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“AITA For Divorcing My Husband Because He Spent 10 Minutes In The Car During A Family Emergency?”
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“AITA For Divorcing My Husband Because He Spent 10 Minutes In The Car During A Family Emergency?”

Husband Lets His Trauma Response Get In The Way During Emergency, Loses Wife“I Was So Mad”: Woman Seeks Divorce After Husband Just Sits In The Car During An EmergencyMan Feels Compelled To Stay In His Car, Wife Divorces Him As She Had An EmergencyWoman Asks If She’s Wrong For Wanting A Divorce After How Her Husband Handled A Family EmergencyWoman Wants Divorce After Husband Needed 10 Minutes Alone In His Car In An EmergencyMan Sits In His Car Instead Of Rushing Stepson To Hospital, Makes Wife Rethink Entire MarriageWife Wants A Divorce After Husband Didn’t Break The Habit Of Sitting In His Car In An EmergencyWoman Shocked And Angry After Husband Is Unable To Overcome His “Trauma” In A Family Emergency“I Was Stunned”: Husband Sits In Car For 10 Minutes Instead Of Helping Injured Son
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Everyone has their own little weird quirks. These can range from funny and harmless, all the way to downright annoying. Dating (or being married) to someone who has uncontrollable compulsions can be a bother at the best of times, but deeply set behaviors might actually get in the way during a crisis.

A woman asked if she was wrong for wanting to divorce her husband after he refused to leave the car for 10 minutes when their son was injured. We reached out to the wife in the story via private message and will update the article when she gets back to us.

All of us have some weird quirk or internal rule we stick to

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But one woman decided enough was enough when her husband sat in the car while her son was injured

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OCD can cause some pretty abnormal behavior

As many of the commenters noted, the husband’s behavior very closely matches the “compulsions” and intrusive thoughts that people with obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) have. In short, people with OCD often have little “rituals” they have to perform before leaving the house, or, in this case, leaving the car.

It’s also important to remember that OCD is a pretty broad term, with a whole host of symptoms. Some folks get obsessed with certain topics or actions. At times they start to develop beliefs that if they don’t do something a certain way, something bad will happen. For example, a person with OCD might believe that if they don’t put their keys in a certain place after entering the home, some unspeakable tragedy will occur.

Interestingly, many people with OCD do tend to understand that these thoughts and feelings are quite irrational. However, this man does also seem to know that his behavior is by no means normal, but is also unwilling to let it go in the face of a crisis. In general, this is the sort of thing that can be treated through therapy and, just as importantly, a desire to see it fixed. Unfortunately, as the woman shares in the comments, the husband refuses therapy and, indeed, has his family “calling her out” for not respecting his trauma.

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Trauma there may be, but it’s worth asking if it actually supersedes the very real, physical trauma suffered by the son. It’s also somewhat telling that he seems incapable of seeing his wife’s point of view. Indeed, he immediately downplays his own lack of action and can’t really understand why a mother seeing her own child injured might also feel traumatized. This alone might be enough of a reason to call off the relationship.

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The mother’s actions were also questioned by many commenters

Some comments do suggest that she has some responsibility here as well. For example, asking him to come home from work when she could have just taken the suffering child to a hospital herself. Similarly, this particular habit of her husbands does seem to be something she really did think about a lot.

However, she did not take any steps to deal with it until an actual crisis happened. In her defense, however, it would appear that the man did refuse any therapy, so she is definitely not to blame for seeing a divorce. This clearly bothers her to a significant degree, so there is no use wondering if it’s an “overreaction.” His chosen lifestyle is simply not compatible with her at the end of the day. Generally, people need to be on the same page on a lot of things before marriage, which is clearly not the case here.

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While her response to her son’s injury was perhaps not ideal, as she probably needed to do something beyond sit around and wait, it’s also understandable why it might be impossible for her to really “get” her husband’s actions. Despite the emergency and panic, he still has to go through this strange ritual. If she was choking or bleeding out, would he still sit there? One should be able to rely on their partner and it’s clear that this woman does not feel that way about him anymore.

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A few readers wanted more details

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But most sided with the woman

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However, a handful saw his position

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Was the husband's 10-minute car ritual a reasonable coping mechanism, even in a family emergency?
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arthbach
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In this situation, I would calmly state that he really let us down in an emergency, and it is not acceptable. It is a big deal. The condition for not divorcing him would be he must attend therapy. If he is not willing to do that, then I would not be willing to continue in the marriage.

Ephemera Image
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, but he gets no pass from me. He knows this about himself, he must have the brains to realise he could endanger other people with his little 'trauma'. How he justifies hurting other people this way is beyond me. I would not have married him for that reason. As someone mentioned, I also get tired of being the only adult in the room. Everybody has problems of one sort or another, you deal with them so they don't interfere with your, or other people's lives. He was an irresponsible a*s. And making it worse by trying to justify himself afterwards.

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KatSaidWhat
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WTF - a broken ankle IS an emergency - you want your kid to be in more pain for longer than necessary, YTA person? Husband total AH here - refusing therapy and allowing kid to suffer because of past trauma not even remotely related to this shituation. Nah, get out.

Becca not Becky
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A closed fracture, especially of the long bones, can still get pretty ugly. That was such a dumb comment by that person.

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Melissa anderson
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He refuses to seek therapy for his “trauma”. He’s using it as an excuse to control her. He’s useless in an emergency. He’s selfish and only cares about himself. Since he absolutely refuses to get therapy,I see no other option other than divorce. It’s completely on him.

Giraffy Window
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would have physically hauled his ask out of the car and told him to "wait two minutes on the curb for all I care" and taken the kid in OUR car. The YTA people saying "call an ambulance" must not know about US ambulance fees that cause even people experiencing heart attacks to argue and demand just to be driven there. The US is not a place of ready health access. To be fair, neither is Canada due to huge wait times in ER, and not enough staff... But hey, at least our taxes pay for it when we finally DO get seen... Literal days later.

Michelle Rutherford
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly this! Get out the car, you useless lump, I'm taking our kid to the hospital

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FreeTheUnicorn
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Leave him. Hes not willing to do the work to be a good parent. He doesn't think it's a big deal, and while the reason for the PTSD sounds odd, if you aren't willing to get help, you shouldn't be around kids no matter what the cause.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He doesn't have PTSD. PTSD does not limit itself tidily to a few compulsions. It spills into everything. Someone with that strong of a compulsion that they couldn't help a kid would not be functional to hold down a job. This is a weaponized behaviour he uses to control people, and he uses trauma as an excuse. I agree with you completely that he should not be around kids.

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Momogi
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

100% should leave him when he brings his family to harrass her. I hate when people start airing their business to get a justifaction and letting them bully others.

