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Woman Ruined Her Cheating Ex’s Life A Year Later With “The Most Cruel And Vindictive Revenge”
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Woman Ruined Her Cheating Ex’s Life A Year Later With “The Most Cruel And Vindictive Revenge”

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Regardless of your stance on relationships, the vast majority of people would probably agree that infidelity is not something to be celebrated. It’s a breach of trust, which often leaves one person feeling miserable. So it perhaps shouldn’t be surprising that the victim of cheating might harbor ill will for years afterwards and could even consider getting even.

A man shared his self-inflicted tale of woe, detailing how his ex, who he cheated on, got revenge on him years later and ended his current relationship. We reached out to the man in the story for comment via private message and will update the article when he gets back to us.

Cheating tends to kill relationships and leaves people with trust issues for years

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One man shared how the woman he cheated on ended up ruining his life with some well-planned revenge

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Infidelity is one of those nearly unforgivable issues

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Cheating is a notoriously touchy subject. There is some evidence that, historically, it has been even more regulated then the often lambasted premarital sex. While there are alternatives to monogamy, most people see it as the “standard” form of a relationship. Even folks who are fine to broaden their horizons admit that cheating is as much about the physical act as it is a breach of trust.

So it might then be a bit surprising to learn that researchers believe that infidelity is actually a lot more common than most people would like to admit. Different studies have non-uniform findings, ranging from a whole third of the population, to just 12% of men and 7% of women, but that is still a relatively high number. It’s important to remember that measuring infidelity is pretty hard, as most people would never admit to it, even in private with a researcher. So the real number might be higher than studies indicate.

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Just the fact that cheating is difficult to measure already reveals how most people feel about it. There are, of course, some exceptions. A person cheating on an abusive partner or a partner who is already cheating on them, for example. But even in these cases, most folks would agree that it’s best to end the relationship first anyway. In rare cases, this can cause the couple to actually make up and work it out, but it’s not a surefire solution.

Being cheated on has lingering mental effects

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This is because infidelity absolutely does affect the victim. There are a lot of factors at play, but the most common result for the victim is lasting trust issues. This actually can make it harder for a person to maintain and pursue other relationships, which can cause a negative relational spiral. After all, human relationships are key in maintaining mental health, so if a person starts to think that they can’t trust anyone, they close up and limit themselves.

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People who have been cheated on have reported a whole host of symptoms, from depression to a lack of self-confidence. Beyond general mental issues, it can cause a decline in life-satisfaction, as long term relationships are characterized by comfort with each other. Being alone again after a betrayal is often hard to deal with.

However, one study found that one way to help prevent these issues was to take action. For example, if your spouse has cheated on you, being the one to initiate the divorce is correlated to fewer reports of depression compared to people who remained passive. This would suggest that “doing something about it” isn’t just plain, old vengeance, but an actual effective psychological coping mechanism. Cutting ties on your own terms is one way to take back this part of your life.

This man doesn’t have any options but to think about what he did

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This leads us to “Annie’s” actions that seem like they are straight out of Gone Girl. Her revenge was, ultimately quite cruel, perhaps even excessive, given that she is separating a newborn from a father. However, at the same time, she was the victim of his infidelity, no two ways around it.

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It is quite rare that we get the revenge story from the victim’s perspective. Most people in this situation would probably want to put the entire situation behind them. As the man himself said, he has lost friends and even a job over this situation. Being caught “again” has probably thrown his entire life into the garbage.

The man gave some more details

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But many readers were hardly sympathetic

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What do you think about Annie's planned revenge on her ex?
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Deborah B
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He lied to his wife/baby-mama to go to his ex's house the same day his baby was born. "Hey thanks, drop the key chain in the post" is what he had to say, but he didn't. He tried to get back with her when he was with his current gf/wife. He admits he would have had sex with the ex if she'd let him. He has the gall to claim he's innocent. He's still a cheater, just maybe not that particular time. If you believe him. Which even his mama does not.

Rebel Peewee
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally after. Your first child was just born but you just gotta go get that keychain you've lived without for months...from your ex's...and you hang out for 45 mins.

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Darthest Starfish
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They all suck. He cheated. "Jess" knew he was in a long term serious relationship and still did it. But, if true, Annie's is on another almost psychotic level. But I also think he may have actually slept with Annie anyway and is fully lying. Either way everyone in this situation is wrong in some way or form in the end.

Sunny Day
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP needs to loosen his belt so he gets some blood flow above the waist.

setsuriseikou
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude. You'd have done Annie back then. You literally admitted it. You think Jess is insecure about Annie? No, hon. Jess's not "being insecure". Jess simply knows. You know, for a lot of people cheating doesn't start with sex. Wanting and being ready to have sex is already cheating. See? Your reasoning of "I didn't do her, so I did nothing wrong" is bovine excrements. You say everyone is "assuming" the worst? They aren't. "The worst" has actually happened, oh yes it did. And your biggest problem is not admitting that.

