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Information About Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is “Misleading,” Olympic Committee Says
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Information About Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Is “Misleading,” Olympic Committee Says

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Algerian boxer Imane Khelif complies with entry regulations set by various ruling entities, the Olympic committee clarified. The new elucidation follows the dangerous misinformation that has been circulating about the athlete amid Italian boxer Angela Carini abandoning facing Imane just 46 seconds into their fight.

“Every person has the right to practice sport without discrimination,” the Olympic committee asserted in an official statement released on Thursday (August 1).

Highlights
  • Algerian boxer Imane Khelif complies with all entry and medical regulations set by ruling entities, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) newly said.
  • IOC assured that allegations of ineligibility against Imane Khelif are baseless and clarified their guidelines.
  • The International Boxing Association (IBA)'s previous disqualification of Imane due to 'elevated testosterone' was sudden and lacked proper procedure.
  • IOC suspended IBA in 2019 due to concerns about governance, corruption, and financial mismanagement.
  • Notable figures spread misinformation about Imane, despite her compliance with all eligibility requirements, and also being born a female.

The committee assured that all athletes participating in the boxing tournament of the 2024 Paris Olympic Games comply with the competition’s eligibility and entry regulations, as well as all applicable medical regulations set by the Paris 2024 Boxing Unit (PBU).

The Paris 2024 Boxing Qualification System was approved by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) executive board and orders the disqualification at a competition if the ringside doctor in charge of the pre-bout medical examination may find that a boxer has exposed open infected skin lesions, severe chronic infections, recent surgery, and significant psychiatric disturbances, among other conditions.

Algerian boxer Imane Khelif complies with entry regulations set by various ruling entities, the Olympic committee clarified

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These rules also applied during the qualification period, including the boxing tournaments of the 2023 European Games, Asian Games, Pan American Games and Pacific Games, the ad hoc 2023 African qualifying tournament in Dakar (SEN) and two world qualifying tournaments held in Busto Arsizio (ITA) and Bangkok (THA) in 2024, which involved a total of 1,471 different boxers from 172 National Olympic Committees (NOCs), the Boxing Refugee Team and Individual Neutral Athletes, and featured over 2,000 qualification bouts, the Committee stated.

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The PBU used the Tokyo 2020 boxing rules as a baseline to develop its regulations for Paris 2024 to minimize the impact on athletes’ preparations and guarantee consistency between Olympic Games. 

While backlash was unveiled regarding the International Boxing Association (IBA)’s regulations being dismissed when it came to allowing alleged ineligible athletes to compete, the Committee reminded the public that its Tokyo 2020 rules were based on the post-Rio 2016 rules.

These rules were in place before the suspension of the IBA by the IOC in 2019 and the subsequent withdrawal of its recognition in 2023.

Image credits: Eurosport

The IOC suspended the IBA in 2019 and eventually withdrew its recognition in 2023 as a result of longstanding concerns about its governance and management. 

These included allegations of corruption and financial mismanagement, which led to a lack of confidence in the organization’s ability to oversee the sport effectively.

The IBA’s judging and refereeing standards in boxing had been controversial, particularly during the Rio 2016 Olympics, where there were numerous allegations of biased and unfair judging. 

Moreover, the IBA faced significant financial difficulties, including large debts. This financial instability was a major concern for the IOC, as it threatened the organization’s ability to function and support the sport at the Olympic level.

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The new elucidation follows the dangerous misinformation that has been circulating about the athlete

Image credits: Eurosport

Despite multiple warnings and the IOC’s demands for reforms, the IBA failed to implement necessary changes to address these issues adequately. The organization’s inability or unwillingness to reform further strained its relationship with the IOC.

“We have seen in reports misleading information about two female athletes competing at the Olympic Games Paris 2024,” the Committee wrote. “The two athletes have been competing in international boxing competitions for many years in the women’s category, including the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020, IBA, World Championships and IBA-sanctioned tournaments.”

It further countered: “These two athletes were the victims of a sudden and arbitrary decision by the IBA. 

“Towards the end of the IBA World Championships in 2023, they were suddenly disqualified without any due process.

“According to the IBA minutes available on their website, this decision was initially taken solely by the IBA Secretary General and CEO.”

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At the time of the decision, a meeting was attended by Abdulmutalim Abakarov, the IBA’s vice president, George A. Yerolimpos, the IBA’s secretary general, and Yury Zaytsev, the IBA’s CEO.

“The IBA Board only ratified it afterward and only subsequently requested that a procedure to follow in similar cases in the future be established and reflected in the IBA Regulations,” the Committee explained. “The minutes also say that the IBA should ‘establish a clear procedure on gender testing.’”

