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Teen Gets Mad At His Dad For Interrupting His Date To Ask Him To Pick Up His Little Sister, Says He “Failed As A Parent”
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Teen Gets Mad At His Dad For Interrupting His Date To Ask Him To Pick Up His Little Sister, Says He “Failed As A Parent”

Teen Gets Mad At His Dad For Interrupting His Date To Ask Him To Pick Up His Little Sister, Says He Single Dad Asks If He's A Jerk For Interrupting His Son's Date By Asking Him To Pick Up His Little SisterSon Is Mad At His Dad For Interrupting His Date And Asking Him To Pick Up His Little Sister From School“It Wasn’t His Fault I Was Failing As A Parent”: Overworked Single Dad Thinks He Went Overboard By Asking Teen Son To Get His Little Sister Home From SchoolDad Interrupts His Son's Date And Asks Him To Pick His Sister Up From School, Drama EnsuesSingle Dad Interrupts Teenage Son’s Date By Asking Him To Pick Up His Little Sister From School, He Throws A Fit“Am I A Jerk For Interrupting My Son’s Date So He Could Pick Up His Little Sister?”Teen Abandons Little Sister At School After Overworked Dad Calls And Asks Him To Pick Her Up, Throws Angry Fit When He Gets Home
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Recently, a 43-year-old single dad turned to the AITA community on Reddit for a moral judgement.

In a post that amassed 15.7k upvotes and 3.7k comments, the dad explained that he usually picks up his 8-year-old daughter Lisa after school clubs, but one day, he had to stay late at work.

“I did try my best to negotiate out of it but my manager told me that the assignment was to be completed by that night so I just did,” the dad explained.

The only way to collect Lisa was to ask his teen son, who, it turned out, had a very different evening plan.

A single dad wonders if he was wrong to interrupt his teen son’s date so he could pick up his little sister, after the dad got stuck late at work

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Being a single parent is not easy, there’s no doubt about it. But according to the data from the Pew Research Center, a whopping one-quarter of kids in the U.S. live with a single parent, which is the highest rate in the world.

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As you may suspect, the number of single-mother families is much higher with more than 6.3 million or 19.1% of parent-child families.

The same report suggests that the average income for single-father families is $67,405 — a third less than the average for all families where parents raise their children ($101,536). Even so, it’s significantly higher than the average income among single-mother families ($40,500).

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However, a growing body of studies reveal that children are better off raised by a single parent as opposed to living with married parents who conflict a lot. It’s also important to note that despite the initial challenges, children raised by one divorced parent sometimes have better outcomes than children raised by a parent who is remarried.

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Casey McAlister
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The boss is the a*****e. You can't just assign tasks to your employees in the evening and expect them to stay overtime with no prior notice. People have lives beyond their jobs.

Bina Wei
Community Member
1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree that the Boss is the real ahole here. The boss could have allowed OP to pick up his kid and then OP could have continued working. There was no compromise at all.. Edit: Typo.

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censorshipsucks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had my gf s**t on me for fetching my kids... she's not a teenager. She's in her 30s. Some people do not understand the relative roles of family, kids, and partners, and which responsibility comes first.

ToGo
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank goodness! I was preparing for all the "YTA", which would be dead wrong. This man is a single parent. He has asked his son for help in a jam 3 times in 18 months. The son is being a selfish teenager and I hope he grows out of it. I understand that he's 17 and is starting to have his own life but his priorities are terrible. Man, I'd have been so grateful to get use of a car that I'd be happy to run errands as a thanks. I'd have also felt really horrible knowing my young sibling was being left alone with nowhere to go, but that's me. Dad needs to try have a talk with son and son needs a reality check.

Jake VanWagoner
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After the third time I'd say the teen shouldn't lose the car for 3 weeks. I'd say "nope lol I'm selling the car. You've got a chance to buy it but I'm not loaning you the money." The kid is *borrowing* the car and the condition is that he uses it to help out when asked.

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Yoga Kitty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I was the son's girlfriend and we were out celebrating when his dad calls, I would tell the boy to go and pick up his little sister! I would not go on with that date or the whole relationship if he refused. Gives you a good idea what kind of father/partner he will become obe day...

Jake VanWagoner
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A girlfriend like that would be a total keeper. A girlfriend that would act every bit as entitled as Max would be one to dump. I sincerely hope that the girl dumped him as a result of this.

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CNarvaez
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two things here... First, family comes first. I'm glad I work a job where I'd I told my boss "sorry, I have to pickup my kid" he'd maybe ask if I could come in early the next day or finish at home after the kids are in bed if it's urgent. Second, for the teen, I would ask the 16yr for empathy by flipping the situational script.."if you were broken down somewhere bc you ran out of gas and needed a ride, but I was on a date and told you "sorry you are a failure as human because you forgot to fill your tank" and then shut off my phone to finish my date, assuming you'd then call a friend to get you.... who would be the AH in that situation? Sometimes they just need perspective in empathy.

Kathryn Baylis
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mother never learned how to drive (I do not know why). The moment I hit 16 and had my license, guess who got to take Mom grocery shopping (or anywhere else) after school, while Dad was at work? S**t happens. At least this kid didn’t have to be “the other” family chauffeur.

Bina Wei
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We don't know that tbh. Nor do we know if OP has asked or expected help from other things (instead of just pick ups). We do know the Boss is a jerk for not letting OP at least pick up his kid, tho.

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DeMarcus Halliwell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. That bratty kid needs to appreciate his family more. What if something bad happened to his little sister?? If it were a brand new relationship I'd probably understand. But SIX months in??? surely the girlfriend knows about the sister by now! its not like its a 1 year anniversary either; I'm a little surprised this story didn't end with the gf talking some sense into Max and telling him it's okay to take a little break during the date to go grab his sister. I 100% would be okay with my boyfriend going to pick up his YOUNGER siblings that could be stuck with no one else to get them. what the hell is wrong with spoiled brats like Max?

