If you like reading, you might also have a list of books that you wish were never written, to put it mildly. As a reader, I got curious about what exactly turns people away from a book. Whether it's the storyline or characters, there has to be something else that accompanies the poor writing.

Some time ago, I asked our community what their least favorite literature tropes and stock characters were and our pandas had a lot to share! Scroll down for the answers. What are your least favorite clichés in books?

#1

Sarcastic bad boy that has never loved before, has a troubled past, and hates everyone. Why the hell should the loner, unpopular girl (who usually likes to draw or read because "I'm not like other girls") be any different? But nope, he teases her, makes her think he hates her, then goes and kisses her after saving her life.

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BlockDog02
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. I see that a lot in high school American romances, and is annoying as heck. Though it does give me a little hope ;-;

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    Female characters who are competent, powerful, and awesome that inexplicably end up with the mediocre dude main character. Did they discover shared interests or chemistry? Did circumstances forge an unbreakable bond between them? Nah, he wanted her. So now she’s into him. Too much work to justify it, she’s a prize for him stumbling through the plot.

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    Dawn Sardella-Ayres
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The flip side of "all nerdy and mediocre guys deserve hot chicks with little effort" trope.

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    #3

    “A woman arrives at her place of employment; Because reasons, she’s suddenly working with a new Man Employee. Man Employee is actively superior, dismissive, and occasionally starts to mansplain even though she worked there first, because obviously she’s only a woman. Every fiber of her being despises Man Employees, as it should, for he’s an a**h***. Yet something inside her, somehow not a fiber of her being, knows that she will learn to desire this man because that’s how being female works.”

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    #4

    Giving characters a sudden new field of expertise based on some tenuous connection. "My uncle's neighbor's dog's trainer's friend's mom was an auto mechanic, so I think I can to rebuild Optimus Prime."

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "my dad was a X so I am an expert in the field".My father is a doctor. Dont ask me to operate on you.

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    #5

    When the character that is supposed to be ugly turns beautiful when they realize that beauty is on the inside.

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    Aurelia!
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. Why can't we just have an 'ugly' character stay 'ugly' and be happy that way?

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    #6

    Probably "Teenage girl who spouts that she's very unattractive but then describes her flowing blonde hair and blue eyes while gazing forlornly into a mirror before getting ready for school"

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    A Head
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    According to "the movies" she just has to take off her glasses, and re-style her hair. Never mind that she was a stunningly beautiful woman to begin with.

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    #7

    Autistic characters almost always being white, cisgender males that are savants and have a special interest in trains.

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    #8

    I don’t like the “Pick-me” girl type/masculine tomboyish main character. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s great to have tomboy characters and stereotypically masculine women, however, I don’t appreciate the idea that a woman has to be masculine to be considered strong. I don’t like that a stereotypically strong woman has to have the traits of a man or be “different from other girls” in order to be taken seriously or recognized as anything other than dumb, pretty, and weak. I think it fuels internalized misogyny and only further pushes the idea that anything feminine is wrong and weak while masculine is tough and strong.

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    Emilycookie
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i am super feminine, like 10/10 girly girl, pleated skirts and all. could i roast you to tears or make you really guilty though? probably! have i tromped through mud in sneakers on multiple mile hikes? heck yeah!

    Paige Leissner
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate the phrase "tomboy" because a girl shouldn't need a label for being sporty/not girly, we should just be judged on who we are because of who we are and what we like

    J. F.
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ironically this trope is often used by self-called "feminists" (they are not) through out all media - See "Masters of the Universe" on Netflix or "The Last of us 2". Strong women need to be as manly as possible to not appear as weak in the eyes of such writers, implying that femimine women can't be strong

    Bryn Parrott
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it’s a mistake to attach gender to traits such as “strong” and “weak” because both males and females have many examples of both. It’s better to more closely define those character traits to say what makes someone “strong”. For example someone with an introvert personality might come across as “weak” but possessing inner strength. “Strong” is often associated with another trait : “aggressiveness” but an aggressive person is not always “strong”.

    Giles McArdell
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is where shows like Buffy and more recently Netflix's Sabrina reboot are so good, those girls look like ordinary schoolgirls but are hard as nails deep down.

