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Mom Gets Promotion That Requires Moving Away, Considers Leaving Kids With Abusive Ex
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Mom Gets Promotion That Requires Moving Away, Considers Leaving Kids With Abusive Ex

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In the current economy, you’d be a fool to turn down a promotion. But what if it meant upending your life, moving to the other side of the country, and leaving your two kids behind with your abusive ex-husband? 

This is the exact situation facing a woman who’s looking for a fresh start so she can create a better life for her children. Torn between earning more money and staying connected to her kids, she turned to the Mumsnet community for advice. 

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    Almost all of us could do with a promotion, but for this woman, it comes with a serious downside

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    Eager to secure a better future for her kids, she wants to take it, but it would mean moving to the other side of the country

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    The only way it would work is if she left her two kids behind with her abusive ex-husband and only saw them every other weekend

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    She says he’s lazy with the kids and never takes them to any of their extracurricular activities, expecting them to fit in with his lifestyle

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    Torn between the promotion and keeping up her relationship with her kids, she turned to the web for advice

    OP begins her story by telling the community that she’s been offered a big promotion but taking it would mean moving 5-6 hours away from home. She goes on to say that she and her ex-husband share custody of their two children, and that he won’t give it up so she can take the kids with her.

    She adds that her ex was controlling and abusive and has even told her that his goal is to make life as tough as possible for her. While he says he loves his kids, he makes co-parenting nearly impossible and is jealous of her close relationship with the children.

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    She also mentions that he’s lazy with the kids and expects them to fit into his lifestyle, which regularly involves trips to the local pub with his friends. OP says that his only aim with the shared custody is to avoid paying maintenance. 

    OP says she’s tempted to call his bluff and take the promotion anyway, but she’s worried what leaving the kids behind with him would do to her relationship with her kids.

    She’s only considering taking the promotion so she can rebuild a life with her kids after an admittedly horrendous divorce. She’s since turned to the Mumsnet community to ask if it’d be unreasonable to go for the new job, even though it would mean only seeing her kids every other weekend. 

    In an update to her original post, OP tells the community that she’s not going to take the promotion after all, stating that her relationship with her kids is what should come first. 

    It sounds like OP’s ex is a real piece of work. Now that she’s decided to stay put, she could probably use some strategies and tools to help cope with his bad behavior.

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    For starters, it doesn’t look like co-parenting is possible thanks to the husband’s attitude towards OP. That’s because co-parenting involves both parents sharing an amicable relationship and working together to minimize the negative impact of the divorce on their kids.

    OP would need to turn to parallel parenting. This method allows a parent who’s dealing with a toxic ex to create a workable, more independent, and less stressful relationship via a number of practical strategies.

    In her article for Choosing Therapy, Dr. Suzanne Degges-White writes that parallel parenting focuses on maintaining limited interaction and setting clear boundaries between separated parents who share joint custody of their child(ren). All communication is conducted via mediators or email to establish distance between the ex-couple.

    While co-parenting couples work together to develop a shared parenting plan for their kids, in the case of parallel parenting, there’s no collaboration and strict boundaries when it comes to communication between parents. This model of co-parenting involves detailed and agreed upon plans regarding things like schedules, locations, and pick-up times.

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    In her article for Divorce.com, former attorney and mediator Brette Sember JD writes that, if you have a toxic ex, it’s critical you realize two important things. First, you cannot change them, you can only control yourself and your own behavior. Second, you will be co-parents with them for the rest of your natural lives, so you have to find a way to manage the situation.

    Sember puts forward 11 tips for co-parenting with a toxic ex, some of which include putting your child first by respecting the parenting schedule, prioritizing your self-care and well-being, finding a lawyer empathetic to your case, and getting a detailed court order.

    She goes on to add that it’s crucial to establish personal boundaries. For example, you may decide that if your ex raises their voice, that’s the end of the conversation. Be decisive about your boundaries and don’t back down if they’re being crossed.

    If texting with your ex proves to be too toxic, there are even co-parenting apps that help manage communication and scheduling. As an added benefit, communication stored on these apps can become part of the court record. Some even offer online access to mediators who can step in to resolve conflict in near real time. 

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    While we’re glad that OP decided not to sacrifice her kids’ well-being just to get back at her ex, it does seem as though she needs to switch up her co-parenting situation or her life will remain as miserable as her ex wants it to be.

    What would you have done if you’d found yourself in OP’s shoes? Do you think it’s time she re-evaluates the parenting arrangement with her abusive ex? Let us know your opinion in the comments!

