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Applicant Stands Up And Leaves After Job Interviewer’s Question About “Handling Unpaid Overtime”

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There are many questions, both appropriate and downright weird, that employers, managers, and HR peeps sometimes ask during job interviews. We’ve compiled a list of such questions many times – and it turns out that more than one job seeker has actually encountered something similar. Today’s situation is no exception.

The user u/sahalymn, the author of the story we are about to tell you today, recently went to an interview at a company from which they didn’t expect the slightest trick. However, literally the very first question during the interview actually embarrassed them and made them suspect that it was a joke. Already intrigued? Then let’s read on.

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    The author of the post recently attended a job interview for an interesting position with a decent salary

    A hiring manager in a blue sweater enthusiastically shakes hands with a candidate in an office setting.

    Image credits: Drazen Zigic / Freepik (not the actual photo)

    However, the very first question was about the job seeker’s attitude toward working unpaid overtime

    Text image discussing a job interview where the hiring manager talks about unpaid overtime.

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    Text in image asks about handling unpaid overtime, relating to employees working unpaid hours.

    Image credits: sahalymn

    Empty wallet symbolizing unpaid overtime and passionate employees.

    Image credits: EyeEm / Freepik (not the actual photo)

    The author was baffled and thought it was just a joke – but it turned out it actually wasn’t

    Text from applicant laughing about unpaid overtime during an interview discussion.

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    Text expressing passionate employees working unpaid overtime in a humorous context.

    Image credits: sahalymn

    Candidate in a job interview with hiring managers, reflecting on unpaid overtime passion claim.

    Image credits: Wavebreak Media / Freepik (not the actual photo)

    The manager said that everyone in the company is incredibly eager to get things done, so they don’t even track overtime hours

    Candidate declines job offer over unpaid overtime demand.

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    Text questioning decision on job offer related to unpaid overtime and passion.

    Image credits: sahalymn

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    The author then just stood up and walked out, considering this a big red flag

    So, the Original Poster (OP) is looking for a job (at least a few of their other posts are also dedicated to job interviews and open positions), and they recently received an invitation to an interview for a position that they were very interested in. The salary that the company was offering for this vacancy was also more than decent.

    But literally the first question that the author was asked by the company representatives during the interview was how they felt about working unpaid overtime. The job seeker was surprised and even asked for clarification, expecting this to be a joke, but they were told the same thing straight out – working overtime without any additional compensation. It turned out that this is, well… a company tradition.

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    According to the manager themselves, everyone in the company is so passionate about their work that they literally do not leave their workplace until all tasks for the day are completed. And if this means free overtime work, then so be it. Moreover, according to the manager, the company doesn’t track extra hours at all.

    Now everything became clear to the author. They stood up, politely thanked them for their time, but admitted that this wasn’t the right fit for them. After which they calmly left. But now, after some time, the original poster has begun to be tormented by doubts – did they do the right thing in this situation? After all, both the position itself and the salary were quite interesting.

    Person in a suit counting money at a desk with a calculator, representing employee passion and unpaid overtime.

    Image credits: wirestock / Freepik (not the actual photo)

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    If you’re wondering whether it’s even legal to work overtime for free, don’t rush to say “no.” As with almost any business situation, there are many nuances. For example, this dedicated article on Clockify points out that, yes, in most cases, working unpaid overtime is illegal – but there are exceptions. For example, such work may be classified as “voluntary.”

    In other words, your employment contract will not stipulate that you are required to work overtime, but it is at your own discretion. And, accordingly, once such a practice becomes a “corporate tradition,” you will not be able to de facto leave your workplace on time. Moreover, overtime hours, as we saw in the post above, are not tracked by the company.

    If the employer fails to follow the overtime rules stipulated in an employment contract, then, as Punchwork notes, “the employee could pursue a claim for damages due to breach of contract.” But, here, since such a question is asked first during a job interview, it means that, most likely, there have already been precedents of a clash of interests between employees and the company.