Alexandra
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He suffers from trauma. It impacts his family. He won't do anything about it, which means that he's content to let his family bear the brunt of his trauma. Not a good thing. You and your son need someone who's committed to being a good husband and father. This man isn't it, so divorce is the right option.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have severe, debilitating PTSD, and I work with a team of PTSD researchers. PTSD does not limit itself to a few compulsions. If he physically cannot get out of his car before 10 minutes, there's no way he can function well enough to work. There is something else going on.

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ॐBoyGanesh
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the noise aside, I asked my retired judge neighbor how she would have responded to a divorce hearing like this. She said his condition or excuse for sitting in the car wouldn’t be heard. If he acted as guardian for that child in any way, even by sharing a home, he had a responsibility to act in that child’s best interest no matter who else was present. She said it was neglect on his part & absolutely grounds for divorce. Also, should he have any rights to custody, guardianship or visitation with the child, his actions then would greatly affect that and only then would his “condition” be considered and it wouldn’t be towards his interest. I’m paraphrasing, but she read OPs statement, edit & responses. Bottom line: OCD or trauma isn’t an excuse to neglect getting the child medical care as timely as possible.

MR
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he's refusing therapy, he doesn't get to hide behind trauma for his behavior. There is no reason for his wife to be accepting of his absurd behavioral quirk if he's not accepting of it being an actual problem that needs to be addressed. And the child sitting there in pain is a ridiculous thing to accept just because *you* can't bring yourself to move for a specific time. I'm empathetic to his OCD (or whatever it is), but not to the fact that he's refused treatment for it. So yeah, ditch him. If you can't rely on him to be there for you, why stick around. And maybe leaving will finally get it through his head that he needs to do something about it.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't be empathetic. As someone with PTSD who also researches PTSD with a team of experts, this is not PTSD behaviour. PTSD does not limit itself neatly to a few compulsions. If he's so traumatized he cannot move from a car, he would not be able to hold down a job or function in many ways. And most PTSD sufferers are able to overcome their compulsions for a short time in an emergency. Adrenaline is powerful, and it's quick to surge in those with PTSD. I am quite certain this is a deliberate behaviour on his part that he does for his own selfish reasons and uses trauma as an excuse. That's why he's refusing treatment. He WANTS to be allowed to keep doing this because he gets some satisfaction from making people wait for him.

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The Starsong Princess
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it’s the US, then an ambulance is expensive. But she didn’t need one, her husband was right there. But the consensus is correct - therapy and demonstrate sustained improvement or divorce.

Super Beast
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like this story has missing parts. I dont get why she had to fight with her husband in an emergency while the kid was in pain. He does this thing obsessively since forever, why would she expect him to act differently this time? In this situation I think divorce is justified because he has problems he isnt addressing and this puts the family in risk. He needs to get his shiz together but honestly so does she. Priorities unprioritised all around.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She used the emergency to force the issue of his compulsion. Look how she said how it's caused them many fights in the past. Her kid got hurt, so she decided that she would prove to Husband that he could in fact get out of the car when necessary, thinking that there was no way he'd leave a child to suffer. But he didn't fall for her manipulation; he doubled down on his insistence that he is entitled to that behaviour no matter what the consequences, even if it means a suffering child. I've said in other comments my opinion on why he is like that. Frankly, that kid deserves better from both parents. I'm glad they're divorcing, and maybe her parents can teach her how to do better.

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D. Pitbull
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What kind of parent are the 'yta' people supporting? I'm fairly sure OP didn't sign up for "marriage with a partner who can't/won't be in any way reliable in an emergency, ever." 10 minutes is a *long time* when very bad things are happening. It's not like there was some sort of agreement wherein OP had said "I accept that I won't be able to rely on my partner for anything, so even though we're married, it's like I'm fending for myself anyhow - and that is how I'm accepting this marriage works."

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Calling OP an AH doesn't mean we support Husband. I think it's pretty close to universal that everyone knows Husband is an AH. But OP made some serious errors in judgment. First off, I question why she called him in am emergency, knowing he has that issue. I suspect she was using her son's injury as a way to force Husband out of the car, so to speak, to make him see he can do it. When a kid is hurt, that's not the time to get into a power struggle. Why not an ambulance (if she's in a civilised country), a neighbour, a friend, or a taxi? She speaks in her post about having guests over to dinner often enough that it's embarrassing when he sits in the car, so they obviously have people in their lives. Husband is for sure, TA, but there are reasons she could be as well.

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Amathyst Balaur
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband has a PHOBIA of bees. I have an ALLERGY to bees (I carry an epi pen). We lived in Tucson AZ (which does have killer bees). We had our windows open when we drove through a swarm of bees. His ONLY thought and action was to protect me. He quickly pulled into a convenience store and yelled at me to get out of the van. He then drove the van to the back of the store to get the bees away from me. His love and concern for me outweighed his phobia of the bees. He would have ran into the swarm to protect me. He is my hero.

Craig Reynolds
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This may be an ESH moment but, I'm focused on a potential life-or-death emergency. Imagine he was just down the road on the weekend doing an errand and her son had a life-threatening emergency, or perhaps she did herself, and her son ONLY knew to call him. That 10 minutes could be life or death. He already refused professional help so she is IMO correct to divorce him.

Scott J
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He was outside in the car. Why didn't mom take the kid out to the car so they could go to the hospital? She seems so concerned with being mad at the husband she dropped the ball in handling the emergency. At least he left work and came home. Yes, he has a mental issue and needs help. But she handled this "emergency" very poorly herself. ESH.

Insomniac
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree that she used this emergency to force the issue of her husband's compulsion. She wanted to prove to him that he could get out of the car because she hates that he won't. In my other comments, I've explained why I think he did not (and it's not because he couldn't). Everyone indeed sucks here. Rather than prioritizing her son's wellbeing, she took the opportunity of his injury to manipulate her husband. Granted, he's a rhymes-with-wick, but she seriously dropped the ball on caring for her son.

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Aelin Wildfire
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most people work during the day: would you rather waste time banging on a dozen doors trying to find someone who can actually help you (not a little old person or someone watching very young children), or call someone who you know can be there quickly and can actually help? I don't blame her for not reaching out to the neighbors directly.

Steve Hall
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If my child were injured, I would call an ambulance or a taxi, I would not call someone home from work for a ride. If this story is real, OP had decided on a divorce before the child ever got hurt.

Darthest Starfish
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LMAO. If you even think YTA, and can justify him literally sitting quietly in a car for ten minutes while a kid is wailing in pain inside, then you're unhinged.

Terran
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's a tough situation. I say ESH. He really needs therapy and he is the AH for refusing said therapy. But what exactly is wrong with OP? She didn't do anything and waited for the husband to come home. She didn't call an ambulance, an uber or asked the neighbour. I don't think she is fully honest in this post. Did she really tell him that it's an emergency or did she just tell him her son fell down the stairs and hurt his ankle? I'm not really convinced by her story.

