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Manipulative In-Laws Refuse To Leave After Showing Up Uninvited, Their Son Doesn’t Give In And Gets The Police To Remove Them From The Property
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Manipulative In-Laws Refuse To Leave After Showing Up Uninvited, Their Son Doesn’t Give In And Gets The Police To Remove Them From The Property

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The boundaries you set with all the people in your life are only as effective as your ability to enforce them. Though they might become more or less flexible depending on whether you’re dealing with strangers or loved ones, at the end of the day, healthy relationships demand that you have some sort of boundaries in place.

Privacy, space, and respect are essential for people to thrive. Some folks go to (seemingly) extreme lengths to protect these things. Redditor u/thatemobemo turned to the AITA online community for their opinion on a very delicate situation. She and her husband called the police after her in-laws dropped by to visit them, unannounced. The author of the post wanted to see if the AITA crowd thought she did anything wrong.

Scroll down for the full story, dear Pandas! Once you’ve gotten through everything, we’d love to hear your take on this. Do you think the OP was well within their rights to call law enforcement? Or did they go too far? What would you have done in this exact situation? Share your thoughts in the comment section.

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    A woman asked the internet for a verdict on how she and her husband dealt with her in-laws, who dropped by to visit, unannounced

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    One point that definitely can’t be stressed enough is the fact that absolutely everyone is aware of the couple’s rule that you have to contact them before visiting. “My husband and I have a very strict rule of if you don’t call, or text us before you come over you’re made to leave. This has been a fact since we got married and had kids. This applies to both sides of the family,” she wrote in her post.

    While that might sound overly strict and unfriendly to some internet users, others might recognize the fact that some people simply enjoy clear communication and loathe surprises. Moreover, strict boundaries like this one indicate that these boundaries may have been violated time and time again in the past. Hence the need for them. Different people set different expectations for these things.

    Long story short, the in-laws drove for an hour to visit their granddaughter… who was away at the OP’s mom’s house. Had the in-laws contacted the couple, they might have learned that and wouldn’t have had to make the long trip. Instead, fully aware of the rules the couple has in place, the in-laws made the trip and then refused to leave. The mother-in-law even tried to prevent the door from being shut by using her foot.

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    That’s when the OP’s husband got in touch with the sheriff. Law enforcement arrived and they removed his parents, the post author’s in-laws, from the property. Very much in accordance to the ‘No trespassing’ sign that they have out front.

    The vast majority of the AITA community stood up for u/thatemobemo, saying she had every right to do what she did. Especially since the in-laws were definitely aware of the ‘No call, no text? Leave!’ rule. Some redditors pointed out that there’s probably more to the story for why the rule exists at all.

    Dating expert Dan Bacon, from The Modern Man, previously spoke to Bored Panda about the need for healthy boundaries in relationships, as well as other areas of life.

    “If one person comes up with a boundary or rule in a relationship, it is then up to the other person to decide whether they want to adapt to that, or defy it,” he said.

    “Sometimes a boundary or a rule that someone comes up with is unnecessary or unfair, so boundaries or rules aren’t something that automatically need to be followed by people in a relationship.” The expert noted that it’s rarely the case where one person/side in any relationship is completely right or wrong. There’s usually more context and a broader story.

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    “So, if you have a personal boundary that you don’t want to be crossed, then you should bring it up, but if the other person doesn’t accept it or adapt to it, then you need to consider whether or not your boundary is necessary, or if the other person doesn’t respect and love you enough to adapt and change,” he explained.

    “If your boundary is necessary and fair, but the other person is never willing to adapt to it, they either don’t love and respect you enough,” the expert said that this might also indicate the relationship (whether romantic or otherwise) isn’t long-term.

    Most internet users stood in support of what the OP and her husband did. Here’s their reasoning


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    However, some folks thought that this was a massive overreaction on the couple’s part

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    Storytelling, journalism, and art are a core part of who I am. I've been writing and drawing ever since I could walk—there is nothing else I'd rather do. My formal education, however, is focused on politics, philosophy, and economics because I've always been curious about the gap between the ideal and the real. At work, I'm a Senior Writer and I cover a broad range of topics that I'm passionate about: from psychology and changes in work culture to healthy living, relationships, and design. In my spare time, I'm an avid hiker and reader, enjoy writing short stories, and love to doodle. I thrive when I'm outdoors, going on small adventures in nature. However, you can also find me enjoying a big mug of coffee with a good book (or ten) and entertaining friends with fantasy tabletop games and sci-fi movies.

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    Storytelling, journalism, and art are a core part of who I am. I've been writing and drawing ever since I could walk—there is nothing else I'd rather do. My formal education, however, is focused on politics, philosophy, and economics because I've always been curious about the gap between the ideal and the real. At work, I'm a Senior Writer and I cover a broad range of topics that I'm passionate about: from psychology and changes in work culture to healthy living, relationships, and design. In my spare time, I'm an avid hiker and reader, enjoy writing short stories, and love to doodle. I thrive when I'm outdoors, going on small adventures in nature. However, you can also find me enjoying a big mug of coffee with a good book (or ten) and entertaining friends with fantasy tabletop games and sci-fi movies.

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    Gabija is a photo editor at Bored Panda. Before joining the team, she achieved a Professional Bachelor degree in Photography and has been working as a freelance photographer since. She also has a special place in her heart for film photography, movies and nature.

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    Carol Emory
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother had the same rule. If you did not call first before coming over, you were not let in. I thought she was being unreasonable until I moved out with my husband and son. With my husband working and me taking care of an autistic child on my own, there was not a lot of quiet time for me and my husband to have to ourselves or as a couple. So when my brother would drop by with the whole family to visit, I kindly turned him away. He told me he played that game with mom and he wouldn't play it with me. I said "It's not a game, it's called you having respect for my time enough to find out if I am even up to having company. If you don't call, you will not be let in." He called after that.