Jake VanWagoner
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, an unseen part of the story is that either the girlfriend dumps Max or it turns it she's just as much of an entitled little $#1+ as Max is.

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Beck
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The day one of my teenagers hangs up on me is the day i do not pay their phone bill for that month. May kids are pretty good and respectful, though. Dont see that happening.

LittleWombat
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed! Basic courtesy to someone who pays your bills should be a given. (Separate issue from picking up his sibling.) I'm not going to pay for a phone for my kid to use to insult me. I'm all for mutual respect, though. If I wouldn't hang up on my kid, I sure expect them to be equally courteous and respectful to me.

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Cindy Sullivan-Lewis
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You did not fail as a parent. It is so hard being a single parent and you did everything right. Work emergencies happen and your son should be expected to step up. I was a latch key kid. I would not wish that on anyone now a days.

SkyBlueandBlack
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, son is TA here. Thing is, though, where I live, 16-year-olds have provisional licenses. They're allowed to drive, but they're not allowed to transport minors, so son wouldn't have been able to pick up sister anyway. Yeah, sometimes things come up, but dad's boss is the other a-hole here -- what he did was a power play, just to show dad who has the power in the office. I had a boss that used to pull this s**t all the time, and since my coworker was a single mom, I got to know her son pretty well. She had to pick him up and come back to the office a couple times a month.

brandyy17
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think thats how it is in most places. i kno where i live its like that unless there is also an adult in the car then a 16 year old can drive with a minor. i honestly cant think of a place where that isnt the case. its all provisional licenses or driving permits. they both come with restrictions.

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Rick Seiden
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boss is TA. Family comes first. If I have to leave to pick up my kid because plans went sideways, it's not an ask, it's information. I'll finish the work later. And if someone who reports to me says they need to pick up their kdi because plans went sideways, I would say family comes first and to let me know if they need any help getting away from their projects.

Rapunzel With The Loced Hair
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live with my parents and I have willingly missed a few days of work and cancelled a few dates to stay home with my young sister (she's 8) when she is sick because I'm the only one who is able to stay home with her at the time. My parents have raised us in the understanding that we are a unit and to keep the machine running smoothly, sometimes we have to step into different roles. I hope to teach my nieces and nephews this one day.

J Silverman
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ridiculous. Family are the people we rely on, lean on for help. The son is entitled and rude! Failing as a parent? Only because your son is entitled and rude! I would take away everything I pay for, including his phone. I would tell him he is right. I am failing as a parent and when he shows that he can be a helpful, productive member of the family and stop acting entitled, he will get his privileges back. You scratch my back, I scratch yours!

Some rando dude
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with you whole heartedly, (that's the correct spelling, yeah?) but family is family. At least, in a perfect world where everyone in a family stays. I don't know how small this family is, limited to the dad and two kids, but I myself am in a small family of five. We're all that we got. And sometimes, you just have to do something for them with or without the promise of a reward.

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Sara Anderson
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh man, I just tell my boss I'm leaving. I don't ask. The file will wait. No one is gonna die if their title commitment is a day late. Seriously managers who have nothing other than their jobs to love are the literal worst part of working in the corporate world.

Rocco MZ
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a good chance he didn't tell his boss he had to pick up Liza. He just assumed his son would take care of it and he needed the overtime. If an adult makes your child feel uncomfortable for ANY reason, trust their instincts and don't make them spend time with them. It doesn't have to be anything criminal or creepy, but trust your child. He's not the AH at all, but I can see why he asked about it here.

Marian Moore
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I had ever made remarks like that to my parent, that would be my last words to be spoken for a long time. I was taught to be respectful and mindful of what I said and who I said it to. My parents never laid a hand on any of us kids. I taught my children the same way.. The PO was correct in how the boy was punished.

Jake VanWagoner
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think he didn't go far enough. After the third time the kid left his sister stranded, I'd have sold the car.

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Jeremy Crocker
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is a 8 y.o. getting out of school so late? The guy said "maths" so I'm guessing he's European but is it normal for kids to get out of school that late? Extra curricular stuff in the US (sports, scouts) are usually out around 4:30-5pm at that age. Even in high school when I took the late bus after club stuff I was home by 5:30pm.

Susie Evans
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go back and actually read the article. He put his daughter in after school programs so she wouldn't be home alone while he was at still at work.

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s0nicfreak
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I guess I'm in the minority... yes the manager is an AH for springing it on OP last minute (if that's what happened), but OP is also an AH for not simply saying "I have to go pick up my daughter, but I'll work on it afterwards" (and for not creating a back-up plan after the first two times). What's the worst the manager can do - say "if you walk out that door, you're fired"? Think about it logically - if the manager did that, the assignment wouldn't get finished. So he's not going to do that. Also the punishment does not seem to be about teaching the son a lesson, it seems to be more about OP being frustrated at the situation, and maybe embarrassed that he got a call. All the son is learning from this is that OP is going to put his unwillingness to say "not right now" to the manager ahead of the son's life.

VegasMade09
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's literally happened 3 times in 18 months. That's not bad. And being a single parent, sometimes we really need that extra money. Again 3 times in 18 months is nothing

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BluEyedSeoulite
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had to pick up my niece many times when I was a teen. People work, things happen. We all pitch in. I'd definitely ground my kid too from using my car if they wouldn't take 30min out of a date to go pick up and drop off a sibling. Plus, dude looks like a major AH to his girlfriend now!

Carole Reid
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I had pulled this, my mother would have kicked my a*s into next week. NTA.

Jo
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boss is an ah, but the sons response is pretty ah as well. Upset is understandable, but that is not

Raccoon Queen
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, NAH, in the future there needs to be a conversation that gives expectations because as a teen I would go but I also have anxiety and would be very upset over having to interrupt something I was excited about for a duty I didn’t know I could have.

Jake VanWagoner
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pretty sure it was explained clearly -- "you can use the car without paying for it, but in exchange you'll have to use it to do favors for me when I can't."

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Madster
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He could have given the son some warning I guess if he knew he might be late, but son was very unhelpful!!