Amathyst Balaur
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband has a PHOBIA of bees. I am ALERGIC to bees. We drove through a swarm of bees (Arizona has killer bees) with the windows open. He immediately pulled into a store parking lot, yelled at me to get out, and drove the car behind the store to get the bees away from me. He did not let his PHOBIA out weigh my severe allergy. His first response was to protect me. He would have ran through the bees to protect me. His love outweighs his phobia. He is my hero.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I question some of OP's choices, like why she insisted Husband be the one to come and drive her to the hospital, especially if she has decent neighbours. Most people don't hesitate to help a parent with an injured child. Her priority should have been getting Son to the hospital as fast as possible. Broken bones HURT. I cannot fathom why she'd wait a moment longer than necessary to get Son medical attention. It looks to me like she was using this emergency to force the issue of Husband's wait-in-the-car compulsion to crisis point, either to test him or to make him see that yes, he can get out of the car when he must. He failed the test. I understand why this is grounds for divorce. You must be able to count on your partner in an emergency, and he's refused treatment for this issue. But I also think it was cruel of her to prioritize her power struggle with Husband over the needs of Son.

JK
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude walked in on his ex-wife *cheating* she didn't st@b him or anything - that is *not* "trauma" - this dude has far worse neurosis and to refuse to attempt any help for this issue, is entirely on him and his *choice* to live with his issue. Everyone is jumping on the wrong fact - this time it was a kid with a broken ankle, what if next time it's a head injury? Broken back? Choking incident? And this neurotic idiot is still *counting down 10 whole minutes* - I'm sorry, I'm all for supporting mental health issues, but for crying out loud if you don't *try* to help yourself then no one else *can* help

Roberta Surprenant
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

F the idiots saying YTA and just call an ambulance, are they going to pay the ambulance bill?

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In civilised countries, we don't have to pay for ambulances. That's why we pay those things called taxes.

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Jaya
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Confused by the comments saying she should have called an ambulance. Do ambulance really come for a broken ankle? I really doubt that. Ambulances aren't taxis to the hospital, they are hospitals on wheels. Meant to keep you alive on the way to the hospital. They need to keep those available for people in serious danger, they can't just send those out for anyone who doesn't have a ride.

Raphapablap
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the civilised world they kinda are. What they aren't for is calling for non-emergencies like having a cold or headache.

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️️Upvote faery️
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is definitely YTA!! Why didn't she just call an ambulance or a neighbour to go to the hospital? Why wait for someone who is at work to get home when an ambulance is a quick call away and likely will get there faster?!? OP set this up to prove to herself what she already thinks. Way to shift the blame and not take ANY responsibility herself! She even took the time to argue and yell at him WHILE HER SON WAS WAITING TO GO TO THE FREAKING HOSPITAL!!!!! He needs therapy, yes, so does OP! I mean, why not have the kid ready to go once he got there? Why didn't she just bring her son out to the car so they could get going? Because she had to stop and argue her point.

Scotty
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is definitely an "a$$hole" yet she should absolutely get a divorce. Her husband deserves to be married to a sane, empathetic, caring person.

Louise Brown
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once again the YTA bunch is out here making no f'kn sense 😂 you just know theyre the same ones who are useless in an emergency themselves because they think the world revolves around them and their "boundaries"

Meagan Glaser
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gotta love the YTA that can't seem to comprehend that OP was waiting FOR THE CAR Not every family has more than one car, and in the US not every family can afford several thousand dollars to take an ambulance

Jennifer Lynn
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Too many people not understanding how much an ambulance costs in the U.S. And maybe a taxi or Uber costs too much or isn't available where they live.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have debilitating PTSD that causes me some major compulsions and behavioural issues, but I have always been able to shove them back when an emergency arises. I might break down afterward, but I can override the internal triggers when the adrenaline hits. That's what it's for. If this guy is functional enough to hold down a job and live a relatively normal life, there's no way his PTSD is so bad that he's literally unable to get out of the car to help with an injured child. The condition doesn't work like that. Husband is selfish AF, and he's weaponized his "trauma" as a power move to make others dance to his tune and prove his own importance. He wanted his wife to show that she cared more about his feelings than her son's wellbeing. When one has PTSD, it is that person's responsibility to get the treatment they need to function. Fine if he likes 10 minutes in the car on a regular day to unwind before coming into the house. Not when someone needs a ride to the hospital.

Furienna
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't you think that PTSD works differently for different people though?

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Sarah Léon
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have so much difficulty leaving my home. I'm only feeling good in my house, with my pets and my computer. I hate when I have to go outside, even more when it's for a few days like seeing my family, and even even more if I don't have time to prepare myself. It can easily trigger some anxiety and panic attacks. But when my aunt called me to tell me my father was in the hospital 800km from me, I put some clothes in a suitcase and I just went. On the road, I called my friends to take care of my cats. I can understand traumas and OCDs and all, but if you can't go over them in case of emergency, then you need help. And if you refuse help, then you are a really deep AH and nobody can count on you ever.

Furienna
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You might be able to do the impossible in an emergency, but it doesn't mean that everybody can.

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J. Maxx
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm with the person up above who stated the OP should have called a damn UBER instead of making her baby wait in f*****g pain for her looser husband to come home. I feel for the kid cause he's got two dipshits in his life. Well, one now that his dingleberry mother has divorced the nutjob. Oh, for those of you who are SJW's I have mental health issues, so don't bother coming for me.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have serious PTSD and I am disgusted with the parents. I've repeated enough in earlier comments why I don't think the husband's compulsion is real. OP should have called an ambulance for the child's safety. A broken limb should be properly immobolized in situ before someone's moved. And if he fell down the stairs, they should have taken spinal precautions. If an ambulance was impossible, she should have asked a neighbour. But I really think this was more about a power struggle between the husband and wife than concern over the kid.

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Royal Stray
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn't even fully a trauma thing, it's a coping mechanism he's calmly aware of and refusing not to break. It's not like he has problems not overreacting, or gets angry over nothing, or starts to panic at small things. He does this to himself, and since he refuses therapy I wonder if he does it by choice. If it was involuntary, like he'll get a panic attack if he doesn't then I'd understand. But it sounds like he just wants to mentally prepare himself. In normal case, sure if it works. But in an emergency, no. It's more to do with him being selfish especially since he refuses to get help

Nimitz
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the people complaining about the husband... Once you get locked into PTSD behavior it's incredibly difficult to break. Simply "getting help/treatment" usually isn't possible without intense and incredibly difficult work and often seeking that help is a MASSIVE hurdle in the first place. People without the disorder are incapable of understanding, but these behaviors are pretty much permanently locked in. It really isn't possible to choose to do what other people want. Arguing about it will only make the problem worse and further cement the behavior. It takes a great deal of time and effort to crack that, and his partner obviously doesn't understand or care about his reality

Becca not Becky
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While your statement has a lot of truth to it, almost all of us with mental health conditions reach a point in life where we either need to deal with it or face the natural consequences of not dealing with it. Failing to respond properly to a family emergency is pretty significant. If he's not ready to address his problems (which it sounds like he has had years to do) then it's perfectly fair for the OP to say she needs someone in her life who can be reliable. Simply put, it could be viewed as a compatability issue. On another note, if the emergency were something immediately life threatening and both he and OP were charged with n3glect (assuming they handled it exactly the same way), he could very well face a court order to get therapy. Then what would he do?

