As parents, people often have to navigate all sorts of tricky situations. What to do when the babysitter cancels at the last minute? How to handle work when your child is sick? What changing rooms to use when your little one is of the opposite sex?
The last situation was the pickle the dad in this story found himself in. A woman on Mumsnet recently told the community about how she noticed the father with his daughter at the pool and then saw them going towards the woman’s changing room, and the OP told them not to enter. Even though she was backed up by people at the pool, some believed that the woman was in the wrong to do so, which made her wonder if she was being unreasonable.
With children, even something as mundane as going to the pool can become an event
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After going to the pool, this dad was stopped from entering the woman’s changing room with his daughter
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Choosing the right changing room when you’re with kids can be tricky
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For better or worse, life with children is never dull; nor is it easy. Even something as seemingly mundane as a walk in the park might be no walk in the park, especially if the little one is in a mood.
That goes for going elsewhere, too, including the pool or other establishments that might require changing garments. While seeing a mom with a toddler boy in a woman’s changing room, for example, might not be surprising to people around them, the same situation would arguably be viewed very differently if she brought with her a teenager. So what should parents do if their child is not old enough to go on their own, but old enough to make some people uncomfortable?
Ideally, they should choose the family changing room option. However, that is not something that every pool has to offer. In many places, though, there are rules and regulations regarding the age of children allowed in certain changing rooms; in the OP’s case, for example, the pool seemingly didn’t allow kids over the age of eight to enter the changing rooms of the opposite sex.
In some establishments, the age limit can be as high as 12 years, as it was (as of 2017, at least) in the City of London. According to CBC, there was an attempt to change the said age limit to four, meaning that little ones over the age of three would have to go change on their own if they were there with a parent of the opposite sex. However, it didn’t take long for moms and dads to express their discontent, so the City of London Parks and Recreation Department reportedly stuck to the bylaw that noted that children 12 and younger can go into an opposite-sex changing room if accompanied by a parent, guardian, caregiver, or caretaker.
Clearly, there is no ‘one age fits all’ solution when it comes to such situations. Unsurprisingly, there is no one unanimous opinion regarding them, either, which is why some netizens sided with the OP, while others suggested she was indeed being unreasonable.
The woman shared more details with fellow netizens
Some people sided with the OP, saying that she was right to stop the man from entering the woman’s changing room
Others, however, shared a different opinion
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Its common for a child to go into the opposite sex's bathroom ect.. not so much parent. I cant think of any positive intentions here..
I have three daughters, i´d rather have them by themselves in the ladies room than in the men room.
Load More Replies...In this particular situation the only sensible choice was for the father and daughter to go back to their hotel room, which is what happened.
He could have taken her into the men's changing room. I don't know where you're from, but in most of Europe that would be the perfectly normal thing to do. I always went into the ladies' with my mum until I was about 5 or 6, and then into the men's on my own after that. It's entirely inappropriate for the man to go into the ladies', however.
Load More Replies...Disabled facilities are not reserved for people with disabilities. They are simply specially designed to accommodate people with special needs. That would have been a reasonable solution.
It probably would have worked, but the dad wasn't informed of it's existence and, had he tried to use it, it seems the OP would have kicked up just as much fuss. It's typical Mumsnet logic.
Load More Replies...This is a tricky one and I can see both sides of the argument. The thing is, problems like this can be solved by the hotel/spa/leisure centre themselves by doing away with gendered changing rooms. The leisure centre I go to for swimming and the gym has unisex changing areas with individual cubicles that anyone can use.
I don't see anything wrong with him changing her in the mens. He could've waited for a cubicle inside and as far there being naked men in there....she's a toddler! It's not awkward unless he makes it awkward. Women bring little boys into the ladies bathroom and changing rooms all the time.
Load More Replies...Am with OP here, kid wasn't supposed to be there, kid was disruptive to classes, asked to leave. They were staying in the hotel and should have just put those robes back on after a towel dry and change back in their room. OP's friend does not get to speak on behalf of all other women, some of whom may be absolutely distraught at a male just coming in while they are naked in a women's only changing room. He should realise his hypocrisy when saying he won't take his daughter into the men's room.
When I was a teen, we'd just finished swimming with a bunch of friends who were all girls and we were in the dressing room getting changed. In walked a man with a girl of about 3 years old, and started changing. Mind you, he had his back turned to us the entire time, and iirc he just put his pants on over his wet trunks, but I remember thinking why didn't he just take the girl into the men's dressing rooms? To this day, I still think about it sometimes, because while I'm quite positive the man didn't have any malicious intent, it was still very awkward for us teenage girls to have to be naked with this man right there (even if he wasn't looking), because I'm sure teenage boys would've felt way less uncomfortable having a 3 year old girl there. Why go into the women's room then? Because you feel seeing a bunch of penises will be harmful to the kid? I don't have the answer.
It's ridiculous. Women take their little sins to the ladies changing rooms all the time, you never see a mom taking her little son to change in the mens changing room so I don't see how this should be any different.
Load More Replies...In that situation I'd bring my daughter to the men's changing room, have her close her eyes walking in, and find a semi private place and hold a towel up while she quickly changed. This dude is just trying to cop a look in the women's locker room
An 8 yo child can get dressed herself... So send the child into the changing room and wait outside. A 6 yo could do too probably. And for younger, take them to YOUR changing room. Kids have no shame for bodies and do not associate nakedness with sex. Also there should always be single person stalls accesible not via a shared changing room imo.