Littlemiss
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the comments on how evil the ex is say a lot. He admits that he held her tightly and would have tried his chance if he got it. Who's to say he didn't set it up so he didn't have to be a daddy? I had an ex similar to him, he cheated.

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TribbleThinking
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You could have had all that brainpower rooting for you through life, but ditched it for something that was willing to be a homewrecker and only had the "fall pregnant" trick up her sleeve to try to keep you. You didn't even have the decency to break up with "high maintenance" if that was too much work.

Sara Frazer
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol. Gotta love how in one response he's defending himself against the "once a cheater, always a cheater" accusation, then shortly after says that if she had offered to sleep with him he would've 🙄 with his newborn at the hospital, too... I've been cheated on by my last two partners. It's such a horrible soul-destroying feeling, like you're not good enough to someone you were only kind and devoted to 😔 makes you feel worthless

Gen X Feral
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So he's upset and wants sympathy because he's being accused of something he didn't do, but would have if given the chance? What a waste of skin he is.

Ms.GB
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just read the story but I don't even believe him..

Mandi Johnson
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He literally says that he would have slept with Annie if she would have offered. The only thing that prevented him cheating was opportunity. Annie did Jess a favor!

Virgil Blue
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I smell a rat. I smell a rat who actually slept with his ex and now tries to convince everyone it was just a hug. Sorry dude, you cheated in your ex and kept trying to get her to take you back while your side piece fell pregnant. In other words he was still having sex with her. At least that's how it reads to me.

Id row
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I know what I did was horrible, but I don't deserve this." Sorry, man, karma is a b*tch.

Judy Stott
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP: "I have no excuse." Also OP: "The short version is that Annie was very high maintenance and Jess isn't." Sounds like an excuse to me.

FluffyDreg
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone asked and he gave his reasoning. That's not an excuse. An excuse isn't the same thing as saying what your logic is, it's something to say to get out of blame. He, as he should, owned up to being absolutely horrible; and didn't even give his reason, untill directly asked. You sound like the teacher who asks why a student is late, then chastises them when they say that the buss was late.

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Cathy
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And this people, is why you do *not* withhold information. Even when it could upset your so. Because now even a simple Keychain is more important than the truth.

Natasha Clark
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL!! Annie are you ok?? Obviously not cause what she did was perfectly savage. 😄

Spittnimage
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I've only cheated once and that was with the mother of my child". Sounded a bit sanctimonious when he said that like Jess is the Madonna.

Scott Rackley
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This dude is dumb as a sack of hammers. I mean like a graduate from the Institute for Advanced Stupid Studies.

Ryan-James O'Driscoll
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Any small amount of pity I might have had for him evaporated when he admitted that he would have got with his ex had it been offered. There was never any question of him being the victim in all of this, he's not. But that stripped away any goodwill, benefit of the doubt, whatever you want to call it, that might have made any difference. He's a hard d**k with the morals thereof, attached to a human shaped mass. Nothing more.

JammaCoast2Coast
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love AITA posts when the OP only wants to hear from others that agree with them, otherwise they continue to fight their POV to make everyone see that they aren't so bad.

Sue
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's called the Boy Who Cried Wolf. You cheated & lied before, so why should they believe you now? I'm not sure I do even now or if it's for the benefit of Jessica to take you back. And Jessica knew you cheated on Annie with her, so she already knew you were a cheater & a liar. Serves both of you right.

Mjskywalk
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I felt a little bad for him until I read his comment that he would have f-ed her if she offered on his way back to the hospital. So yes, he deserves what he got.

Damned_Cat
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP says that Annie destroyed the life of a newborn baby. Yeah, like that kid wants to grow up with a father that cheats on his mother left and right. Which. He. Will.

Pixie T
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was kinda feeling a little sympathy for OP purely because of the innocent child being kept from his father. But when he said he would have had sex with Annie had she offered then that was it. Gf just given birth and you're hoping to screw your ex. You are a MASSIVE Ar$e hole!

April Roush
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Excellent and professional investigative services. I hired Hackerspytech @ Gmail com for a very private and difficult matter of hacking my ex husband's phone and he far exceeded my expectations. He helped me get some info such as WhatsApp, Facebook, text messages, call logs and even phone conversations that I needed for proof of his secretive affair. The first time we spoke, we had a very long phone consultation in which he gave me all my options that he could think of to resolve my case, and he even recommended I try other options before hiring him, which shows that he is honest. I decided to hire him and I am glad I did. He is a fantastic investigator and a great person; to all loyal partners out there if you have a dishonest partner don't hesitate to send him a mail on Hackerspytech @ Gmail com

dandylilah
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You didn't sleep with Annie BUT you would have, if she allowed it. You deserve this. Case closed.