    MimSorensson
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s not even about the circumstances, really; if you draw a line people don’t get to cross it - they shouldn’t WANT to cross it. It’s about basic respect and acceptable adult human behaviour, at least that’s how I see it.

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    Raine Soo
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All I can say is: the husband stuck by his wife, and told his parents to observe the rule, and leave. How many times does the other spouse make exceptions for his/her side of the family? This man is a keeper!

    Carla McNeil
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The foot in the door bit is crazy manipulative. Bear in mind that they hung around after an attempt was made to close the door on them, after finding out that the daughter was not at home, after the police were called, and until the police arrived, and then stood there to argue with the police before being escorted off the property. All of that is awful behavior. At no point does that suggest they're doing any of this out of love or desire for connection.

    ZeroCapacity
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone does that to my door they better be prepared to lose that foot. That's an aggressive move and not any good at all.

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    Mario Strada
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back in the pre-cell/text days, it wasn't unusual for a friend or relative to drop in unannounced. "I was nearby and I thought I should pay a visit", it was pretty normal. Still, even then there were rules, such as "sorry, I am busy now, thank you for coming by but I am cleaning/cooking/masturbating, etc.". Today there is no excuse.

    UpupaEpops
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my culture, we used to have this God-awful thing called "visiting hours". A time of day when you could just drop by unannounced. Probably a relic of when most (if not all) women were SAHMs. I grew up like this. We always had a fresh batch of pastries and fancy candy you couldn't touch because it was set aside for the guests. We had this lovely game, where if for some horrific reason there was no home-baked product in the house, they would send you out "to run an errand". That is, run to the baker's and buy "home-baked pastry" which was a selection of the stuff most often baked at home, then run back home before the coffee was ready and sneakily dump it onto a plate. Your job as a guest would obviously be to play dumb and ask for your host's perfect recipe. Part of me is missing all the perfectly coiffed ladies all dressed up in pearls and tweed. A much bigger part of me is SO glad this tradition has died out since women entered the workforce.

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    Izzy Curer
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My narcissistic mother wouldn't even do this. She might try to clean my entire house, claiming that she's 'just helping', but she'd never stick her foot in the door and try to shove her way inside if asked to leave. Major red flags. That almost sounds aggressive. I wouldn't call the cops on my own parents, but I can see why these people felt the need to.

    F C
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mine (and other members) have done this and plenty more, removing the front door handles and keyholes and keeping people awake as sleep deprivation torture/games. They make up stories that you're a drunk/dru**ie or w.e. in 2019 my parents showed up uninvited to my house and elbowed me in thr head because I kicked them out almost as soon as they arrived because they started with their tirade. They also brought kilos of food which was not welcome and it there was not even a fridge for it. This is just a sample. This is what people like this do. Police does nothing. People who haven't been through it don't understand. They say things like "can't you talk to them?" Talk to them wow, who ever thought of that? That's why these ultra strict boundaries exist.

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a sneaking suspicion that the in-laws themselves are the reason for the rule. It quite possible they walked right over their son’s and daughter-in-law’s privacy, thinking they could come and go as they please—-and probably decide to camp out at their house after the children were born, ostensibly to “help out”, but either taking over completely and totally undoing everything the baby’s parents did because they “know how to do it better” or “the right way”, or just freeloading and actually making even more work for the already exhausted new parents. If my parents or in laws did anything like that, they would immediately be given the boot out my door., which would them be locked. They’d also never ever get a copy of my door keys. No f*****g way.

    F C
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. People are "paraboid" but sometimes paranoia is well founded

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    Laura Ketteridge
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is most definitely not how my family lives and interacts. If my family had dropped by they would have been welcomed and given cleaning or packing duties. This family's interactions sounds so alien to me. However, if a family has set such a firm rule in place, I'm pretty much convinced it was created out of necessity. Buying a house and moving are stressful activities. No one needs additional stress from family.

    deanna woods
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't see how anyone thinks that it is OK to try and force your way into someone else's house. I don't care that they are her in laws, they knew the rule and decided to test it. The child they came to see wasn't even home and they would have known that if had called. They are the ones that chose to drive an hour when they didn't have to. As far as I am concerned, an hour is not that long of a drive. I drove an hour to go to college several days a week. These in laws are manipulative and the OP is not the a-hole.

    F C
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes read the room. When some one doesn't want you, I mean as a guest, why insist and stay where you're not welcome? Many times these people have nowhere else to go or anything better to do I guess.

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    Amber.exe (She/They)
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA-They come over without calling or anything knowing the rule and after you explained it to them again they got mad about it.They came to see your daughter who's not even there and they would've known if they called ahead.

    AW
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, who DOESN'T call before coming over? that's nuts. the grandchild wasn't even home, and if they'd called/texted ahead, they would have known that

    Ginger Winters
    Community Member
    7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And then refusing to leave while OP is packing and the kiddo isn't even there... thats not cool

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    Kat Min
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Err...without any more context I will say YTA (please don't downvote me just because you disagree with me. Write it in a reply. BP closes accounts that get downvotes) So they broke your rules, so what?? Give them a cup of coffee and then send them packing. Why the melodrama??

    Bubs623
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it was my family, I would totally agree with you. But now that I've seen the way my partner was raised, with massively manipulative, narcissistic parents who disrespect and criticize constantly, letting them in for a cup of coffee would be the beginning of the end for every boundary they tried to set. Give an inch, take a mile was an expression coined for people like this. They demand it all and give nothing but disdain and disrespect in return. It's weird- I get it because I was not raised like that (and I'm so grateful) but don't dump on others for making sure they aren't trampled.