John Smith
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only real a*****e is your boss. Perhaps you are not aware but employers can no longer own slaves. This has been so for a long time.

Martin Ibert
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The son should have turned off his phone after he met up with his girlfriend. That would have solved the issue.

Kristi
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not only NTA, but a saint for not punishing your infantile 17yo more... to tell your single parent they they are failing, to leave him the hell alone, and refuse to help out? I would have have said you are right I have failed.. I should be teaching you more to be an adult. Then take away the car permanently and remind them that once they are 18 and out of high school, they are expected to move out. Clearly you can't depend on this brat to help out occasionally so what's the point of them living there past 18. Focus on your daughter so she doesnt grow up to be this kind of AH.

Sparkle
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have just left to get my kid and then gone back to the office. I understand needing a job, but my kids are more important than anything else. Also, the boss sounds like the one from Office Space. Unreasonable prick. As for the math problem mom...I get it. You can't unbreak a child's spirit, and it's cruel to actively make a child feel stupid by asking things you know they don't know.

Nikole
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The teen sounds like he has some pent up resentment towards his father / family situation. Counseling?

Exotic Butters
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So this dad help from his ungrateful son. Can't get it without an a*s chewing. From his own offspring and that dad can't figure out that so disrespected. This is exactly why true IS is in the toilet

Bloobee bloobee bloo bloo bloo
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a single parent sometimes you have to rely on the oldest kids to help out with the younger ones and it’s the least they can do for the family. My kids have a big age gap with two now being adults and one barely a teen. If I need the older ones to do something for younger one they will do it with no problems. Especially if it’s an emergency situation like what this dad had. Even when the older ones were teens they never gave me a problem about it

Celia Gallardo
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ong when are people going to realize thay need to stop having children? like. yesterday.

Khandnalie E
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, NAH except for the boss. The son could have stepped up, but, well, he's a teenager. There's a few factors that I think make this whole thing reflect less harshly upon the son. First, the op admitted that duties like this had never been discussed before. Second, this was supposed to be a special occasion for him, an anniversary. Just six months, but things like that matter to you when you're 17. Third, the kid is 17. He's right on the division between adult and child. He's not fully developed yet, so you can't come down in him too harsh I think. The real AH is the boss.

The Fan Of Nothing
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Max needs to be back handed, and the boss is a d**k. I wish any of my kids would tell me to go to Hell or ignore me when I ask them for help in an emergency situation like that. Especially with all the freedom Max seems to have.

Mark
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well my brother and sister woukd loom after me occasionally when needed (im the baby of the family) and I'd ask my oldest to occasionally help out with her little sister. There is a big difference between expecting a a sibling to be the makeshift parent and just helping occasionally. The son is a royal moron because it seeks he forgot that his father has been raising them himself which i can say as a single parent (especially a male with full care of rhe kids) those of us with a conscience don't like asking anyone for help but we have no choice. So maybe give the boy a taste of what it'd be like if dad didnt have a job or instead just paid a nanny which costs alot of money since the boy thinks dad should d9 that and im pretty sure the lad would be moaning from the hills about what he can't get while ignoring rhe fact dad cant aff9rd it now because he pays a nanny. Teens are as a rule self absorbed (we were all teens so we all remember being self absorbed in many areas)

Chris Noel
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The boss and the father are a******s. The Boss is for obviously putting work duties over family care. The father for just taking it and passing the buck to his son. The father says he 'asked', well... He was told no. If that is not an answer then he wasn't asking he was demanding, much like the a*****e boss. 2 a******s no adults.

Manda Wilson
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What happened to children doing what their parents tell them to do? Who cares if he was on a date with his gf he's 17 living in your house. You provide food, shelter and an added bonus A CAR!!! When you are a part of a family you help out plane and simple. Teen was being disrespectful and used cop out of his dad failed as a parent, no he failed his 8 year old sister by leaving her stranded. Oh and by the way a childhood friends father scolded me on the amount of scars I had on my legs and that was traumatic, schools over the little girl shouldn't have to be quizzed in math on the ride home, very humiliating SMH.

Heather Wolmarans
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been in his shoes, there's no best option when you are the sole provider, and have to choose between letting your kids down or letting your boss down. In hindsight, I would have left work, fetched my daughter, brought her back to work and finished the job. And that's not ideal for anyone involved.

fu yu
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I loved the response from SweetMercy. Damn, this father has an entitled son who can't be expected to help out running an errand or two and it involves his own sister?? I would HATE living in that household. S**t happens and the son seriously needs to be put in his place. Stupid kid.

Laura Stanciu
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So....this is the father side. We always tend to picture things in a positive light for us. Maybe the son blame him for the divorce, maybe he is not that such a good parent that he paint himself. I love how people judge a teenager but not an adult and they dont go to far and belive only the adult without questioning his story.

NY Rat27
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's kind of what I'm thinking, especially since a lot of people are saying some shade of "my parents would've beaten me so the kid obviously is a POS low life"

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Spalding Monn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree about the boss. Does the boss know OP is a single father? Maybe. Maybe not. I think that OP. dropped the ball on the rules of borrowing the car. I read the comments about how 16 year olds have to be team players etc... however, not every 50 year old has a flexible mind or the ability to switch in the middle of something ... and this kid is 16. Part of the preparation his father could for adulthood is to cover what to do in an emergency - such as, if I can't do it you'll have to pick up your sister bo matter what. And, maybe 3 times a year is not enough for the son to have such a responsibility. Maybe he needs to pick up his sister once per week.

Gavin Johnson
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Teenager acts like teenager shock. Dad is doing his level best to make stuff work, there’s a glitch (these things happen) and son is petulant little bugger ‘cause his plans get messed up by something that’s out of his control. No winners to be seen here. Young adults are allowed to be stroppy, it’s a weird time for them, Dads are allowed to be pissy when the children don’t step up in a difficult time. It’s all about how things get discussed, ‘Son, I’ve been put in an impossible position at work and if you and your girlfriend could save the day I’ll sort out the food delivery for tonight, I know you’d planned a special meal and this messes it up but it’ll be a huge help if you could be the knight in shining armour for me and your little sister, you know I don’t ask unless I really need the help’. Make them the hero of the piece and be humble.