Archanae
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The satisfaction I feel after reading this story, geez! You deserve every second of the hell you created for yourself, dude. And I hope 'Jess', who knew you weren't single but in a serious, committed relationship, suffers also, bc women's code? Solidarity? The woman you cheated on your gf with knows what kind of dude you are, and it's just karma coming to bite you in a*s. Again, you deserve every second of the pain you're feeling, imho. Your son was born out of infidelity, unfortunately this innocent soul is marked darkly by the universe's stamp already. I hope he'll be ok and happy in life. Move on OP, start fresh and NEVER cheat again. Basically, break up if needed, don't cheat.

Monica G
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He deceived his girlfiend and is justifying this by her being "high maintenance". I see hum as an entitled coward.

The_Nicest_Misanthrope
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He said in the comments that if Annie had offered him sex, he would've taken it. And yet he has the audacity to try the 'poor me' angle. Loser.

Loreta
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow Annie! Epic revenge. Feel awful for the baby. Jess also needs to grow up and do what's best for baby and let dad be involved. That's also another level of cruelty.

Victoria
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I lost whatever sympathy I had for OP when he said he'd have had sex with Annie if she was down for it, right after the birth of the child. The only innocent here is that baby. Plus Annie planned this. Why couldn't she mail that keychain?

Leigh Kinnaird
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because it probably doesn't exist. He just went by her house and chanced his arm. That's why he didn't tell anyone he was going.

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Momma Jess
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is no excuse for cheating, period, none whatsoever. If this is real though the OPs ex deserves whatever karma comes her way. Two wrongs don't make a right. She essentially used a child as a weapon, and I, a childless individual even, consider that WORSE than cheating. She needs some serious therapy. If I knew someone that did that I would drop them in an instant. I'd rather be friends with a cheater than someone that could do something that awful and disgusting. The best revenge against someone is living your life well and being happy

Rocky
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think society needs to rethink this old age thinking of "two wrongs don't make a right". Because, I seriously don't believe that's true anymore. There is so little accountability and shame these days because of s**t like that. If people knew the possible fall out of being a s****y human, I believe they wouldn't want to act as s****y as they do. And.. I would NEVER be friends with a cheater. That person always oozing disgust and distrust. F that. The one pulling the revenge is smart and transparent. Those people, you want around.

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nana theater
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have been cheated on and I know how much that hurts. But she decided to ruthlessly take away a child's father. And people who comment are "happy for her"? Really? Sorry, but anyone who sides with Annie here is a heartless twat.

TribbleThinking
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't worry, the new mother with the readily accessible reproductive part will probably thaw once economic pressures begin to make themselves known. She hasn't exactly had a track record of taking the high road when tempted. In this age of DNA and visitation rights, it would be highly unusual for the child to be declared fatherless if the father does not wish it so.

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BlueFire
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two thoughts: 1. Play stupid games - win stupid prizes 2. Karma

brittany
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

he should have had his mom go and pick up the key chain, assuming his mother was on good terms with the dad when he was alive, it would have been important to her to have something from her husband that her son could have back.

Craig Reynolds
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait, what? Quote: "Being brutally honest, if she had put that on the table I would probably have gone for it." Why is Op crying for sympathy on Reddit when he admits he would have slept with her again if she offered? He sounds like a serial cheater and a serial liar.

Beth Gael
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The ONLY reason I'd vote "excessive" is that no one thought of the baby. This poor kid is going to grow up in a home not of their own making. For future reference, people who cheat. It's not the sex as much as it is the LIES. If you want to prove you're trustworthy, never lie to the person whose trust you want. Not even once. Not by omission. Not if it's "uncomfortable", not if it's "to protect them". When you lie about something, you give it a meaning it didn't need to have. By lying about picking up the keychain, the OP imbued it with meaning he didn't intend. Something something cry wolf.

Bonkers & Curious Panda
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ho Lee Schitt. I'm impressed by Annie, but I do feel sorry for the situation in which the baby will have to grow up in.

AMaureen Dance
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP and Annie didn't seem to have compatible lifestyles. it seems the smart, adult thing would be to say, "Honey, I don't think this is working. I still care about you, but I'm sure deep down, you agree on some level, and we'll both be happier in more fitting relationships." They part as friends, he meets Jess, who isn't getting a cheater for a babydaddy, and everybody's happy. Some day, Annie finds his keychain, and calls him up, "Oh I found your keychain. It's not taking up much space, so come get it whenever, or I can mail it to you. And congrats on your baby boy, btw."

Robert Horáček
Community Member
1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honest question - how many times shall the cheater be punished? Annie broke up with him, which is perfectly understandable reaction and he deserved that. But that next thing she did? I'd consider that justifiable only in case he screwed her ona last time within that...closure...