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    JuniorCJ82
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FINALLY!!!!!!!! A husband who stands up WITH his wife!!!!!!!! (Also, didn't she say the girl wasn't home?)

    F C
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes... like children never have extracurricular activity.. what were they thinking?

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    Hoodoo
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's more to this story, I'm sure. If I knew m in-laws had made an hour trip to see a grandchild, I'd have them in to wait- drinks, snacks, etc. BUT I 've a good relationship w/ m in-laws... The foot-in-the-door stunt is telling. No doubt OP & hubs have good reason to insist they leave. NTA

    Mary Lou
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Warranted or not, I don´t think getting the police involved has a productive impact in that scenario, unless shutting down the contact entirely is the goal. I don´t judge on whether it´s justified (too little information for that) , just saying: if you still want them in the picture for your daughter and that was your way to educate them on respecting your boundaries and you trying to have a healthy relationship with them, I doubt it did the trick

    david friedman
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's there to educate? Don't come if you haven't called. If a 5 year old can understand that. The parents are the ones who don't want a healthy relationship....foot in the door? not leaving when they were told.

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    Katy McMouse
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My in-laws used to do this all of the time and they had the uncanny knack for showing up whenever my babies were sleeping. I don't know how many times I asked them to call first because of this. When MIL would call (very infrequently), I would tell her that the baby was sleeping and to wait for a few hours, she would say that they only wanted to drop something off, pick something up, etc. When I would explain that the dog barks every time someone comes through the door and that alone is enough to wake the baby, she would not listen and show up any way. I started leaving signs on the door for people to not knock or come in, but they were ignored. Then, I started locking the doors but they would come in through the back deck door that I couldn't lock. I couldn't win. I was ecstatic when, years later, my FIL had to give up his license. She didn't drive, so they were stuck. It took a decade, but I finally could go about my day not wondering when they would show up.

    Anna Nowak
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How twisted do ypu have to be to refuse to leave someones home after they clearly, directly told you to leave? Why do you even want to be in their house at that point?

    F C
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because its about meee. Me me me. I want to stay therefore I'll stay, I wanted to show up unannounced so I will. The entitlement of people like this is beyond human comprehension. Until you live through it you will not believe tje lengths people go to just to get their way (as inconvenient it may be to them).

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    Amused panda
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The getting huffy followed by foot in the door sounds to me like MIL didn't believe OP when told that the daughter wasn't home. Whilst it is arguably an a*****e move to call the Sheriff and have the in-laws removed for trespassing, OP's husband did that to his own parents after both their requests for the elder couple to leave were ignored, and after MIL shoved her foot in the door, and after fair warning he'd call the police, so imo it was reasonable. I don't get why a couple who live 1hr away wouldn't call first to see if it would be a suitable time even if the rule wasn't in place - the entire family could have been out - .... unless perhaps OP's in-laws felt they were being denied access to their granddaughter? The fact they didn't know the kid was at OP's mom's for a week whilst OP & hubby are moving suggests there isn't much communication between them.

    S
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I are expecting our first child in February and the very first thing that's going to happen upon her arrival is telling every single member of each family that uninvited or unannounced visits will not be allowed. No excuses. This will include texting/calling on the way over to say, "hey we're coming by."

    Tina Hugh
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My practice is to wait until I’m invited to meet a new baby. I wouldn’t need a personalized warning like that, but if I got one I’d be extra considerate and never visit

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    BisexualSquirrel
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have the same rule at my place. My mother in law has a key for emergencies and unfortunately she kept using it to just walk in whenever. She’s even walked into my bedroom while I was sleeping. F**k no. The line had to be constantly enforced. Some people do not respect you or your boundaries. I think we have a right to decide we need to know who is coming into our sanctuary.

    SillyPandaBunny
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an unhealthy relationship these people have with their parents. My family and that includes the in laws would never do this and if for some reason they did, I would at least ask if they needed to use the bathroom or have a cup of tea before sending them on their way. Sounds like neither the parents nor the children know how to behave nicely

    F C
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah and why do you think that is? Ith 90% of people in your life you don't need to set such boundaries. If some one has such a bad history of behaviour with you that you're forced to be this clinical maybe you've really effed them over too many times.

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    Samantha Sinclair
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't make my mind up on this. I suspect there's more to the story. Bad that MIL/FIL didn't respect rules, but not sure if I could get police involved with my parents.

    Alice Teasdale
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes I agree. I like to think I make everyone welcome. But at the same time I've moved to a farm a km from every neighbour. Also an ocean passage and 3 hour drive from the MIL who used to come into my house when I was out and rearrange furniture to fit stuff she found on hard rubbish that she thought we might like. Must have taken some real privacy invasions to go from a request/agreement to a rule though.

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    Suzi Q
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my ex and I moved near his mother, we had a no-calling before a visit rule. The problem was, she would call me from the driveway!

    Coolwhip
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry but this made me chuckle...talk about finding a loophole lol.

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    Jaybird3939
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Me, nor my house, are ever in shape for drop in callers. Just because you're out visiting, doesn't mean that people are ready to receive you. I grew up in the "drop in" phase with my grandparents, and didn't care for it then, really don't care for it now.