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Lindsay A
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Neither one gets a pass. I'm not waiting for a ride if it's a true emergency; I'm leaving NOW. I'm also not waiting in a car for 10 mins outside while a child is in serious pain, emergency or not. Crippling anxiety or not. Him refusing therapy and her accepting/enabling that for so long is at fault here

Deborah B
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both these adults are pretty useless. The man for sitting in the car for 10 min while a kid is in pain, and refusing to seek treatment for a compusion that is affecting his life and relationships. The woman is fairly useless too. If 10 minutes is a big deal, then why was she waiting for him to come home from work in the first place. I get not calling an ambulance - that could be hugely expensive, but why not call an uber, or ask your neighbour to drop you at the ER? She needed to be an adult for her kid, not wait for her husband to come hold her hand. He needed to get out of the f'n car or admit he had a problem and seek help.

Vykx
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't blame him for having OCD but I do blame him for not managing it. It clear that it will seriously have an impact when an emergency occurs. This is indeed a very valid concern she has and if he doesn't want to fix it she should have every right to leave him.

Abraxas59
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

erm emergencys = ambulance 🤷‍♀️cos a broken ankle like many broken bones shouldnot be moved and having now got a metal leg lol from a severly broken leg spiral break of main bone and open fracture of the ankle it chuffin hurts ! tht poor lad must have been in agony yet all she could do is go and berate her husband yta big time first point of call is 911 end off not husband that said hes got issues big time and needs help as does she ! for letting a kid suffer like she did both as bad as each other imo

Flo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, telling someone you want a divorce - via text (!!) - and then refuse to answer their messages... that's peak toddler behavior. I understand that this was a very stressful situation and the husband idling in his car is definitely no help, but if you text me you want a divorce and then go into imbecile mode, you better believe you will get that divorce 'cause I didn't marry a mentally challenged 4-year-old.

Suzie
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He has unresolved issues that unnecessarily delayed him in an emergency. At this point he would be given a choice. Therapy or divorce lawyer.

Ivona
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The husband's self-indulgent behavior would've been justified if he lived alone and didn't socialize with people. In this situation, it's unforgivable.

Bernie j. Janinsky
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Confusing situation here. On the Husband's side: This (supposed) level of trauma is caused by an incident in CHILDHOOD. For a 'grown man's to claim it is very suspicious to us. Divorce is a reasonable choice bc he needs to go back home, get therapy, & do a lot of growing up. As for OP? Your 8YO child in pain with a broken ankle and, instead of running for a neighbor, calling an ambulance or Uber, & getting an 'Old Mama Lion's move on. YOU'RE PACING AROUND, WAITING FOR 'FATHER KNOWS BEST' TO DRIVE TO THE RESCUE? We give you a tiny break that, in an emergency, sometimes the brain short circuits, but GEEZUS LOUISE, WE FEEL SORRY FOR THAT KID STUCK BETWEEN YOU TWO 'HIGH SCHOOLERS'!

Christina Vorce
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband came back after months of broken marriage and apologized for his mistake after I met lovetemple@minister.com and our infitility cure just in 3 days I am grateful this is a miracle

Fight Hypocrites
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He needs his transition time.What does he think about out there, his trauma? Doesn't sound healthy. Then he minimizes her feelings. What an infant. She's carrying 2 years of anger and frustration and HAS to let it out AT THAT MOMENT. How much more time did she waste? What a toddler. Sometimes grown ups have to delay losing their $h!t. Sometimes grown ups have to move when they're certain they're paralyzed. Sometimes we have to keep it together RIGHT NOW and fall apart after we deal with whatever the crisis is. Not before. Not during. After.

Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH for letting this go on this long. He needs to get over this if it means seeking professional help then F**king do it it. His wife clearly frustrated needed to support him in healing ages ago. And his family needs to stop enabling and making it worse. Only one who doesnt is the poor broken leg kid

Furienna
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I read these stories, I often wish that we could hear the other person's perspective too. Some people in the comments say that catching someone cheat on you isn't traumatic. Well, that is not up to you to decide as everybody doesn't work the same way. It is clearly time for this man to seek therapy, but it seems like he comes from a family that disapproves of that. Thus it would not be a natural step for him to take...

CBolt
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA Apparently the issue has existed for years, has caused problems, led to arguments, & my 1st thought was to say he needs therapy - but OP says he's refused. Granted, a broken ankle isn't life-threatening (but for all OP knew, there could have been other injuries that weren't visible) but sometimes you just reach the tipping point & enough is enough. Why would he not want to get help? He must not see it as a problem or respect the fact that his wife does & is willing to let the family be torn apart. He refers to himself as being a victim & his parents back him up, calling it his "trauma." I doubt the OP's saying she wants a divorce will be a wakeup call for him.

Miriah Williams
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is PTSD. She's the ah for many reasons here. He needs help. So esh, but she's a big ah

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Kevin Ward
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA, you should have taken the kid out to the car. Should have had kid ready to go when the transport / Dad arrived. Especially knowing he had a weird hang up. Without the hang-up, you still should have been ready to go, not waiting inside.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think she''s an AH for a variety of reasons, but it's quite possibly she could not physically carry an injured child on her own.

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Amused panda
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

10 minutes doesn't sound much when you consider he left work and drove home to pick them up. I doubt he lives just 5 minutes away. And besides which, what would have happened if he'd got stuck in traffic due to roadworks or an accident? However, whilst it is clear the husband has an issue which prevents him from going in the house without taking ten, he considered it enough of an emergency to leave work early, he must have known he wouldn't be *able* to enter the house the moment he arrived, so - unless the son needed to be carried to the car by the husband and couldn't be helped outside any other way - he should have arranged to call his wife as he was driving down the street so when he arrived she could bring her son to the car and they could leave immediately.

Joe Bloe
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That guy really believe he could act like this for the rest of his life because he is afraid of Therapy?? That guy seems to be afraid of his shadow...