    Commenters on the woman’s post seemed to agree that taking the promotion would be a terrible idea and would give her ex-husband the perfect opportunity to badmouth her to her kids

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    What do you think about OP's decision not to take the promotion?
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    Babs McGurk
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your ex is as bad as you say he is, you will regret it until your dying day if you leave your children with him while you move away for this promotion. Find a better job closer to home, or keep the job you have, but don't abandon your kids - because that's what it will feel like to them.

    RAM31280
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is a rough decision to make. Essentially giving up the 50/50 custody to make more money, but then he can file for child support from her. But doing it out of spite so he has to take them to their activities sounds like controlling/manipulative behavior she is accusing him of. And in that year he will be bad mouthing her, probably leading to them taking his side over hers. It sounds like the kids would be better off as is still being 50/50. But, regardless of her decision, both parents need to learn to coparent better.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is her only solution to leave the kids with the neglectful a*****e ex full time for a year? Why isn’t she just talking the kids with her? From the language, it sounds like they’re either in the UK, Australia, or Canada, and there was no mention of the job being out of the country, so I don’t think she’d be going against the custody agreement, or that the agreement couldn’t be amended like other divorced couples who live far from each other have. For instance, instead of every other weekend, it becomes living with one parent during the school year, then spending every summer, or extended school holidays, or specific holidays during the year with the other parent (and swapping them every year, like Christmas with Mom this year, and with Dad next year, etc). Why isn’t she exploring this option at all? Hell, my parents weren’t divorced, but we moved quite a bit, including from the east coast to the west coast of the US. I went to three grade schools, two junior highs, and (thankfully only) one high school. I adjusted to the new places, new friends, and new schools, and that experience has helped me way more easily adjust to new jobs and new cities as an adult than people who lived in the same place with the same people their entire lives.

    Feathered Dinosaur
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because if you share custody, you share the decision where your child lives. You can't relocate a child without the other's consent, which in this case the mom won't get. She would have to go to court and fight for the right to take the kids with her, where the chances of success are slim. And it would cost a lot of money, thousands, as she said.

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    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She needs to take the job. Let the kids see their father for who he is. He will probably be begging her to take them after a couple of weeks. Then she wins.

    AsylumWalker
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or he entirely alienates them and they never want to see her or talk to her again.

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    Joanne Mendonza-Earle
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't know where OP lives, but I worked in family law and when there were great job opportunities for a parent who needs to move, the court will allow the move. Perhaps she should tell the ex that she won't request child support and will ensure that she brings them to see him e/o weekend.

    Sunny Day
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How does the raise compare to the child support you'd be pressed into paying? (You won't be 50/50 anymore.) OTOH, a year with Dad might end up with the kids no longer adoring him.

    DinosEatNoods
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do not take the job, there are other ways to figure out how to make more money. If you’re being offered this amazing promotion, then you can negotiate with the company or let them know your situation and let them know you are open to these opportunities but are unable to relocate. Look for other jobs. Leaving your kids even for a year could have legal implications for your parenting time moving forward, at a minimum he may use this against you. It is obvious he wants to control and engage with you via the children. Get yourself a lawyer you trust and have their number handy and also get a therapist you like and stick with them!! Abusers are master gaslighters and manipulators. I suspect he’s already been doing some numbers on you and the kids. A good therapist can help you stay grounded, guide your decision making, and breakdown the gaslighting so you don’t feel like you’re going nuts! Protect your kids and yourself. Good luck!

    Lyoness
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an awful situation, especially for those kids. Ideally she and her ex would find a way to coparent without bitterness, but clearly that isn't going to happen. As it stands leaving her kids for a job in the hopes it'll mean she'll eventually find another job near home makes zero sense to me. And how is essentially abandoning your children 'calling his bluff'? That part made no sense to me. I think she's right that leaving the kids with her ex is a risk, but not just because he might turn them against her. It's because her children will see it as abandonment and will never forgive her. She should NOT take that job.

    AKA AKA
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    would i be possible for the kids to sstay one month with their dad and one with their mum ? then they'd still be 50-50 and the long drives will be less frequent

    Estelle E.
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They need to go to school. It would be harmful for kids this young to be deprived of their everyday life.

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    Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
    Community Member
    2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    5-6 hours away is nothing with split custody. Sorry thats the flat truth. Take the job, move forward and offer them a better life. Also means the dead weight cant rely on her and makes tsking full custody easier

    Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
    Community Member
    2 months ago

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    This is the kind of decision you talk over with the father. You cant just say, "Im leaving and the kids are yours full time now". And since it doesnt sound like they have a good coparenting situation her ask is moot. She was never going to do it.

    S. K.
    Community Member
    2 months ago

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    This is so biased it's not funny. She's clearly used the 'controlling and abusive' line in the divorce process... as so many women do to get the legal system to favour them. It may be true... but it's likely just her perspective. I wonder what he would say about her...

