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In pretty much any other nation on God’s green Earth, healthcare is a straightforward issue. However, in the United States, it’s a topic that divides, fractures, and polarizes the population into warring factions: those for access to free healthcare and those adamantly opposed to it.

Well, here at Bored Panda, we believe that access to free healthcare makes a lot of sense. Meanwhile, the current system is incredibly bureaucratic and wasteful according to the latest stats and ought to be improved. How bad is the situation? Well, around 760 billion dollars go to absolute waste each year. However, some Americans are stubbornly against free healthcare and overhauling the system.

Why? While there are some serious arguments here and there, we decided that it’s time that we took a gander at the most ridiculous reasons that people have said ‘no’ to something that ought to be a basic part of life. Scroll on down and upvote your fave pics. Be sure to let us know what you think the pros and cons of free healthcare are, dear Pandas—we always value a well-argued opinion.

Dr. Andrew Carroll from Arizona, has some experience dealing with healthcare insurance companies and fighting for what's best for his patients. Bored Panda previously wrote about how he broke down in tears when a company refused to provide one of his patients a CT chest scan and contacted him again to go even further in-depth about the system in the US.

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Apparently Canada’s Healthcare Is Bad

Apparently Canada’s Healthcare Is Bad

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Won't People Just Hurt Themselves On Purpose?

Won't People Just Hurt Themselves On Purpose?

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like making fun of Americans... it's the least I can do for all the people they have killed in other countries

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According to Dr. Carroll, there are clear financial incentives for the companies that provide healthcare insurance to keep the system, with its high administrative costs, as it is. "It will be very difficult to reduce the administrative costs without overhauling the payment system altogether," he explained that even small step-by-step changes would be hard to push through.

Dr. Carroll was very candid about healthcare insurance providers and how it's not in their interest to do what's best for American patients. "Unfortunately, these payers tend not to have altruistic intentions towards their members. They cater to the advantage of the employers paying for the benefits, who want to try and spend the least amount of money they can."

He continued: "Employers that pay for benefits will need to demand more of the companies providing the benefits or patients will need to file class-action lawsuits to demand that benefits due to them are not unduly restricted, as they are today."

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An Ambulance Is Not A Taxi

An Ambulance Is Not A Taxi

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When You’d Rather Go Bankrupt Than Go To Another Country For Better Healthcare. Because America

When You’d Rather Go Bankrupt Than Go To Another Country For Better Healthcare. Because America

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What's Next, Free Medicine?

What's Next, Free Medicine?

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The US spends huge amounts of money on healthcare, but a whopping quarter of the costs are administrative. This means that customers pay a lot, but far from every penny actually ends up helping them directly. There’s a lot of waste in the system and a lot of fat that needs to be cut.

What’s more, hospitals in the US are consolidated. This means less competition, meaning there’s little to no motivation to actually ensure lower prices for patients. If somebody can charge more and the customer has no other choice, why lower the price? (Well, apart from empathy, I mean?)

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It's Cr**py In Canada

It's Cr**py In Canada

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US actually has worse healthcare than the UK, Canada and Australia. UK is ranked 18, Canada is ranked 30, Australia is ranked 32 and the US is ranked 37. This is according to WHO.

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But We Can Pick Whatever Doctor Or Healthcare Insurer We Want! We Win

But We Can Pick Whatever Doctor Or Healthcare Insurer We Want! We Win

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Sum Guy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what happens when the media and politicians lie to the people... plus the people are too dumb to actually pay attention to other countries

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Despite often boasting about being the bastion of freedom and being the best, the US is woefully struggling along with its healthcare system. The World Health Organization ranks it as the 37th best in the entire world. It doesn’t matter how many amazing doctors and how much cutting-edge tech you have if you can’t help people due to the system in place.

The US spends more of its national income on healthcare than other developed OECD countries and spends more per person than other rich nations. However, this level of spending doesn’t translate to better care.