    Cookie
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm amazed the police responded. Where I live, they wouldn't bother even when burglars show up.

    madamjoiedumort
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have a reasonable expectation to privacy and that should only be broken in an emergency

    Foxxy Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F*** that! I don't invite anyone to my house and if the door knocks and I'm not expecting anyone then I ignore it. I have a key to my mum's and she has to mine but that's it. My house is my safe place and it's my rules. My mum lets all the family just turn up, she loves it but I don't. Sounds like these rules have been put in place for a reason, not up to keyboard warriors to shame them for what is done in their own safe place and home

    GoGoPDX
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am going to say YTA, unless there is more to the story. I grew up in a house with an open door mentality, our door was always open to family and friends. My grandparents and great grandparents are the same. Our friends growing up always just stopped buy, and will still stop by my parents if they are in town to say hi, as many spent a lot if time at of house, some even lived with us from time to time. Hell, us kids all have have keys to our parents and grandparents (when they were alive) places and if no one is home will let ourselves in and chill, have a snack, watch tv, etc.. Pretty much all of our friends are also the same. If it is an inconvenient time, we just leave, no big deal. That being said, I do know that not everyone feels the same, and that stopping by is not ok unless you call first, and that is absolutely ok. I will always call or text first if someone had that boundary. I will totally respect that. But, this is way to extreme of a reaction to family crossing this type of boundery. I just think they went way to far. They could have reminded them, had them in for a bit, and then ask them to leave while reminding them again. I mean, calling the cops on your family because they didn't call first? That is just extremely rude, mean, and inhospitable. What kind of relationship do you have with people especially family that you would do this? If there is legit reasons, than they needed to explain that, but OP did say they made this rule clear to everyone. Like I said, I get boundaries, but I do feel these people are taking them to the extreme and don't seem like they are very good friends or family members. (Please don't down vote me because of how I view the situation. Down votes get people banned and are supposed to be for hateful comments, harrressment, and spam)

    Mary Lou
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just got my second suspension for having a minority opinion on something revoked. Bored Panda support apologized and said they are working on the problem. Let´s hope they soon find a solution to stop people who just don´t know better and trolls like Unknown from silencing others.

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    Cecile Visscher
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would it have killed you to give them some coffee and send them on their way again?

    Coolwhip
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right, I was thinking if I didn't want them in, I would've at least brought some drinks outside and we could've chatted for a bit.

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    Jennifer Lee
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    100% NTA. All the people saying you over-reacted apparently do not understand what "boundary" means, and they probably behave rudely themselves.

    Frits Driessen
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Putting your foot in the door is definitely something you should try doing to me. I'll just keep slamming it shut until you move your hoof.

    Pat Ferryman
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents never came over with out calling first. It was considered curtesy. The first thing she asked when she called was if my husband was home if I said yes she hung up. I had to call her back and make her understand I could talk with him home. She valued mine and his time together and understood with 5 kids between 3 and 6 we were always busy. She also knew because he was in the military he could be gone at a moments notice. I valued her time and wanted her advice. Trying to blend two families is rough .

    Meami
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We don’t answer our door unless we know someone is coming so problem solved!

    Carla Phillips
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like they must have the rule for a reason. While it seems like an over reaction to me! I'm seeing it through my own eyes and experiences, not the ops. Nta

    Phil Boswell
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The story has been removed from Reddit, no explanation. I wonder what's going on…

    Suzi Q
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On a second look, the post is closed because it violated rule 5 about violent encounters. I don't know what they're talking about because I don't see this as particularly violent.

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    T'Mar of Vulcan
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother's relatives used to do this - just show up at a person's house and walk right in. (This was before it got too dangerous in Jozi to leave gates unlocked or doors open, etc.) If no one was in the lounge they'd stroll into the bedroom, plonk down on one of the chairs and chat to my mom and/or dad while they were still in bed! Stroll into my bedroom and start chatting, even if I wasn't dressed! My parents died and my brother and SIL moved in (he and I co-own the house). Uncle tried this and SIL stopped him from entering. Well, did cousin complain on social media, uncle got his nose out of joint and aunt by marriage never spoke to me again until her death. Too bad, so sad, rudeness isn't tolerate by the younger generations! (Parents were Silent Generation; we're GenX.)

    Ivy at Eve
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everyone seems to be stuck on the rule but why would you want to visit - visit and not offering help - someone in the middle of a move? I guess they hoped to be welcomed with open arms as a babysitter.... nice try. And calling the police might be a tat over but they were warned...

    Isa
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe they came out of love .Not siding with the in laws but still..That's why people are lonely in America and their parents are ridiculous too.

    Ginger Winters
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    7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem comes with them refusing to leave. That's not love that's just rude. They were told no multiple times and didn't listen

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    Aradia Sayner
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't like unexpected visitors either. Do not knock on my door (unless it is an emergency) without calling first. I may not call the police but I will make you understand why you should never do this.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think that's just plain rude. Maybe I'm not in the mood for company that day, maybe I'm sick or just in the middle of a really good book. No one in my family would ever just "drop by" unannounced. Even if they're just calling from down the street, they will always call first. No one lives close to us anymore. My husband's sister is the closest at almost 2 hours away and you can bet she's not going to drive that far without making a plan first.

    Sir Panda
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Next time don't answer the door. If they don't take the hint rack a shotgun. If they still don't take the hint call the police/sheriff.

    Bevy Mart
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. I had the same rule due to a very overbearing father who would pull c**p like this all the time, just showing up whenever he felt like it. I have my own life and my own company, i quite often have my own plans and shouldn't have to change them because someone else thinks it's ok just to show up whenever they want, and I shouldn't have to justify myself to them I ended up calling the cops on my dad once too when he wouldn't leave. Due to this and many other issues, we didn't talk to each other at all for the last 20 years of his life, and I don't regret it one bit.

