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Guy Refuses To Trade Homes With His Brother Just Because He Has A Big Family
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Guy Refuses To Trade Homes With His Brother Just Because He Has A Big Family

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Despite supposedly “being in your corner” many folks out there have truly entitled, demanding, and annoying families. They will ask for things without stopping, gaslight, bother, and pressure you into conceding to their requests, and make you feel bad for just existing.

A man turned to the internet for advice after a campaign of manipulation and harassment from his brother’s family, who wanted them to swap houses. Because the brother had more children, he had deluded himself into thinking he really was entitled to OP’s home. So began a long series of attempts to get OP to move out.

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One man was constantly harassed by this brother who wanted them to trade homes

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Entitlement usually affects individuals, not entire family groups

Entitlement is sadly common enough that most people have encountered a truly delusional person at least once, but it’s rare to see it in an entire family unit. Because the brother’s demand is truly unhinged, as OP is in no way, shape, or form required to just let a whole family take over his hard-earned house because it’s more comfortable for them.

A possible explanation for this behavior is that “Karen” and the brother feed each other’s delusions, leading to this sort of behavior. While it’s not perfectly understood, there appears to be some connection between narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), Bipolar disorder, and a general attitude of entitlement.

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One research paper by Dr. John Gunderson and Dr. Elsa Ronningstam states that “Characteristics shared by the two disorders and thus failing to discriminate between NPD and bipolar disorder are notable. A sense of entitlement occurred in both diagnostic groups in Morey’s and our studies; that is, both narcissists and borderlines felt that others should recognize their needs and give them special favors.”

In other words, OP’s brother and his partner are a match made in heaven (for each other) as they seem capable of staying together while maintaining these delusional beliefs. Unfortunately, OP, no doubt their children and random passersby have already or will suffer from them being downright horrible, mean, and entitled.

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OP should resist giving in to their manipulation

There are some forms of entitlement that are not entirely detrimental. “Earned” entitlement, coming from care, good behavior, and hard work is psychologically beneficial and a solid way to stop someone from taking advantage of you. In a sense, OP’s feeling that his house should be used how he wishes is a form of earned entitlement.

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This is by no means a bad thing, he did earn it and should defend doing what he wants. Very often adult children are taken advantage of by predatory parents who use guilt and their own, often less earned, feelings of entitlement to manipulate them. Only by understanding your own rights and worth can a person resist the manipulation and the guilt-tripping that entitled folks often employ.

Fortunately, the tone of OP’s post suggests that he does know he is in the right and he now has the backing of hundreds, if not thousands of comments all suggesting that his brother and his family can go shove it. Because they really should. There is nothing wrong with asking a family member for some help, but you should meet them a lot further than halfway, instead of subjecting them to a campaign of psychological bombardment.

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I am a writer at Bored Panda. Despite being born in the US, I ended up spending most of my life in Europe, from Latvia, Austria, and Georgia to finally settling in Lithuania. At Bored Panda, you’ll find me covering topics ranging from the cat meme of the day to red flags in the workplace and really anything else. In my free time, I enjoy hiking, beating other people at board games, cooking, good books, and bad films.

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I am a writer at Bored Panda. Despite being born in the US, I ended up spending most of my life in Europe, from Latvia, Austria, and Georgia to finally settling in Lithuania. At Bored Panda, you’ll find me covering topics ranging from the cat meme of the day to red flags in the workplace and really anything else. In my free time, I enjoy hiking, beating other people at board games, cooking, good books, and bad films.

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I'm a Visual Editor at Bored Panda, crafting captivating visual content to enhance every reader's experience. Sometimes my mornings are spent diving into juicy dramas, while afternoons are all about adding extra laughs to the world by editing the funniest memes around. My favorite part of the job? Choosing the perfect images to illustrate articles. It's like imagining a story as a movie in my mind and selecting the key shots to tell the story visually.

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Jay the not okay
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the original proposal is like already completely ridiculous. op worked hard to buy his own house. houses aren't cheap stuff.

Alina Mihai
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know why you were down voted. People really need to check their entitlement.

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Cassie
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Every Christmas/winter holiday, every anniversary, every birthday. Heck, just get condoms on Amazon subscription and have a box delivered once every month right to their doorstep.

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Michelle C
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard..."Even though you own your home you need to trade with your brother who keeps having kids he can't afford to house"...Dude get a trespass notice filed to keep Karen off the property.

Seadog
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd bet money that brother and family would have the house literally destroyed within a year. He's in the position he's in for a reason and lack of caring about anything is assuredly one of them. Want my house? It's $XXXXXXX

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Chase Ighani
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looking at the comments of the user, it looks like this was a satire post, not a real incident, the user is just looking to make troll posts. Might be a good idea in the future to check things like that.