    Babs McGurk
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your ex is as bad as you say he is, you will regret it until your dying day if you leave your children with him while you move away for this promotion. Find a better job closer to home, or keep the job you have, but don't abandon your kids - because that's what it will feel like to them.

    RAM31280
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is a rough decision to make. Essentially giving up the 50/50 custody to make more money, but then he can file for child support from her. But doing it out of spite so he has to take them to their activities sounds like controlling/manipulative behavior she is accusing him of. And in that year he will be bad mouthing her, probably leading to them taking his side over hers. It sounds like the kids would be better off as is still being 50/50. But, regardless of her decision, both parents need to learn to coparent better.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is her only solution to leave the kids with the neglectful a*****e ex full time for a year? Why isn’t she just talking the kids with her? From the language, it sounds like they’re either in the UK, Australia, or Canada, and there was no mention of the job being out of the country, so I don’t think she’d be going against the custody agreement, or that the agreement couldn’t be amended like other divorced couples who live far from each other have. For instance, instead of every other weekend, it becomes living with one parent during the school year, then spending every summer, or extended school holidays, or specific holidays during the year with the other parent (and swapping them every year, like Christmas with Mom this year, and with Dad next year, etc). Why isn’t she exploring this option at all? Hell, my parents weren’t divorced, but we moved quite a bit, including from the east coast to the west coast of the US. I went to three grade schools, two junior highs, and (thankfully only) one high school. I adjusted to the new places, new friends, and new schools, and that experience has helped me way more easily adjust to new jobs and new cities as an adult than people who lived in the same place with the same people their entire lives.

    Feathered Dinosaur
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because if you share custody, you share the decision where your child lives. You can't relocate a child without the other's consent, which in this case the mom won't get. She would have to go to court and fight for the right to take the kids with her, where the chances of success are slim. And it would cost a lot of money, thousands, as she said.

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    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She needs to take the job. Let the kids see their father for who he is. He will probably be begging her to take them after a couple of weeks. Then she wins.

    AsylumWalker
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or he entirely alienates them and they never want to see her or talk to her again.

    Load More Replies...
    Joanne Mendonza-Earle
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't know where OP lives, but I worked in family law and when there were great job opportunities for a parent who needs to move, the court will allow the move. Perhaps she should tell the ex that she won't request child support and will ensure that she brings them to see him e/o weekend.

    Sunny Day
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How does the raise compare to the child support you'd be pressed into paying? (You won't be 50/50 anymore.) OTOH, a year with Dad might end up with the kids no longer adoring him.

    DinosEatNoods
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do not take the job, there are other ways to figure out how to make more money. If you’re being offered this amazing promotion, then you can negotiate with the company or let them know your situation and let them know you are open to these opportunities but are unable to relocate. Look for other jobs. Leaving your kids even for a year could have legal implications for your parenting time moving forward, at a minimum he may use this against you. It is obvious he wants to control and engage with you via the children. Get yourself a lawyer you trust and have their number handy and also get a therapist you like and stick with them!! Abusers are master gaslighters and manipulators. I suspect he’s already been doing some numbers on you and the kids. A good therapist can help you stay grounded, guide your decision making, and breakdown the gaslighting so you don’t feel like you’re going nuts! Protect your kids and yourself. Good luck!

    Lyoness
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an awful situation, especially for those kids. Ideally she and her ex would find a way to coparent without bitterness, but clearly that isn't going to happen. As it stands leaving her kids for a job in the hopes it'll mean she'll eventually find another job near home makes zero sense to me. And how is essentially abandoning your children 'calling his bluff'? That part made no sense to me. I think she's right that leaving the kids with her ex is a risk, but not just because he might turn them against her. It's because her children will see it as abandonment and will never forgive her. She should NOT take that job.

    AKA AKA
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    would i be possible for the kids to sstay one month with their dad and one with their mum ? then they'd still be 50-50 and the long drives will be less frequent

    Estelle E.
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They need to go to school. It would be harmful for kids this young to be deprived of their everyday life.

    Load More Replies...
    Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
    Community Member
    2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    5-6 hours away is nothing with split custody. Sorry thats the flat truth. Take the job, move forward and offer them a better life. Also means the dead weight cant rely on her and makes tsking full custody easier

    Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
    Community Member
    2 months ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    This is the kind of decision you talk over with the father. You cant just say, "Im leaving and the kids are yours full time now". And since it doesnt sound like they have a good coparenting situation her ask is moot. She was never going to do it.

    S. K.
    Community Member
    2 months ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    This is so biased it's not funny. She's clearly used the 'controlling and abusive' line in the divorce process... as so many women do to get the legal system to favour them. It may be true... but it's likely just her perspective. I wonder what he would say about her...

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