Coffeemama05
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You were with someone for 8 years and you never proposed? Not saying everyone has to get married but that’s usually the norm and it would have been a red flag for me. But then you’re not happy and you think it’s ok to ruin an 8 years relationship by cheating. You get her pregnant and she had literally just given birth and you agree to meet your newly ex with I’m assuming security cameras or something behind the mother of your child’s back and you think because you’re really innocent this one time that everyone is going to believe you and you’re a great person? F you for doing that to Annie and everyone in your life. Jess is an idiot too for being with and having a child with someone that hurt someone else to be with her. You’re way too old to be doing high school drama bull$hit. Grow up. Stop doing things behind peoples backs. Stop being a snake. You made your bed. Sleep in it

Mrs Thaxton
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did anyone else notice he's mad she did it but also stated that had she actually offered to sleep with him he would have took the chance, like you got what you deserved. And the fact you said had she'd offered you'd taken that offer. How are you mad right now ? You would have cheated if given the chance anyways.

millac
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The comment that he would have cheated with Annie "had that been on the table" seals the deal for me that he deserved this. Jess may hurt for a while, but she helped cheat and it's ultimately for the best for her and the kid not to have this guy in their lives all the time.

KatSaidWhat
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She has f****d with an innocent child's life here. That's a stretch too far, even for me.

Mh Brown
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whining that he "doesn't deserve" is pathetic. The 'pity' is that he still doesn't realise that abysmal actions have consequences. Selfish, immoral, self-pitying, pathetic character. Not that I'd want to get on the wrong side of Annie ....

Aelin Wildfire
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3 months ago

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Aelin Wildfire
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I love Jess and I stand by my relationship with her completely" and three comments later "I totally would have cheated if Annie had offered me sex." Yeah, sure, Jess should TOTALLY believe him... NOT!

Janelle Collard
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Annie played the long game + won. :) Jess was always jealous of Annie + Annie capitalized on it. OP, at ANY time, could've told Annie he'd like to stay home more, etc., but DIDN'T. Instead -he cheated. Sorry, dude, karma done bit your a**.

Guess Undheit
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why he doesn't cut his losses and cut ties. Pack up and leave, start somewhere else, and DON'T get into relationships for a few years. Get therapy instead.

Rabbit Of ill Portent(she/her)
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Annie are you okay? So Annie are you okay? Are you okay Annie? Yes. Annie is indeed okay 😂

LiSa Dee
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3 months ago

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Penny Fan
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dayum! That's cold. Not sure I could do it myself but I applaud the sentiment

René Sauer
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would be more sympathetic to annie if this had happened like a month or so after the cheating. But after almost a year? Just move on with your life, girl. There was no reason to do this. Not that I am a fan of the other two either.

GenericPanda09
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3 months ago

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Schnitzel
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the fence with this one..But had it been me, if I was Annie, I would have found trust in Universe to do its thing and then I would have spent a serious amount of money spa-ing! I would be glowing them away.

Susan Bell
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jess should have rejected you when you were living with Annie. Annie should have let go of the past. You should not have sex again until you can treat women like human beings instead of sex objects.

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They all want you to go, if you aren't on the birth certificate, just go and start over somewhere else.

WonderWoman
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. And I find it hard to believe that the hospital would ban him from the room as he had been there for the birth.

Leigh Kinnaird
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's in the UK. If the mother says no to any visitor, they're not allowed in. The mother and the baby are the patients.

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Aroace tiger (she/they/he)
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would gind this funny but it fùcked over a newborns relationship with their father.

Binky Melnik
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Annie ate with this revenge” has ten thousand upvotes so obviously, people figured out what the typo was to have been. Help me, please, and tell me what she meant to type? I can’t work it out for myself and I’m feeling like a dope. Thanks. (Oh, and I’m on the baby’s side; I feel awful for him that he was born into this three-ring circus. 😞)

Rocky
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I felt bad for him.. for a second. But then saw how insecure that AP was and well they both suck and deserve a messy life. AP is pathetic acting the way she did, with being so insecure. (Constant need for validation ). Girls, boys, women, and men, grow some self-respect if you want respect. As for the kid, gonna be fine. Enough. They have the resources. If there's any verbal or emotional abuse, they were never good people.

tori Ohno
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No judge will go along with this. He's the father, he legally has rights. Don't get me wrong, he's a sh#t person, and I hope what he's going through hurts, he deserves it. But he gets split custody with the mother. The judge will see right through this jealous vengeance game. His cheating doesn't make him a bad father, just a bad partner. And the ladies had better be careful, they're walking with one leg on the illegal side of this, and he sounds like the nasty type to get a lawyer.

