Plot holes happen, but what are the ones that make no sense or infuriate you the most?

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All time travel movies. Yes, some are amazing, but if you go back in time to fix something, and you fix it, then the you in the present would have no reason to go back in time, so then you WOULDN'T have gone back in time, and it's just a huge messy mess that hurts my brain to think about. I pretty much just enjoy the movie, and try not to think about the nuances.

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#2

In barbie princess charm school. THE UNIFORMS

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Marvel's time travel and Nexus points (variants and multiverse) for Endgame/ the Loki series. The Avengers travel to different points in time where they know the now destroyed stones to be. Ant-Man, Iron Man and Cap go back to 2012 to get the tesseract but 2012 Hulk messes up the plan and Loki disappears with the tesseract, causing Cap and Iron Man to go farther back in time. But in Loki, they explain that while the Avengers were meant to time travel on the sacred timeline, Loki should've never in fact gotten ahold of the tesseract, which means he stepped off his path, and now he is a variant. Excuse me, but if the Avengers travel was part of the sacred timeline, and they aren't now variants bc they had to go back farther in time to get the tesseract, then that means Loki is NOT a variant, and he did exactly what he was supposed to do. Bc he took the tesseract, he caused Cap and Iron Man to go farther back in time, give Stark a chance to talk to his dad one more time, Cap got to see Peggy, and added bonus, they were able to take pym particles, which allowed for more time travel. All of this is supposed to happen according to the show, Loki! Also, Gamora was supposed to die for Thanos to be able to get the soul stone, but then she time travels to the future and gets to stay alive? How is she not a variant? She steps off her path for the sacred timeline. Oh, and the point where they take the power stone from on the timeline is right before Quill gets to it (In GotG Vol 1) which is the point where Gamora, Quill, Drax, Rocket and Groot all meet for the first time, end up in prison, and end up bonding together. But if Gamora never meets Quill and goes to the future, even if they put the power stone back in its place, they never meet up and form that team, so the first Thanos snap would've never happened in the first place. (Since past her is in the future, there's no way Thanos would've had access to the Soul stone since she was the only one who knew its location, and also bc she was apparently the only thing Thanos loved that he could sacrifice for the stone). Oh, and Cap going back to the past to live out his life with Peggy. How in the world does that not make him or her a variant? It changes the course of the future since we know Peggy eventually married and was happy, but then all of that is erased bc Cap went back to her. And it couldn't be a different timeline, bc Old Cap is sitting on the bench not far from the time machine, IN THEIR TIMELINE. Makes no sense, it hurts my brain, and I think that every movie with time travel ends up having major plot holes. It doesn't matter how you try to fix them or explain them.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with you about everything, Marvel is just crazy overall if you ever think about it (which is why I often don't) but I have a conspiracy theory for you. What if Loki wasn't actually a variant? If the Timemaster can see everything that happens in the future, what if he knew that for the world to go on, Loki had to get into the position he is in. What if there aren't actually variants, but rather this entire great timeline is just something that the person orchestrating this all made up, because they knew that if people didn't believe in it. Maybe that person knew that if things didn't go that way, then the world would end. The timeline had to be there so Loki would become a 'variant', otherwise things wouldn't work out the way they were supposed to. This is just a random thought I have, that's all.

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the fact that carlisle’s hands and body are cold but he’s a doctor. literally his job depends on touching parole to check them out and shaking hands. it makes NO sense

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When Indiana jones rides that submarine in raiders of the lost ark

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Everything with spaceships where they stand up and the whole plot is how they get thrown around when the ship moves. Sit down and wear seat belts??!

And I always have issues with the response of the people to movements of the ship. The specific gravity generation logic is always a bit flaky since it's not actually a thing, but if the gravity generation comes from inside the ship and forces are acting such that you're on the floor whether the ship is right side up, upside down, sideways and whatever, why is it that a small evasive turn always makes everyone get hurled across the deck? And the stuff on the captain's desk never gets disturbed even when the whole ship is practically torn apart. Does he use some special gravity in there, and if so, why not use that for the crew?

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