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    People in the comments also agree that the OP did absolutely the right thing. After all, if they are a conscientious and experienced specialist in their field, they will find a job in any case. So putting up with such things is, according to the responders, completely unacceptable. By the way, have you, our dear readers, ever encountered something like this at work?

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    Most commenters just said the applicant was right since such corporate practice is completely inappropriate

    Text discussing unpaid overtime and career changes for better pay.

    Text conversation about interview with hiring manager discussing unpaid overtime.

    Comments discussing passionate employees and unpaid overtime concerns.

    Comment humorously reacts to unpaid overtime expectations with, "I don't work for free," highlighting candidate's perspective.

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    Text discussing salaried positions, unpaid overtime, and legal work requirements.

    Comment on employees' unpaid overtime, stating 'Flawless victory. Don't question it for a second.

    Comment on unpaid overtime; user calls workplace a "toxic thieving place" and advises departure.

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    Text exchange criticizing unpaid overtime and work disrespect, with sarcastic response.

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    Comment highlights red flags and desperation on unpaid overtime.

    Text exchange about unpaid overtime; candidate humorously states it's illegal.

    Text exchange about an HR manager demanding 80-hour workweeks; the candidate laughs at unpaid overtime expectations.

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    Candidate laughs at hiring manager's comment on unpaid overtime and growth promises, screenshot of online comment.

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    Monika Pašukonytė

    Monika Pašukonytė

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    I am a visual editor here. In my free time I enjoy the vibrant worlds of art galleries, exhibitions, and soulful concerts. Yet, amidst life's hustle and bustle, I find solace in nature's embrace, cherishing tranquil moments with beloved friends. Deep within, I hold a dream close - to embark on a global journey in an RV, accompanied by my faithful canine companion. Together, we'll wander through diverse cultures, weaving precious memories under the starry night sky, fulfilling the wanderlust that stirs my soul.

    What do you think ?
    Trillian
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask them 'How do you feel about people leaving early on slow days'. If they want you to stay and finish a job when needed (and assuming that is not every day) then this should be fine as well. Since 'we don't track time'.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Amazing. Manager has just admitted to a stranger that his company breaks the law. Report them.

    David Beth
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not necessarily against the law - depends on the country, type of position, how it's paid, and other factors.

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    geezeronthehill
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You rent your time. Act like a landlord.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And overcharge, just like a landlord. 😂😂

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    Peter Bear
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "How do you feel about being reported to the federal labor board?"

    Charles McChristy
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "No problem. I'm fine tracking all of my extra hours for you."

    Mike F
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My next question would be - I have to leave 2 hours early, am I getting paid for the full day or docked the 2 hours? Unless it is a salaried position on the table, we all know what the answer to that question will be. C-ya!

    Tim Douglass
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The way to call that out is to ask them if they are willing to confirm that they intend to steal wages from you and that they make a practice of wage theft from their existing employees.

    Joanne Earle
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was at an interview for work that I desperately needed, and the lawyer is talking about what would be expected of me, and when he said, 'And if you want coffee you better bring it with you because I'm not paying you to be in the kitchen making it when you get here. You are expected to go right to work.' The vacation/sick policy was unpaid and non existent, the pay was kinda crappy. I stood up and said, 'Thank you for taking the time to meet with me, but I could never be happy working for you'. Ended up getting the job of my dreams right after that and worked for that firm for 12 years till I relocated.

    Dizzie D
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hit them with a counter statement ‘ well that’s okay as long as you accept that some days I just won’t be in work because I have already worked those hours in overtime’ Just as stupid as what they are saying in that interview.

    Mad McQueen
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No need to waste your “unpaid” time with that interview. At least they asked that stupid question right off to let you know they were scoundrels.

    Pandaodboredem22
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't doubt that questions like this are asked. But it seems odd that this was the very first question. If it's true, it was incredibly stupid on the interviewers part not to hook them in first before hitting them with that bombshell, as messed up as it is to have that workplace culture.