The IOC concluded: “The current aggression against these two athletes is based entirely on this arbitrary decision, which was taken without any proper procedure – especially considering that these athletes had been competing in top-level competition for many years.

The IOC finally stated it was “saddened by the abuse that the two athletes are currently receiving.”

This follows Italian boxer Angela Carini abandoning facing Imane just 46 seconds into their fight

Image credits: DD_Geopolitics

Algeria’s Imane Khelif and Taiwan’s Lin Yu-ting are the two athletes who have been cleared to compete in women’s boxing at the Paris Olympics but faced bigoted backlash after being stripped of titles and disqualified from the IBA.

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The IBA stripped Lin of her World Championships bronze medal in the March 2023 event after failing a gender eligibility test, and it also disqualified Imane in New Delhi for failing a testosterone level test.

No further details were given on why the boxers were disqualified from last year’s World Championships, the BBC reported on Tuesday (July 30).

Both athletes competed at the delayed Olympic Games in Tokyo in 2021, and Lin is a two-time winner at the Asian Women’s Amateur Boxing Championships.

“These athletes have competed many times before for many years, they haven’t just suddenly arrived – they competed in Tokyo,” IOC spokesman Mark Adams said on Tuesday.

He added: “The federation needs to make the rules to make sure that there is fairness but at the same time there is the ability for everyone to take part that wants to. That is a difficult balance.

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“In the end, the experts for each sport are the people who work in that. 

“If there is a big advantage that clearly is not acceptable, but that needs to be a decision made at that level.”

The International Boxing Association, dismissed by the Olympics partially due to corruption, previously disqualified Imane

Image credits: imane_khelif_10

Controversy erupted on Thursday after Italy’s Angela Carini quit just 46 seconds into her round-of-16 bout with Imane after the Algerian landed the first clean punch of the fight. 

Angela immediately turned to her team and opted against continuing, and the Italian soon collapsed to her knees in tears, The Independent reported on Friday (August 2).

The 25-year-old Italian could reportedly be heard telling her coach, “It’s not right, it’s not right,” and she later told reporters that she had never been hit so hard in her career.

Angela subsequently refused to shake Imane’s hand after she was announced as the winner in Paris.

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The moment quickly turned viral on social media, with notable transphobic figures using Angela’s loss as an example of “trans people hijacking women’s sports.” 

J.K Rowling, known to spread misinformation on trans issues, called the 25-year-old athlete a “man” on X (formerly known as Twitter) despite the fact that Imane was born a woman and has never identified as anything other than a cisgender woman.

Famous YouTuber Logan Paul issued an apology on Thursday after calling the fight between Angela and Imane “The purest form of evil unfolding right before our eyes.” 

At the time, he also misgendered the Algerian athlete, writing: “A man was allowed to beat up a woman on a global stage, crushing her life’s dream while fighting for her deceased father. 

“This delusion must end.”

Imane is next scheduled to fight Team Hungary’s Anna Luca Hamori at the 2024 Paris Olympic Games on Saturday (3 August)

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Upon learning that Imane had never been assigned male at birth and has never identified as a man, the 29-year-old internet star wrote on X: “I might be guilty of spreading misinformation along with the entirety of this app.

“Although she’s been previously disqualified for failing a ‘gender test’ and has XY chromosomes, some sources say Imane Khelif was born a biological woman. 

“I stand by my sentiment that biological men should not compete against biological women in any sport and if you disagree you’re a sick f**k.”

Although there is no evidence to suggest that Imane was born anything other than a cisgender woman, and the IBA has not released more details about the tests she has failed, there have been many misconceptions circulating about identities and sex following Imane’s fight against Angela.

Image credits: imane_khelif_10

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Sex can be much more complicated than it first seems, Scientific American wrote in 2018. According to the simple scenario, the presence or absence of a Y chromosome is what counts: with it, you are male, and without it, you are female. 

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But doctors have long known that some people straddle the boundary—their sex chromosomes say one thing, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) or sexual anatomy say another, the outlet reported. 

These kinds of conditions are known as intersex conditions or differences or disorders of sex development (DSDs).

When genetics is taken into consideration, the boundary between the sexes becomes even blurrier. 

Irish boxing champion Amy Broadhurst, who beat Imane in 2022, defended the Algerian athlete on social media

Image credits: amybroadhurst12

Scientists have reportedly identified many of the genes involved in the main forms of DSD and have uncovered variations in these genes that have subtle effects on a person’s anatomical or physiological sex. 