Natasha Clark
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA!! OP knew he was like that for a long time & yet chose to marry him. Now the true colors come out at which he does NOT respond well to emergencies at all. His 10 minutes in the car are more important to him which is probably why his girlfriend cheated (most likely this way before the cheating). Don't get me wrong they're both AH but she chose to argue about it instead of immediately calling an ambulance for HER child.

AKA AKA
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'a broken ankle isnt serious unless the bone is showing.' THE AMOUNT OF ANGER IM FEELING TOWARDS THE YTAS RIGHT NOW😤😤😤🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😤😤😤

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, my sister broke her ankle a few years ago. No bone showing. But we live in a civilised country, so we have ambulances. She needed two surgeries, and she has a rod, several plates, and some pins in her leg now. Broken ankles can indeed be serious. And someone who falls down the stairs could have had spinal injuries. The mother was very careless.

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CatWoman1014
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ultimatum time. Either get help or divorce. Unacceptable response

kath morgan
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having to do 10 minutes sounds like ocd. He should have been getting help for his issues a long time ago, before they began to affect his life and relationships, it’s not her fault he didn’t.

Leah Brown
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm curious if he sits in his car the 10 minutes anywhere else, or just when he arrives home? Did he do that when he was living alone also? and why did she not find an alternate route to the hospital?

T'Mar of Vulcan
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Love the one commenter saying call an ambulance. Maybe they're in the States and that would bankrupt them.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many of us live in civilised countries where ambulances are part of the public services we pay taxes for. Not everyone realizes what a festering meth lab the US is.

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Neb Skram
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

SHE is the a*s son broke ankle SHE calls hubby at WORK knowing he will have to drive home, sit in car for 10 min.she knew this would happen. waiting for him to get home all the while this "emergency" is urgent but not life & death SHE had several other options to use UBER, her own car, neighbor, ambalance all would have gotter her child to hospital lots quicker than calling hubby at work. she is very much in a victim stance to make her own choices look better than they were.

Eve Mraz
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH- The dad for sitting in the car and not getting therapy sooner about his trauma, and the wife for not taking the son to the ER. If it was that big of an emergency to need to call the husband while he was at work, she should've gone next door or called an Uber or an ambulance.

Key Lime
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not his kid, not his emergency. He needs a lot of therapy.

arthbach
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In this situation, I would calmly state that he really let us down in an emergency, and it is not acceptable. It is a big deal. The condition for not divorcing him would be he must attend therapy. If he is not willing to do that, then I would not be willing to continue in the marriage.

Ephemera Image
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, but he gets no pass from me. He knows this about himself, he must have the brains to realise he could endanger other people with his little 'trauma'. How he justifies hurting other people this way is beyond me. I would not have married him for that reason. As someone mentioned, I also get tired of being the only adult in the room. Everybody has problems of one sort or another, you deal with them so they don't interfere with your, or other people's lives. He was an irresponsible a*s. And making it worse by trying to justify himself afterwards.

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KatSaidWhat
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WTF - a broken ankle IS an emergency - you want your kid to be in more pain for longer than necessary, YTA person? Husband total AH here - refusing therapy and allowing kid to suffer because of past trauma not even remotely related to this shituation. Nah, get out.

Becca not Becky
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A closed fracture, especially of the long bones, can still get pretty ugly. That was such a dumb comment by that person.

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Melissa anderson
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He refuses to seek therapy for his “trauma”. He’s using it as an excuse to control her. He’s useless in an emergency. He’s selfish and only cares about himself. Since he absolutely refuses to get therapy,I see no other option other than divorce. It’s completely on him.

Giraffy Window
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would have physically hauled his ask out of the car and told him to "wait two minutes on the curb for all I care" and taken the kid in OUR car. The YTA people saying "call an ambulance" must not know about US ambulance fees that cause even people experiencing heart attacks to argue and demand just to be driven there. The US is not a place of ready health access. To be fair, neither is Canada due to huge wait times in ER, and not enough staff... But hey, at least our taxes pay for it when we finally DO get seen... Literal days later.

Michelle Rutherford
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly this! Get out the car, you useless lump, I'm taking our kid to the hospital

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FreeTheUnicorn
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Leave him. Hes not willing to do the work to be a good parent. He doesn't think it's a big deal, and while the reason for the PTSD sounds odd, if you aren't willing to get help, you shouldn't be around kids no matter what the cause.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He doesn't have PTSD. PTSD does not limit itself tidily to a few compulsions. It spills into everything. Someone with that strong of a compulsion that they couldn't help a kid would not be functional to hold down a job. This is a weaponized behaviour he uses to control people, and he uses trauma as an excuse. I agree with you completely that he should not be around kids.

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Momogi
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

100% should leave him when he brings his family to harrass her. I hate when people start airing their business to get a justifaction and letting them bully others.

Alexandra
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He suffers from trauma. It impacts his family. He won't do anything about it, which means that he's content to let his family bear the brunt of his trauma. Not a good thing. You and your son need someone who's committed to being a good husband and father. This man isn't it, so divorce is the right option.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have severe, debilitating PTSD, and I work with a team of PTSD researchers. PTSD does not limit itself to a few compulsions. If he physically cannot get out of his car before 10 minutes, there's no way he can function well enough to work. There is something else going on.

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ॐBoyGanesh
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the noise aside, I asked my retired judge neighbor how she would have responded to a divorce hearing like this. She said his condition or excuse for sitting in the car wouldn’t be heard. If he acted as guardian for that child in any way, even by sharing a home, he had a responsibility to act in that child’s best interest no matter who else was present. She said it was neglect on his part & absolutely grounds for divorce. Also, should he have any rights to custody, guardianship or visitation with the child, his actions then would greatly affect that and only then would his “condition” be considered and it wouldn’t be towards his interest. I’m paraphrasing, but she read OPs statement, edit & responses. Bottom line: OCD or trauma isn’t an excuse to neglect getting the child medical care as timely as possible.

MR
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he's refusing therapy, he doesn't get to hide behind trauma for his behavior. There is no reason for his wife to be accepting of his absurd behavioral quirk if he's not accepting of it being an actual problem that needs to be addressed. And the child sitting there in pain is a ridiculous thing to accept just because *you* can't bring yourself to move for a specific time. I'm empathetic to his OCD (or whatever it is), but not to the fact that he's refused treatment for it. So yeah, ditch him. If you can't rely on him to be there for you, why stick around. And maybe leaving will finally get it through his head that he needs to do something about it.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't be empathetic. As someone with PTSD who also researches PTSD with a team of experts, this is not PTSD behaviour. PTSD does not limit itself neatly to a few compulsions. If he's so traumatized he cannot move from a car, he would not be able to hold down a job or function in many ways. And most PTSD sufferers are able to overcome their compulsions for a short time in an emergency. Adrenaline is powerful, and it's quick to surge in those with PTSD. I am quite certain this is a deliberate behaviour on his part that he does for his own selfish reasons and uses trauma as an excuse. That's why he's refusing treatment. He WANTS to be allowed to keep doing this because he gets some satisfaction from making people wait for him.