Lyrica Melody
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's an AI product that's scrambled together several incredibly similar stories. Why AI and not just a creative writing exercise like most of the stuff on that subreddit? Because it's a very poor, pale shadow of even the worst of those, plus it has far fewer spelling and grammatical errors than is usual for human-produced posts. Also, it makes zero sense, with no explanation at all for the complete lack of common sense expressed by a large portion of the poster's relatives... does anybody believe people act this irrationally in real life?

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Willy Nilly
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The whole situation is insane, the fact that OP is even questioning themselves about saying no is more so. I hope this one is fake. No one should feel so entitled as they do. My goodness, what is happening in this world?

Maikku
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh wow.. Our apartment is kinda small for us, and my BIL has a house... Hmm, getting ideas here.. (OrNOT) :D

Sunny Day
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Life is a series of decisions and consequences. You chose to wait to have children, which allowed you to buy your own home. Your brother & Karen decided to have a bunch of kids they really couldn't afford, and therefore are stuck in a too-small apartment that is all they can afford. You bear no responsibility to their poor planning. If they bring it up again, just tell them "no". Also make sure Karen knows your brother won't be inheriting your house should something happen to you. (Nor will your parents, who would let Karen move in.) She sounds a right nutter.

Thatkamloopsguy
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think at this point you need to use a phrase I have always found useful for people like this. Go fu ck yourself.

Jill Bussey
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who "forced" them to have four children? Was it OP? No. There's is no obligation on OP to do anything for them and I would be changing the locks on OPs house so fast it would make "Karen's" head spin.

Carole G.
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA! What an astonishingly ridiculous idea. SIL wants to get a feel for the house, how very presumptuous. My goodness, you work hard, achieve home ownership & they expect you to toss it over to them? Entitlement abounds. I'd stay clear of the whole family.

Ron Baza
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“My family's response has been mixed. Some understand my perspective and respect my decision, but others believe I'm being selfish and unsupportive of my brother and his children. They argue that I should be more willing to help family in need, regardless of personal sacrifices.” Good point. Those people can sell their own homes, live on the streets, and hand all their money to the brother. We all have to make sacrifices!

Lost Penny
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"You should downsize & get a roommate! At the least, I mean..." "Yes, you're right. I've been thinking the same lately. I think I will get a cat... He can have his own room, I'll invest in a couple of cat towers... It'll be awesome! What a grand idea, you're a genius, Karen!" Then sit down, grab your popcorn, and enjoy the meltdown.

Wai Keet
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this in the USA and are they Trump supporters? I really think that only people who are morons and delusional fit into this category.

Mojayokok
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - The answer is simple - just tell your relatives that you’re so they’re willing to make a sacrifice and trade houses with your brother. I mean they’re so f*****g adamant about it, then THEY can switch houses with them.

María Hermida
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really can't decide whether OP belongs to one of those cultures where family has a say even on when you can poo and he has been brainwashed into thinking he has to listen to everything his family says, or his family are a delusional bunch of entitled a******s who think they deserve everything just because. Either way, Christmas is a very timely moment to remind people of the magic power of NO. "No" is a whole sentence. Just no. Because no. No guilt. No explanations. Do you want a bigger house? Buy one. You can't afford it? Not my problem. You've too many children and too little space? Since when are your bad decisions in life my problem?

MoniMoni
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Justin Sandberg, please correct your article. The studies you referenced in your article were regarding differentiation between Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), NOT Bipolar Disorder (BD). While the abbreviations can be understandably confusing, if you're going to provide mental health information in your articles, its your responsibility to ensure you're not spreading misinformation about an already highly stigmatized diagnosis. Thank you.

AspieGirl88
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh, the family are rallying round & saying your brothers family needs help?? Well, then perhaps THEY can offer up THEIR homes!! The sheer audacity & entitlement of some people, SMH. 🤨🤦‍♀️

Richard Michael
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BS story. OP admits to satire. Do better Board Panda. This is ridiculous.

AMaureen Dance
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Regardless of personal sacrifice"? I'm all for family making reasonable sacrifices for each other. Your sitter suddenly took ill, and you need someone for a week? I can handle that. Your car died, and you need a lift to work for a few days? As long as it doesn't take me too far out of my way. Your rental apartment is too small for all the kids you chose to have, and you'd like the big house that I bought? ARE YOU INSANE???

Eric Lafleur
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are insanely out of touch. If they are struggling with money AND living space, they need to do two things: 1- both of them need to work/get better jobs. 2- they need to stop f.. like rabbits. They are the A-H for even thinking they are entitled to your house.

Lizzie Tudor
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Having children is a choice. Your brother and his partner made an active choice not to use contraception. This is on them 100%. In addition, your SIL is manipulative and controlling, don't let her do that to you. If your parents are that bothered, they can open their home for them, instead. They'll be having another kid in 18 months, so they won't have learned their lesson, guarantee it. Buy them condoms.

