Yes, when all of your knowledge is based on helping white people, it may not work for non-white people (think drug response tied to prevalent genetic polymorphisms). That’s systemic racism, not racist doctors. Here’s a great New England Journal of Medicine article that explains this: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2029562 It’s called “Race and Genetic Ancestry in Medicine — A Time for Reckoning with Racism.”

It’s really based on white men. I literally almost passed out in my doctor’s office and he still tried to convince my mother that there was absolutely nothing wrong with me.

I've been in health-care for 30 years and have NEVER experienced any of this. I do believe there is systemic racism on some level.

It's interesting that you think that only black families live in poor areas. In addition, genetics are said to play a part in premature babies and I don't see how that can be down to racism. I abhor racism but I'm tired of people shouting 'racism' whenever the chips don't fall their way.

Please cite where I said that only Black families live in poor areas. I said that the wealth of the median Black family in the U.S. is 1/10 the wealth of the median white family. We have to acknowledge that there's a connection between wealth and health. We also have to acknowledge that there's a connection between wealth and race (due to racism). Ergo, there is a connection between health and racism. Here's an article that looks at premature births specifically. "The growing evidence that racism-related stress contributes to these inequities in premature birth accounts for some of the dynamics that earlier studies couldn’t unravel." https://www.prb.org/resources/high-premature-birth-rates-among-u-s-black-women-may-reflect-the-stress-of-racism-and-health-and-economic-factors/

I was talking about African American babies so I naturally assumed that your comment was related to that. Sorry if I misread it.

I was talking about Black babies, and I was talking about wealth. Wealth impacts health. The median Black family has 1/10 the wealth of the median white family. That's because of racism. (Think about it. Inheritance plays a lot into white wealth, and for generations, Black people were largely barred from gaining wealth. Ditto family businesses and loans, etc. The impact of those decisions from a generation or two ago still impact families today.) That doesn't mean that ALL Black people are poor. It also doesn't mean that NO white people can be poor. It just means that Black people face higher rates of poverty than white people because of systemic racism. That impacts lots of things -- including health.

I agree that poverty is a huge factor in peoples lives but I can't agree with calling healthcare racist. The Hippocratic Oath goes a long way to prevent this.

Healthcare is racist. That doesn't mean every doctor and nurse seeks out to maliciously discriminate. It's usually way more subtle and more systemic than that. Here's a list of over a dozen examples: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/racism-in-healthcare

Thank-you for your recommendations. Poor white people and hispanics also live in poor areas. As far as I am aware there haven't been any lynchings since 1913 so I don't see the relevance of that point. I am against racism in all its forms but I am also against crying 'racism' at the drop of a hat. It weakens the power of the word and people are less likely to take it seriously when it does happen.

The last historical lynching in my state of the US happened in 1920. On June 15, 1920, three African-American circus workers, Elias Clayton, Elmer Jackson, and Isaac McGhie, suspects in an assault case, were taken from the jail and lynched by a white mob of thousands in Duluth, Minnesota. People took pictures and brought their children to take photos with the mutilated corpses. Modern lynchings happen too, people just don't make it a big community celebration. A few examples are George Floyd, Ahmad Aubry, Daunte Wright (which happened right in my neighborhood), and Treyvon Martin. There are many, many, many more. I hope you'll do the work to educate yourself so you'll stop spouting hurtful s**t that minimizes the racism all around us. You need to read, listen to some podcasts (like "Black History for White People" or "Codeswitch"), and you need to realize that just because you don't see it or it doesn't affect you directly doesn't mean it's not happening.

I am sorry that you are offended by my comments. That was not the intention but I am tired of people shouting 'racism' at the drop of a hat. A lynching is where a group of people kill someone for an alleged offence without a trial usually by hanging. You said yourself that the last lynching took place in 1920 but then go on to refer to 'modern lynchings'. Are we changing the narrative to fit the facts or are we changing the facts to fit the narrative?

"A lynching is where a group of people kill someone for an alleged offence without a trial." Okay. Mulugeta Seraw was murdered in my city in 1988 by three white supremacists for being Black. Stephen Lawrence was murdered in London in 1993 by a group of people for being Black. Larnell Bruce was murdered in Oregon in 2016 by white supremacists for being Black. There are sadly many more examples. By your own definition, these are lynchings. We've adopted the idea that lynchings were only in the past and today we're somehow immune from that. In reality, that's simply not true.

Again, lynchings still happen they're just not a public celebration anymore. Quit arguing semantics and educate yourself. Minimizing racism is disgraceful. This conversation is over until you do some work on yourself. You're nitpicking about wording because deep down maybe you know your argument is biased toward your experience only. Have some compassion and empathy, and again EDUCATE YOURSELF!!!!!

I am doing the opposite of minimising racism. I am trying to reserve the term 'racism' for occasions that truly deserve it rather than just calling everything racist when it isn't. By claiming racism where there is none diminishes the power of the word. That is ALL that I am against. I hate racism and I am well educated thank-you very much. PS. I am not nitpicking I am simply responding to the words put in front of me. If you don't want me to react to those words then don't type them. Simple.

You're the definition of a Karen. Goodbye.

What do you call George Floyd's murder if not a lynching? Read the books. Squilmo was trying to help you.

A lynching is an informal public execution by a mob. George Floyd was a criminal and died whilst being detained by the police because he was suspected of a crime. His death was unfortunate and a crime and the perpetrator was rightly punished for it. If you think that was a lynching then it isn't me that needs to read a book.

He was suspected of paying with false bills. Nobody deserves to die for something like that, a fine or even a simple warning would have been punishment enough for a first-time offense.

Oh Dave. There's a difference between income and wealth. I didn't say income. I said wealth. Wealth looks as assets minus debts, and the median white family has WAY more assets than the median Black family. There's no making up numbers here. Here are the stats, current as of 2020: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/02/27/examining-the-black-white-wealth-gap/

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is there a higher white population? that is something to look at

Median, Kimberly. Median is when you take all the numbers, put them in order, and look at the middle number. It's not swayed by how many people there are or outliers who have far more or far less than everyone else. The median wealth of a Black family in the U.S. is $17,150. The median wealth of a white family in the U.S. is $171,000.

that is 100% false. THere is not a single ethnic group that has an average earning for a family over 115k a year, and the top three groups are not white either. Further the average Black Family earns around 35k a year. Yes poverty is higher in the black community, but Jamaicans are among the highest earning. There are many factors and dumbing it down to race hurts, not helps. Further making up numbers doesnt help either.

Oh Dave. There's a difference between income and wealth. I didn't say income. I said wealth. Wealth looks as assets minus debts, and the median white family has WAY more assets than the median Black family. There's no making up numbers here. Here are the stats, current as of 2020: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/02/27/examining-the-black-white-wealth-gap/

So it’s just a coincidence that black families were stuck for generations in red-lined neighborhoods, unable to buy homes because they were refused loans that similarly qualified white families were given? Who drew those red lines, and for what purpose? Hint: the lines were drawn because the people were black, and they remained poor because of the lines. There’s your literal red line drawn from race to class.

Now, here, i am utterly 100% with you. institutions have baked in racism. That the literature still had/has this is absolutely horrifying

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I have never read that or been taught that, or even seen anyone demonstrate that belief.

“You can use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true!”

Oh lord, it is implied that part of research is VETTING YOUR SOURCES!!

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Research can be used to support any belief you have.

Sure thing, Whoda. Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night.

You have the patience of a saint!

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Please provide an example when you have seen or experienced racism in Healthcare. Give a specific antecdote.

Here are over a dozen examples: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/racism-in-healthcare