Scrolling Panda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OPs boss is the AH. OP is a parent. He has a responsibility to go collect his kid at the end of the day. The boss can't make him prioritize work over that. OP needs to stand up to that boss and say that he absolutely WILL be leaving to get his kid from school when the need arises. OPs son is not this girl's parent. That being said, OPs son is still a minor, still living with OP, and is enjoying the privilege of using OPs car. If OP occasionally needs something from him involving driving, it is a fair trade off and something the son absolutely should do. The boss is in the wrong for pressing the point, OP is in the wrong for caving (and not MAKING the time to gain a casual relationship with the other parents at the school so he can call one of them in an emergency, like if the daughter needs to be picked up from school but the dad is busy dealing with a problem/accident/legal issue with the son who is driving age--as we all know accidents DO happen) and the son is an AH for not helping.

Cami
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, sometimes you really can't help it. Teenagers will blow up on you if they feel you've interrupted something important to them, it's kind of a part of growing up. It doesn't make you a bad parent, it's just something that happens. Hopefully it's smooth sailing from here on out.

Mason Dalmau
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gonna say soft ESH here. The thing is, what would have happened if you hadn't had a 17yr old to make do it in your stead? He didn't chose to have the daughter, OP did. He didn't sign up to be responsible, OP did. This whole "children have obligations to their families" is BS. Grow a spine and tell your boss that your daughter needs you to pick her up because that is what you would have done if you didn't have the option to dump the responsibility on your son. You had other options, didn't like them, and chose to make your son the one with the problem instead. On the other hand, the kid is borrowing the car. You should reciprocate when being allowed a privilege like that. Secondly, there was no reason to speak to his father that way given the situation.

Best Behave
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dues father mean “3 times I’ve asked son to help” or does he mean “3 times I’ve demanded son drops everything on the rare occasion that he’s not been able to help” Boss is a*sehole here for saying “no, you can’t pick up your 8yo daughter….”

Mine Truly
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell your manager you HAVE to leave because nobody else can pick up your child and it's a family emergency. When you eventually lose your job because it's not flexible enough to accommodate the work-life balance required by the primary caregiver, get a low wage job with flexible hours. Slowly sink into poverty. Lose your home and car. Wind up on welfare while strangers say bad things about you living off their tax dollars. Welcome to the life of a woman.

Sunny Day
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why not go pick up daughter and return to work to finish? I do take exception to the commenter who said the boss should give more leeway to parents of young children - being a parent has nothing to do with the job. Kids/no kids we're all hired to do the same jobs with the same requirements. So, no, parents don't get to duck out early every day to pick up kids, and leave the kid-free employees to work later to get everything done.

Where’s The Shovel?
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's a bit harsh and a bit of an unreasonable attitude. You cannot expect a parent to leave their child on their own. Before you say anything, I don't have kids and I'm a mature adult of 50+ who has worked with many people and different companies all my working life, However I understand that life, well, doesn't always go to plan and life gets in the way sometimes, as long as they don't take the Mickey, it's usually a simple matter of courtesy and no big deal.

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LK
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's an order here. In first place, there's boss. You can not simply spring additional work on someone at no notice. People have lives and responsibilities. In second place, there's the dad for failing to point this out to the boss. His responsibility to his child is higher than the boss. Emergencies will happen, and he needs to have a pool of people he can call on to look after the daughter. He also needs to talk with his son, and get things straight.

Goldeneye
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love how you throw the burden on the son because you aren't able to set a good work/life balance. Your 8yr old should be your priority not your job. And if you are admitting you are prioritizing your job over picking up your daughter how can money still possibly be tight. You need a new job or a reality check. Teenagers aren't going to drop their plans because you can't manage your own. Your an adult grow up

Brenda Wallace
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If finances are so tight why do you have 2 cars? Sell one. Cancel insurance. If son wants to borrow car after you get home he needs a job to buy gas. No money no gas. School lunches cost, make them for both kids. Start looking for a job that pays better and there is no unscheduled overtime. Don’t like it? No time to see adults. Who cares? make it imperative to meet parents and neighbors. Once you do ask if they can help in an emergency. Both your kids must come first. Not just the little one.

Ash
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like Max's behavior didn't just come out of the blue. There has perhaps been a pattern of things that he didn't feel his father should be asking him to do (like stop his anniversary date to do something the father was supposed to be responsible for). The dad may not even realize that Max has been feeling this way. I think they need to sit down and talk it out, and the father needs to explain to Max some of the pressure he's under and what his expectations are for Max going forward. I bet they can work it out.

brandyy17
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

in all honesty i think they r both at fault. the moment the father knew hed have to work late he shouldve contacted his son not at around the time his daughter needed to b picked up. also he shouldve put a little effort into knowing which of liza's friends r in the club and at least getting the numbers of the parents incase this happens. his son is at the age where the whole 6 month anniversary is considered important and means alot more to them then it would to an adult. on the other hand its only the 3rd time hes asked and his son shouldve done wat he asked since its not a common request. it honestly goes both ways. his son is at a critical point in his life and having a serious relationship at that age is good for emotional growth and should b encouraged but bc the OP is a single father the son should have responsibilities other then his girlfriend. fathers fault for not making plans ahead of time incase of emergencies and sons fault for priortizing his girlfriend. every parent should have a back up plan no matter wat. i was a nanny who couldnt drive and i always had multiple plans in place wen i was watching my friends daughter. i always had a neighbor or my parents at the ready incase i needed to take her somewhere since i lived down the street. i wasnt even her parent and i planned for every possibility. bc his son is at the age where he is in a relationship and wants some freedom the father really shouldve considered every possibility. wat wouldve happened if his son wasnt on a date and he was at an after school job? neither of them can leave wat then? wat happens if his son isnt in town bc hes looking at colleges? wat then? these r things that need to b considered wen ur a single parent with a kid that age. i understand its hard but having these questions answered and plans in place would make their lives easier and u wouldnt have situations like this happening. whether its an after school job or a date a 2nd plan should always b in place in case the rare time his son needs to pick up his sister.

