“My Husband Is Heartbroken”: Son Refuses To Pay Dad’s Bills After Harsh Punishment In His Teens
How a parent chooses to punish their kids is, within reason, up to them. Doing the discipline dance with your children can be fraught with danger though, especially if the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Some parents find this out the hard way.
For one woman, her and her husband’s decision to withhold birthday presents for their teen son’s 16th and 17th birthday came back to bite them. Now that their son is in his twenties and they desperately need money for medical bills, he’s cut them off entirely.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold, as this woman and her husband found out much to their chagrin
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When he was a teen, the couple punished their son for bullying a kid at school by withholding his birthday presents for two years in a row
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Now that their son is in his mid-twenties and earning well, the couple asked for his help to pay his dad’s medical bills
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Their son told them to get lost in no uncertain terms, but the dad wouldn’t stop pestering him
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The woman has begged her husband to quit asking, fearing it will drive their son away even further, but turned to the web to ask if doing so was a jerk move
OP begins her story by telling the community that she and her husband have always had a complicated relationship with their son, but he’s very close to his aunts. According to OP, when her son was a teen, he got into hot water for bullying someone at school. Not knowing how to handle this, OP and her husband decided to withhold his birthday gifts for two years in a row.
Following this, OP says their son became more distant and even told them coldly that one day they’d regret their actions.
Now that he’s 24 and financially secure, OP says that her son has cut them off entirely. She adds that, recently, her husband had a medical emergency, leaving them with a mountain of bills. Struggling to cope, the couple reached out to their son for help. He flatly refused, crushing his dad who is apparently filled with regret about how they treated him in the past.
OP goes on to say that their son has what she calls “a peculiar tendency” to spoil all the women he considers family, most pointedly his dad’s younger sisters, upon whom he lavishes attention and financial support. The sisters have helped out OP and her husband from time to time, but OP thinks they’re hesitant to do more in case they jeopardize their close relationship with OP’s son.
According to OP, her husband is heartbroken because every time he reaches out to their son for help or to try to fix things, he’s met with anger or silence. Now, finally, OP has pleaded with her husband to stop asking their son for money, fearing it will drive him even further away from reconciliation.
OP concludes her post by sharing that her husband is upset with her and has accused her of giving up on their son, but she doesn’t know what else to do, and wonders if she’s the jerk in the family drama.
From what she tells us in her post, it would seem that OP, and to a greater extent, her husband feel entitled to a portion of their grown son’s wealth, despite their harsh treatment of him when he was a developing adult.
But what, if anything, does the son owe his parents? And is there any way for OP and her husband to repair the relationship with him? We went looking for answers.
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In her post for the Institute for Family Studies, Ashley McGuire writes that it would seem that at the root of familial breakdown is a lost sense of obligation: husbands and wives to each other, parents to their children, and children to their parents.
McGuire goes on to add that a culture steeped in radical individualism has given people license to abandon their most fundamental obligations to their primary communities: their families.
Despite this, most children are surprisingly keen to help their folks out. Nearly two-thirds of children surveyed say they plan to provide their parents with at least some financial aid. The same percentage of those surveyed said they were even willing to let their parents stay with them once they retire.
If OP and her husband hadn’t been so reckless with their punishment when their son was in his teens, who knows, they might have been reaping the benefits now that he’s older and they need the help. Is there anything they can do to turn things around?
In her article for HuffPost, Marie Holmes writes that, if you’re hoping to reconnect with an adult child who you’ve became estranged from, you should do your own work before reaching out, respect your child’s boundaries, be prepared to listen, and, crucially, show them that you see their perspective.
Only time (and a lot of soul searching) will tell if OP and her husband can mend fences with their rightfully disdainful son. Perhaps they should start with an apology rather than a demand.
Do you think OP’s son is justified in his treatment of his parents? Who’s acting most like a jerk in this unpleasant situation? Let us know your opinion in the comments!