    El MasChingon
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah, you guys are the AH, to call the police is extreme and you and your husband seem like complete POS

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well you may find that your in-laws are quite distant in the future - which is exactly where I'd want them.

    Mary Mattheiss
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On some level in my opinion they are all “ A———-“ in some way : the OP for feeling she needs to live her life with such rigid social standards and the parents for acting in such a way their children feel they need to have such strict visiting “rules” . And I DO think It is pathetic that the OP’s husband felt that breaking those “ rules” warranted calling the police. What a mixed up , non compassionate and socially backwards family.

    Jason K
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of people saying that the in-laws must be the problem, but they even have a no trespassing sign on a tree near the house. Who does that? I'd take that as concerning. It's one thing to value personal time, it's another to be so antisocial. It's also not a good quality to instill in the daughter.

    William Smith
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's an old story of a Japanese exchange student who was sadly gunned down on someone's front step on Halloween by a man whose wife had a paranoid meltdown and demanded he shoot the kid. I'm getting the same vibes from the OP. unless she gives some context as to WHY such a rule was implemented, all we can assume is she's some kind of paranoid freak who is terrified of the world around her.

    Unknown
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    2 years ago

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    Well, since I've realized that this site is not only stupid, filled with about 50% stupid readers with no thought or opinion of there own, I'll just let the majority of you know, that, first: you're responding here to posts stolen from other sites. On top of that Idiocracy, you defend yourselves like it's a 4th grade pretend U.N. hearing. Good bye and fúçk off bored pandas. Find something useful to do.

    F C
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't an airport, you don't need to announce your departure

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    pebs
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    Regardless of whether it would surely be best to advise before making a visit, from several posts on this site it seems to me that family relations in the US are absolutely freaked out. Okay, it is true that the in-laws did not call before, it is true that maybe they are a nuisance in that moment: but how can you call the police to chase them away? How do you create such an unadjustable rift for such a stupid thing? Simply crazy. Among other things, I think it is a question of relations between White Anglo-Saxons: other ethnic groups would certainly behave in a more civil and intelligent way.

    Kioh81
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Race was never mentioned in this. Neither was location. You're assuming a lot and making some pretty big blanket statements. The fact that the in-laws knew ahead of time of the rule, (it does not sound like it was a new rule either,) drove an hour without even knowing if the granddaughter would even home, used that as a shoddy excuse to justify blatantly ignoring the rule,then were warned several times and still insisted on coming in, sounds like a toxic relationship. They also stayed after the police were called, by their own son, until the time the police actually arrived dictates they had zero respect for boundaries of their own son and HIS family. This is coming from me, someone that is NOT "white Anglo-Saxon" and part of one of those "other ethnic groups" you are claiming to mistakenly speak for.

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    Carol Emory
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother had the same rule. If you did not call first before coming over, you were not let in. I thought she was being unreasonable until I moved out with my husband and son. With my husband working and me taking care of an autistic child on my own, there was not a lot of quiet time for me and my husband to have to ourselves or as a couple. So when my brother would drop by with the whole family to visit, I kindly turned him away. He told me he played that game with mom and he wouldn't play it with me. I said "It's not a game, it's called you having respect for my time enough to find out if I am even up to having company. If you don't call, you will not be let in." He called after that.

    MimSorensson
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s not even about the circumstances, really; if you draw a line people don’t get to cross it - they shouldn’t WANT to cross it. It’s about basic respect and acceptable adult human behaviour, at least that’s how I see it.

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    Raine Soo
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All I can say is: the husband stuck by his wife, and told his parents to observe the rule, and leave. How many times does the other spouse make exceptions for his/her side of the family? This man is a keeper!

    Carla McNeil
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The foot in the door bit is crazy manipulative. Bear in mind that they hung around after an attempt was made to close the door on them, after finding out that the daughter was not at home, after the police were called, and until the police arrived, and then stood there to argue with the police before being escorted off the property. All of that is awful behavior. At no point does that suggest they're doing any of this out of love or desire for connection.

    ZeroCapacity
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone does that to my door they better be prepared to lose that foot. That's an aggressive move and not any good at all.

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    Mario Strada
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back in the pre-cell/text days, it wasn't unusual for a friend or relative to drop in unannounced. "I was nearby and I thought I should pay a visit", it was pretty normal. Still, even then there were rules, such as "sorry, I am busy now, thank you for coming by but I am cleaning/cooking/masturbating, etc.". Today there is no excuse.

    UpupaEpops
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my culture, we used to have this God-awful thing called "visiting hours". A time of day when you could just drop by unannounced. Probably a relic of when most (if not all) women were SAHMs. I grew up like this. We always had a fresh batch of pastries and fancy candy you couldn't touch because it was set aside for the guests. We had this lovely game, where if for some horrific reason there was no home-baked product in the house, they would send you out "to run an errand". That is, run to the baker's and buy "home-baked pastry" which was a selection of the stuff most often baked at home, then run back home before the coffee was ready and sneakily dump it onto a plate. Your job as a guest would obviously be to play dumb and ask for your host's perfect recipe. Part of me is missing all the perfectly coiffed ladies all dressed up in pearls and tweed. A much bigger part of me is SO glad this tradition has died out since women entered the workforce.

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    Izzy Curer
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My narcissistic mother wouldn't even do this. She might try to clean my entire house, claiming that she's 'just helping', but she'd never stick her foot in the door and try to shove her way inside if asked to leave. Major red flags. That almost sounds aggressive. I wouldn't call the cops on my own parents, but I can see why these people felt the need to.