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"There Healthcare Is So Good That They Rely On The Us For Actual Medicines Lol"

"There Healthcare Is So Good That They Rely On The Us For Actual Medicines Lol"

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Why Use It If You Can't Afford It?

Why Use It If You Can't Afford It?

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Anaïs Ballestra
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually thanks to him we spot the big difference here between America and other country with free healthcare: In America you have to think if you can afford it BEFORE. That's crazy....

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Didn't Ask To Be Blind

Didn't Ask To Be Blind

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even in Australia with universal healthcare you still have to pay for glasses or contacts. My glasses cost $39 and my daughter got 2 pairs for $189. The eye test at optometrists is free though.

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Where you live in the US and what type of insurance coverage you have (private vs. public) affect your wait times, too. So you can expect to wait in line to see a doctor even if you think you’re paying top-dollar prices for top-dollar coverage. However, 66 percent of all Americans are afraid that they won’t be able to afford medical care in 2021.

In a couple of earlier interviews, Bored Panda spoke about US healthcare with Tumblr user Avilocirapter (who was paying for a top-tier insurance plan), as well as Dr. Carroll from Arizona (who burst into tears when an insurance company “denied a CT Chest on a young woman with post-Covid syndrome”).

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"No, In France, It Costs A Lifetime And A Country Of Taxes." On A Discussion About Ingame Healthcare Costs In Stardew Valley

"No, In France, It Costs A Lifetime And A Country Of Taxes." On A Discussion About Ingame Healthcare Costs In Stardew Valley

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C.S. E.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In addition, let's have a look at how much we spend on insurance and STILL will likely go bankrupt if cancer pops up.

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#14

Lmao What Type Of Healthcare Does Iran Have? They Still Use Voodoo So They Should Shut The Hell Up

Lmao What Type Of Healthcare Does Iran Have? They Still Use Voodoo So They Should Shut The Hell Up

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Ami Temi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, it probably was Fox News for all the rubbish and lies and told by someone as Tucker Carlson, I'm willing to bet.

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"Has Monumentally Contributed More To Mankind Than All Those Noted Combined"

"Has Monumentally Contributed More To Mankind Than All Those Noted Combined"

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Avilociraptor explained that, in their opinion, the private insurance model destroyed the doctor-patient relationship and reduced the autonomy that both patients and providers had. “Nurses are overworked and underpaid, and yet we demonize them when they strike to provide safer conditions for themselves and their patients.”

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The solution? According to Avilociraptor, Americans have to “regularly write” to their government representatives and demand change.

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"(Us) Healthcare & Medical Infrastructure Is Truly World Class & We Are Much Better Prepared"

"(Us) Healthcare & Medical Infrastructure Is Truly World Class & We Are Much Better Prepared"

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Helen Haley
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm truly stunned by the level of deliberate ignorance and self delusion displayed by these people.

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"Being Poor Is A Choice If Everyone Worked We Wouldn't Even Need 'Free' Healthcare"

"Being Poor Is A Choice If Everyone Worked We Wouldn't Even Need 'Free' Healthcare"

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how fckd in the head do you need to be to think that is true ?

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2nd Amendment vs. Universal Healthcare

2nd Amendment vs. Universal Healthcare

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N G
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our "mighty army" was 40,000 men. Facing 400,000 FRENCH men who came to your side. I will have a tea. And if I get a burn from it at least my healthcare is taken care of and won't hurt my credit rating, or bank balance.

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Meanwhile, Dr. Carroll previously told us that, in the United States, the insurance company is the payer for a patient’s care, so they’re “heavily involved in the provision of that care.” He said: “Their job is not to pay for healthcare but avoid paying for healthcare. It is a terrible system.”

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“Healthcare Is Not A Basic Human Right”

“Healthcare Is Not A Basic Human Right”

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Alexandra Davis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Remind this person of this next time he needs a doctor- it's not a right so he doesn't need to be provided with assistance

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“So You’re Saying Their Healthcare Is No Better Than Ours?”