What’s more, new technologies in DNA sequencing and cell biology are revealing that almost everyone is, to varying degrees, a patchwork of genetically distinct cells, some with a sex that might not match that of the rest of their body, Scientific American stated.

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Some studies even suggest that the sex of each cell drives its behavior through a complicated network of molecular interactions. 

“I think there’s much greater diversity within male or female, and there is certainly an area of overlap where some people can’t easily define themselves within the binary structure,” John Achermann, who studies sex development and endocrinology at University College London’s Institute of Child Health, said.

Image credits: Irish Athletic Boxing Association

Irish boxing champion Amy Broadhurst, who beat Imane in 2022, defended the Algerian athlete on social media.

Taking to her X page on Wednesday (July 31), Amy wrote: “Have a lot of people texting me over Imane Khelif. 

“Personally I don’t think she has done anything to ‘cheat’. 

“I [think] it’s the way she was born & that’s out of her control. 

“The fact that she has been [beaten] by 9 females before says it all.”

The Olympic Committee addressed the IBA’s “sudden” decision to disqualify Imane in 2023

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Imane grew up in a rural village in Tiaret in western Algeria, where she was introduced to boxing after being forced to defend herself against boys picking fights with her, UNICEF reported in March 2024.

The athlete struggled financially and training for boxing came as a challenge, as she was unable to ask her father, who, besides being away working in the Sahara desert as a welder, did not approve of boxing for girls, UNICEF wrote.

Upon being honored as a UNICEF national ambassador, Imane stated: “I am deeply honored to be an ambassador for UNICEF. 

“My message to young people is to follow your dreams. 

“Don’t let obstacles come in your way, resist any obstacles and overcome them. 

Image credits: amybroadhurst12

“My dream is to win a gold medal. If I win, mothers and fathers can see how far their children can go. 

“I particularly want to inspire girls and children who are disadvantaged in Algeria.”

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Imane is next scheduled to fight Team Hungary’s Anna Luca Hamori at the 2024 Paris Olympic Games on Saturday (3 August) at 5:22 pm CET. 

“I’m not scared,” Anna told reporters on Thursday. “I don’t care about the press story and social media. If she or he is a man, it will be a bigger victory for me if I win.”

Sex can be much more complicated than it first seems, Scientific American wrote in 2018

The 23-year-old Hungarian athlete said she had avoided learning much about the controversy as it would be a distraction in her quest for gold, stating: “I’m trying to not use my phone before the fight.

“I don’t want to care about the comments or the story or the news. 

“I just want to stay focused on myself. I did it before my last two fights, so I think this is the key, and we will see.”

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Image credits: Focus Taiwan (CNA English News)

Anna reportedly found it hard to understand Angela’s decision to quit, as she said: “It was her choice, I don’t understand, because I thought every boxer’s mind is the same like mine, to never give up. 

“But it was her choice. We don’t know what was the reason. It’s her life, but I know I want to do this in my own life.”

Taiwan’s Lin Yu-ting is scheduled to fight Uzbekistan’s Sitora Turdibekova at 3:30 pm CET on Friday (2 August) in a round-of-16 bout at 57kg.

“She’s perfectly eligible to compete in women’s sports,” a person commented on social media

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ConstantlyJon
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, I don't talk about this a lot, but in the past few years I've learned I have Klinefelter's syndrome. That means that I'm a man with XXY chromosomes. It also means I do not produce testosterone at all. My wife and I found this out when we were trying to have a baby. After 2 years, I visited my urologist, and found out I likely cannot biologically have children. Now I take testosterone shots every 2 weeks because no testosterone can cause a slew of other health problems, but we've given up on having another kid unless science miracles one up. Regardless, there may be some people who look at the extra X and think "oh that must mean you're a girl then." Except for the whole being a man in every other way part. I don't think we can define gender by hormones. The same should apply here. On another note, shame on BP for being a part of the problem here and then trying to backpedal and make a whole article about "oh no, everyone is spreading misinformation" after they just spread it here.

ConstantlyJon
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

https://www.boredpanda.com/women-boxer-quits-olympic-against-biologically-male-opponent/ This article still exists in its entirety. If BP was so serious about not spreading misinformation, they would remove it. But it has a lot of comments on it, so they won't, because clicks are more important.

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Caro Caro
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is a woman, has been beaten before. Leave her alone FFS.

Carolyn Bedford
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, she's a male with different sex development disorder. This has been proven in 3 separate karyotype tests.

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Nils Skirnir
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe we test all the boys who develop early for testosterone and make them play in older groups too. (Snark) This whole thing is ignorant as folks develop differently and there’s a lot more variation in humans than we thought. Btw she’s supposedly trisomy X, which is XXXY.