    Fried Mermaid
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes! And Luisa for Encanto, although she's muscled because -heavy lifting- she remains feminine, and Monica from friends, throughout the series they say several times how strong she is physically, a thing you wouldn't normally imagine from her figure

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    Puggawugbug
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m a girly girl but I love drawing mutant monsters and I think dinosaurs are cool.

    S McKenna
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg this is exactly what I have always thought. Its so annoying as theyre actually trying to be "feminist" yet are actually being the opposite by making out in order for a female to be strong she's got to be all tough and aggressive and masculine, being ultimately very ironic. Not only is is this anti feminist because of like you say anything feminine is wrong and weak while masculine is tough and strong but it's also making out that girls have got to be a certain way to be considered "strong" which is just so wrong, like its a one size fits all which isnt true of course.

    Pumpkin Spice
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love wearing dresses, doing makeup, painting my nails, watching chick flicks, drawing, reading. Can I beat you in a sparring contest? Yes. Can I psychologically manipulate your abusive parents into becoming semi-decent people? Yes. Can I hike 5 miles in the rain? Been there, done that, got the cold. Can I make a beautiful wood art piece? Yes! People who like 'masculine' things can be delicate and emotional. People who like 'feminine' things can be tough and protective. How you dress is just that, the clothes on your body. Nothing else. You are who you are, and you like what you like.

    Tigerpacingthecage
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. Something about this bothers me as well. The whole idea that women need to be more like men to be considered strong. Same in all fields really, like doing traditional "men's chores" like changing tires, dress gender neural and choose a male dominated work field. Instead of changing status of traditional women's professions and attributes and chores we choose to put the responsibility on the individual (women) to be more like men to gain status and power. Something about that seems wrong to me. Of course you should have the freedom to choose, but if we still have that mindset it's not much of a "real" choice. And in that way of thinking we can legitimate oppressing women who chose to be feminine because it's "a choice". We still put more value and power in traditional male behaviors, attitudes and attributes that way.

    Bryn Parrott
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I suggest that it’s a good idea to de-genderise the character traits and analyse the fundamentals of what is meant by “strong” “weak” etc Gender *might predispose a person to certain such traits but it is by no means the ultimate determinant.

    K Lam
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wear sundresses when I do yard work, cut wood, chainsaw dead branches etc my mil makes fun of me bc I'm doing "mens work" in a pretty girly dress. I just like them bc I don't get really hot and I don't like to wear shorts.

    Mika N
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, that mentality always bugs me. That was something I loved about Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman. She's strong and powerful but still seems more stereotypically feminine.

    Timothy Ellis
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love women athletes who are also feminine. Olympic skiers, gymnasts, softball players. So strong. Still women. Mostly feminine unless they don't want to be. Super attractive.

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    #9

    Women in peril. There is an entire genre of books (and movies) that rely on women being in danger and needing to be saved, either by themselves or by someone else, but nevertheless, they are in peril. The Girl on the Train, the Good Girl, All the Missing Girls, any Ruth Ware book...I could go on. I used to read them on the beach or buy them at airports but I can't stand them anymore!

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    #10

    The wise cracking nine-year-old kid who is "old for their years" and calls out the adults in situations they should have no experience with or input on. "We need to move again." "You said this was the last time!" "Yes, but things have changed." "You're a liar. I guess THAT didn't change." Just soooo annoying.

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    Lee
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They’re so annoying! No kid cares or talks like that to their parents unless they want their a** beaten! Wtf?! And it’s often above their ‘intelligence level’ not every kid is going to argue the implications of their parents’ actions like that and they literally do not care. at least, I never did.

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    #11

    This has already been said MANY times, but it is REALLY annoying. The gay BFF. Sure, I have a gay bestie, but it's not the friendship itself, is the girlishness of how the person or character acts. Or how someone expects them to act IRL. It's just, really freaking annoying

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Indeed. We need to see all people the same regarding sexual preference. My best friend is gay but i dont have "a gay best friend". I have a great friend that coincidentally likes men.

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    #12

    Quirky girl in her thirties. Likes to read and has a cat. Had a bad break up and now doesn’t trust love. Will probably get over it by the next nice man she meets!

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    #13

    I hate it when physical characteristics replace personality - hooded eyes meaning someone (especially a male character) is sexy and deep; long silky hair in an unusally-used color (raven, chestnut, wheat, etc.), especially on a girl, means she's sexy and smart. I don't care about hair or eyes or anything like that. Forward the plot, please.