Leigh Kinnaird
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Things are quite different in the UK, where the OP is. In order for the father to be named on the birth certificate if the couple aren't married, he has to be physically present. The mother can register the birth on her own on the way home from hospital even. Or he has to go to court, a lengthy and expensive process for a guy who lost his job. 50/50 custody isn't a given, either. The family court doesn't care about the adults, but what's in the best interest of the child.

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Gavin Johnson
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who is the winner here? Annie got hurt by him. Jess got hurt by Annie. He hurt both of them. Worst of all a complete innocent got screwed over by the adults on all sides. Revenge may be sweet for Annie but that satisfaction will fade and the child concerned may never get the time with their Dad back. What adults want or desire is all worth nothing if children are being negatively impacted upon.

Winnie the Moo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor kid; life is already f****d and it just begun… Annie went way too far!

Janice
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't agree with the ex and what she did, but I do see some logic. He cheated on Jess with Annie. If it was anyone but Annie, I would say OP is right, but this is the actual woman who broke up her marriage, Jess just did what Annie did, with the exception of setting him up and lying. OP sounds like a stalker and an absolute AH. Hundreds of calls? He had people harass her? He doesn't take responsibility for what he did. He said the words, but it sounds memorized or copied. Everything else he wrote pointed at the women. The three deserve each other.

Christopher Crockett
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3 months ago

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I'm just wondering if he got his key chain back. Other than that, I think he made a grave mistake, that his jilted ex stooped to his level and went full nuclear on him and his wife by destroying his family. What he did is unforgivable, but the jilted ex has destroyed a family to the point that a child may well be deprived of a father altogether. All three of the adult players here are @ssholes, plain and simple, but the jilted ex involved, even targeted an innocent child as part of her revenge. I think that's nothing short of reprehensible. She is a complete f3cking c\/nt for taking her anger out on a child. I think the man and his wife are @ssholes, but they were trying to move on. I hope the jilted ex feels that anger every single day, like an ember in her gut that never cools. I hope her anger one day consumes her from the inside out, for she deserves no less.

Nils Skirnir
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3 months ago

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For want of a keychain, a kingdom was lost. NB (and unpopular opinion) Awful lot of of hypocrisy here from the females, who’d be up in arms if roles were reversed

Deborah B
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He lied to his wife/baby-mama to go to his ex's house the same day his baby was born. "Hey thanks, drop the key chain in the post" is what he had to say, but he didn't. He tried to get back with her when he was with his current gf/wife. He admits he would have had sex with the ex if she'd let him. He has the gall to claim he's innocent. He's still a cheater, just maybe not that particular time. If you believe him. Which even his mama does not.

Rebel Peewee
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally after. Your first child was just born but you just gotta go get that keychain you've lived without for months...from your ex's...and you hang out for 45 mins.

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Darthest Starfish
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They all suck. He cheated. "Jess" knew he was in a long term serious relationship and still did it. But, if true, Annie's is on another almost psychotic level. But I also think he may have actually slept with Annie anyway and is fully lying. Either way everyone in this situation is wrong in some way or form in the end.

Sunny Day
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP needs to loosen his belt so he gets some blood flow above the waist.

setsuriseikou
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude. You'd have done Annie back then. You literally admitted it. You think Jess is insecure about Annie? No, hon. Jess's not "being insecure". Jess simply knows. You know, for a lot of people cheating doesn't start with sex. Wanting and being ready to have sex is already cheating. See? Your reasoning of "I didn't do her, so I did nothing wrong" is bovine excrements. You say everyone is "assuming" the worst? They aren't. "The worst" has actually happened, oh yes it did. And your biggest problem is not admitting that.

Littlemiss
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the comments on how evil the ex is say a lot. He admits that he held her tightly and would have tried his chance if he got it. Who's to say he didn't set it up so he didn't have to be a daddy? I had an ex similar to him, he cheated.

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TribbleThinking
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You could have had all that brainpower rooting for you through life, but ditched it for something that was willing to be a homewrecker and only had the "fall pregnant" trick up her sleeve to try to keep you. You didn't even have the decency to break up with "high maintenance" if that was too much work.

Sara Frazer
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol. Gotta love how in one response he's defending himself against the "once a cheater, always a cheater" accusation, then shortly after says that if she had offered to sleep with him he would've 🙄 with his newborn at the hospital, too... I've been cheated on by my last two partners. It's such a horrible soul-destroying feeling, like you're not good enough to someone you were only kind and devoted to 😔 makes you feel worthless

Gen X Feral
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So he's upset and wants sympathy because he's being accused of something he didn't do, but would have if given the chance? What a waste of skin he is.

Ms.GB
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just read the story but I don't even believe him..

Mandi Johnson
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He literally says that he would have slept with Annie if she would have offered. The only thing that prevented him cheating was opportunity. Annie did Jess a favor!