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The Starsong Princess
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it’s the US, then an ambulance is expensive. But she didn’t need one, her husband was right there. But the consensus is correct - therapy and demonstrate sustained improvement or divorce.

Super Beast
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like this story has missing parts. I dont get why she had to fight with her husband in an emergency while the kid was in pain. He does this thing obsessively since forever, why would she expect him to act differently this time? In this situation I think divorce is justified because he has problems he isnt addressing and this puts the family in risk. He needs to get his shiz together but honestly so does she. Priorities unprioritised all around.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She used the emergency to force the issue of his compulsion. Look how she said how it's caused them many fights in the past. Her kid got hurt, so she decided that she would prove to Husband that he could in fact get out of the car when necessary, thinking that there was no way he'd leave a child to suffer. But he didn't fall for her manipulation; he doubled down on his insistence that he is entitled to that behaviour no matter what the consequences, even if it means a suffering child. I've said in other comments my opinion on why he is like that. Frankly, that kid deserves better from both parents. I'm glad they're divorcing, and maybe her parents can teach her how to do better.

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D. Pitbull
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What kind of parent are the 'yta' people supporting? I'm fairly sure OP didn't sign up for "marriage with a partner who can't/won't be in any way reliable in an emergency, ever." 10 minutes is a *long time* when very bad things are happening. It's not like there was some sort of agreement wherein OP had said "I accept that I won't be able to rely on my partner for anything, so even though we're married, it's like I'm fending for myself anyhow - and that is how I'm accepting this marriage works."

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Calling OP an AH doesn't mean we support Husband. I think it's pretty close to universal that everyone knows Husband is an AH. But OP made some serious errors in judgment. First off, I question why she called him in am emergency, knowing he has that issue. I suspect she was using her son's injury as a way to force Husband out of the car, so to speak, to make him see he can do it. When a kid is hurt, that's not the time to get into a power struggle. Why not an ambulance (if she's in a civilised country), a neighbour, a friend, or a taxi? She speaks in her post about having guests over to dinner often enough that it's embarrassing when he sits in the car, so they obviously have people in their lives. Husband is for sure, TA, but there are reasons she could be as well.

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Amathyst Balaur
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband has a PHOBIA of bees. I have an ALLERGY to bees (I carry an epi pen). We lived in Tucson AZ (which does have killer bees). We had our windows open when we drove through a swarm of bees. His ONLY thought and action was to protect me. He quickly pulled into a convenience store and yelled at me to get out of the van. He then drove the van to the back of the store to get the bees away from me. His love and concern for me outweighed his phobia of the bees. He would have ran into the swarm to protect me. He is my hero.

Craig Reynolds
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This may be an ESH moment but, I'm focused on a potential life-or-death emergency. Imagine he was just down the road on the weekend doing an errand and her son had a life-threatening emergency, or perhaps she did herself, and her son ONLY knew to call him. That 10 minutes could be life or death. He already refused professional help so she is IMO correct to divorce him.

Scott J
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He was outside in the car. Why didn't mom take the kid out to the car so they could go to the hospital? She seems so concerned with being mad at the husband she dropped the ball in handling the emergency. At least he left work and came home. Yes, he has a mental issue and needs help. But she handled this "emergency" very poorly herself. ESH.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree that she used this emergency to force the issue of her husband's compulsion. She wanted to prove to him that he could get out of the car because she hates that he won't. In my other comments, I've explained why I think he did not (and it's not because he couldn't). Everyone indeed sucks here. Rather than prioritizing her son's wellbeing, she took the opportunity of his injury to manipulate her husband. Granted, he's a rhymes-with-wick, but she seriously dropped the ball on caring for her son.

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Aelin Wildfire
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most people work during the day: would you rather waste time banging on a dozen doors trying to find someone who can actually help you (not a little old person or someone watching very young children), or call someone who you know can be there quickly and can actually help? I don't blame her for not reaching out to the neighbors directly.

Steve Hall
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If my child were injured, I would call an ambulance or a taxi, I would not call someone home from work for a ride. If this story is real, OP had decided on a divorce before the child ever got hurt.

Darthest Starfish
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LMAO. If you even think YTA, and can justify him literally sitting quietly in a car for ten minutes while a kid is wailing in pain inside, then you're unhinged.

Terran
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's a tough situation. I say ESH. He really needs therapy and he is the AH for refusing said therapy. But what exactly is wrong with OP? She didn't do anything and waited for the husband to come home. She didn't call an ambulance, an uber or asked the neighbour. I don't think she is fully honest in this post. Did she really tell him that it's an emergency or did she just tell him her son fell down the stairs and hurt his ankle? I'm not really convinced by her story.

Amathyst Balaur
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband has a PHOBIA of bees. I am ALERGIC to bees. We drove through a swarm of bees (Arizona has killer bees) with the windows open. He immediately pulled into a store parking lot, yelled at me to get out, and drove the car behind the store to get the bees away from me. He did not let his PHOBIA out weigh my severe allergy. His first response was to protect me. He would have ran through the bees to protect me. His love outweighs his phobia. He is my hero.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I question some of OP's choices, like why she insisted Husband be the one to come and drive her to the hospital, especially if she has decent neighbours. Most people don't hesitate to help a parent with an injured child. Her priority should have been getting Son to the hospital as fast as possible. Broken bones HURT. I cannot fathom why she'd wait a moment longer than necessary to get Son medical attention. It looks to me like she was using this emergency to force the issue of Husband's wait-in-the-car compulsion to crisis point, either to test him or to make him see that yes, he can get out of the car when he must. He failed the test. I understand why this is grounds for divorce. You must be able to count on your partner in an emergency, and he's refused treatment for this issue. But I also think it was cruel of her to prioritize her power struggle with Husband over the needs of Son.

JK
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude walked in on his ex-wife *cheating* she didn't st@b him or anything - that is *not* "trauma" - this dude has far worse neurosis and to refuse to attempt any help for this issue, is entirely on him and his *choice* to live with his issue. Everyone is jumping on the wrong fact - this time it was a kid with a broken ankle, what if next time it's a head injury? Broken back? Choking incident? And this neurotic idiot is still *counting down 10 whole minutes* - I'm sorry, I'm all for supporting mental health issues, but for crying out loud if you don't *try* to help yourself then no one else *can* help

Roberta Surprenant
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

F the idiots saying YTA and just call an ambulance, are they going to pay the ambulance bill?

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In civilised countries, we don't have to pay for ambulances. That's why we pay those things called taxes.