    Nancy Whiting
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's got a name: It's called "WAGE THEFT."

    JP
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the first question is how you feel about being exploited and abused at work, OP was absolutely right to get up and walk out.

    J L
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a company does not pay overtime, they need to compensate some other way...ie: a day or halfday off some other time in lieu of payment.

    Adam Zad
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How do I handle working unpaid overtime? The same way you handle paying me for not working.

    Another Panda
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always thought doing unpaid above and beyond would pay off. Guess what it didn’t do.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know they tell kids " if it feels icky, then it is." Why shouldn't adults trust their gut feelings too.

    Lee May
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Report them to the feds, stop messing around with companies breaking federal labor laws, report them. I took out a franchise pizza chain with the help of the feds over labor laws, former boss had to flee the country.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "How much unpaid overtime do YOU do personally?" would be my counter question.

    Gogubaci
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you shoud have also slapped the interviewer for this disresepctl

    Jo Firth
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Work for nothing and you are telling people you are worth nothing.

    Dee Tag
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dont forget that Wells Fargo employee who died in the office and wasn't found for 4 days. They don't care about you. Your just another cog in the machine. It's okay to put yourself first. Don't work until you drop.

    Pyla
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    a load of salary jobs do this. If you are an hourly employee and not salaried, then it's against the law. In our small department managers to epic overtime. I know it's supposed to be logged and comp time issued, but it's not the case.

    CatWoman1014
    Community Member
    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So he wants a slave not a paid worker. Got it

    Fred L.
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good you walked out. Alternatively you could have in all seriousness asked for a 300% higher starting salary since you don't track company profits.

    Rick Murray
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like that so many people opted to politely decline. No, walk. If that's how they *begin* an interview, it says a lot about their ethics and how willing they are to exploit workers. Politely decline if it comes in the middle of the interview, but as the first question it's a huge red flag - just leave.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I feel like the Department of Labor would frown on that."

    Jordan Croff
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would've kept laughing as I walked out. These employers really take us for jokes.

    MsLou
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That just happened to me yesterday

    66y6dvmmw7
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not legal. I can't believe they lead with that!

    Kira_Hibiki
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its entirely legal. They also don't pay you the minimum 3 hours for showing up to the interview. Ya know why? Because the interview is volunteered time and not part of the contract. Same thing with hours worked. You can show up at 8am instead of 9am and get a start on a day if ya want.....not on shift and not paid not wage theft or illegal. Likewise if your shift ends at 3pm and you decide to stay back and help the next crew it's not OT or wage theft because YOU decided. They cannot force you work unpaid overtime but you can do it if you so choose. Before commenting on legality go read them search the ot part for "volunteer" "contract" and others like work permits get a more in depth understanding youll be suprised to know how many variants and nuances there are and you'll be suprised to know that most likely your and 99% of people's understanding of that law is less than 1%

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    Trillian
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask them 'How do you feel about people leaving early on slow days'. If they want you to stay and finish a job when needed (and assuming that is not every day) then this should be fine as well. Since 'we don't track time'.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Amazing. Manager has just admitted to a stranger that his company breaks the law. Report them.

    David Beth
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not necessarily against the law - depends on the country, type of position, how it's paid, and other factors.

    Load More Replies...
    geezeronthehill
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You rent your time. Act like a landlord.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And overcharge, just like a landlord. 😂😂

    Load More Replies...
    Peter Bear
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "How do you feel about being reported to the federal labor board?"

    Charles McChristy
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "No problem. I'm fine tracking all of my extra hours for you."

    Mike F
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My next question would be - I have to leave 2 hours early, am I getting paid for the full day or docked the 2 hours? Unless it is a salaried position on the table, we all know what the answer to that question will be. C-ya!

    Tim Douglass
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The way to call that out is to ask them if they are willing to confirm that they intend to steal wages from you and that they make a practice of wage theft from their existing employees.