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    Yeah, you heard
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, and telling me the colour of people's eyes. I haven't noticed the eye colour of most of my best friends, why would I need to know the eye colour of someone in a novel?

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    #14

    Group of completely different people end up stuck with each other, go through something tough, and then after three days they are all calling each other their “new family”, despite not knowing anything about them.

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    #15

    The stories where a girl has to learn to love herself, and that means ending up dating the Popular Boy, who has never noticed her before. Same as the protagonists who take off their glasses and put a dress and makeup on and end up being the belle of the ball. How can they not have blurry vision with their glasses off??

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    Dawn Sardella-Ayres
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The power of love magically fixes their eyesight. (I wish I was kidding, but I've had romance mss rejected because the FMC's disability wasn't fixed/healed by the romantic relationship. Yes, in the 2020s.)

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    #16

    In crime novels: the protagonist does not seek law enforcement assistance for their relatively simple predicament because *insert feeble excuse here*, but by the end of the novel, same protagonist is in a situation that commandeers 17 police officers, 3 crime scene investigators, 2 ambulances (1 for him/her self, another for the dead vilain), a forensic pathologist, doctors and nurses to treat their injuries, a frustrated DA office, an overwhelmed but extremely relieved spouse...

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    Honu
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Though the dead villain has often confessed, being somehow recorded or witnessed by others so the fact that the protagonist has spoiled all the evidence they have found, so it would never be admitted to trial, is irrelevant.

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    #17

    Honestly, I love most awful cliché tropes, I'm a sucker for a bad boy, I love a wiseass best friend, and I'm obsessed with a raging badass female lead.
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    But I can't stand the awkward, clumsy, mousy, shy girl who has no self-confidence and no personality and somehow everyone's inexplicably obsessed with her. I like a girl with substance, a Carstairs girl, or someone out of a Marissa Meyer novel. I love a girl that deserves the attention she gets.

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    BlockDog02
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, I am that girl and nobody cares xD. Ok, my confidence got better lately, but still.

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    #18

    In romance teen books, a girl finds a guy, then decides he's too good for her and goes with a nice guy type person instead, but is still drawn towards the first guy, and then at the end of the book returns to him, and finds out he was the one for her all along.

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    Susan Widomski
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perhaps it is just in classical literature where heroes die more often.

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    #19

    The main character's best friend who is better than the main character.

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    #20

    Like.... this one unpopular girl, with a lovely personality and beautiful hair and eyes, and the popular mean gal who bullies her. Why are all mean people supposedly popular there? Nobody likes a mean peep

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair not all popular kids are mean but most bullies are popuoar and mean.

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    #21

    When a male character is in love with a female character who verbally or physically abuses him.

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    #22

    I'm a Strong Female Protagonist! I look down on things like cleaning, cooking and sewing! I live in filth and if I need to reattach a button I just punch it. I drink straight grain alcohol and eat raw meat! Grrrl Power!

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    JustABoredwing
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How come nobody in any apocalypse shows likes sewing? I mean, somebody has to know how to sew if everybody is still walking around in clothes, right?

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    #23

    Well, I don't like the token gay friend, there's never just one, in a friend group that has a gay friend, its more likely to have a token straight friend. It's not that the gay friend turns everyone gay, it's just that everyone realizes they have been gay.

    And I also don't like the girl who takes off her glasses and puts down her hair and puts on a nice outfit and boom all of a sudden she's the most beautiful girl ever and everybody likes her. Like, no, everyone's beautiful no matter what, let her wear her glasses, let her wear a ponytail, let her wear leggings and a t-shirt, she's beautiful, she doesn't need to change, everyone else needs to change the way they look at her.

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    I is rainbow
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was, more or less, the token straight friend and then I realized ✨I'm Bi✨

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    #24

    I really don't like the stereotypical Strong Female Character. They are not strong, they are two-dimensional and have no personality. Usually all you get is a fight scene or two without any motivations behind their actions. Usually a man is their superior and they're like nO iM tHe SuPeRiOr ToDaY and you're supposed to be like "yeah!" but then you don't like her enough to care. Oh, and they're always like "I don't need a man to be strong!" but then are in a relationship by the end of the movie and can't do anything by themselves anymore.