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Jaya
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Confused by the comments saying she should have called an ambulance. Do ambulance really come for a broken ankle? I really doubt that. Ambulances aren't taxis to the hospital, they are hospitals on wheels. Meant to keep you alive on the way to the hospital. They need to keep those available for people in serious danger, they can't just send those out for anyone who doesn't have a ride.

Raphapablap
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the civilised world they kinda are. What they aren't for is calling for non-emergencies like having a cold or headache.

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️️Upvote faery️
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is definitely YTA!! Why didn't she just call an ambulance or a neighbour to go to the hospital? Why wait for someone who is at work to get home when an ambulance is a quick call away and likely will get there faster?!? OP set this up to prove to herself what she already thinks. Way to shift the blame and not take ANY responsibility herself! She even took the time to argue and yell at him WHILE HER SON WAS WAITING TO GO TO THE FREAKING HOSPITAL!!!!! He needs therapy, yes, so does OP! I mean, why not have the kid ready to go once he got there? Why didn't she just bring her son out to the car so they could get going? Because she had to stop and argue her point.

Scotty
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is definitely an "a$$hole" yet she should absolutely get a divorce. Her husband deserves to be married to a sane, empathetic, caring person.

Louise Brown
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once again the YTA bunch is out here making no f'kn sense 😂 you just know theyre the same ones who are useless in an emergency themselves because they think the world revolves around them and their "boundaries"

Meagan Glaser
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gotta love the YTA that can't seem to comprehend that OP was waiting FOR THE CAR Not every family has more than one car, and in the US not every family can afford several thousand dollars to take an ambulance

Jennifer Lynn
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Too many people not understanding how much an ambulance costs in the U.S. And maybe a taxi or Uber costs too much or isn't available where they live.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have debilitating PTSD that causes me some major compulsions and behavioural issues, but I have always been able to shove them back when an emergency arises. I might break down afterward, but I can override the internal triggers when the adrenaline hits. That's what it's for. If this guy is functional enough to hold down a job and live a relatively normal life, there's no way his PTSD is so bad that he's literally unable to get out of the car to help with an injured child. The condition doesn't work like that. Husband is selfish AF, and he's weaponized his "trauma" as a power move to make others dance to his tune and prove his own importance. He wanted his wife to show that she cared more about his feelings than her son's wellbeing. When one has PTSD, it is that person's responsibility to get the treatment they need to function. Fine if he likes 10 minutes in the car on a regular day to unwind before coming into the house. Not when someone needs a ride to the hospital.

Furienna
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't you think that PTSD works differently for different people though?

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Sarah Léon
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have so much difficulty leaving my home. I'm only feeling good in my house, with my pets and my computer. I hate when I have to go outside, even more when it's for a few days like seeing my family, and even even more if I don't have time to prepare myself. It can easily trigger some anxiety and panic attacks. But when my aunt called me to tell me my father was in the hospital 800km from me, I put some clothes in a suitcase and I just went. On the road, I called my friends to take care of my cats. I can understand traumas and OCDs and all, but if you can't go over them in case of emergency, then you need help. And if you refuse help, then you are a really deep AH and nobody can count on you ever.

Furienna
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You might be able to do the impossible in an emergency, but it doesn't mean that everybody can.

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J. Maxx
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm with the person up above who stated the OP should have called a damn UBER instead of making her baby wait in f*****g pain for her looser husband to come home. I feel for the kid cause he's got two dipshits in his life. Well, one now that his dingleberry mother has divorced the nutjob. Oh, for those of you who are SJW's I have mental health issues, so don't bother coming for me.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have serious PTSD and I am disgusted with the parents. I've repeated enough in earlier comments why I don't think the husband's compulsion is real. OP should have called an ambulance for the child's safety. A broken limb should be properly immobolized in situ before someone's moved. And if he fell down the stairs, they should have taken spinal precautions. If an ambulance was impossible, she should have asked a neighbour. But I really think this was more about a power struggle between the husband and wife than concern over the kid.

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Royal Stray
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn't even fully a trauma thing, it's a coping mechanism he's calmly aware of and refusing not to break. It's not like he has problems not overreacting, or gets angry over nothing, or starts to panic at small things. He does this to himself, and since he refuses therapy I wonder if he does it by choice. If it was involuntary, like he'll get a panic attack if he doesn't then I'd understand. But it sounds like he just wants to mentally prepare himself. In normal case, sure if it works. But in an emergency, no. It's more to do with him being selfish especially since he refuses to get help

Nimitz
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the people complaining about the husband... Once you get locked into PTSD behavior it's incredibly difficult to break. Simply "getting help/treatment" usually isn't possible without intense and incredibly difficult work and often seeking that help is a MASSIVE hurdle in the first place. People without the disorder are incapable of understanding, but these behaviors are pretty much permanently locked in. It really isn't possible to choose to do what other people want. Arguing about it will only make the problem worse and further cement the behavior. It takes a great deal of time and effort to crack that, and his partner obviously doesn't understand or care about his reality

Becca not Becky
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While your statement has a lot of truth to it, almost all of us with mental health conditions reach a point in life where we either need to deal with it or face the natural consequences of not dealing with it. Failing to respond properly to a family emergency is pretty significant. If he's not ready to address his problems (which it sounds like he has had years to do) then it's perfectly fair for the OP to say she needs someone in her life who can be reliable. Simply put, it could be viewed as a compatability issue. On another note, if the emergency were something immediately life threatening and both he and OP were charged with n3glect (assuming they handled it exactly the same way), he could very well face a court order to get therapy. Then what would he do?

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Lindsay A
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Neither one gets a pass. I'm not waiting for a ride if it's a true emergency; I'm leaving NOW. I'm also not waiting in a car for 10 mins outside while a child is in serious pain, emergency or not. Crippling anxiety or not. Him refusing therapy and her accepting/enabling that for so long is at fault here

Deborah B
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both these adults are pretty useless. The man for sitting in the car for 10 min while a kid is in pain, and refusing to seek treatment for a compusion that is affecting his life and relationships. The woman is fairly useless too. If 10 minutes is a big deal, then why was she waiting for him to come home from work in the first place. I get not calling an ambulance - that could be hugely expensive, but why not call an uber, or ask your neighbour to drop you at the ER? She needed to be an adult for her kid, not wait for her husband to come hold her hand. He needed to get out of the f'n car or admit he had a problem and seek help.

Vykx
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't blame him for having OCD but I do blame him for not managing it. It clear that it will seriously have an impact when an emergency occurs. This is indeed a very valid concern she has and if he doesn't want to fix it she should have every right to leave him.