Ernest Amoah
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1 year ago

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I am african nd l was brought up to not let my kids dictate to me how dey want to live in my hse.At 16,u tell me u are going on a date nd dat u cant help in de hse.Who gave u de authority to start dating at 16 in de 1st place?Buddy u didnt do anything wrong except maybe u hv given him too much room from de beginning.I dont beat my kids but dey will not dare do dis.

Justin Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And as a human you are trash and need to learn that you dont have complete control of your children cause you are doing as a parent should.

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LonelyLittleLeafSheep
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Sorry, but I'm going with YTA here. It is not the job of the 16 year old to parent the other child. It is the parent's job to parent and he needs to set boundaries with his boss. He could have left work, picked her up, and brought her back to the office to finish his work. Teens are not free childcare for unprepared parents. If you can't handle the unexpected then don't have kids.

Mrs.Pugh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The son isn’t parenting his sister, he’s literally picking her up from school. This is the third time in a year and a half, he’ll be fine. And he did handle the unexpected by asking his son to pick up his sister.

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Casey McAlister
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The boss is the a*****e. You can't just assign tasks to your employees in the evening and expect them to stay overtime with no prior notice. People have lives beyond their jobs.

Bina Wei
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree that the Boss is the real ahole here. The boss could have allowed OP to pick up his kid and then OP could have continued working. There was no compromise at all.. Edit: Typo.

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censorshipsucks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had my gf s**t on me for fetching my kids... she's not a teenager. She's in her 30s. Some people do not understand the relative roles of family, kids, and partners, and which responsibility comes first.

ToGo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank goodness! I was preparing for all the "YTA", which would be dead wrong. This man is a single parent. He has asked his son for help in a jam 3 times in 18 months. The son is being a selfish teenager and I hope he grows out of it. I understand that he's 17 and is starting to have his own life but his priorities are terrible. Man, I'd have been so grateful to get use of a car that I'd be happy to run errands as a thanks. I'd have also felt really horrible knowing my young sibling was being left alone with nowhere to go, but that's me. Dad needs to try have a talk with son and son needs a reality check.

Jake VanWagoner
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After the third time I'd say the teen shouldn't lose the car for 3 weeks. I'd say "nope lol I'm selling the car. You've got a chance to buy it but I'm not loaning you the money." The kid is *borrowing* the car and the condition is that he uses it to help out when asked.

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Yoga Kitty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I was the son's girlfriend and we were out celebrating when his dad calls, I would tell the boy to go and pick up his little sister! I would not go on with that date or the whole relationship if he refused. Gives you a good idea what kind of father/partner he will become obe day...

Jake VanWagoner
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A girlfriend like that would be a total keeper. A girlfriend that would act every bit as entitled as Max would be one to dump. I sincerely hope that the girl dumped him as a result of this.

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CNarvaez
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two things here... First, family comes first. I'm glad I work a job where I'd I told my boss "sorry, I have to pickup my kid" he'd maybe ask if I could come in early the next day or finish at home after the kids are in bed if it's urgent. Second, for the teen, I would ask the 16yr for empathy by flipping the situational script.."if you were broken down somewhere bc you ran out of gas and needed a ride, but I was on a date and told you "sorry you are a failure as human because you forgot to fill your tank" and then shut off my phone to finish my date, assuming you'd then call a friend to get you.... who would be the AH in that situation? Sometimes they just need perspective in empathy.

Kathryn Baylis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mother never learned how to drive (I do not know why). The moment I hit 16 and had my license, guess who got to take Mom grocery shopping (or anywhere else) after school, while Dad was at work? S**t happens. At least this kid didn’t have to be “the other” family chauffeur.

Bina Wei
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We don't know that tbh. Nor do we know if OP has asked or expected help from other things (instead of just pick ups). We do know the Boss is a jerk for not letting OP at least pick up his kid, tho.

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DeMarcus Halliwell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. That bratty kid needs to appreciate his family more. What if something bad happened to his little sister?? If it were a brand new relationship I'd probably understand. But SIX months in??? surely the girlfriend knows about the sister by now! its not like its a 1 year anniversary either; I'm a little surprised this story didn't end with the gf talking some sense into Max and telling him it's okay to take a little break during the date to go grab his sister. I 100% would be okay with my boyfriend going to pick up his YOUNGER siblings that could be stuck with no one else to get them. what the hell is wrong with spoiled brats like Max?

Jake VanWagoner
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, an unseen part of the story is that either the girlfriend dumps Max or it turns it she's just as much of an entitled little $#1+ as Max is.

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Beck
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The day one of my teenagers hangs up on me is the day i do not pay their phone bill for that month. May kids are pretty good and respectful, though. Dont see that happening.

LittleWombat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed! Basic courtesy to someone who pays your bills should be a given. (Separate issue from picking up his sibling.) I'm not going to pay for a phone for my kid to use to insult me. I'm all for mutual respect, though. If I wouldn't hang up on my kid, I sure expect them to be equally courteous and respectful to me.

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Cindy Sullivan-Lewis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You did not fail as a parent. It is so hard being a single parent and you did everything right. Work emergencies happen and your son should be expected to step up. I was a latch key kid. I would not wish that on anyone now a days.

SkyBlueandBlack
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, son is TA here. Thing is, though, where I live, 16-year-olds have provisional licenses. They're allowed to drive, but they're not allowed to transport minors, so son wouldn't have been able to pick up sister anyway. Yeah, sometimes things come up, but dad's boss is the other a-hole here -- what he did was a power play, just to show dad who has the power in the office. I had a boss that used to pull this s**t all the time, and since my coworker was a single mom, I got to know her son pretty well. She had to pick him up and come back to the office a couple times a month.

brandyy17
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think thats how it is in most places. i kno where i live its like that unless there is also an adult in the car then a 16 year old can drive with a minor. i honestly cant think of a place where that isnt the case. its all provisional licenses or driving permits. they both come with restrictions.