“So You’re Saying Their Healthcare Is No Better Than Ours?”

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We Have To Fund The Innovation That The Socialist Healthcare Systems Of The World Leach On

We Have To Fund The Innovation That The Socialist Healthcare Systems Of The World Leach On

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Dr. Carroll also opened up about the hardships that healthcare professionals like him face in the line of duty. “We are trained very early, almost like soldiers, to work hard and long hours, deal with extremely stressful conditions, and work through the emotional turmoil of death, debility, and the effect those things have on the patient and their families.”

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"Healthcare Is Not A Right, Unless You Feel Like Slavery Is Ok"

"Healthcare Is Not A Right, Unless You Feel Like Slavery Is Ok"

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N G
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So... The police, fire service, street lighting, the army.... What the frickin track do you think your taxes pay for? You ALL benefit from "someone else's labour" AS WELL AS YOUR OWN LABOUR. That's the point.

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Ask Ur Hero How Finland Is Doing During This Wuhan Virus. Their 'Free' Healthcare Is Failing And Bankrupting Their Country

Ask Ur Hero How Finland Is Doing During This Wuhan Virus. Their 'Free' Healthcare Is Failing And Bankrupting Their Country

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yeah Finland TOTAL covid deaths 808 ....less than USA daily deaths

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“Still Better Than Places With Free Healthcare”

“Still Better Than Places With Free Healthcare”

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However, Dr. Carroll can’t imagine doing anything else. Being a doctor, helping people, is his calling. “I love what I do because I could not see myself doing anything else. I’ve wanted to be a doctor since I was 5, since I myself had a major medical issue.”

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Healthcare Is Not A Right In 'Merica

Healthcare Is Not A Right In 'Merica

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Germanys constitution. Part 1-1: Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority. Part 2-2: Every person shall have the right to free development of his personality insofar as he does not violate the rights of others or offend against the constitutional order or the moral law.

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#26

“You Can Get Free Healthcare Right Now Join The Army”

“You Can Get Free Healthcare Right Now Join The Army”

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I Should Be Able To Opt Out Of Insurance If I Want... With Universal Healthcare I Lose That Freedom Of Choice

I Should Be Able To Opt Out Of Insurance If I Want... With Universal Healthcare I Lose That Freedom Of Choice

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N G
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

...I think my brain just broke. You want to be able to pay FULL price for any illness or injury? That's... freedom, of a sort?

Abigail Hill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is like the people who say they don't want to go to heaven because they won't be able to sin there. I've literally heard that argument.

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El Dee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'I should be able to choose that in the event of an accident I am left to die by the side of the road'

Debbie Convery
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can pay for private healthcare in the UK if you wish. You can be seen faster, waiting lists for not emergency surgery etc, get your own room. They generally use the same consultants and surgeons that work in the NHS

Roxy Eastland
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Eh? You can decline treatment, it isn't forced on you. But yes, you have to pay your taxes.

Kelly Hartle
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sure--then when you can't afford your bill and declare bankruptcy, it becomes everyone else's problem.

Sinkvenice
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had to read that several times to make sure I read it correctly. That person is a f***ing cretin.

Retro Dan™
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Technically true. BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES RAPING OUR WALLETS TO DEATH.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you get cancer or any other serious illness, but lack insurance, should you either pay full price or be denied treatment?

Natalia Shoemark
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You CAN pay for private Healthcare here in NZ, otherwise you go on the public waiting list.

blankman
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You want to drive a car? You need insurance. Of course you can always opt not to drive - that's your choice

M Kate McCulloch
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yeah - you can choose not to be treated if you want - just sign a DNR

Valley Girl
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, that should be allowed. However, if something happens and you need healthcare, you have to pay upfront at a out of network rate.

DG
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope, in the UK you can get medical insurance like BUPA.