    F C
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mine (and other members) have done this and plenty more, removing the front door handles and keyholes and keeping people awake as sleep deprivation torture/games. They make up stories that you're a drunk/dru**ie or w.e. in 2019 my parents showed up uninvited to my house and elbowed me in thr head because I kicked them out almost as soon as they arrived because they started with their tirade. They also brought kilos of food which was not welcome and it there was not even a fridge for it. This is just a sample. This is what people like this do. Police does nothing. People who haven't been through it don't understand. They say things like "can't you talk to them?" Talk to them wow, who ever thought of that? That's why these ultra strict boundaries exist.

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a sneaking suspicion that the in-laws themselves are the reason for the rule. It quite possible they walked right over their son’s and daughter-in-law’s privacy, thinking they could come and go as they please—-and probably decide to camp out at their house after the children were born, ostensibly to “help out”, but either taking over completely and totally undoing everything the baby’s parents did because they “know how to do it better” or “the right way”, or just freeloading and actually making even more work for the already exhausted new parents. If my parents or in laws did anything like that, they would immediately be given the boot out my door., which would them be locked. They’d also never ever get a copy of my door keys. No f*****g way.

    F C
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. People are "paraboid" but sometimes paranoia is well founded

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    Laura Ketteridge
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is most definitely not how my family lives and interacts. If my family had dropped by they would have been welcomed and given cleaning or packing duties. This family's interactions sounds so alien to me. However, if a family has set such a firm rule in place, I'm pretty much convinced it was created out of necessity. Buying a house and moving are stressful activities. No one needs additional stress from family.

    deanna woods
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't see how anyone thinks that it is OK to try and force your way into someone else's house. I don't care that they are her in laws, they knew the rule and decided to test it. The child they came to see wasn't even home and they would have known that if had called. They are the ones that chose to drive an hour when they didn't have to. As far as I am concerned, an hour is not that long of a drive. I drove an hour to go to college several days a week. These in laws are manipulative and the OP is not the a-hole.

    F C
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes read the room. When some one doesn't want you, I mean as a guest, why insist and stay where you're not welcome? Many times these people have nowhere else to go or anything better to do I guess.

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    Amber.exe (She/They)
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA-They come over without calling or anything knowing the rule and after you explained it to them again they got mad about it.They came to see your daughter who's not even there and they would've known if they called ahead.

    AW
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, who DOESN'T call before coming over? that's nuts. the grandchild wasn't even home, and if they'd called/texted ahead, they would have known that

    Ginger Winters
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    7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And then refusing to leave while OP is packing and the kiddo isn't even there... thats not cool

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    Kat Min
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Err...without any more context I will say YTA (please don't downvote me just because you disagree with me. Write it in a reply. BP closes accounts that get downvotes) So they broke your rules, so what?? Give them a cup of coffee and then send them packing. Why the melodrama??

    Bubs623
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it was my family, I would totally agree with you. But now that I've seen the way my partner was raised, with massively manipulative, narcissistic parents who disrespect and criticize constantly, letting them in for a cup of coffee would be the beginning of the end for every boundary they tried to set. Give an inch, take a mile was an expression coined for people like this. They demand it all and give nothing but disdain and disrespect in return. It's weird- I get it because I was not raised like that (and I'm so grateful) but don't dump on others for making sure they aren't trampled.

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    JuniorCJ82
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FINALLY!!!!!!!! A husband who stands up WITH his wife!!!!!!!! (Also, didn't she say the girl wasn't home?)

    F C
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes... like children never have extracurricular activity.. what were they thinking?

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    Hoodoo
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's more to this story, I'm sure. If I knew m in-laws had made an hour trip to see a grandchild, I'd have them in to wait- drinks, snacks, etc. BUT I 've a good relationship w/ m in-laws... The foot-in-the-door stunt is telling. No doubt OP & hubs have good reason to insist they leave. NTA

    Mary Lou
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Warranted or not, I don´t think getting the police involved has a productive impact in that scenario, unless shutting down the contact entirely is the goal. I don´t judge on whether it´s justified (too little information for that) , just saying: if you still want them in the picture for your daughter and that was your way to educate them on respecting your boundaries and you trying to have a healthy relationship with them, I doubt it did the trick

    david friedman
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's there to educate? Don't come if you haven't called. If a 5 year old can understand that. The parents are the ones who don't want a healthy relationship....foot in the door? not leaving when they were told.

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    Katy McMouse
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My in-laws used to do this all of the time and they had the uncanny knack for showing up whenever my babies were sleeping. I don't know how many times I asked them to call first because of this. When MIL would call (very infrequently), I would tell her that the baby was sleeping and to wait for a few hours, she would say that they only wanted to drop something off, pick something up, etc. When I would explain that the dog barks every time someone comes through the door and that alone is enough to wake the baby, she would not listen and show up any way. I started leaving signs on the door for people to not knock or come in, but they were ignored. Then, I started locking the doors but they would come in through the back deck door that I couldn't lock. I couldn't win. I was ecstatic when, years later, my FIL had to give up his license. She didn't drive, so they were stuck. It took a decade, but I finally could go about my day not wondering when they would show up.

    Anna Nowak
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How twisted do ypu have to be to refuse to leave someones home after they clearly, directly told you to leave? Why do you even want to be in their house at that point?

    F C
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because its about meee. Me me me. I want to stay therefore I'll stay, I wanted to show up unannounced so I will. The entitlement of people like this is beyond human comprehension. Until you live through it you will not believe tje lengths people go to just to get their way (as inconvenient it may be to them).