    Joanne Earle
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was at an interview for work that I desperately needed, and the lawyer is talking about what would be expected of me, and when he said, 'And if you want coffee you better bring it with you because I'm not paying you to be in the kitchen making it when you get here. You are expected to go right to work.' The vacation/sick policy was unpaid and non existent, the pay was kinda crappy. I stood up and said, 'Thank you for taking the time to meet with me, but I could never be happy working for you'. Ended up getting the job of my dreams right after that and worked for that firm for 12 years till I relocated.

    Dizzie D
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hit them with a counter statement ‘ well that’s okay as long as you accept that some days I just won’t be in work because I have already worked those hours in overtime’ Just as stupid as what they are saying in that interview.

    Mad McQueen
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No need to waste your “unpaid” time with that interview. At least they asked that stupid question right off to let you know they were scoundrels.

    Pandaodboredem22
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't doubt that questions like this are asked. But it seems odd that this was the very first question. If it's true, it was incredibly stupid on the interviewers part not to hook them in first before hitting them with that bombshell, as messed up as it is to have that workplace culture.

    Nancy Whiting
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's got a name: It's called "WAGE THEFT."

    JP
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the first question is how you feel about being exploited and abused at work, OP was absolutely right to get up and walk out.

    J L
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a company does not pay overtime, they need to compensate some other way...ie: a day or halfday off some other time in lieu of payment.

    Adam Zad
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How do I handle working unpaid overtime? The same way you handle paying me for not working.

    Another Panda
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always thought doing unpaid above and beyond would pay off. Guess what it didn’t do.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know they tell kids " if it feels icky, then it is." Why shouldn't adults trust their gut feelings too.

    Lee May
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Report them to the feds, stop messing around with companies breaking federal labor laws, report them. I took out a franchise pizza chain with the help of the feds over labor laws, former boss had to flee the country.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "How much unpaid overtime do YOU do personally?" would be my counter question.

    Gogubaci
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you shoud have also slapped the interviewer for this disresepctl

    Jo Firth
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Work for nothing and you are telling people you are worth nothing.

    Dee Tag
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dont forget that Wells Fargo employee who died in the office and wasn't found for 4 days. They don't care about you. Your just another cog in the machine. It's okay to put yourself first. Don't work until you drop.

    Pyla
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    a load of salary jobs do this. If you are an hourly employee and not salaried, then it's against the law. In our small department managers to epic overtime. I know it's supposed to be logged and comp time issued, but it's not the case.

    CatWoman1014
    Community Member
    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So he wants a slave not a paid worker. Got it

    Fred L.
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good you walked out. Alternatively you could have in all seriousness asked for a 300% higher starting salary since you don't track company profits.

    Rick Murray
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like that so many people opted to politely decline. No, walk. If that's how they *begin* an interview, it says a lot about their ethics and how willing they are to exploit workers. Politely decline if it comes in the middle of the interview, but as the first question it's a huge red flag - just leave.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I feel like the Department of Labor would frown on that."

    Jordan Croff
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would've kept laughing as I walked out. These employers really take us for jokes.

    MsLou
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That just happened to me yesterday

    66y6dvmmw7
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not legal. I can't believe they lead with that!

    Kira_Hibiki
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its entirely legal. They also don't pay you the minimum 3 hours for showing up to the interview. Ya know why? Because the interview is volunteered time and not part of the contract. Same thing with hours worked. You can show up at 8am instead of 9am and get a start on a day if ya want.....not on shift and not paid not wage theft or illegal. Likewise if your shift ends at 3pm and you decide to stay back and help the next crew it's not OT or wage theft because YOU decided. They cannot force you work unpaid overtime but you can do it if you so choose. Before commenting on legality go read them search the ot part for "volunteer" "contract" and others like work permits get a more in depth understanding youll be suprised to know how many variants and nuances there are and you'll be suprised to know that most likely your and 99% of people's understanding of that law is less than 1%

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