angrily and said that I had scared his children. I said that they had been bothering people, and if I was the scariest thing they'd ever seen, they were too sheltered. He insisted that they were just being high-spirited and having fun, and he wanted his children to have fun in church. We never saw them again.

Susan Carter
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - You were in the right, don’t feel bad - Been there before! Flight from Hawaii to Dallas. I politely asked the young boy to stop kicking the seat, he stuck his tongue out at me. He stopped for a bit then started up again kicking harder then before. I again nicely asked him to stop however this time his mom said don’t speak to my son. So I asked her to please tell him to stop, she didn’t. I finally had to ask the flight attendant for help …. Thankfully, She moved me to a different seat!

Michelle Cherry
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, I have done this on a bus. The kid was hitting the glass window. Yes, I could have been calmer but I was already kind of scared because the bus was making odd sounds already and I don't like being in vehicles. The tenth time the kid smacked the window after I asked them to stop, I snapped and asked if they were raised in a barn and I demanded their parents pay attention to their crotch goblins before they break the bus's very expensive window. The mom was watching her phone and the dad just pulled his hood down and ignored it all. Kids were ten or so, very much old enough to know better.

Gail Lynn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hhhmmmm... Old enough to be in school, so yes those kids should behave better. I just don't get it. I guess parents have just checked out. I swear, if parents aren't going to RAISE THEIR KIDS...DO NOT HAVE THEM!! We'd all appreciate it!!!!

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Kat Min
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, last time that happened ot me, I snapped at the kid... (And I swear, I saw some relief in the faces of the parents. That child was devil's spawn)

deanna woods
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never flown before, but if I had as a child, my sister and I would have been told to behave and not cause any problems or we would be in trouble when we got home. There is absolutely no reason for children to sit up and cause trouble for an entire flight. If parents can't or don't want to control their children in public or on public transportation, then they need to stay home and just get used to Uber Eats for all of their needs.

Brenda Horvath
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Out of control kids are just the worst thing. Every parent just doesn't want to believe that their kids could ever be anything like out of control or do anything like that that would be unimaginable, but it's true. When the parents don't step in something must be done. I blame the parents for their kids being out of control.

GA Chic
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have suggested the Dad switch seats with me - at least that way the out-of-control brat could kick Dad's seat. The parent's child = their problem. If you cannot control your children you definitely should NOT travel by plane with them.

I love tacos (I love pizza too)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You were more patient than I could ever be. I'm impressed you lasted as long as you did, good for you!

Nizumi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Given a choice between Indians and Eastern Europeans or Brits, I'll take the Indians, thank you. Too many times I've been stuck with drunks either next to me or behind me.

Mary Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've literally never heard that Indians travelers are "worse" in any terms at all...that was a shock to me. Anyway, I applaud this fella; they were the åssholes, not him. He was polite before and it didn't do the trick, but he tried.

Julia Sankaran
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Indian kids are by far the most out of control" WHAT? As an American who has spent a good amount of time in India and invited into many different Indian homes I have not experienced that AT ALL. Every child I met was a SAINT compared to American children, even American kids who are relatively well behaved.

Jane Doew
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't understand why irresponsible parents exist. Don't have kids if you're not responsible enough to raise them to not be insufferable hyenas and animals. Kids need to be taught BOUNDARIES AND DISCIPLINE, and be shown examples of good behavior. I had this one massive tool of a father walk into a fast food restaurant, proceeded to tear apart the display and throw it around with his kids in the MIDDLE OF THE ORDERING LINE/AREA. Then just LEAVE without cleaning up the mess he and his non-human, monkey-children made all over the ground. I asked him if he was going to clean it up since they made a mess and this wasn't a playground, it was a restaurant. He proceeded to get physically threatening and verbally abusive. Absolutely no emotional control and the thought process of a prehistoric cave-person. The standards of parenthood are poor now-a-days.

Virginia Howard
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Numerous times I have changed seats to accommodate parents (I have grown children) so they could be with their children during a 6 hour flight. I do it less after a woman said she wanted to sit with her children,, actually with her husband a few rows away, the children sat with me with nothing to occupy them and not once did either parent check in on them. Upon disembarking I quietly said, I am not their baby sitter and lying to me was over the top but that they could have checked on their children and considered some entertainment while flying.