In the comments, readers slammed the woman for her disingenuous post and agreed that both parents were money-hungry jerks with no plans for real reconciliation
There's nothing OP can do aside from live in the dumpster they built for themselves. A child bully is signs that something is wrong in the family home, the parents are part of the problem, and it needs to be addressed seriously. These shìte parents took ZERO responsibility and punished a kid in need of help, in an incredibly mean way. "You screwed up kid so we're not gonna celebrate your existence." 😡 I used to have my bday taken away after the age of 10 (cuz my mom is a piece of shìt), and every single missed bday cut deeper and deeper.
I mean... OP could try reaching out and admitung what they dud was wring and talk without any monetary requests... its not goung to make up for what they did but it's a start to build a new realationship. Even if it would never be as strong as it could have been.
Load More Replies...This was quite the story, but clearly not the full story. Sometimes the bridges we thoughtlessly burn can never be rebuilt.
New bridges can be built, I learned that. My father had to rebuild the bridge after disinheriting me because he misunderstood what I said to my aunt about his dead wife who I had a tumultuous relationship with and got me kicked out of the house. Then he nearly died and realised that actually I am still his daughter. It's still not the closest relationship but it's good.
Load More Replies...If they didn't give him birthday presents for his 16th and 17th, I'm pretty sure he was asked to either contribute a fair bit on his 18th or move out. OP is lying and obfuscating. I missed a few birthday presents and parties due to poverty first and my parents not being into it later as dad was JW initially and old habits die hard. I didn't hold it against them, I loved them and my friends always envied our close relationship wishing their parents were more like mine. It takes more than a loss of gifts to create a rift like this even if it's a misguided deliberate punishment.
I feel like there is SO much information missing from this post. Your son goes no contact after 2 missed birthday presents? Not buying it. The fact that you admit your son was a bully in school means he was bullied at home. It is definitely a learned behavior. Hurt people in turn hurt people.
Some bullies are reacting to hurt, some are just jerks. But you're right in that information is missing. Two missed birthdays in a row could mean that the parents held their disappointment for well over a year and it likely bled into their behaviour towards their son.
Load More Replies...Sometimes understanding the reasons behind bad behaviour is way more successful in terms of dealing with it than punishment. I had a similar issue at work: I wouldn't feel comfortable in some "soft skills" sessions, and would sulk and not join in, and disciplinary action was taken. A more enlightened boss sent me to talk to someone, and I realised it was because I was getting defensive due to being an introvert. We came to an understanding on how to deal with it (if you're interested, telling me in advance what was going to happen in the session was a great help). Some teenagers may be beyond help, but I suspect many would benefit from somebody listening to them and trying to understand WHY they're behaving like they are.
"Our son has always had a complicated relationship with us" - that speaks VOLUMES. There is so much in this about how the father regrets how he treated his son, but aside from one example, OP is purposefully leaving out quite a lot, while trying to garner sympathy. This, ironically, leads to much less sympathy, if any (from me, anyway).
OP's son needed therapy back in the day to find out *why* he bullied that person. He didn't get it. So instead of the parents *talking* to him to find out what was going on, they withheld birthday gifts for 2 years. I don't blame the son - FAFO, OP. OP + hubs are lucky their son talks to them AT ALL.
In most cases, bullying is caused due to home life stress and not having a healthy way to cope with it. There is something more than what they are telling.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Hurt people, and those people are going to remember it.
The missing missing reasons. When abusive parents cannot even admit what they did to cause this, there is no way to fix it.
The two years of no birthday presents was only the icing on the cake. Most bullies are bullies due to issues at home. The trouble started a long time ago.
We need money..oh what a good time to regret past..how should anyone believe this regret is not moneybased?