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Rick Seiden
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boss is TA. Family comes first. If I have to leave to pick up my kid because plans went sideways, it's not an ask, it's information. I'll finish the work later. And if someone who reports to me says they need to pick up their kdi because plans went sideways, I would say family comes first and to let me know if they need any help getting away from their projects.

Rapunzel With The Loced Hair
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live with my parents and I have willingly missed a few days of work and cancelled a few dates to stay home with my young sister (she's 8) when she is sick because I'm the only one who is able to stay home with her at the time. My parents have raised us in the understanding that we are a unit and to keep the machine running smoothly, sometimes we have to step into different roles. I hope to teach my nieces and nephews this one day.

J Silverman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ridiculous. Family are the people we rely on, lean on for help. The son is entitled and rude! Failing as a parent? Only because your son is entitled and rude! I would take away everything I pay for, including his phone. I would tell him he is right. I am failing as a parent and when he shows that he can be a helpful, productive member of the family and stop acting entitled, he will get his privileges back. You scratch my back, I scratch yours!

Some rando dude
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with you whole heartedly, (that's the correct spelling, yeah?) but family is family. At least, in a perfect world where everyone in a family stays. I don't know how small this family is, limited to the dad and two kids, but I myself am in a small family of five. We're all that we got. And sometimes, you just have to do something for them with or without the promise of a reward.

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Sara Anderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh man, I just tell my boss I'm leaving. I don't ask. The file will wait. No one is gonna die if their title commitment is a day late. Seriously managers who have nothing other than their jobs to love are the literal worst part of working in the corporate world.

Rocco MZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a good chance he didn't tell his boss he had to pick up Liza. He just assumed his son would take care of it and he needed the overtime. If an adult makes your child feel uncomfortable for ANY reason, trust their instincts and don't make them spend time with them. It doesn't have to be anything criminal or creepy, but trust your child. He's not the AH at all, but I can see why he asked about it here.

Marian Moore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I had ever made remarks like that to my parent, that would be my last words to be spoken for a long time. I was taught to be respectful and mindful of what I said and who I said it to. My parents never laid a hand on any of us kids. I taught my children the same way.. The PO was correct in how the boy was punished.

Jake VanWagoner
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think he didn't go far enough. After the third time the kid left his sister stranded, I'd have sold the car.

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Jeremy Crocker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is a 8 y.o. getting out of school so late? The guy said "maths" so I'm guessing he's European but is it normal for kids to get out of school that late? Extra curricular stuff in the US (sports, scouts) are usually out around 4:30-5pm at that age. Even in high school when I took the late bus after club stuff I was home by 5:30pm.

Susie Evans
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go back and actually read the article. He put his daughter in after school programs so she wouldn't be home alone while he was at still at work.

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s0nicfreak
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I guess I'm in the minority... yes the manager is an AH for springing it on OP last minute (if that's what happened), but OP is also an AH for not simply saying "I have to go pick up my daughter, but I'll work on it afterwards" (and for not creating a back-up plan after the first two times). What's the worst the manager can do - say "if you walk out that door, you're fired"? Think about it logically - if the manager did that, the assignment wouldn't get finished. So he's not going to do that. Also the punishment does not seem to be about teaching the son a lesson, it seems to be more about OP being frustrated at the situation, and maybe embarrassed that he got a call. All the son is learning from this is that OP is going to put his unwillingness to say "not right now" to the manager ahead of the son's life.

VegasMade09
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's literally happened 3 times in 18 months. That's not bad. And being a single parent, sometimes we really need that extra money. Again 3 times in 18 months is nothing

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BluEyedSeoulite
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had to pick up my niece many times when I was a teen. People work, things happen. We all pitch in. I'd definitely ground my kid too from using my car if they wouldn't take 30min out of a date to go pick up and drop off a sibling. Plus, dude looks like a major AH to his girlfriend now!

Carole Reid
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I had pulled this, my mother would have kicked my a*s into next week. NTA.

Jo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boss is an ah, but the sons response is pretty ah as well. Upset is understandable, but that is not

Raccoon Queen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, NAH, in the future there needs to be a conversation that gives expectations because as a teen I would go but I also have anxiety and would be very upset over having to interrupt something I was excited about for a duty I didn’t know I could have.

Jake VanWagoner
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pretty sure it was explained clearly -- "you can use the car without paying for it, but in exchange you'll have to use it to do favors for me when I can't."

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Madster
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He could have given the son some warning I guess if he knew he might be late, but son was very unhelpful!!

John Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only real a*****e is your boss. Perhaps you are not aware but employers can no longer own slaves. This has been so for a long time.

Martin Ibert
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The son should have turned off his phone after he met up with his girlfriend. That would have solved the issue.

Kristi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not only NTA, but a saint for not punishing your infantile 17yo more... to tell your single parent they they are failing, to leave him the hell alone, and refuse to help out? I would have have said you are right I have failed.. I should be teaching you more to be an adult. Then take away the car permanently and remind them that once they are 18 and out of high school, they are expected to move out. Clearly you can't depend on this brat to help out occasionally so what's the point of them living there past 18. Focus on your daughter so she doesnt grow up to be this kind of AH.

Sparkle
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have just left to get my kid and then gone back to the office. I understand needing a job, but my kids are more important than anything else. Also, the boss sounds like the one from Office Space. Unreasonable prick. As for the math problem mom...I get it. You can't unbreak a child's spirit, and it's cruel to actively make a child feel stupid by asking things you know they don't know.

Nikole
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The teen sounds like he has some pent up resentment towards his father / family situation. Counseling?