Virgil Blue
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I smell a rat. I smell a rat who actually slept with his ex and now tries to convince everyone it was just a hug. Sorry dude, you cheated in your ex and kept trying to get her to take you back while your side piece fell pregnant. In other words he was still having sex with her. At least that's how it reads to me.

Id row
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I know what I did was horrible, but I don't deserve this." Sorry, man, karma is a b*tch.

Judy Stott
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP: "I have no excuse." Also OP: "The short version is that Annie was very high maintenance and Jess isn't." Sounds like an excuse to me.

FluffyDreg
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone asked and he gave his reasoning. That's not an excuse. An excuse isn't the same thing as saying what your logic is, it's something to say to get out of blame. He, as he should, owned up to being absolutely horrible; and didn't even give his reason, untill directly asked. You sound like the teacher who asks why a student is late, then chastises them when they say that the buss was late.

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Cathy
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And this people, is why you do *not* withhold information. Even when it could upset your so. Because now even a simple Keychain is more important than the truth.

Natasha Clark
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL!! Annie are you ok?? Obviously not cause what she did was perfectly savage. 😄

Spittnimage
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I've only cheated once and that was with the mother of my child". Sounded a bit sanctimonious when he said that like Jess is the Madonna.

Scott Rackley
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This dude is dumb as a sack of hammers. I mean like a graduate from the Institute for Advanced Stupid Studies.

Ryan-James O'Driscoll
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Any small amount of pity I might have had for him evaporated when he admitted that he would have got with his ex had it been offered. There was never any question of him being the victim in all of this, he's not. But that stripped away any goodwill, benefit of the doubt, whatever you want to call it, that might have made any difference. He's a hard d**k with the morals thereof, attached to a human shaped mass. Nothing more.

JammaCoast2Coast
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love AITA posts when the OP only wants to hear from others that agree with them, otherwise they continue to fight their POV to make everyone see that they aren't so bad.

Sue
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's called the Boy Who Cried Wolf. You cheated & lied before, so why should they believe you now? I'm not sure I do even now or if it's for the benefit of Jessica to take you back. And Jessica knew you cheated on Annie with her, so she already knew you were a cheater & a liar. Serves both of you right.

Mjskywalk
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I felt a little bad for him until I read his comment that he would have f-ed her if she offered on his way back to the hospital. So yes, he deserves what he got.

Damned_Cat
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP says that Annie destroyed the life of a newborn baby. Yeah, like that kid wants to grow up with a father that cheats on his mother left and right. Which. He. Will.

Pixie T
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was kinda feeling a little sympathy for OP purely because of the innocent child being kept from his father. But when he said he would have had sex with Annie had she offered then that was it. Gf just given birth and you're hoping to screw your ex. You are a MASSIVE Ar$e hole!

April Roush
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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dandylilah
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You didn't sleep with Annie BUT you would have, if she allowed it. You deserve this. Case closed.

Archanae
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The satisfaction I feel after reading this story, geez! You deserve every second of the hell you created for yourself, dude. And I hope 'Jess', who knew you weren't single but in a serious, committed relationship, suffers also, bc women's code? Solidarity? The woman you cheated on your gf with knows what kind of dude you are, and it's just karma coming to bite you in a*s. Again, you deserve every second of the pain you're feeling, imho. Your son was born out of infidelity, unfortunately this innocent soul is marked darkly by the universe's stamp already. I hope he'll be ok and happy in life. Move on OP, start fresh and NEVER cheat again. Basically, break up if needed, don't cheat.

Monica G
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He deceived his girlfiend and is justifying this by her being "high maintenance". I see hum as an entitled coward.

The_Nicest_Misanthrope
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He said in the comments that if Annie had offered him sex, he would've taken it. And yet he has the audacity to try the 'poor me' angle. Loser.

Loreta
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow Annie! Epic revenge. Feel awful for the baby. Jess also needs to grow up and do what's best for baby and let dad be involved. That's also another level of cruelty.

Victoria
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I lost whatever sympathy I had for OP when he said he'd have had sex with Annie if she was down for it, right after the birth of the child. The only innocent here is that baby. Plus Annie planned this. Why couldn't she mail that keychain?

Leigh Kinnaird
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because it probably doesn't exist. He just went by her house and chanced his arm. That's why he didn't tell anyone he was going.

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Momma Jess
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is no excuse for cheating, period, none whatsoever. If this is real though the OPs ex deserves whatever karma comes her way. Two wrongs don't make a right. She essentially used a child as a weapon, and I, a childless individual even, consider that WORSE than cheating. She needs some serious therapy. If I knew someone that did that I would drop them in an instant. I'd rather be friends with a cheater than someone that could do something that awful and disgusting. The best revenge against someone is living your life well and being happy

Rocky
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think society needs to rethink this old age thinking of "two wrongs don't make a right". Because, I seriously don't believe that's true anymore. There is so little accountability and shame these days because of s**t like that. If people knew the possible fall out of being a s****y human, I believe they wouldn't want to act as s****y as they do. And.. I would NEVER be friends with a cheater. That person always oozing disgust and distrust. F that. The one pulling the revenge is smart and transparent. Those people, you want around.