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    Amused panda
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The getting huffy followed by foot in the door sounds to me like MIL didn't believe OP when told that the daughter wasn't home. Whilst it is arguably an a*****e move to call the Sheriff and have the in-laws removed for trespassing, OP's husband did that to his own parents after both their requests for the elder couple to leave were ignored, and after MIL shoved her foot in the door, and after fair warning he'd call the police, so imo it was reasonable. I don't get why a couple who live 1hr away wouldn't call first to see if it would be a suitable time even if the rule wasn't in place - the entire family could have been out - .... unless perhaps OP's in-laws felt they were being denied access to their granddaughter? The fact they didn't know the kid was at OP's mom's for a week whilst OP & hubby are moving suggests there isn't much communication between them.

    S
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I are expecting our first child in February and the very first thing that's going to happen upon her arrival is telling every single member of each family that uninvited or unannounced visits will not be allowed. No excuses. This will include texting/calling on the way over to say, "hey we're coming by."

    Tina Hugh
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My practice is to wait until I’m invited to meet a new baby. I wouldn’t need a personalized warning like that, but if I got one I’d be extra considerate and never visit

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    BisexualSquirrel
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have the same rule at my place. My mother in law has a key for emergencies and unfortunately she kept using it to just walk in whenever. She’s even walked into my bedroom while I was sleeping. F**k no. The line had to be constantly enforced. Some people do not respect you or your boundaries. I think we have a right to decide we need to know who is coming into our sanctuary.

    SillyPandaBunny
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an unhealthy relationship these people have with their parents. My family and that includes the in laws would never do this and if for some reason they did, I would at least ask if they needed to use the bathroom or have a cup of tea before sending them on their way. Sounds like neither the parents nor the children know how to behave nicely

    F C
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah and why do you think that is? Ith 90% of people in your life you don't need to set such boundaries. If some one has such a bad history of behaviour with you that you're forced to be this clinical maybe you've really effed them over too many times.

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    Samantha Sinclair
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't make my mind up on this. I suspect there's more to the story. Bad that MIL/FIL didn't respect rules, but not sure if I could get police involved with my parents.

    Alice Teasdale
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes I agree. I like to think I make everyone welcome. But at the same time I've moved to a farm a km from every neighbour. Also an ocean passage and 3 hour drive from the MIL who used to come into my house when I was out and rearrange furniture to fit stuff she found on hard rubbish that she thought we might like. Must have taken some real privacy invasions to go from a request/agreement to a rule though.

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    Suzi Q
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my ex and I moved near his mother, we had a no-calling before a visit rule. The problem was, she would call me from the driveway!

    Coolwhip
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry but this made me chuckle...talk about finding a loophole lol.

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    Jaybird3939
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Me, nor my house, are ever in shape for drop in callers. Just because you're out visiting, doesn't mean that people are ready to receive you. I grew up in the "drop in" phase with my grandparents, and didn't care for it then, really don't care for it now.

    Cookie
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm amazed the police responded. Where I live, they wouldn't bother even when burglars show up.

    madamjoiedumort
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have a reasonable expectation to privacy and that should only be broken in an emergency

    Foxxy Panda
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F*** that! I don't invite anyone to my house and if the door knocks and I'm not expecting anyone then I ignore it. I have a key to my mum's and she has to mine but that's it. My house is my safe place and it's my rules. My mum lets all the family just turn up, she loves it but I don't. Sounds like these rules have been put in place for a reason, not up to keyboard warriors to shame them for what is done in their own safe place and home

    GoGoPDX
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am going to say YTA, unless there is more to the story. I grew up in a house with an open door mentality, our door was always open to family and friends. My grandparents and great grandparents are the same. Our friends growing up always just stopped buy, and will still stop by my parents if they are in town to say hi, as many spent a lot if time at of house, some even lived with us from time to time. Hell, us kids all have have keys to our parents and grandparents (when they were alive) places and if no one is home will let ourselves in and chill, have a snack, watch tv, etc.. Pretty much all of our friends are also the same. If it is an inconvenient time, we just leave, no big deal. That being said, I do know that not everyone feels the same, and that stopping by is not ok unless you call first, and that is absolutely ok. I will always call or text first if someone had that boundary. I will totally respect that. But, this is way to extreme of a reaction to family crossing this type of boundery. I just think they went way to far. They could have reminded them, had them in for a bit, and then ask them to leave while reminding them again. I mean, calling the cops on your family because they didn't call first? That is just extremely rude, mean, and inhospitable. What kind of relationship do you have with people especially family that you would do this? If there is legit reasons, than they needed to explain that, but OP did say they made this rule clear to everyone. Like I said, I get boundaries, but I do feel these people are taking them to the extreme and don't seem like they are very good friends or family members. (Please don't down vote me because of how I view the situation. Down votes get people banned and are supposed to be for hateful comments, harrressment, and spam)

    Mary Lou
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just got my second suspension for having a minority opinion on something revoked. Bored Panda support apologized and said they are working on the problem. Let´s hope they soon find a solution to stop people who just don´t know better and trolls like Unknown from silencing others.

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    Cecile Visscher
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would it have killed you to give them some coffee and send them on their way again?

    Coolwhip
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right, I was thinking if I didn't want them in, I would've at least brought some drinks outside and we could've chatted for a bit.

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    Jennifer Lee
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    100% NTA. All the people saying you over-reacted apparently do not understand what "boundary" means, and they probably behave rudely themselves.

    Frits Driessen
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Putting your foot in the door is definitely something you should try doing to me. I'll just keep slamming it shut until you move your hoof.

    Pat Ferryman
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents never came over with out calling first. It was considered curtesy. The first thing she asked when she called was if my husband was home if I said yes she hung up. I had to call her back and make her understand I could talk with him home. She valued mine and his time together and understood with 5 kids between 3 and 6 we were always busy. She also knew because he was in the military he could be gone at a moments notice. I valued her time and wanted her advice. Trying to blend two families is rough .