Reta Murphy
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So you pay the mortgage on your home, they pay rent. Rent is probably as much if not more than your mortgage. They have already proved they are not financially stable. You will end up paying your mortgage plus your rent. NTA will be if you fall for Golden Boy's antics. Tell your mom and dad they can switch with them.

Larry Conatser
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would not trade with them. They need to get up and help themselves to better their living arrangements. You are NTA

Rusty Lewis
Community Member
7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What planet are these people on? NO is a complete sentence and requires no justification or excuse. SIL is a special kind of entitled b***h if she thinks she can walk into SOMEONE ELSE'S HOUSE and tell them how to live or where to live. This screams "India/Southwest Asia to me, since half the family thinks OP should give up something he worked hard for to someone who needs to close their legs for a while. This would be a non-starter from the jump in most Western cultures. OP should meet SIL at the front door next time and tell her to turn her entitled a** around and go back home, because this is not happening. The only thing I would even consider paying for is a tubal ligation for SIL or a vasectomy for bro. And I would tell any family member who told me to trade my house to them that maybe THEY should consider trading THEIR house. See how quickly they step off when you say that!

DustBunny
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your relatives can chip in and buy them a house—and some birth control—if they’re so concerned. First, this is insane and no reasonable person would even consider it. Two, you know if they can’t get out of a financial hole now they can’t afford the house—they’ll lose it to foreclosure or unpaid taxes or just lack of maintenance.

Inmate 24601
Community Member
8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Restraining order. They're harassing you. Karen inviting herself to your space and walking in uninvited is breaking and entering. File a police report against her. Don't let your "family" pressure you into giving up what you have just because your brother can't keep his d**k in his pants and Karen can't keep her legs closed. You are under no obligation to do anything or help in any way. If they can't respect that, like I said, restraining order. And call the police if they keep contacting you after it's been served.

Keith Lancaster
Community Member
8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If your brother and his wife are so hard up then maybe they should have stopped at two children? I think it's time to block this woman from your social media etc.

Sophi-ish
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

why don't the op's other siblings/parents trade their houses with karen?

Fight Hypocrites
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man, I really messed up. I have two childless siblings. Both of them own homes that have full basements; mine does not. One of those houses is probably worth twice what mine is, the other one three times--one may not be as big on the ground floor as mine, the other might be a little bigger, but it's not just the sq footage. They're both in better locations. Still, the kids would have loved that. Why didn't I think of this?!?

Miranda Williams
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I had 4 kids, we hit hard times, did a major career change and went back to school. My brother was SUPER kind to let us stay in his 600 sq ft one bedroom condo. We were so thankful and made it work as well as took care of his business and property to the extent of our ability. Meanwhile, my childless sister and her husband purchased a 5 bedroom house. I was happy for her and it was beautiful. Sure, I was a little jealous because we were so cramped, but I would NEVER EVER dream of switching her, let alone actually saying out loud. What in the world? Even now, we have 6 kids. We're doing well, but she still has a bigger house than me. Not a big deal. I'm happy now to have a roof over our heads that we own and it fits us! Some people....

alloutbikes@yahoo.com
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not only the mortgage payment, property taxes, insurance, larger electricity bills, possibly a longer commute which may increase car insurance premiums, different schools for the 4 children. Maybe no more children and some budgeting classes would help them to become home owners instead of simply taking one.

Rainbow Goddess
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There were multiple updates to this. The situation went on and on and on. At one point, his brother showed up at his doorstep with his entire family, expecting to move in. Then the brother and wife and kids moved into a camper on the OP's property to wait until OP moved out.

Dawnieangel76
Community Member
12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. If his brother & SIL can't afford a bigger house, they should stop having more kids. Birth control is cheaper than a mortgage.

Chihuahua Mama
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So they chose to have FOUR kids, while not having enough space and money for them, and now someone else has to be held responsible for THEIR choices?! I really hope this isn't real because the level of entitlement is just too much for me to comprehend

Kathrin
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how in the world does someone get this idea in the first place? if they are struggeling with space and money, they should not get that many kids.... totally NTA

P.L. Packer
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WTH??? OP managed to buy his own house while "big brother" managed to go into debt apparently and have 4 children. It's not OP's responsibility to clean up after brother and SIL. I would change every lock on my house, tell the Karen she can use her space saving, money saving tips on her own family and tell everyone else if they want brother in a bigger place, then THEY can help finance it. This family seems to have no boundaries at all.