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nana theater
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have been cheated on and I know how much that hurts. But she decided to ruthlessly take away a child's father. And people who comment are "happy for her"? Really? Sorry, but anyone who sides with Annie here is a heartless twat.

TribbleThinking
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't worry, the new mother with the readily accessible reproductive part will probably thaw once economic pressures begin to make themselves known. She hasn't exactly had a track record of taking the high road when tempted. In this age of DNA and visitation rights, it would be highly unusual for the child to be declared fatherless if the father does not wish it so.

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BlueFire
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two thoughts: 1. Play stupid games - win stupid prizes 2. Karma

brittany
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

he should have had his mom go and pick up the key chain, assuming his mother was on good terms with the dad when he was alive, it would have been important to her to have something from her husband that her son could have back.

Craig Reynolds
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait, what? Quote: "Being brutally honest, if she had put that on the table I would probably have gone for it." Why is Op crying for sympathy on Reddit when he admits he would have slept with her again if she offered? He sounds like a serial cheater and a serial liar.

Beth Gael
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The ONLY reason I'd vote "excessive" is that no one thought of the baby. This poor kid is going to grow up in a home not of their own making. For future reference, people who cheat. It's not the sex as much as it is the LIES. If you want to prove you're trustworthy, never lie to the person whose trust you want. Not even once. Not by omission. Not if it's "uncomfortable", not if it's "to protect them". When you lie about something, you give it a meaning it didn't need to have. By lying about picking up the keychain, the OP imbued it with meaning he didn't intend. Something something cry wolf.

Bonkers & Curious Panda
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ho Lee Schitt. I'm impressed by Annie, but I do feel sorry for the situation in which the baby will have to grow up in.

AMaureen Dance
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP and Annie didn't seem to have compatible lifestyles. it seems the smart, adult thing would be to say, "Honey, I don't think this is working. I still care about you, but I'm sure deep down, you agree on some level, and we'll both be happier in more fitting relationships." They part as friends, he meets Jess, who isn't getting a cheater for a babydaddy, and everybody's happy. Some day, Annie finds his keychain, and calls him up, "Oh I found your keychain. It's not taking up much space, so come get it whenever, or I can mail it to you. And congrats on your baby boy, btw."

Robert Horáček
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1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honest question - how many times shall the cheater be punished? Annie broke up with him, which is perfectly understandable reaction and he deserved that. But that next thing she did? I'd consider that justifiable only in case he screwed her ona last time within that...closure...

Coffeemama05
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You were with someone for 8 years and you never proposed? Not saying everyone has to get married but that’s usually the norm and it would have been a red flag for me. But then you’re not happy and you think it’s ok to ruin an 8 years relationship by cheating. You get her pregnant and she had literally just given birth and you agree to meet your newly ex with I’m assuming security cameras or something behind the mother of your child’s back and you think because you’re really innocent this one time that everyone is going to believe you and you’re a great person? F you for doing that to Annie and everyone in your life. Jess is an idiot too for being with and having a child with someone that hurt someone else to be with her. You’re way too old to be doing high school drama bull$hit. Grow up. Stop doing things behind peoples backs. Stop being a snake. You made your bed. Sleep in it

Mrs Thaxton
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did anyone else notice he's mad she did it but also stated that had she actually offered to sleep with him he would have took the chance, like you got what you deserved. And the fact you said had she'd offered you'd taken that offer. How are you mad right now ? You would have cheated if given the chance anyways.

millac
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The comment that he would have cheated with Annie "had that been on the table" seals the deal for me that he deserved this. Jess may hurt for a while, but she helped cheat and it's ultimately for the best for her and the kid not to have this guy in their lives all the time.

KatSaidWhat
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She has f****d with an innocent child's life here. That's a stretch too far, even for me.

Mh Brown
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whining that he "doesn't deserve" is pathetic. The 'pity' is that he still doesn't realise that abysmal actions have consequences. Selfish, immoral, self-pitying, pathetic character. Not that I'd want to get on the wrong side of Annie ....

Aelin Wildfire
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3 months ago

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Aelin Wildfire
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I love Jess and I stand by my relationship with her completely" and three comments later "I totally would have cheated if Annie had offered me sex." Yeah, sure, Jess should TOTALLY believe him... NOT!

Janelle Collard
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Annie played the long game + won. :) Jess was always jealous of Annie + Annie capitalized on it. OP, at ANY time, could've told Annie he'd like to stay home more, etc., but DIDN'T. Instead -he cheated. Sorry, dude, karma done bit your a**.

