The ending was nice.

If someone tells you that their opinion doesn't matter over and over while you keep pressing, be sure of one thing: you won't like their opinion. Yes, he could have been more tactful. But once you press hard for honesty, you don't get to act hurt over it when they give it. Having said that, clearly there was a communication gap going on in which she was hurting over not being able to have kids. Counseling will be a winner for these two given their willingness to communicate better.

I'm glad they're talking now. His answer may not have been diplomatic, but he's a good listener and is willing to change based on what he hears. So is she. Couples go through crises, but the good ones work things through by communicating and compromising.

I propose a new category for these! NYBS - not your best self. I feel like there is being an a*****e and then there is not being your best self. Sometimes calling someone an a*****e is not being your best self. I realize I should promote this on Reddit and not here but I don’t go on Reddit. This is a great example of husband being pretty great and then having a NYBS moment…which, with advice, he rectified and they both were able to make a great move forward together. NYBS, people. NAH.

Awesome, empathetic, listening husband. Way to go, man!

I get that some don't feel the need to shower every day (can be detrimental to skin to shower too often) and I am guilty myself of not always shaving my legs or armpits (single and pale as f**k so I often just wear long sleeves and pants to prevent sunburn), but there is the matter of personal hygiene. Even without showering every day (unless there's a heatwave it's every other day for me) you should wash certain areas with water every day (armpits, feet, groin, face).

Your wife is incredibly immature to insist on hearing your opinion and THEN sulking. I naturally don't tend to advocate sulking, but if there HAS to be a sulker in the house, then it should be you for the stupid stunt she pulled, and that's before considering you being stuck with a rank room mate.

I'm glad it worked out for them, nice to hear a semi-happy ending. I don't get how he was rude though. He simply stated he missed the woman he married, who was clean and took care of herself. What has showering and brushing your hair got to do with 'detoxing' - not that there is such a thing!. But she obviously is depressed about not being able to have kids.

It sounds like there is a mental health issue here, even if neither one of them think so.

A little more communication between them would probably improve everything.

She could still shower with nontoxic products. The sad truth is many products have endocrine disrupting ingredients, so she’s right to avoid chemicals.

Man knows his opinion is gonna hurt her feelings, therefore keeping to himself. She is unable to leave it at that and THINKS she wants to know the truth - which she obviously doesn't. He then gets called a jerk... you really can't win as a man when a woman starts going crazy like that.

Mmm nothing like getting intimate with someone who hasn't showered in a few days. Yes she said she does shower when she feels dirty but how long is that? A day? A week?

Many, many people don't shower every day and it's not needed unless you work in a grubby environment. That's a capitalism "create a problem and offer the solution" tactic. Stripping all the oils out of your hair and skin every day so that you have to buy their products to put it all back in again, only to be told that you need to strip it all away again the next day? That's capitalism. I can see why she would reject that. But using rubbing alcohol or crystal deodorant is not a toxic thing. Brushing your hair is not a toxic thing. Shaving your body is not a toxic thing (especially if you refuse to buy specialty products for it and just use good old fashioned soap). Having a clear water "bidet treatment" before intimacy does not put chemicals into your body. I get her motivation, but it's not an all or nothing thing. There are many things you can do to keep looking and feeling fresh without buying into the chemical miasma of capitalism.

IMO, a change in hygiene habits, e.g. not showering regularly, is always related to depression. It would have been better had the LW known this and pushed her to get a qualified mental health professional see her as soon as this started. She unknowingly was trying to treat herself, through a "de-tox" as she tied how she felt to what she thought might help. Truly, OMOP severely depressed people just don't give a damn how they present themselves to others....maybe it's a cry for help.

What a beautiful but sad ending. Poor lady suffering in silence, poor husband suffering from the stinky results. There are Many natural products for washing and particularly deodorant. I use Wild. Planet friendly, nature friendly, chemical free and it smells bloody AMAZING! I'm so very relieved the outcome here and absolutely commend his compassion, understanding and love for his wife ❤️

I had to copy down that first answer, wow

Many dermatologists advise showering less than once a day. Most might say twice a week. As for shaving and wearing makeup, I would suggest he shave the same body parts and wear makeup himself if he likes it so much.

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Divorce and move on while you still have a lot of time left to start over.