Exotic Butters
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So this dad help from his ungrateful son. Can't get it without an a*s chewing. From his own offspring and that dad can't figure out that so disrespected. This is exactly why true IS is in the toilet

Bloobee bloobee bloo bloo bloo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a single parent sometimes you have to rely on the oldest kids to help out with the younger ones and it’s the least they can do for the family. My kids have a big age gap with two now being adults and one barely a teen. If I need the older ones to do something for younger one they will do it with no problems. Especially if it’s an emergency situation like what this dad had. Even when the older ones were teens they never gave me a problem about it

Celia Gallardo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ong when are people going to realize thay need to stop having children? like. yesterday.

Khandnalie E
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, NAH except for the boss. The son could have stepped up, but, well, he's a teenager. There's a few factors that I think make this whole thing reflect less harshly upon the son. First, the op admitted that duties like this had never been discussed before. Second, this was supposed to be a special occasion for him, an anniversary. Just six months, but things like that matter to you when you're 17. Third, the kid is 17. He's right on the division between adult and child. He's not fully developed yet, so you can't come down in him too harsh I think. The real AH is the boss.

The Fan Of Nothing
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Max needs to be back handed, and the boss is a d**k. I wish any of my kids would tell me to go to Hell or ignore me when I ask them for help in an emergency situation like that. Especially with all the freedom Max seems to have.

Mark
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well my brother and sister woukd loom after me occasionally when needed (im the baby of the family) and I'd ask my oldest to occasionally help out with her little sister. There is a big difference between expecting a a sibling to be the makeshift parent and just helping occasionally. The son is a royal moron because it seeks he forgot that his father has been raising them himself which i can say as a single parent (especially a male with full care of rhe kids) those of us with a conscience don't like asking anyone for help but we have no choice. So maybe give the boy a taste of what it'd be like if dad didnt have a job or instead just paid a nanny which costs alot of money since the boy thinks dad should d9 that and im pretty sure the lad would be moaning from the hills about what he can't get while ignoring rhe fact dad cant aff9rd it now because he pays a nanny. Teens are as a rule self absorbed (we were all teens so we all remember being self absorbed in many areas)

Chris Noel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The boss and the father are a******s. The Boss is for obviously putting work duties over family care. The father for just taking it and passing the buck to his son. The father says he 'asked', well... He was told no. If that is not an answer then he wasn't asking he was demanding, much like the a*****e boss. 2 a******s no adults.

Manda Wilson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What happened to children doing what their parents tell them to do? Who cares if he was on a date with his gf he's 17 living in your house. You provide food, shelter and an added bonus A CAR!!! When you are a part of a family you help out plane and simple. Teen was being disrespectful and used cop out of his dad failed as a parent, no he failed his 8 year old sister by leaving her stranded. Oh and by the way a childhood friends father scolded me on the amount of scars I had on my legs and that was traumatic, schools over the little girl shouldn't have to be quizzed in math on the ride home, very humiliating SMH.

Heather Wolmarans
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been in his shoes, there's no best option when you are the sole provider, and have to choose between letting your kids down or letting your boss down. In hindsight, I would have left work, fetched my daughter, brought her back to work and finished the job. And that's not ideal for anyone involved.

fu yu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I loved the response from SweetMercy. Damn, this father has an entitled son who can't be expected to help out running an errand or two and it involves his own sister?? I would HATE living in that household. S**t happens and the son seriously needs to be put in his place. Stupid kid.

Laura Stanciu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So....this is the father side. We always tend to picture things in a positive light for us. Maybe the son blame him for the divorce, maybe he is not that such a good parent that he paint himself. I love how people judge a teenager but not an adult and they dont go to far and belive only the adult without questioning his story.

NY Rat27
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's kind of what I'm thinking, especially since a lot of people are saying some shade of "my parents would've beaten me so the kid obviously is a POS low life"

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Spalding Monn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree about the boss. Does the boss know OP is a single father? Maybe. Maybe not. I think that OP. dropped the ball on the rules of borrowing the car. I read the comments about how 16 year olds have to be team players etc... however, not every 50 year old has a flexible mind or the ability to switch in the middle of something ... and this kid is 16. Part of the preparation his father could for adulthood is to cover what to do in an emergency - such as, if I can't do it you'll have to pick up your sister bo matter what. And, maybe 3 times a year is not enough for the son to have such a responsibility. Maybe he needs to pick up his sister once per week.

Gavin Johnson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Teenager acts like teenager shock. Dad is doing his level best to make stuff work, there’s a glitch (these things happen) and son is petulant little bugger ‘cause his plans get messed up by something that’s out of his control. No winners to be seen here. Young adults are allowed to be stroppy, it’s a weird time for them, Dads are allowed to be pissy when the children don’t step up in a difficult time. It’s all about how things get discussed, ‘Son, I’ve been put in an impossible position at work and if you and your girlfriend could save the day I’ll sort out the food delivery for tonight, I know you’d planned a special meal and this messes it up but it’ll be a huge help if you could be the knight in shining armour for me and your little sister, you know I don’t ask unless I really need the help’. Make them the hero of the piece and be humble.

Scrolling Panda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OPs boss is the AH. OP is a parent. He has a responsibility to go collect his kid at the end of the day. The boss can't make him prioritize work over that. OP needs to stand up to that boss and say that he absolutely WILL be leaving to get his kid from school when the need arises. OPs son is not this girl's parent. That being said, OPs son is still a minor, still living with OP, and is enjoying the privilege of using OPs car. If OP occasionally needs something from him involving driving, it is a fair trade off and something the son absolutely should do. The boss is in the wrong for pressing the point, OP is in the wrong for caving (and not MAKING the time to gain a casual relationship with the other parents at the school so he can call one of them in an emergency, like if the daughter needs to be picked up from school but the dad is busy dealing with a problem/accident/legal issue with the son who is driving age--as we all know accidents DO happen) and the son is an AH for not helping.

Cami
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, sometimes you really can't help it. Teenagers will blow up on you if they feel you've interrupted something important to them, it's kind of a part of growing up. It doesn't make you a bad parent, it's just something that happens. Hopefully it's smooth sailing from here on out.