Seadog
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On another note. I've known people very similar to this. Not necessarily demanding to trade homes but they'll do all kinds of things to take one when a family member dies. I've seen some manage to somehow get their names added to the deed even though the home was never theirs and the owner never agreed to have them added to the deed. Where I live this takes a lawyer and yet it still happens. A word of advice, if you have someone you want to have your house or car when you're gone and you can trust them, have their name added to the deed before it's too late. It automatically becomes theirs because they're already an owner and there's not a thing anyone can do about it. As for relatives such as I've mentioned and like the ones in the story, watch your credit score, deeds and titles closely. People like that will stop at nothing even if it means using your property as collateral on a loan they have no intention of paying back or taking out credit cards in your name.

Jude Laskowski
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Stop listening to these cr*zy people who tell you to give up the house you worked so hard for. Your brother and his wife need birth control; now you know what to give them for Christmas and birthdays. Change your locks and do not give a key to anyone!

Jaybird3939
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They won't take care of your house. They'll insist you take care of every bit of damage THEY do to the home. 4 kids are rough on a house! As someone else said, those demanding you do the exchange, should give up their own living arrangements and accommodate your brother & wife, who don't seem to understand the things that will change when they take over your home. They need a major reality check, especially SIL.

Stay Off My Lawn
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The unmitigated audacity!!! They should have thought about how they were going to house their children before they started having children.

LayDiva in the Zone
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The nerve of people never ceases to amaze me. I'd have laughed in their faces. I'd tell my brother to stop his wife from begging because I'm not moving. Only a true simp would even consider something so stupid. Tell them that they have 4 kids, not you, so they have to find housing where it's available, and you aren't considering their stupid idea. No one does that!

Suzie
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd have told them it's not my responsibility to house children they obviously couldn't afford and walked away laughing at their audacity. Then I'd be changing the locks if any family members have a key and set up a security system.

JK
Community Member
1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

FYI- check Reddit and his comments, OP's own words "I enjoy coming up with these fantasy stories you should read the update" - OP literally makes these posts up for karma points, total fiction Link here https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/s/hYilPXgk6B (hes a 30 something Scottish guy with a thing for anime https://www.reddit.com/u/Nervous_Ad5411/s/5ktrS3iLdq) *edit for typo!

Natalia
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is it even a question? Either this is bait or OP has been brainwashed by his bat-s**t family!

John
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I hear about family chime in about how family should help family, I always want to say "thankful for volunteering your own help". It's quite easy for others to be generous with other people stuff but never their own.

Mike Loux
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"So, you're buying my house, then (at current market value, natch)? No? Well, there's your answer."

Spittnimage
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why stop with just the house? Demand he buy an SUV or van for them to haul all those kids around. Pay the utilities because we know they can't afford them for a big house. Tell family you did not get that woman pregnant, therefore housing them isn't your responsibility.

Cassie
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If OP is paying a mortgage, it's probably more than they are paying in rent. Do they expect to not have to pay to live in the house? If they did, they could just go buy their own house or rent a bigger house. The ask doesn't make sense unless they expect a house for free while sticking OP with a payment every month and that's even more ridiculous than just trading spaces.

Carla B
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The writers for Bored Panda should do their research more throughly. It didn't take me long to find a similar post by the same person saying that it was a satirical story and he would continue with a part 2. It is all made up.

PeakyBlinder
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This cannot be true, nobody can be stupid enough to seriously consider this. If they cant afford it they shouldnt have for children. I dont know why OP Puts up with this s**t, Listen to this bs and lets the crazy woman in his house

Mad McQueen
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We live in apt. But let's have 4 kids. Let's not try to get better jobs to make security for ourselfs. Let's bombard the brother with a house he owns to just give it to us. And let's grind in all the stuff we want and sprinkle it with how bad it is for us. Maybe they can ask another family member to give them a house instead.

K Miller
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The entitlement to just expect someone to be ok with giving up their house is just wild. Also if they're struggling financially then why are they growing their family?

Kyle Morganstern
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BPD is Borderline Personality Disorder, NOT Bipolar Disorder. You would think the TWO co-authors would fact check their work.

Sandra Morison
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA.....both of them are responsible for their own life NOT YOU. ENJOY YOUR HOME .

Chrissie Anit
Community Member
1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It says in the reddit comments that OP admitted that this was a satirical piece of writing. So, fake af. Do your research, Justin!

Brainmas
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is insane right? You are not responsible for other people's poor life choices. If you are struggling, don't have 4 kids and then complain that their life is hard. You did that to them, that is your problem. Offer to fund a vasectomy.

Margrete Sonnenberg
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This guy has multiple different aita posts the differ. One post he has gf than the next its a wife, he also made a troll post about if he's an a*s for not buying his pet rock a condo. Also this story seems like the rip of a certain another user post from the entitled people subreddit talking about his entitled brother, wife, their 3 kids and parents. They wanted him do same thing.

Queenie G
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. If your brother and sister in law don't have the space, quit having babies! This whole thing is crazy, this is your house, not your families! I don't understand the mentality of some people.

C.O. Shea
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He ain't heavy, he's my deadbeat brother... mummy & daddums need to trade houses with their progeny. Derp!