Perish the thought! One should let bygones be bygones. After all, fa-a-a-a-mily is fa-a-a-a-mily, and fa-a-a-a-mily should always help fa-a-a-a-mily. /s
Load More Replies...I am on his side. It feels like they only want him for his money and even manipulates relatives against him. And who punishes someone for bullying by not giving any presents for two straight years? He is right for cutting them out of his life. They are the AH
Sorry but you said you always had a "complicated" relationship with your son. Did you ever think that maybe that " complicated" relationship was more negative than you thought ? Maybe he was having other problems as well. Parents don't know their kids as well as they think. From my personal experience when I was younger,my parents treated me horribly.( I'm disabled) Played favorites and barely knew the real me. Their " tough love " actually backfired, ruined my life and caused me to be abused even worse. I now am a multiple SA survivor different times, different places, different perps. I am a domestic violence survivor. I live in poverty and can't afford to fend for or take care of myself. I have had multiple toxic relationships etc. I barely trust most people. I cut off 90% of my relatives ,hate my sister and my health is getting worse. I even years later still have PTSD and can't go certain places because of my parents" tough love " without having panic attacks. My mom has selective memory. Maybe you and your husband are making light of his experience. He probably was troubled and needed help and you didn't see it. Does your husband regret his behavior or regret it because he needs money? Honestly he could have made amends so many times years ago if he was sorry but never made the effort. Now he needs money he feels sorry all of the sudden? Either way,your son is not obligated to pay your bills. Your husband is not entitled to ANYTHING just because he is related to the son. I know he's going to pull the " but family" guilt trip card but it doesn't work that way. Your son doesn't have to be a doormat. Your husband treated him badly and doesn't deserve a break because he has made no effort to be family. Your husband has to earn the privilege of being family. Your husband acted like an AH. If you act like an AH, you get treated like an AH. Tell your husband that he needs to quit hassling your son for money. He needs to take NO for an answer.
Getting back in contact to get money is always going to meet with a f**k off. Rightly so.
Missing missing reasons here for sure. There is a lot more to this story and either the parents wont admit what they did or don't even recognise what it was.
just accept that you lost your son and move the F on already. you have so many issues letting go.
That was a harsh punishment especially if the son made amends to the bullied girl, but something tells me it was not the only time that his parents were huge a******s towards him. They get what they get and they don’t get upset.
Most kids don't bully others without a reason and that reason, when unpacked, generally involves something lacking at home, especially when they are 16 or 17, when most high school kids have other things going on. OP and the husband are AH because when they do finally reach out, its for money. Its too late not, but maybe reach out and ask to meet for coffee instead of cash.
There's nothing OP can do aside from live in the dumpster they built for themselves. A child bully is signs that something is wrong in the family home, the parents are part of the problem, and it needs to be addressed seriously. These shìte parents took ZERO responsibility and punished a kid in need of help, in an incredibly mean way. "You screwed up kid so we're not gonna celebrate your existence." 😡 I used to have my bday taken away after the age of 10 (cuz my mom is a piece of shìt), and every single missed bday cut deeper and deeper.
I mean... OP could try reaching out and admitung what they dud was wring and talk without any monetary requests... its not goung to make up for what they did but it's a start to build a new realationship. Even if it would never be as strong as it could have been.
Load More Replies...This was quite the story, but clearly not the full story. Sometimes the bridges we thoughtlessly burn can never be rebuilt.
New bridges can be built, I learned that. My father had to rebuild the bridge after disinheriting me because he misunderstood what I said to my aunt about his dead wife who I had a tumultuous relationship with and got me kicked out of the house. Then he nearly died and realised that actually I am still his daughter. It's still not the closest relationship but it's good.
Load More Replies...If they didn't give him birthday presents for his 16th and 17th, I'm pretty sure he was asked to either contribute a fair bit on his 18th or move out. OP is lying and obfuscating. I missed a few birthday presents and parties due to poverty first and my parents not being into it later as dad was JW initially and old habits die hard. I didn't hold it against them, I loved them and my friends always envied our close relationship wishing their parents were more like mine. It takes more than a loss of gifts to create a rift like this even if it's a misguided deliberate punishment.
I feel like there is SO much information missing from this post. Your son goes no contact after 2 missed birthday presents? Not buying it. The fact that you admit your son was a bully in school means he was bullied at home. It is definitely a learned behavior. Hurt people in turn hurt people.
Some bullies are reacting to hurt, some are just jerks. But you're right in that information is missing. Two missed birthdays in a row could mean that the parents held their disappointment for well over a year and it likely bled into their behaviour towards their son.