Bisha Moten
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You'll likely be surprised to find out that they DO test boys who develop early for testosterone production, and have, in the past, required them to play in older groups.

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Phil Boswell
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did they mention the bit about the Russian-backed IBA only disqualifying Khelif after she beat a Russian boxer? Up to that point they were quite happy to let her compete…

Guess Undheit
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The "iba" is a corrupt russian-controlled organization, not a sporting body. It is the Andrew Wakefield of boxing. [ https://www.reuters.com/sports/international-boxing-association-is-stripped-its-recognition-ioc-2023-06-22/ ]

Christopher Bowers
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay, since she was born as a woman then yes, she has every right to fight against other women in her division. They have been a lot of women that can throw heavy hands and have even trained and fought men too over the years. Look at UFC/Strikeforce fighters like Cris Cyborg, Kat Zingano, Liz Carmouche, Amanda Nunes and Holy Holm. They are some tough badass women in this world that can compete at high levels due to their genetics and training. So give ones like this a break, because even those ones I just mentioned have too been beaten several times.

Carolyn Bedford
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She wasn't born as a woman. Three separate karyotype tests confirmed Imane has XY chromosomes. This means she is a biological male who was mistaken for a female at birth. She has a condition called 5-ARD DSD.

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Bernd Herbert
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe even more than others, given the fact in which part of the world she grew up in with her condition

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XenoMurph
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(Edit: Please disregard my comment, it was uninformed and illinformed as to this particular person, apologies. I won't delete it though, for clarity and full openness.) Trans people deserve compassion, understanding and freedom from prejudice. But that does not even the palying field in sports or physical equality. The numbers of trans women in the population vs the numbers in elite sport shows they have an unfair advantage, and therefore should not be included in the biological female category. That does not mean we can demean them, insult them, or disparage them.

Moosy Girl
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don’t disagree with what you said, but this article isn’t about trans women. It’s about Imane Khelif, a woman (or biological female as you say) who is now being falsely accused of being trans or a man by half the internet.

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Vivi Pettiss
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's fine to quit. It has nothing to do with the hormone imbalances. If she felt she took a hit that could be dangerous, she was brave for stopping. No matter how weak or strong your opponent is, no matter how high stakes the match, your life is NEVER worth a medal.

Looz-ashae
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

>What is your opinion on the reaction of Angela Carini quitting her match against Imane Khelif 46 seconds in? --- Lol, such a biased question

Remi (He/Him)
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah. Boxer quitting if they get disoriented after a hit or realizing they're outmatched is the responsible thing to do which the Italian did. That has nothing to do with the Algerian's right to compete, which is quite straight forward as she's female with no extra testosterone even with that chromosome disorder.

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Donkeywheel
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4 months ago (edited)

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Some additional information : she/he is not a trans, she/he never chose to alter her/his body in any way. She/he was born intersex (generic word that includes many different conditions) with mainly female genitalia but XY chromosomes. Also, one must not use the pronouns they/them because they define a choice of gender but here this is absolutely not a question of gender. Medically she/he can be considered both gender depending on the criteria and no, there is no absolute definition, genotype vs phenotype(s). In the end, she/he probably shouldn’t compete in women’s competitions because there is definitely an unfair advantage but the scientific reality is clear : she/he is not definitely a man or a woman and she/he is not in any way responsible for this situation.

Bernd Herbert
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There have been and always will be people with physical advantages over others. Where are you going to draw the line? In the article Michael Phelps is mentioned. Should he have been disqualified too, because of his advantages over other swimmers? What about the brilliant East-African runners? They surely have a genetic advantage over others

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Looz-ashae
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4 months ago (edited)

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A good old intersex on chemicals beating s**t out of women for money and being disqualified for it now and then. Nothing to see here, move along.

ConstantlyJon
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, I don't talk about this a lot, but in the past few years I've learned I have Klinefelter's syndrome. That means that I'm a man with XXY chromosomes. It also means I do not produce testosterone at all. My wife and I found this out when we were trying to have a baby. After 2 years, I visited my urologist, and found out I likely cannot biologically have children. Now I take testosterone shots every 2 weeks because no testosterone can cause a slew of other health problems, but we've given up on having another kid unless science miracles one up. Regardless, there may be some people who look at the extra X and think "oh that must mean you're a girl then." Except for the whole being a man in every other way part. I don't think we can define gender by hormones. The same should apply here. On another note, shame on BP for being a part of the problem here and then trying to backpedal and make a whole article about "oh no, everyone is spreading misinformation" after they just spread it here.