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    #25

    Love triangles. The absolute jerk male character who's the alpha type (yes, the word is used at least once), who's an absolute a-hole to the girl, gets aggressive, always at least 7 times says 'you're not my type, or I won't have sex with you' and then does, still is a d**k, as she falls harder in love with him. Her 'changing' him by the end of the book usually frustrates me the most. Does love change people, sure, do people adapt and compromise in relationships, yeah they should, but you're never gonna fundamentally change someone.

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    #26

    The old good girl + bad boy plotline. Also, the movies and books and tv shows where the character is completely normal and boring, being picked on, maybe being raised in a bad household and wishing things were different, and then BAM BAM BAM it turns out their humanity's only hope to stop evil and save the world!!!!!!!
    I mean, don't get me wrong, some people execute this idea pretty flawlessly, but still.

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    Timothy Ellis
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What do the good girl and bad boy have in common? What is it that brings them together? What would they talk about? What do they admire about each other when they have such different values?

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    #27

    Years ago I stopped reading a author when I saw that in every book the main characters were always described as “devastating beauty/rich beyond compare/immortal" I will admit, I did enjoy reading the Interview with a Vampire books when they were first published... but OMG that trope got annoying

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    Anke Dieken
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember reading books by Joy Fielding. I used to enjoy them, but after a few I realised that it was somehow always the male partner in the women's life who was the bad one (and giving bad vibes).

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    #28

    love triangles, cop falling for the criminal, fatal love story that ends in death, etc.

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    Analyn Lahr
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got one but I'm kinda into it: grumpy a*****e meets cheery lunatic and they fall in love.

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    #29

    The "perfect" girl/boy that has parents that make about a gazillion dollars a day.

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    The "supposed to be _ but is actually _ whereas friend is supposed to be _ but actually _" or the "I'm different from the other girls".

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    #31

    a big fight scene in a hallway

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    #32

    1) When someone (or often multiple people) is running down a narrow passageway with villains using guns are never hit by the bullets.

    2) People who hide behind a stuffed couch or chair are perfectly safe from gun fire.

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    Susan Widomski
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why don't they ever just shoot them in the leg and incapacitate them? Save a lot of boring chases down corridors with always wet pipes and floors and really bad lighting.

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    #33

    My least favorite, most infuriating literature/film trope is exploiting rape as a superficial or voyeuristic plot point. Enough already!

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    Aeon Flux
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Heartily agree. I wince when violence towards women is used as an accessory to the plot.

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    #34

    A character that is nerdy/smart and therefore knows everything and succeeds in all intellectual pursuits.
    "This character has a PhD in astrophysics and chemistry, and will also describe great and lengthy details of animal biology, ancient Mongol customs, supersonic propulsion systems, classical French literature and complex economic systems.....in 8 languages, while playing 3 games of chess."

    Dr. House and The Big Bang Theory are rampant abusers of this.

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And Bones. I know that its stupid but a big part of ny insecurities as a biology student came from that series. It is impossible to be an expert in all, even inside one subject.

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    #35

    The dorky, dumpy looking nerdy goof who gets a makeover and ends up wooing the jerky sex-pot who has the personality of a peach pit

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    #36

    I’m not sure if this is a literary trope or just a tv trope, but the military officer not agreeing with a superior officer but say “sir” with the most disdain possible. It doesn’t seem like just the word should be respectful but the tone should be as well.

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    #37

    If the character is a “huge misfit”and “super ugly and shy” but every boy in school has a crush on her

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    #38

    Mary/Gary Sue style characters.
    Must say One Punch Man is a great satire of this.

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    #39

    Not a big fan of the heist/detective tropes, I find it hard to follow the story because most of the times it bores me to death.

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    #40

    1) The Chosen one (I love HP but this is overused)
    2) Damsel in Distress (obvi)
    3) That one lady whose cattiness and pettiness are over-exaggerated
    4) The gay sidekick (why always a sidekick? Why can't we have more gay main characters?)
    5) The token ___(insert identity)___ friend
    6) The Angry Black Man/Lady (SO many things wrong with this stupid stereotype don't even get me started)
    7) White Savior Trope
    8) Magical Negro Trope
    9) White Woman Syndrome Trope

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    Gay Llama
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am planning on writing a lesbian love story. I am not going to focus on homophobia though I'm mostly just gonna make it a regular love story except lesbians instead of straight. I'm probably never gonna finish it though lol. Like most of my stories.