V Noe
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your home is your home. If your brother (sister-in-law) wants a better place to raise their family, he (she) needs to find a better income. Meanwhile, 1. all locks on the home should be changed immediately, and no spare keys given to any family member. 2. block Karen on all media platforms and your phone. 3. tell the parents and brother you have made a decision, you will not give up your home, and you will not discuss it further. if they attempt to argue, walk away or hang up. 4. inform all other family members who harass you that the discussion is closed and any attempt to continue it will result in no contact for the foreseeable future.

Ivana Bašić
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DC
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Does your SIL have a key to your house? How else could she come inside without you knowing? Anyway, either she returns the keys to your house, or you should change locks. If she's intrusive enough to just show up there, without invitation, without telling you and all that, she - and your brother along - will not stop where she's now, but increase her intrudity, increase any and every sort of pressure she's applying to you. This has a ring to it that makes me expect your brother to, pretty much, be a doormat that acts on your SIL's command. Help him get divorved, eventually! Support him then, take in everyone of them - but SIL, and only if, when and because they're seperating themselves from her. And, your house is your house. You didn't wake up and, surprisingly, found yourself having a house, did you?

Fun Fan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Change the locks, and cut those psychos out from your life!

Alyssa Phillips
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sure! I'll charge you my mortgage+my new rent for apartment+200$ (for repairs). First+last month's rent upfront. I'll waive a deposit since you're family. 🫠

Rocco MZ
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know you're not the ahole, you just needed validation.

WonderWoman
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell your brother and sil to downsize the family, give away one or two of the children and see how they react! OP owns a house and he is being pressured to give it to his irresponsible brother and sil? That is insane and to heck with family who went along with that. NO family is better than THAT family.

Adam Belaire
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope OP installs cameras and put it in writing that he will never agree to swap houses so they can't make up a false "contract" and say that OP said he'll swap houses.

Jay the not okay
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the original proposal is like already completely ridiculous. op worked hard to buy his own house. houses aren't cheap stuff.

Alina Mihai
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know why you were down voted. People really need to check their entitlement.

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Cassie
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Every Christmas/winter holiday, every anniversary, every birthday. Heck, just get condoms on Amazon subscription and have a box delivered once every month right to their doorstep.

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Michelle C
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard..."Even though you own your home you need to trade with your brother who keeps having kids he can't afford to house"...Dude get a trespass notice filed to keep Karen off the property.

Seadog
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd bet money that brother and family would have the house literally destroyed within a year. He's in the position he's in for a reason and lack of caring about anything is assuredly one of them. Want my house? It's $XXXXXXX

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Chase Ighani
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looking at the comments of the user, it looks like this was a satire post, not a real incident, the user is just looking to make troll posts. Might be a good idea in the future to check things like that.

Lyrica Melody
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's an AI product that's scrambled together several incredibly similar stories. Why AI and not just a creative writing exercise like most of the stuff on that subreddit? Because it's a very poor, pale shadow of even the worst of those, plus it has far fewer spelling and grammatical errors than is usual for human-produced posts. Also, it makes zero sense, with no explanation at all for the complete lack of common sense expressed by a large portion of the poster's relatives... does anybody believe people act this irrationally in real life?

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Willy Nilly
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The whole situation is insane, the fact that OP is even questioning themselves about saying no is more so. I hope this one is fake. No one should feel so entitled as they do. My goodness, what is happening in this world?

Maikku
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh wow.. Our apartment is kinda small for us, and my BIL has a house... Hmm, getting ideas here.. (OrNOT) :D

Sunny Day
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Life is a series of decisions and consequences. You chose to wait to have children, which allowed you to buy your own home. Your brother & Karen decided to have a bunch of kids they really couldn't afford, and therefore are stuck in a too-small apartment that is all they can afford. You bear no responsibility to their poor planning. If they bring it up again, just tell them "no". Also make sure Karen knows your brother won't be inheriting your house should something happen to you. (Nor will your parents, who would let Karen move in.) She sounds a right nutter.

Thatkamloopsguy
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think at this point you need to use a phrase I have always found useful for people like this. Go fu ck yourself.

Jill Bussey
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who "forced" them to have four children? Was it OP? No. There's is no obligation on OP to do anything for them and I would be changing the locks on OPs house so fast it would make "Karen's" head spin.

Carole G.
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA! What an astonishingly ridiculous idea. SIL wants to get a feel for the house, how very presumptuous. My goodness, you work hard, achieve home ownership & they expect you to toss it over to them? Entitlement abounds. I'd stay clear of the whole family.

Ron Baza
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“My family's response has been mixed. Some understand my perspective and respect my decision, but others believe I'm being selfish and unsupportive of my brother and his children. They argue that I should be more willing to help family in need, regardless of personal sacrifices.” Good point. Those people can sell their own homes, live on the streets, and hand all their money to the brother. We all have to make sacrifices!