Guess Undheit
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why he doesn't cut his losses and cut ties. Pack up and leave, start somewhere else, and DON'T get into relationships for a few years. Get therapy instead.

Rabbit Of ill Portent(she/her)
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Annie are you okay? So Annie are you okay? Are you okay Annie? Yes. Annie is indeed okay 😂

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3 months ago

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Penny Fan
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dayum! That's cold. Not sure I could do it myself but I applaud the sentiment

René Sauer
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would be more sympathetic to annie if this had happened like a month or so after the cheating. But after almost a year? Just move on with your life, girl. There was no reason to do this. Not that I am a fan of the other two either.

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3 months ago

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Schnitzel
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the fence with this one..But had it been me, if I was Annie, I would have found trust in Universe to do its thing and then I would have spent a serious amount of money spa-ing! I would be glowing them away.

Susan Bell
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jess should have rejected you when you were living with Annie. Annie should have let go of the past. You should not have sex again until you can treat women like human beings instead of sex objects.

FreeTheUnicorn
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They all want you to go, if you aren't on the birth certificate, just go and start over somewhere else.

WonderWoman
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. And I find it hard to believe that the hospital would ban him from the room as he had been there for the birth.

Leigh Kinnaird
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's in the UK. If the mother says no to any visitor, they're not allowed in. The mother and the baby are the patients.

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Aroace tiger (she/they/he)
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would gind this funny but it fùcked over a newborns relationship with their father.

Binky Melnik
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Annie ate with this revenge” has ten thousand upvotes so obviously, people figured out what the typo was to have been. Help me, please, and tell me what she meant to type? I can’t work it out for myself and I’m feeling like a dope. Thanks. (Oh, and I’m on the baby’s side; I feel awful for him that he was born into this three-ring circus. 😞)

Rocky
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I felt bad for him.. for a second. But then saw how insecure that AP was and well they both suck and deserve a messy life. AP is pathetic acting the way she did, with being so insecure. (Constant need for validation ). Girls, boys, women, and men, grow some self-respect if you want respect. As for the kid, gonna be fine. Enough. They have the resources. If there's any verbal or emotional abuse, they were never good people.

tori Ohno
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No judge will go along with this. He's the father, he legally has rights. Don't get me wrong, he's a sh#t person, and I hope what he's going through hurts, he deserves it. But he gets split custody with the mother. The judge will see right through this jealous vengeance game. His cheating doesn't make him a bad father, just a bad partner. And the ladies had better be careful, they're walking with one leg on the illegal side of this, and he sounds like the nasty type to get a lawyer.

Leigh Kinnaird
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Things are quite different in the UK, where the OP is. In order for the father to be named on the birth certificate if the couple aren't married, he has to be physically present. The mother can register the birth on her own on the way home from hospital even. Or he has to go to court, a lengthy and expensive process for a guy who lost his job. 50/50 custody isn't a given, either. The family court doesn't care about the adults, but what's in the best interest of the child.

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Gavin Johnson
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who is the winner here? Annie got hurt by him. Jess got hurt by Annie. He hurt both of them. Worst of all a complete innocent got screwed over by the adults on all sides. Revenge may be sweet for Annie but that satisfaction will fade and the child concerned may never get the time with their Dad back. What adults want or desire is all worth nothing if children are being negatively impacted upon.

Winnie the Moo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor kid; life is already f****d and it just begun… Annie went way too far!

Janice
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't agree with the ex and what she did, but I do see some logic. He cheated on Jess with Annie. If it was anyone but Annie, I would say OP is right, but this is the actual woman who broke up her marriage, Jess just did what Annie did, with the exception of setting him up and lying. OP sounds like a stalker and an absolute AH. Hundreds of calls? He had people harass her? He doesn't take responsibility for what he did. He said the words, but it sounds memorized or copied. Everything else he wrote pointed at the women. The three deserve each other.

Christopher Crockett
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3 months ago

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I'm just wondering if he got his key chain back. Other than that, I think he made a grave mistake, that his jilted ex stooped to his level and went full nuclear on him and his wife by destroying his family. What he did is unforgivable, but the jilted ex has destroyed a family to the point that a child may well be deprived of a father altogether. All three of the adult players here are @ssholes, plain and simple, but the jilted ex involved, even targeted an innocent child as part of her revenge. I think that's nothing short of reprehensible. She is a complete f3cking c\/nt for taking her anger out on a child. I think the man and his wife are @ssholes, but they were trying to move on. I hope the jilted ex feels that anger every single day, like an ember in her gut that never cools. I hope her anger one day consumes her from the inside out, for she deserves no less.

Nils Skirnir
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3 months ago

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For want of a keychain, a kingdom was lost. NB (and unpopular opinion) Awful lot of of hypocrisy here from the females, who’d be up in arms if roles were reversed

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