Load More Replies...Sometimes understanding the reasons behind bad behaviour is way more successful in terms of dealing with it than punishment. I had a similar issue at work: I wouldn't feel comfortable in some "soft skills" sessions, and would sulk and not join in, and disciplinary action was taken. A more enlightened boss sent me to talk to someone, and I realised it was because I was getting defensive due to being an introvert. We came to an understanding on how to deal with it (if you're interested, telling me in advance what was going to happen in the session was a great help). Some teenagers may be beyond help, but I suspect many would benefit from somebody listening to them and trying to understand WHY they're behaving like they are.
"Our son has always had a complicated relationship with us" - that speaks VOLUMES. There is so much in this about how the father regrets how he treated his son, but aside from one example, OP is purposefully leaving out quite a lot, while trying to garner sympathy. This, ironically, leads to much less sympathy, if any (from me, anyway).
OP's son needed therapy back in the day to find out *why* he bullied that person. He didn't get it. So instead of the parents *talking* to him to find out what was going on, they withheld birthday gifts for 2 years. I don't blame the son - FAFO, OP. OP + hubs are lucky their son talks to them AT ALL.
In most cases, bullying is caused due to home life stress and not having a healthy way to cope with it. There is something more than what they are telling.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Hurt people, and those people are going to remember it.
The missing missing reasons. When abusive parents cannot even admit what they did to cause this, there is no way to fix it.
The two years of no birthday presents was only the icing on the cake. Most bullies are bullies due to issues at home. The trouble started a long time ago.
We need money..oh what a good time to regret past..how should anyone believe this regret is not moneybased?
Perish the thought! One should let bygones be bygones. After all, fa-a-a-a-mily is fa-a-a-a-mily, and fa-a-a-a-mily should always help fa-a-a-a-mily. /s
Load More Replies...I am on his side. It feels like they only want him for his money and even manipulates relatives against him. And who punishes someone for bullying by not giving any presents for two straight years? He is right for cutting them out of his life. They are the AH
Sorry but you said you always had a "complicated" relationship with your son. Did you ever think that maybe that " complicated" relationship was more negative than you thought ? Maybe he was having other problems as well. Parents don't know their kids as well as they think. From my personal experience when I was younger,my parents treated me horribly.( I'm disabled) Played favorites and barely knew the real me. Their " tough love " actually backfired, ruined my life and caused me to be abused even worse. I now am a multiple SA survivor different times, different places, different perps. I am a domestic violence survivor. I live in poverty and can't afford to fend for or take care of myself. I have had multiple toxic relationships etc. I barely trust most people. I cut off 90% of my relatives ,hate my sister and my health is getting worse. I even years later still have PTSD and can't go certain places because of my parents" tough love " without having panic attacks. My mom has selective memory. Maybe you and your husband are making light of his experience. He probably was troubled and needed help and you didn't see it. Does your husband regret his behavior or regret it because he needs money? Honestly he could have made amends so many times years ago if he was sorry but never made the effort. Now he needs money he feels sorry all of the sudden? Either way,your son is not obligated to pay your bills. Your husband is not entitled to ANYTHING just because he is related to the son. I know he's going to pull the " but family" guilt trip card but it doesn't work that way. Your son doesn't have to be a doormat. Your husband treated him badly and doesn't deserve a break because he has made no effort to be family. Your husband has to earn the privilege of being family. Your husband acted like an AH. If you act like an AH, you get treated like an AH. Tell your husband that he needs to quit hassling your son for money. He needs to take NO for an answer.
Getting back in contact to get money is always going to meet with a f**k off. Rightly so.
Missing missing reasons here for sure. There is a lot more to this story and either the parents wont admit what they did or don't even recognise what it was.
just accept that you lost your son and move the F on already. you have so many issues letting go.
That was a harsh punishment especially if the son made amends to the bullied girl, but something tells me it was not the only time that his parents were huge a******s towards him. They get what they get and they don’t get upset.
Most kids don't bully others without a reason and that reason, when unpacked, generally involves something lacking at home, especially when they are 16 or 17, when most high school kids have other things going on. OP and the husband are AH because when they do finally reach out, its for money. Its too late not, but maybe reach out and ask to meet for coffee instead of cash.
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