Lost Penny
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"You should downsize & get a roommate! At the least, I mean..." "Yes, you're right. I've been thinking the same lately. I think I will get a cat... He can have his own room, I'll invest in a couple of cat towers... It'll be awesome! What a grand idea, you're a genius, Karen!" Then sit down, grab your popcorn, and enjoy the meltdown.

Wai Keet
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this in the USA and are they Trump supporters? I really think that only people who are morons and delusional fit into this category.

Mojayokok
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - The answer is simple - just tell your relatives that you’re so they’re willing to make a sacrifice and trade houses with your brother. I mean they’re so f*****g adamant about it, then THEY can switch houses with them.

María Hermida
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really can't decide whether OP belongs to one of those cultures where family has a say even on when you can poo and he has been brainwashed into thinking he has to listen to everything his family says, or his family are a delusional bunch of entitled a******s who think they deserve everything just because. Either way, Christmas is a very timely moment to remind people of the magic power of NO. "No" is a whole sentence. Just no. Because no. No guilt. No explanations. Do you want a bigger house? Buy one. You can't afford it? Not my problem. You've too many children and too little space? Since when are your bad decisions in life my problem?

MoniMoni
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Justin Sandberg, please correct your article. The studies you referenced in your article were regarding differentiation between Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), NOT Bipolar Disorder (BD). While the abbreviations can be understandably confusing, if you're going to provide mental health information in your articles, its your responsibility to ensure you're not spreading misinformation about an already highly stigmatized diagnosis. Thank you.

AspieGirl88
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh, the family are rallying round & saying your brothers family needs help?? Well, then perhaps THEY can offer up THEIR homes!! The sheer audacity & entitlement of some people, SMH. 🤨🤦‍♀️

Richard Michael
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BS story. OP admits to satire. Do better Board Panda. This is ridiculous.

AMaureen Dance
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Regardless of personal sacrifice"? I'm all for family making reasonable sacrifices for each other. Your sitter suddenly took ill, and you need someone for a week? I can handle that. Your car died, and you need a lift to work for a few days? As long as it doesn't take me too far out of my way. Your rental apartment is too small for all the kids you chose to have, and you'd like the big house that I bought? ARE YOU INSANE???

Eric Lafleur
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are insanely out of touch. If they are struggling with money AND living space, they need to do two things: 1- both of them need to work/get better jobs. 2- they need to stop f.. like rabbits. They are the A-H for even thinking they are entitled to your house.

Lizzie Tudor
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Having children is a choice. Your brother and his partner made an active choice not to use contraception. This is on them 100%. In addition, your SIL is manipulative and controlling, don't let her do that to you. If your parents are that bothered, they can open their home for them, instead. They'll be having another kid in 18 months, so they won't have learned their lesson, guarantee it. Buy them condoms.

Reta Murphy
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So you pay the mortgage on your home, they pay rent. Rent is probably as much if not more than your mortgage. They have already proved they are not financially stable. You will end up paying your mortgage plus your rent. NTA will be if you fall for Golden Boy's antics. Tell your mom and dad they can switch with them.

Larry Conatser
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would not trade with them. They need to get up and help themselves to better their living arrangements. You are NTA

Rusty Lewis
Community Member
7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What planet are these people on? NO is a complete sentence and requires no justification or excuse. SIL is a special kind of entitled b***h if she thinks she can walk into SOMEONE ELSE'S HOUSE and tell them how to live or where to live. This screams "India/Southwest Asia to me, since half the family thinks OP should give up something he worked hard for to someone who needs to close their legs for a while. This would be a non-starter from the jump in most Western cultures. OP should meet SIL at the front door next time and tell her to turn her entitled a** around and go back home, because this is not happening. The only thing I would even consider paying for is a tubal ligation for SIL or a vasectomy for bro. And I would tell any family member who told me to trade my house to them that maybe THEY should consider trading THEIR house. See how quickly they step off when you say that!

DustBunny
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your relatives can chip in and buy them a house—and some birth control—if they’re so concerned. First, this is insane and no reasonable person would even consider it. Two, you know if they can’t get out of a financial hole now they can’t afford the house—they’ll lose it to foreclosure or unpaid taxes or just lack of maintenance.

Inmate 24601
Community Member
8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Restraining order. They're harassing you. Karen inviting herself to your space and walking in uninvited is breaking and entering. File a police report against her. Don't let your "family" pressure you into giving up what you have just because your brother can't keep his d**k in his pants and Karen can't keep her legs closed. You are under no obligation to do anything or help in any way. If they can't respect that, like I said, restraining order. And call the police if they keep contacting you after it's been served.