ConstantlyJon
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

https://www.boredpanda.com/women-boxer-quits-olympic-against-biologically-male-opponent/ This article still exists in its entirety. If BP was so serious about not spreading misinformation, they would remove it. But it has a lot of comments on it, so they won't, because clicks are more important.

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Caro Caro
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is a woman, has been beaten before. Leave her alone FFS.

Carolyn Bedford
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, she's a male with different sex development disorder. This has been proven in 3 separate karyotype tests.

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Nils Skirnir
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe we test all the boys who develop early for testosterone and make them play in older groups too. (Snark) This whole thing is ignorant as folks develop differently and there’s a lot more variation in humans than we thought. Btw she’s supposedly trisomy X, which is XXXY.

Bisha Moten
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You'll likely be surprised to find out that they DO test boys who develop early for testosterone production, and have, in the past, required them to play in older groups.

Load More Replies...
Phil Boswell
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did they mention the bit about the Russian-backed IBA only disqualifying Khelif after she beat a Russian boxer? Up to that point they were quite happy to let her compete…

Guess Undheit
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The "iba" is a corrupt russian-controlled organization, not a sporting body. It is the Andrew Wakefield of boxing. [ https://www.reuters.com/sports/international-boxing-association-is-stripped-its-recognition-ioc-2023-06-22/ ]

Christopher Bowers
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay, since she was born as a woman then yes, she has every right to fight against other women in her division. They have been a lot of women that can throw heavy hands and have even trained and fought men too over the years. Look at UFC/Strikeforce fighters like Cris Cyborg, Kat Zingano, Liz Carmouche, Amanda Nunes and Holy Holm. They are some tough badass women in this world that can compete at high levels due to their genetics and training. So give ones like this a break, because even those ones I just mentioned have too been beaten several times.

Carolyn Bedford
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She wasn't born as a woman. Three separate karyotype tests confirmed Imane has XY chromosomes. This means she is a biological male who was mistaken for a female at birth. She has a condition called 5-ARD DSD.

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Bernd Herbert
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe even more than others, given the fact in which part of the world she grew up in with her condition

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XenoMurph
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(Edit: Please disregard my comment, it was uninformed and illinformed as to this particular person, apologies. I won't delete it though, for clarity and full openness.) Trans people deserve compassion, understanding and freedom from prejudice. But that does not even the palying field in sports or physical equality. The numbers of trans women in the population vs the numbers in elite sport shows they have an unfair advantage, and therefore should not be included in the biological female category. That does not mean we can demean them, insult them, or disparage them.

Moosy Girl
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don’t disagree with what you said, but this article isn’t about trans women. It’s about Imane Khelif, a woman (or biological female as you say) who is now being falsely accused of being trans or a man by half the internet.

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Vivi Pettiss
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's fine to quit. It has nothing to do with the hormone imbalances. If she felt she took a hit that could be dangerous, she was brave for stopping. No matter how weak or strong your opponent is, no matter how high stakes the match, your life is NEVER worth a medal.

Looz-ashae
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

>What is your opinion on the reaction of Angela Carini quitting her match against Imane Khelif 46 seconds in? --- Lol, such a biased question

Remi (He/Him)
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah. Boxer quitting if they get disoriented after a hit or realizing they're outmatched is the responsible thing to do which the Italian did. That has nothing to do with the Algerian's right to compete, which is quite straight forward as she's female with no extra testosterone even with that chromosome disorder.

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Donkeywheel
Community Member
4 months ago (edited)

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

Some additional information : she/he is not a trans, she/he never chose to alter her/his body in any way. She/he was born intersex (generic word that includes many different conditions) with mainly female genitalia but XY chromosomes. Also, one must not use the pronouns they/them because they define a choice of gender but here this is absolutely not a question of gender. Medically she/he can be considered both gender depending on the criteria and no, there is no absolute definition, genotype vs phenotype(s). In the end, she/he probably shouldn’t compete in women’s competitions because there is definitely an unfair advantage but the scientific reality is clear : she/he is not definitely a man or a woman and she/he is not in any way responsible for this situation.

Bernd Herbert
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There have been and always will be people with physical advantages over others. Where are you going to draw the line? In the article Michael Phelps is mentioned. Should he have been disqualified too, because of his advantages over other swimmers? What about the brilliant East-African runners? They surely have a genetic advantage over others

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Looz-ashae
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4 months ago (edited)

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A good old intersex on chemicals beating s**t out of women for money and being disqualified for it now and then. Nothing to see here, move along.

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