Mason Dalmau
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gonna say soft ESH here. The thing is, what would have happened if you hadn't had a 17yr old to make do it in your stead? He didn't chose to have the daughter, OP did. He didn't sign up to be responsible, OP did. This whole "children have obligations to their families" is BS. Grow a spine and tell your boss that your daughter needs you to pick her up because that is what you would have done if you didn't have the option to dump the responsibility on your son. You had other options, didn't like them, and chose to make your son the one with the problem instead. On the other hand, the kid is borrowing the car. You should reciprocate when being allowed a privilege like that. Secondly, there was no reason to speak to his father that way given the situation.

Best Behave
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dues father mean “3 times I’ve asked son to help” or does he mean “3 times I’ve demanded son drops everything on the rare occasion that he’s not been able to help” Boss is a*sehole here for saying “no, you can’t pick up your 8yo daughter….”

Mine Truly
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell your manager you HAVE to leave because nobody else can pick up your child and it's a family emergency. When you eventually lose your job because it's not flexible enough to accommodate the work-life balance required by the primary caregiver, get a low wage job with flexible hours. Slowly sink into poverty. Lose your home and car. Wind up on welfare while strangers say bad things about you living off their tax dollars. Welcome to the life of a woman.

Sunny Day
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why not go pick up daughter and return to work to finish? I do take exception to the commenter who said the boss should give more leeway to parents of young children - being a parent has nothing to do with the job. Kids/no kids we're all hired to do the same jobs with the same requirements. So, no, parents don't get to duck out early every day to pick up kids, and leave the kid-free employees to work later to get everything done.

Where’s The Shovel?
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's a bit harsh and a bit of an unreasonable attitude. You cannot expect a parent to leave their child on their own. Before you say anything, I don't have kids and I'm a mature adult of 50+ who has worked with many people and different companies all my working life, However I understand that life, well, doesn't always go to plan and life gets in the way sometimes, as long as they don't take the Mickey, it's usually a simple matter of courtesy and no big deal.

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LK
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's an order here. In first place, there's boss. You can not simply spring additional work on someone at no notice. People have lives and responsibilities. In second place, there's the dad for failing to point this out to the boss. His responsibility to his child is higher than the boss. Emergencies will happen, and he needs to have a pool of people he can call on to look after the daughter. He also needs to talk with his son, and get things straight.

Goldeneye
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love how you throw the burden on the son because you aren't able to set a good work/life balance. Your 8yr old should be your priority not your job. And if you are admitting you are prioritizing your job over picking up your daughter how can money still possibly be tight. You need a new job or a reality check. Teenagers aren't going to drop their plans because you can't manage your own. Your an adult grow up

Brenda Wallace
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If finances are so tight why do you have 2 cars? Sell one. Cancel insurance. If son wants to borrow car after you get home he needs a job to buy gas. No money no gas. School lunches cost, make them for both kids. Start looking for a job that pays better and there is no unscheduled overtime. Don’t like it? No time to see adults. Who cares? make it imperative to meet parents and neighbors. Once you do ask if they can help in an emergency. Both your kids must come first. Not just the little one.

Ash
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like Max's behavior didn't just come out of the blue. There has perhaps been a pattern of things that he didn't feel his father should be asking him to do (like stop his anniversary date to do something the father was supposed to be responsible for). The dad may not even realize that Max has been feeling this way. I think they need to sit down and talk it out, and the father needs to explain to Max some of the pressure he's under and what his expectations are for Max going forward. I bet they can work it out.

brandyy17
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

in all honesty i think they r both at fault. the moment the father knew hed have to work late he shouldve contacted his son not at around the time his daughter needed to b picked up. also he shouldve put a little effort into knowing which of liza's friends r in the club and at least getting the numbers of the parents incase this happens. his son is at the age where the whole 6 month anniversary is considered important and means alot more to them then it would to an adult. on the other hand its only the 3rd time hes asked and his son shouldve done wat he asked since its not a common request. it honestly goes both ways. his son is at a critical point in his life and having a serious relationship at that age is good for emotional growth and should b encouraged but bc the OP is a single father the son should have responsibilities other then his girlfriend. fathers fault for not making plans ahead of time incase of emergencies and sons fault for priortizing his girlfriend. every parent should have a back up plan no matter wat. i was a nanny who couldnt drive and i always had multiple plans in place wen i was watching my friends daughter. i always had a neighbor or my parents at the ready incase i needed to take her somewhere since i lived down the street. i wasnt even her parent and i planned for every possibility. bc his son is at the age where he is in a relationship and wants some freedom the father really shouldve considered every possibility. wat wouldve happened if his son wasnt on a date and he was at an after school job? neither of them can leave wat then? wat happens if his son isnt in town bc hes looking at colleges? wat then? these r things that need to b considered wen ur a single parent with a kid that age. i understand its hard but having these questions answered and plans in place would make their lives easier and u wouldnt have situations like this happening. whether its an after school job or a date a 2nd plan should always b in place in case the rare time his son needs to pick up his sister.

Ernest Amoah
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1 year ago

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I am african nd l was brought up to not let my kids dictate to me how dey want to live in my hse.At 16,u tell me u are going on a date nd dat u cant help in de hse.Who gave u de authority to start dating at 16 in de 1st place?Buddy u didnt do anything wrong except maybe u hv given him too much room from de beginning.I dont beat my kids but dey will not dare do dis.

Justin Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And as a human you are trash and need to learn that you dont have complete control of your children cause you are doing as a parent should.

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LonelyLittleLeafSheep
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1 year ago

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Sorry, but I'm going with YTA here. It is not the job of the 16 year old to parent the other child. It is the parent's job to parent and he needs to set boundaries with his boss. He could have left work, picked her up, and brought her back to the office to finish his work. Teens are not free childcare for unprepared parents. If you can't handle the unexpected then don't have kids.

Mrs.Pugh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The son isn’t parenting his sister, he’s literally picking her up from school. This is the third time in a year and a half, he’ll be fine. And he did handle the unexpected by asking his son to pick up his sister.

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