Keith Lancaster
Community Member
8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If your brother and his wife are so hard up then maybe they should have stopped at two children? I think it's time to block this woman from your social media etc.

Sophi-ish
Community Member
9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

why don't the op's other siblings/parents trade their houses with karen?

Fight Hypocrites
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man, I really messed up. I have two childless siblings. Both of them own homes that have full basements; mine does not. One of those houses is probably worth twice what mine is, the other one three times--one may not be as big on the ground floor as mine, the other might be a little bigger, but it's not just the sq footage. They're both in better locations. Still, the kids would have loved that. Why didn't I think of this?!?

Miranda Williams
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I had 4 kids, we hit hard times, did a major career change and went back to school. My brother was SUPER kind to let us stay in his 600 sq ft one bedroom condo. We were so thankful and made it work as well as took care of his business and property to the extent of our ability. Meanwhile, my childless sister and her husband purchased a 5 bedroom house. I was happy for her and it was beautiful. Sure, I was a little jealous because we were so cramped, but I would NEVER EVER dream of switching her, let alone actually saying out loud. What in the world? Even now, we have 6 kids. We're doing well, but she still has a bigger house than me. Not a big deal. I'm happy now to have a roof over our heads that we own and it fits us! Some people....

alloutbikes@yahoo.com
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not only the mortgage payment, property taxes, insurance, larger electricity bills, possibly a longer commute which may increase car insurance premiums, different schools for the 4 children. Maybe no more children and some budgeting classes would help them to become home owners instead of simply taking one.

Rainbow Goddess
Community Member
11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There were multiple updates to this. The situation went on and on and on. At one point, his brother showed up at his doorstep with his entire family, expecting to move in. Then the brother and wife and kids moved into a camper on the OP's property to wait until OP moved out.

Dawnieangel76
Community Member
12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. If his brother & SIL can't afford a bigger house, they should stop having more kids. Birth control is cheaper than a mortgage.

Chihuahua Mama
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So they chose to have FOUR kids, while not having enough space and money for them, and now someone else has to be held responsible for THEIR choices?! I really hope this isn't real because the level of entitlement is just too much for me to comprehend

Kathrin
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how in the world does someone get this idea in the first place? if they are struggeling with space and money, they should not get that many kids.... totally NTA

P.L. Packer
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WTH??? OP managed to buy his own house while "big brother" managed to go into debt apparently and have 4 children. It's not OP's responsibility to clean up after brother and SIL. I would change every lock on my house, tell the Karen she can use her space saving, money saving tips on her own family and tell everyone else if they want brother in a bigger place, then THEY can help finance it. This family seems to have no boundaries at all.

Seadog
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On another note. I've known people very similar to this. Not necessarily demanding to trade homes but they'll do all kinds of things to take one when a family member dies. I've seen some manage to somehow get their names added to the deed even though the home was never theirs and the owner never agreed to have them added to the deed. Where I live this takes a lawyer and yet it still happens. A word of advice, if you have someone you want to have your house or car when you're gone and you can trust them, have their name added to the deed before it's too late. It automatically becomes theirs because they're already an owner and there's not a thing anyone can do about it. As for relatives such as I've mentioned and like the ones in the story, watch your credit score, deeds and titles closely. People like that will stop at nothing even if it means using your property as collateral on a loan they have no intention of paying back or taking out credit cards in your name.

Jude Laskowski
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Stop listening to these cr*zy people who tell you to give up the house you worked so hard for. Your brother and his wife need birth control; now you know what to give them for Christmas and birthdays. Change your locks and do not give a key to anyone!

Jaybird3939
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They won't take care of your house. They'll insist you take care of every bit of damage THEY do to the home. 4 kids are rough on a house! As someone else said, those demanding you do the exchange, should give up their own living arrangements and accommodate your brother & wife, who don't seem to understand the things that will change when they take over your home. They need a major reality check, especially SIL.

Stay Off My Lawn
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The unmitigated audacity!!! They should have thought about how they were going to house their children before they started having children.

LayDiva in the Zone
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The nerve of people never ceases to amaze me. I'd have laughed in their faces. I'd tell my brother to stop his wife from begging because I'm not moving. Only a true simp would even consider something so stupid. Tell them that they have 4 kids, not you, so they have to find housing where it's available, and you aren't considering their stupid idea. No one does that!

Suzie
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd have told them it's not my responsibility to house children they obviously couldn't afford and walked away laughing at their audacity. Then I'd be changing the locks if any family members have a key and set up a security system.

JK
Community Member
1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

FYI- check Reddit and his comments, OP's own words "I enjoy coming up with these fantasy stories you should read the update" - OP literally makes these posts up for karma points, total fiction Link here https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/s/hYilPXgk6B (hes a 30 something Scottish guy with a thing for anime https://www.reddit.com/u/Nervous_Ad5411/s/5ktrS3iLdq) *edit for typo!