This was a 4/5 year old kid. The 8 years old refers to the changing room policy. Given her behaviour (if we take OP at her word and, as it's on Mumsnet, it's likely massively exaggerated), sending her in alone isn't a solution. I do find it interesting how many women don't want a man in their changing rooms but think it's perfectly fine for a young girl to be taken into the men's changing rooms. Ultimately, the main issue is the hotel being presumably family friendly but having zero changing facilities dedicated to families, meaning this kind of situation is bound to happen more often than not.
Load More Replies...There are no two sides. Know why? DAD was the one who CHOSE to bring his daughter to the pool, and is responsible for her. The women who were in the changing rooms had no choice or warning here. A grown man doesn't get to walk into a room full of naked women unanounced and just screech "what about my kid?!" Dude, you chose to bring her here, you created the situation, it was YOUR JOB to think ahead of how to handle it or ask questions. And if you don't like the answer, choose not to bring the kid. You don't get to just do what you want because of the awkward situation YOU created. IT WASN'T CHILDREN'S TIME
It is not your problem where this guy takes the child- who should not have been there in the first place - to change. In fact it is not a problem at all since he had a room
Amen. All this fussing and fuming were unnecessary. The man had a room - take daughter up there to shower/bathe and change. I think he had more sinister goals in mind, at the least seeing some naughty bits. Hotel policy should be if you have a room, use it for changing.
Load More Replies...Its common for a child to go into the opposite sex's bathroom ect.. not so much parent. I cant think of any positive intentions here..
I have three daughters, i´d rather have them by themselves in the ladies room than in the men room.
Load More Replies...In this particular situation the only sensible choice was for the father and daughter to go back to their hotel room, which is what happened.
He could have taken her into the men's changing room. I don't know where you're from, but in most of Europe that would be the perfectly normal thing to do. I always went into the ladies' with my mum until I was about 5 or 6, and then into the men's on my own after that. It's entirely inappropriate for the man to go into the ladies', however.
Load More Replies...Disabled facilities are not reserved for people with disabilities. They are simply specially designed to accommodate people with special needs. That would have been a reasonable solution.
It probably would have worked, but the dad wasn't informed of it's existence and, had he tried to use it, it seems the OP would have kicked up just as much fuss. It's typical Mumsnet logic.
Load More Replies...This is a tricky one and I can see both sides of the argument. The thing is, problems like this can be solved by the hotel/spa/leisure centre themselves by doing away with gendered changing rooms. The leisure centre I go to for swimming and the gym has unisex changing areas with individual cubicles that anyone can use.
I don't see anything wrong with him changing her in the mens. He could've waited for a cubicle inside and as far there being naked men in there....she's a toddler! It's not awkward unless he makes it awkward. Women bring little boys into the ladies bathroom and changing rooms all the time.
Load More Replies...Am with OP here, kid wasn't supposed to be there, kid was disruptive to classes, asked to leave. They were staying in the hotel and should have just put those robes back on after a towel dry and change back in their room. OP's friend does not get to speak on behalf of all other women, some of whom may be absolutely distraught at a male just coming in while they are naked in a women's only changing room. He should realise his hypocrisy when saying he won't take his daughter into the men's room.
When I was a teen, we'd just finished swimming with a bunch of friends who were all girls and we were in the dressing room getting changed. In walked a man with a girl of about 3 years old, and started changing. Mind you, he had his back turned to us the entire time, and iirc he just put his pants on over his wet trunks, but I remember thinking why didn't he just take the girl into the men's dressing rooms? To this day, I still think about it sometimes, because while I'm quite positive the man didn't have any malicious intent, it was still very awkward for us teenage girls to have to be naked with this man right there (even if he wasn't looking), because I'm sure teenage boys would've felt way less uncomfortable having a 3 year old girl there. Why go into the women's room then? Because you feel seeing a bunch of penises will be harmful to the kid? I don't have the answer.
It's ridiculous. Women take their little sins to the ladies changing rooms all the time, you never see a mom taking her little son to change in the mens changing room so I don't see how this should be any different.
Load More Replies...In that situation I'd bring my daughter to the men's changing room, have her close her eyes walking in, and find a semi private place and hold a towel up while she quickly changed. This dude is just trying to cop a look in the women's locker room
An 8 yo child can get dressed herself... So send the child into the changing room and wait outside. A 6 yo could do too probably. And for younger, take them to YOUR changing room. Kids have no shame for bodies and do not associate nakedness with sex. Also there should always be single person stalls accesible not via a shared changing room imo.
This was a 4/5 year old kid. The 8 years old refers to the changing room policy. Given her behaviour (if we take OP at her word and, as it's on Mumsnet, it's likely massively exaggerated), sending her in alone isn't a solution. I do find it interesting how many women don't want a man in their changing rooms but think it's perfectly fine for a young girl to be taken into the men's changing rooms. Ultimately, the main issue is the hotel being presumably family friendly but having zero changing facilities dedicated to families, meaning this kind of situation is bound to happen more often than not.
Load More Replies...There are no two sides. Know why? DAD was the one who CHOSE to bring his daughter to the pool, and is responsible for her. The women who were in the changing rooms had no choice or warning here. A grown man doesn't get to walk into a room full of naked women unanounced and just screech "what about my kid?!" Dude, you chose to bring her here, you created the situation, it was YOUR JOB to think ahead of how to handle it or ask questions. And if you don't like the answer, choose not to bring the kid. You don't get to just do what you want because of the awkward situation YOU created. IT WASN'T CHILDREN'S TIME
It is not your problem where this guy takes the child- who should not have been there in the first place - to change. In fact it is not a problem at all since he had a room
Amen. All this fussing and fuming were unnecessary. The man had a room - take daughter up there to shower/bathe and change. I think he had more sinister goals in mind, at the least seeing some naughty bits. Hotel policy should be if you have a room, use it for changing.
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