    Meami
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We don’t answer our door unless we know someone is coming so problem solved!

    Carla Phillips
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like they must have the rule for a reason. While it seems like an over reaction to me! I'm seeing it through my own eyes and experiences, not the ops. Nta

    Phil Boswell
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The story has been removed from Reddit, no explanation. I wonder what's going on…

    Suzi Q
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On a second look, the post is closed because it violated rule 5 about violent encounters. I don't know what they're talking about because I don't see this as particularly violent.

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    T'Mar of Vulcan
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother's relatives used to do this - just show up at a person's house and walk right in. (This was before it got too dangerous in Jozi to leave gates unlocked or doors open, etc.) If no one was in the lounge they'd stroll into the bedroom, plonk down on one of the chairs and chat to my mom and/or dad while they were still in bed! Stroll into my bedroom and start chatting, even if I wasn't dressed! My parents died and my brother and SIL moved in (he and I co-own the house). Uncle tried this and SIL stopped him from entering. Well, did cousin complain on social media, uncle got his nose out of joint and aunt by marriage never spoke to me again until her death. Too bad, so sad, rudeness isn't tolerate by the younger generations! (Parents were Silent Generation; we're GenX.)

    Ivy at Eve
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everyone seems to be stuck on the rule but why would you want to visit - visit and not offering help - someone in the middle of a move? I guess they hoped to be welcomed with open arms as a babysitter.... nice try. And calling the police might be a tat over but they were warned...

    Isa
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe they came out of love .Not siding with the in laws but still..That's why people are lonely in America and their parents are ridiculous too.

    Ginger Winters
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    7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem comes with them refusing to leave. That's not love that's just rude. They were told no multiple times and didn't listen

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    Aradia Sayner
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't like unexpected visitors either. Do not knock on my door (unless it is an emergency) without calling first. I may not call the police but I will make you understand why you should never do this.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think that's just plain rude. Maybe I'm not in the mood for company that day, maybe I'm sick or just in the middle of a really good book. No one in my family would ever just "drop by" unannounced. Even if they're just calling from down the street, they will always call first. No one lives close to us anymore. My husband's sister is the closest at almost 2 hours away and you can bet she's not going to drive that far without making a plan first.

    Sir Panda
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Next time don't answer the door. If they don't take the hint rack a shotgun. If they still don't take the hint call the police/sheriff.

    Bevy Mart
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. I had the same rule due to a very overbearing father who would pull c**p like this all the time, just showing up whenever he felt like it. I have my own life and my own company, i quite often have my own plans and shouldn't have to change them because someone else thinks it's ok just to show up whenever they want, and I shouldn't have to justify myself to them I ended up calling the cops on my dad once too when he wouldn't leave. Due to this and many other issues, we didn't talk to each other at all for the last 20 years of his life, and I don't regret it one bit.

    El MasChingon
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah, you guys are the AH, to call the police is extreme and you and your husband seem like complete POS

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well you may find that your in-laws are quite distant in the future - which is exactly where I'd want them.

    Mary Mattheiss
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On some level in my opinion they are all “ A———-“ in some way : the OP for feeling she needs to live her life with such rigid social standards and the parents for acting in such a way their children feel they need to have such strict visiting “rules” . And I DO think It is pathetic that the OP’s husband felt that breaking those “ rules” warranted calling the police. What a mixed up , non compassionate and socially backwards family.

    Jason K
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of people saying that the in-laws must be the problem, but they even have a no trespassing sign on a tree near the house. Who does that? I'd take that as concerning. It's one thing to value personal time, it's another to be so antisocial. It's also not a good quality to instill in the daughter.

    William Smith
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's an old story of a Japanese exchange student who was sadly gunned down on someone's front step on Halloween by a man whose wife had a paranoid meltdown and demanded he shoot the kid. I'm getting the same vibes from the OP. unless she gives some context as to WHY such a rule was implemented, all we can assume is she's some kind of paranoid freak who is terrified of the world around her.

    Unknown
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    2 years ago

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    Well, since I've realized that this site is not only stupid, filled with about 50% stupid readers with no thought or opinion of there own, I'll just let the majority of you know, that, first: you're responding here to posts stolen from other sites. On top of that Idiocracy, you defend yourselves like it's a 4th grade pretend U.N. hearing. Good bye and fúçk off bored pandas. Find something useful to do.

    F C
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't an airport, you don't need to announce your departure

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    pebs
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    2 years ago (edited)

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    Regardless of whether it would surely be best to advise before making a visit, from several posts on this site it seems to me that family relations in the US are absolutely freaked out. Okay, it is true that the in-laws did not call before, it is true that maybe they are a nuisance in that moment: but how can you call the police to chase them away? How do you create such an unadjustable rift for such a stupid thing? Simply crazy. Among other things, I think it is a question of relations between White Anglo-Saxons: other ethnic groups would certainly behave in a more civil and intelligent way.

    Kioh81
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Race was never mentioned in this. Neither was location. You're assuming a lot and making some pretty big blanket statements. The fact that the in-laws knew ahead of time of the rule, (it does not sound like it was a new rule either,) drove an hour without even knowing if the granddaughter would even home, used that as a shoddy excuse to justify blatantly ignoring the rule,then were warned several times and still insisted on coming in, sounds like a toxic relationship. They also stayed after the police were called, by their own son, until the time the police actually arrived dictates they had zero respect for boundaries of their own son and HIS family. This is coming from me, someone that is NOT "white Anglo-Saxon" and part of one of those "other ethnic groups" you are claiming to mistakenly speak for.

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