Natalia
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is it even a question? Either this is bait or OP has been brainwashed by his bat-s**t family!

John
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I hear about family chime in about how family should help family, I always want to say "thankful for volunteering your own help". It's quite easy for others to be generous with other people stuff but never their own.

Mike Loux
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"So, you're buying my house, then (at current market value, natch)? No? Well, there's your answer."

Spittnimage
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why stop with just the house? Demand he buy an SUV or van for them to haul all those kids around. Pay the utilities because we know they can't afford them for a big house. Tell family you did not get that woman pregnant, therefore housing them isn't your responsibility.

Cassie
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If OP is paying a mortgage, it's probably more than they are paying in rent. Do they expect to not have to pay to live in the house? If they did, they could just go buy their own house or rent a bigger house. The ask doesn't make sense unless they expect a house for free while sticking OP with a payment every month and that's even more ridiculous than just trading spaces.

Carla B
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The writers for Bored Panda should do their research more throughly. It didn't take me long to find a similar post by the same person saying that it was a satirical story and he would continue with a part 2. It is all made up.

PeakyBlinder
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This cannot be true, nobody can be stupid enough to seriously consider this. If they cant afford it they shouldnt have for children. I dont know why OP Puts up with this s**t, Listen to this bs and lets the crazy woman in his house

Mad McQueen
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We live in apt. But let's have 4 kids. Let's not try to get better jobs to make security for ourselfs. Let's bombard the brother with a house he owns to just give it to us. And let's grind in all the stuff we want and sprinkle it with how bad it is for us. Maybe they can ask another family member to give them a house instead.

K Miller
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The entitlement to just expect someone to be ok with giving up their house is just wild. Also if they're struggling financially then why are they growing their family?

Kyle Morganstern
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BPD is Borderline Personality Disorder, NOT Bipolar Disorder. You would think the TWO co-authors would fact check their work.

Sandra Morison
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA.....both of them are responsible for their own life NOT YOU. ENJOY YOUR HOME .

Chrissie Anit
Community Member
1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It says in the reddit comments that OP admitted that this was a satirical piece of writing. So, fake af. Do your research, Justin!

Brainmas
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is insane right? You are not responsible for other people's poor life choices. If you are struggling, don't have 4 kids and then complain that their life is hard. You did that to them, that is your problem. Offer to fund a vasectomy.

Margrete Sonnenberg
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This guy has multiple different aita posts the differ. One post he has gf than the next its a wife, he also made a troll post about if he's an a*s for not buying his pet rock a condo. Also this story seems like the rip of a certain another user post from the entitled people subreddit talking about his entitled brother, wife, their 3 kids and parents. They wanted him do same thing.

Queenie G
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. If your brother and sister in law don't have the space, quit having babies! This whole thing is crazy, this is your house, not your families! I don't understand the mentality of some people.

C.O. Shea
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He ain't heavy, he's my deadbeat brother... mummy & daddums need to trade houses with their progeny. Derp!

V Noe
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your home is your home. If your brother (sister-in-law) wants a better place to raise their family, he (she) needs to find a better income. Meanwhile, 1. all locks on the home should be changed immediately, and no spare keys given to any family member. 2. block Karen on all media platforms and your phone. 3. tell the parents and brother you have made a decision, you will not give up your home, and you will not discuss it further. if they attempt to argue, walk away or hang up. 4. inform all other family members who harass you that the discussion is closed and any attempt to continue it will result in no contact for the foreseeable future.

Ivana Bašić
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DC
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Does your SIL have a key to your house? How else could she come inside without you knowing? Anyway, either she returns the keys to your house, or you should change locks. If she's intrusive enough to just show up there, without invitation, without telling you and all that, she - and your brother along - will not stop where she's now, but increase her intrudity, increase any and every sort of pressure she's applying to you. This has a ring to it that makes me expect your brother to, pretty much, be a doormat that acts on your SIL's command. Help him get divorved, eventually! Support him then, take in everyone of them - but SIL, and only if, when and because they're seperating themselves from her. And, your house is your house. You didn't wake up and, surprisingly, found yourself having a house, did you?

Fun Fan
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Change the locks, and cut those psychos out from your life!

Alyssa Phillips
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sure! I'll charge you my mortgage+my new rent for apartment+200$ (for repairs). First+last month's rent upfront. I'll waive a deposit since you're family. 🫠

Rocco MZ
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know you're not the ahole, you just needed validation.

WonderWoman
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell your brother and sil to downsize the family, give away one or two of the children and see how they react! OP owns a house and he is being pressured to give it to his irresponsible brother and sil? That is insane and to heck with family who went along with that. NO family is better than THAT family.

Adam Belaire
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope OP installs cameras and put it in writing that he will never agree to swap houses so they can't make up a false "contract" and say that OP said he'll swap houses.

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