Himory TheDreamer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Obviously not the same thing but my country has something similar about online games, people on multiplayer avoid us like the plague and I 100% understand why, can't expect to be treated nicely when you treat others like c**p. I've never been out of my country but wouldn't be surprised if there was a similar stereotype when it comes to traveling.

Debbie Cash
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A new relationship of 3 months, we took a trip to Mexico from Michigan. Before we even took off, the kid was kicking my seat. I turned around to give him a look. The mother said “You’ll live.” Dad and brother were also in the row and mom was across the aisle, and two seats behind. The kid continued to kick my seat. After an hour or so, I turned around and asked the dad to please stop the kid, that I had back pain. He leaned forward and loudly berated me. I called for the flight attendant. The kid mostly stopped for the rest of the flight. My boyfriend was seated across the aisle and one row up. This was 18 years ago and I still get stressed thinking about it. If I had not been on a date….

Mike127
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem here is in todays world we are not allow to spank, hit, and whip our kids. Back when i was little if me or my sibling misbehave you can be sure i get my a*s handed to me by my mom with belts or a whip on my a*s. Do i learn my lesson hell yea after being whip a few times in the a*s. Nowadays we can't do that no more or majority of parents is too soft and prefer talking to their kids. Sorry but between talking and getting whip i learn my lesson when i feel pains.

Elizabeth Molloy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You shouldn't have to ask anyone to control their spawn in any environment, never mind an enclosed one such as an aeroplane! Good for you!!

Evelyn Haskins
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You need a Gold Medal! Unfortunately the crew cannot eject woman and child mid-flight

Celtic Pirate Queen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My flight was only a little over3 hours, but the kid behind me was a little brat. I asked his Mother several times to have him stop kicking my seat. She was useless. I finally turned completely around in my seat, leaned over and screamed in his face to STOP. KICKING. MY. SEAT. Freaked him the f*ck out and she got really p*ssed. My response? "Then act like a f*cking parent, you moron".

Joe calbery
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a horrible thing when friends and family make you second guess your actions in situations they were not even present for. Yell away my friend, their attention to etiquette should have been at 11 while traveling (and more so while traveling with children)

bugsway Frisk
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA I do not have great patience in long distance travel I would have cussed her out by then...

Ralph Watkins
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was on a bus trip into NYC. Two women allowed their children to run up & down the aisle like screaming demonic creatures. The bus driver tried to tell the mothers to get their kids under control. It became a running battle of spoiled kids, childish mothers, & a professional bus driver trying to maneuver in fast moving city bound highway traffic. At one point the bus driver had to slam on the brakes & swerve as a car cut us off. Now these women are livid, accusing the bus driver of trying to harm their kids. Now other passengers are fed up with the drama. A group started yelling at the women & their kids. The bus driver even had to threaten to pull over & call 911 to have them all removed from the bus. Some very precise insults were spewed at these two. They were good for the last 30 minutes of the ride in. When it came time to leave the city hours later, the women & their spawn weren't there. The bus driver sat for an extra 5 minutes & then pulled out. Too bad.

Radheeka Khadan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop sugar coating . I hate when kids make noise throughout the whole flight, when am seated between or next to an oversized person. That is very unfair to the other people on the abe that pay to fly comfortable. Train your dam kids or drive wherever you want to get to. They should have been thrown out of the plane.

Mary Bank
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Little tip, book the very last seat on a plane. We almost always do this. Yeah you are some of the last to get on and get off but WORTH IT not to have anyone behind you playing with the tray, kicking your seat or sticking nasty feet through onto the arm rest. ew.

Kiwi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wouldn't it have done to demand she manage her kids and left out the insult. Seems to be a mild one, but was it necessary?

Mary Bank
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2 years ago

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Biliegh Berrie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It takes a village to raise a child. If I see that a parent 100 is not going to do anything, I absolutely say something to the child.

Ghxst Batt
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He's definitely TA. You don't know the situation of those kids. It is never the child's fault for their behavior.

Isabella Desantis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The situation of those kids was that they are not disciplined. No, he is not TA, at all. The only a*****e is the mother who was rolling her eyes when someone asked her to stop her spawn from kicking his seat. There is no way on earth i have to put up with someone else's kid's bad behaviour and kicks. If you can't manage your kid, keep him at home. No one has to put up with your spawn monster. He was definutely in the right to yell at her. I would've yelled a lot sooner, but some people have more patience than i do.

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