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    #41

    People who act like "The cops can't get involved" And "I can handle it myself" attitude. Like, why do this? Do you have suicidal thoughts? (Looking at you max pane)

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    Vorknkx
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Max Payne is based on a video game, so the protagnoist is supposed to do most stuff alone (as he would in the game).

    #42

    Heinlein's women: smart, capable, and sassy, yet, somehow aroused by making their man a sandwich.

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    #43

    Oh also- another trope I’m quite sick of- twins being photo-copies of each other or always having something to do with the other. I know it makes for interesting characters and fuels the plot and there are some twin characters in literature that I admire, but in reality (I don’t know how it’s like for identical twins) having a fraternal twin brother is only like having another sibling. There’s nothing so special about it, we don’t finish each other’s sentences, we’re entirely different people, and our interests and friend groups are full on different. I’ve had people ask if I can feel his pain or read his mind. No! It’s actually quite boring!!

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    RUBAYY
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My youngest brothers are identical twins and they dont look the same lol

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    #44

    The girl meets her boss in the elevator, then scores her boss and a promotion. She "earned" it.

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    #45

    A computer "expert" who spends 9 seconds rapidly typing on a keyboard before announcing "I'm in!" as he hacks the Pentagon, UN, Alien Mother ship, or a Denny's in Albuquerque. (Its even better when a complete doofus character figures out a password on the second guess by looking at items on the persons desk.)

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    Lee
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “*keyboard smash* I’ve hacked the fbi. we have ten seconds before the firewall closes again.” or “we’re gonna need to go into ... the dark web.”

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    #46

    When tough cops or something laugh after getting slapped in the face

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    #48

    The gorgeous, confident, smart heroine who falls for the goodhearted but really homely sidekick of the irresistibly handsome hero, instead of the hero (who, of course, also ends up with a gorgeous woman). I'm still waiting for the handsome hero to find love with the goodhearted but plain and frumpy friend of the gorgeous heroine, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.

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    Dawn Sardella-Ayres
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THANK YOU! I hate that these kinds of tropes are never gender-flipped or queered in any way. Well, unless she has a makeover and becomes a "hot girl."

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    #49

    Comic relief characters.

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    Easily Excitable Panda
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When they're well done, they're magnificent. When they're badly done (which is most of the time), you wish you'd never bothered to learn to read.

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    #50

    For characters here's my list of cliches:
    Femme Fatales
    Love Triangles
    Unreasonable asshat bully/jock.
    Antihero-main (usually male) character's family member/love-intrest/child/pet killed so the plot can progress to vengenance.
    Supergenius completely evil arch nemisis/overlord.
    Save the world from secret weapon/conspiracy.

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    #51

    I HATE the 'white girl in high school who has blond hair and blue eyes and perfect skin and wears high heels and really short skirts and is snobby'

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    Norma
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's because you didn't have to deal with her. Every. Single. Day.

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    #52

    1. People "falling in love" in less than 24 hours and/or kissing near-strangers passionately for no apparent reason ("Nerve", I'm looking at you!).
    2. Humans engaging in sexual relations with aliens from another planet... uh, hello, b********y? Just no.
    3. The romanticizing & glamorizing of vampirism & other spiritually dark themes in teen lit.
    4. The way every book or show aimed at kids & teens has to be like a "United Nations of Beneton" ad, and the characters all have to have "relevant issues" & depression & identity crises, etc. What happened to stories about normal, happy kids having adventures?
    5. The "hypocritical/repressed Christian" and "narrow-minded/judgmental Christian who's really just ignorant or afraid of what s/he doesn't understand" trope that Hollywood absolutely looooves to throw into movies & tv shows. Usually this is some one-dimensional cartoon-villain character who reflects about a 3rd-grader's understanding of what Christianity actually means, but is supposed to learn an important lesson about tolerance, or whatever. This trope is both incredibly ignorant & incredibly condescending.

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    TS Rhodes
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem is that so many so-called "Christian" people actually have a 3rd grader's understanding of their own religion, and just use it as an excuse to feel superior and to hurt other people.

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