Abraxas59
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

erm emergencys = ambulance 🤷‍♀️cos a broken ankle like many broken bones shouldnot be moved and having now got a metal leg lol from a severly broken leg spiral break of main bone and open fracture of the ankle it chuffin hurts ! tht poor lad must have been in agony yet all she could do is go and berate her husband yta big time first point of call is 911 end off not husband that said hes got issues big time and needs help as does she ! for letting a kid suffer like she did both as bad as each other imo

Flo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, telling someone you want a divorce - via text (!!) - and then refuse to answer their messages... that's peak toddler behavior. I understand that this was a very stressful situation and the husband idling in his car is definitely no help, but if you text me you want a divorce and then go into imbecile mode, you better believe you will get that divorce 'cause I didn't marry a mentally challenged 4-year-old.

Suzie
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He has unresolved issues that unnecessarily delayed him in an emergency. At this point he would be given a choice. Therapy or divorce lawyer.

Ivona
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The husband's self-indulgent behavior would've been justified if he lived alone and didn't socialize with people. In this situation, it's unforgivable.

Bernie j. Janinsky
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Confusing situation here. On the Husband's side: This (supposed) level of trauma is caused by an incident in CHILDHOOD. For a 'grown man's to claim it is very suspicious to us. Divorce is a reasonable choice bc he needs to go back home, get therapy, & do a lot of growing up. As for OP? Your 8YO child in pain with a broken ankle and, instead of running for a neighbor, calling an ambulance or Uber, & getting an 'Old Mama Lion's move on. YOU'RE PACING AROUND, WAITING FOR 'FATHER KNOWS BEST' TO DRIVE TO THE RESCUE? We give you a tiny break that, in an emergency, sometimes the brain short circuits, but GEEZUS LOUISE, WE FEEL SORRY FOR THAT KID STUCK BETWEEN YOU TWO 'HIGH SCHOOLERS'!

Christina Vorce
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband came back after months of broken marriage and apologized for his mistake after I met lovetemple@minister.com and our infitility cure just in 3 days I am grateful this is a miracle

Fight Hypocrites
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He needs his transition time.What does he think about out there, his trauma? Doesn't sound healthy. Then he minimizes her feelings. What an infant. She's carrying 2 years of anger and frustration and HAS to let it out AT THAT MOMENT. How much more time did she waste? What a toddler. Sometimes grown ups have to delay losing their $h!t. Sometimes grown ups have to move when they're certain they're paralyzed. Sometimes we have to keep it together RIGHT NOW and fall apart after we deal with whatever the crisis is. Not before. Not during. After.

Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH for letting this go on this long. He needs to get over this if it means seeking professional help then F**king do it it. His wife clearly frustrated needed to support him in healing ages ago. And his family needs to stop enabling and making it worse. Only one who doesnt is the poor broken leg kid

Furienna
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I read these stories, I often wish that we could hear the other person's perspective too. Some people in the comments say that catching someone cheat on you isn't traumatic. Well, that is not up to you to decide as everybody doesn't work the same way. It is clearly time for this man to seek therapy, but it seems like he comes from a family that disapproves of that. Thus it would not be a natural step for him to take...

CBolt
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA Apparently the issue has existed for years, has caused problems, led to arguments, & my 1st thought was to say he needs therapy - but OP says he's refused. Granted, a broken ankle isn't life-threatening (but for all OP knew, there could have been other injuries that weren't visible) but sometimes you just reach the tipping point & enough is enough. Why would he not want to get help? He must not see it as a problem or respect the fact that his wife does & is willing to let the family be torn apart. He refers to himself as being a victim & his parents back him up, calling it his "trauma." I doubt the OP's saying she wants a divorce will be a wakeup call for him.

Miriah Williams
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is PTSD. She's the ah for many reasons here. He needs help. So esh, but she's a big ah

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Kevin Ward
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA, you should have taken the kid out to the car. Should have had kid ready to go when the transport / Dad arrived. Especially knowing he had a weird hang up. Without the hang-up, you still should have been ready to go, not waiting inside.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think she''s an AH for a variety of reasons, but it's quite possibly she could not physically carry an injured child on her own.

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Amused panda
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

10 minutes doesn't sound much when you consider he left work and drove home to pick them up. I doubt he lives just 5 minutes away. And besides which, what would have happened if he'd got stuck in traffic due to roadworks or an accident? However, whilst it is clear the husband has an issue which prevents him from going in the house without taking ten, he considered it enough of an emergency to leave work early, he must have known he wouldn't be *able* to enter the house the moment he arrived, so - unless the son needed to be carried to the car by the husband and couldn't be helped outside any other way - he should have arranged to call his wife as he was driving down the street so when he arrived she could bring her son to the car and they could leave immediately.

Joe Bloe
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That guy really believe he could act like this for the rest of his life because he is afraid of Therapy?? That guy seems to be afraid of his shadow...

Natasha Clark
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA!! OP knew he was like that for a long time & yet chose to marry him. Now the true colors come out at which he does NOT respond well to emergencies at all. His 10 minutes in the car are more important to him which is probably why his girlfriend cheated (most likely this way before the cheating). Don't get me wrong they're both AH but she chose to argue about it instead of immediately calling an ambulance for HER child.

AKA AKA
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'a broken ankle isnt serious unless the bone is showing.' THE AMOUNT OF ANGER IM FEELING TOWARDS THE YTAS RIGHT NOW😤😤😤🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😤😤😤

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, my sister broke her ankle a few years ago. No bone showing. But we live in a civilised country, so we have ambulances. She needed two surgeries, and she has a rod, several plates, and some pins in her leg now. Broken ankles can indeed be serious. And someone who falls down the stairs could have had spinal injuries. The mother was very careless.

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CatWoman1014
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ultimatum time. Either get help or divorce. Unacceptable response

kath morgan
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having to do 10 minutes sounds like ocd. He should have been getting help for his issues a long time ago, before they began to affect his life and relationships, it’s not her fault he didn’t.

Leah Brown
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm curious if he sits in his car the 10 minutes anywhere else, or just when he arrives home? Did he do that when he was living alone also? and why did she not find an alternate route to the hospital?

T'Mar of Vulcan
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Love the one commenter saying call an ambulance. Maybe they're in the States and that would bankrupt them.

Insomniac
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many of us live in civilised countries where ambulances are part of the public services we pay taxes for. Not everyone realizes what a festering meth lab the US is.

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Neb Skram
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

SHE is the a*s son broke ankle SHE calls hubby at WORK knowing he will have to drive home, sit in car for 10 min.she knew this would happen. waiting for him to get home all the while this "emergency" is urgent but not life & death SHE had several other options to use UBER, her own car, neighbor, ambalance all would have gotter her child to hospital lots quicker than calling hubby at work. she is very much in a victim stance to make her own choices look better than they were.

Eve Mraz
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH- The dad for sitting in the car and not getting therapy sooner about his trauma, and the wife for not taking the son to the ER. If it was that big of an emergency to need to call the husband while he was at work, she should've gone next door or called an Uber or an ambulance.

Key Lime
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not his kid, not his emergency. He needs a lot of therapy.

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