Deborah B
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about have universal healthcare, with a 5% tax on all forms of income and capital gains, and you are allowed to opt out of both, increase benefits by 5% to make up the cost for the poorest. But if you want to opt back in, you have to start paying the tax immediately, but wait 12 months before you get the universal healthcare again. If you have zero income, eg a child, unemployed and not recieving any benefits, you get free access, but still have to opt in. Then everyone can opt in or out as they choose, 5% of income should be more affordable than what people most pay now. If you are a jackass, and you choose to opt out of the system, then you can choose a private insurer or pay cash, and be as screwed as you are now.

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He continued: “I remember the care and compassion my doctors when I was that age showed me, and helped me get through my very tough time. I wanted to do that for others, and so far I think I have done so. Insurance companies make it difficult though, and nearly force cold, inhumane, and compassionless rules on patients when they are most vulnerable.”

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"Healthcare Is Not A Basic Right - And I'm Concerned That Anyone's Kids Assume They Have The Right To Demand Someone Else Finance Their Healthcare"

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how do you think insurance works ? those that pay in but dont use are technically paying for those that do use it

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“Avoid Situations In Which You May Need The Hospital”, In A List Of Solutions To Not Pay Healthcare Too Much

“Avoid Situations In Which You May Need The Hospital”, In A List Of Solutions To Not Pay Healthcare Too Much

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

America , the place where you'd rather pay 10s of thousands for health care because you don't want to help out your fellow Americans

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Not Sure It Works This Way

Not Sure It Works This Way

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Plenty of Americans who are against free healthcare have a mindset that’s full-on ‘the strong survive, the weak perish’ which would be useful in a post-apocalyptic world, not when we’re all supposed to be civilized and aiming for longer, higher-quality living. And it’s a tad ironic that a country that is so full of charitable, warm, friendly people also has to deal with a cold, dehumanizing, penny-pinching healthcare system.

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Imagine Having To Wait Months For Healthcare Because You Live Somewhere That Has Government Run Healthcare

Imagine Having To Wait Months For Healthcare Because You Live Somewhere That Has Government Run Healthcare

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's true. There's not enough doctors for everyone to be seen immediately so if my situation isn't dire I will wait a couple of months for a visit with a specialist. The more serious the condition is, the closer to the beginning of the line you are placed. I see no problem with that, I don't want somebody else to die because I was impatient. And that's for public healthcare. A yearly insurance at a private network of clinics costs about a quarter of a mean monthly salary. Within that you can go to any specialist (except, I think the dentist) and then it's much shorter waiting time.

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American Talking About Free Healthcare

American Talking About Free Healthcare

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

goes bankrupt and homeless after car accident " at least i'm not paying to help others"

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"Better Than The Free Healthcare [...] Ours Is Expensive, Not Crap"

"Better Than The Free Healthcare [...] Ours Is Expensive, Not Crap"

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Kaisa Koo
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Facts missing again. I Wonder if it's more a lie or laziness.. Ignorance, I know but such irresponsible statements could be understood as lies.

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Healthcare Is Governmental Slavery

Healthcare Is Governmental Slavery

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#36

“Wealthy Brits Fly To The Us For Critical Care Because We Have The Best Healthcare In The World”

“Wealthy Brits Fly To The Us For Critical Care Because We Have The Best Healthcare In The World”

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

forgetting Brits do actually move to the USA for the weather , do you expect them to fly home for treatment then fly back ??

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Gimme That Fat TV!

 Gimme That Fat TV!

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Europeans can get bigger toys if they disregard their own health and education!!! Seriously?

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"You’re Welcome American Citizens Literally Pay For The Rest Of The Worlds Healthcare." On A Tweet About Canada

"You’re Welcome American Citizens Literally Pay For The Rest Of The Worlds Healthcare." On A Tweet About Canada

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Roxy Eastland
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"American citizens literally pay for the rest of the worlds (sic) healthcare" - I don't even know what they're thinking here.

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Found On Quora: "Don't Talk About Healthcare, That's Not Sometimes That Defines The Greatness Of A Country"

Found On Quora: "Don't Talk About Healthcare, That's Not Sometimes That Defines The Greatness Of A Country"

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Roland Kreslin
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since when Is USA the greatest country in the world. Get your facts straight. And if you are too lazy watch the series 'newsroom'. There is a nice rant about wlhow f****d up USA is

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#40

"I'll Pay My Healthcare And Others Can Pay Theirs If They Can't That's Unfortunate"

"I'll Pay My Healthcare And Others Can Pay Theirs If They Can't That's Unfortunate"

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Marianne
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They're right not to believe in European socialist well fair states, because something like that doesn't exist. We do not have socialist states here. But that's hard to understand if "universal healthcare" is a socialist concept for you.

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"Healthcare Isn't A Human Right"

"Healthcare Isn't A Human Right"

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once again it's clear that Americans do not know the Universal declaration of human rights. Even under the Geneva convention wounded prisoners of war have a right to health care.

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Free Healthcare Doesn’t Work And It’s A Failing System In Almost Every Country

Free Healthcare Doesn’t Work And It’s A Failing System In Almost Every Country

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i'd laugh but it's scary how uninformed most of these morons are

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Free Healthcare Is Why Italy And Spain Have Thousands Dying Everyday From Coronavirus

Free Healthcare Is Why Italy And Spain Have Thousands Dying Everyday From Coronavirus

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Wait Until You Find Out Waiting In Line For 11 Hours To Vote Is Absolutely Wonderful Compared To The Amount Of Time People Wait To See A Doctor In Countries With Socialized Healthcare

Wait Until You Find Out Waiting In Line For 11 Hours To Vote Is Absolutely Wonderful Compared To The Amount Of Time People Wait To See A Doctor In Countries With Socialized Healthcare

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

phone up at 8 am see a doctor at 10am , sooooo much waiting , these fools just listen to RepubliCONS filling their heads with sh1te

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#45

No It Isn’t, “Free” Healthcare Does Not Get Into The Concept Of A Human Right

No It Isn’t, “Free” Healthcare Does Not Get Into The Concept Of A Human Right

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Natalia Shoemark
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok. Technically I guess we do via our taxes... but like waaaaaaay less than them!

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#46

"Everyone Gets Free Healthcare Because It's A Right. Then Everyone Gets A Free Firearm. Because That's Definitely A Right"

"Everyone Gets Free Healthcare Because It's A Right. Then Everyone Gets A Free Firearm. Because That's Definitely A Right"

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Coleonema
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Does not mean you get a free firearm

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#47

Canada Only Has Free Healthcare Because Of The Us

Canada Only Has Free Healthcare Because Of The Us

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Roland Kreslin
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What did I just read? From what does USA protect Canada. Last time I checked the only neighbours are Greenland and USA.

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#48

"My Grandfather Went To France In 1944. Germans In Control And Not Offering Doc Visits. He And Other American Servicemen Liberated The Country" On A Tweet Where An American Man Praises The French Healthcare System

"My Grandfather Went To France In 1944. Germans In Control And Not Offering Doc Visits. He And Other American Servicemen Liberated The Country" On A Tweet Where An American Man Praises The French Healthcare System

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Helped to liberate along with all the other allies, most of whom were in from the start.

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#49

Healthcare Shouldn’t Be Free For Everyone

Healthcare Shouldn’t Be Free For Everyone

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

what a crock of sh1t , these dumb a55es need to think before they flapp their moronic lips

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#50

"If You Can't Take Care Of Yourself Than I Shouldn't Be Forced To Pay For Your Healthcare"

"If You Can't Take Care Of Yourself Than I Shouldn't Be Forced To Pay For Your Healthcare"

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