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Family Of 12 Shows How They Manage To Travel In A 30-Foot Trailer And People Online Don’t Approve
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Family Of 12 Shows How They Manage To Travel In A 30-Foot Trailer And People Online Don’t Approve

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Living on the road is difficult enough, especially if you’re doing it with a lot of people. From making food to going to the toilet and showering, it can get burdensome, making people long to be in their warm and comfortable home. It’s especially demanding to have comfortable sleeping arrangements, with beds sometimes being hard, there not being enough space to lie down comfortably, and others snoring not too far away.

TikToker Amber de la Motte showed off how her family of 12 sleeps in an Airstream travel trailer, sparking discussions in various communities online.

More info: TikTok Part 1 | TikTok Part 2

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    Amber de la Motte shows off her family’s sleeping arrangements for their half-week long trip

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    “How we sleep in the trailer. This is where the little girls sleep”

    “It used to be a table, but it converts into a bed.”

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    “Here’s the couch. And Noah’s sleeping on it. Here’s where Enoch sleeps

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    “Here’s Elijah. He has a top bunk. Down here are Pearl and Naomi”

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    “Here’s where Josiah sleeps. This is where Moses sleeps”

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    “This is where Mommy and Daddy sleep”

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    In a previous video, Amber shows the audience more of their trailer, from their kitchen to their bathroom facilities

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    “Hi guys, I’m gonna give you an Airstream tour”

    “So in the front part of the Airstream there’s a bedroom, it’s a queen bed and it has some storage on the side, storage on the top and we have a little bed for the baby.”

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    “Here’s the front door. And then over here we have a little table that turns into a bed and a TV”

    “On the other side we have a little couch that we can also use as a bed and we have storage on top.”

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    “There’s a little sink here, microwave, and our stove which is full of cereal and fruit”

    “On this side is the fridge. It’s not huge but stores frozen fruit, and milk and stuff.”

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    “Up here is a bunk bed and down here is another queen bed”

    “On this side we have a bathroom, the shower, the toilet and the sink.”

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    Watch the original videos here:

    @thehappycaravan People have asked how our family of 12 sleeps in our 30 ft trailer. It’s not perfect, but more comfy than a tent because there is heat, AC and a fridge. 👍🏼 #airstream #rvlife #familyrv #caravan #trailer #familytok #howwesleep ♬ The 30 Foot Trailer (Song) – The Drowsy Lads

    @thehappycaravan 30 ft FB bunk Airstream Tour! It’s a bit squishy for our family of 12 but more comfy than a tent when camping because we have heat and AC and a fridge. #rvlife #airstreamtour #airstream #airstreamlife #momtok #familylife #largefamilylife #momof10 ♬ simple. – coldbrew

    Amber de la Motte is happy with how her family fits in the Airstream comfortably, but the internet has second thoughts about it

    The video that went viral was a TikTok showing how Amber’s 10 children, she, and her husband fit in their trailer to sleep. The beds come in various shapes and sizes, from 3 girls sleeping on a table that converts to a bed, to bunk beds, to several of the children sleeping on the floor. 

    It seems that for the duration of this trip, two of the children, young Enoch and teenage Josiah, had to sleep on the trailer’s floor for some time. It isn’t very easy to see whether there is a mat or something soft underneath them, but it doesn’t seem so at first glance.

    This is all detailed in a series of videos on her Tiktok, from a San Francisco – San Diego trip, which is about 500 miles (805 km), to their moving trip from their previous home in San Francisco to their New York City home in Harlem. They took the latter trip also using the Airstream trailer, which would come out to about 2905 miles (4676 km) by car.

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    She mentions that all 12 of them living in a 30-foot (9 m) trailer isn’t perfect, but at the same time, it’s more comfortable than living in a tent, as they have AC, heating, and a fridge. In a comment on one of the videos, Amber humorously comments that it’s safer in the trailer than sleeping with bears outside, as she once was camping in Yosemite when a bear walked by her tent.

    The family is also incredibly talented, with 9 of their kids playing various string instruments. It appears that at least 7 of them have perfect pitch and they frequently perform various covers, such as Harry Styles’ As It Was, performed by the children as a string quintet.

    This NYC move was apparently necessary as 7 kids auditioned for Juilliard, and 3 of them were accepted to it. They felt that it was wise to move their entire family, as there are many highly rated music schools in the area for the rest of their kids. For the uninitiated, Juilliard is a prestigious music school in NYC, with a 7.4% acceptance rate, according to 2021 data.

    They are also an intensely religious family, showing their devotion in many of their videos. Nevertheless, Amber has spoken candidly about their experiences with the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church they had attended for 15 years.

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    They took on more moderate views after leaving the church, which made all the women attending wear skirts and considered rock music “evil.” They ultimately left the church because pastors of IFB churches that were tried for abusing minors started showing up in their church.

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    So what’s the buzz all about, then? Well, although many expressed how cool and cute it is for them to be traveling all together like they show on their social media, not everyone took kindly to some of the children sleeping on the floor. People were shook up and said that it’s too much for children to be sleeping on hard floors without any padding.

    In Amber’s defense, the sleeping spots get rotated between the children and parents, but Amber can’t give up the bed, as she has to nurse the youngest, Moses. A later video addressed viewers’ concerns, saying that Enoch now has a blow-up mat to sleep on. Amber further mentions that Enoch gave up his spot on the bed for his sister, Melody, as they forgot her fold-up mat.

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    Folks on the internet pointed out that Josiah, also sleeping on the floor, was glossed over, further not being satisfied with the treatment of Enoch. Many were outraged at this, but others also said that sleeping on the floor is no big deal and that they are only just traveling like this for a short time, among other things.

    Another family on social media, Knorpp and South, lives in an RV when going on trips, having lived in one permanently for a long time in the past. They solve the issues of their kids sleeping by having a separate bunk bedroom, which sleeps 7 of their 9 kids at once. They’ve also installed a separate AC for the room, as it does get hot and humid with so many people sleeping in a small space. Two other kids sleep on a big couch in the kitchen.

    It is possible to sleep a large family in a trailer or RV. It just takes a lot of work to set it up and adapt it to your family’s needs. The camping world blog has suggestions and advice for big families that want to travel comfortably, emphasizing the importance of good beds and other comfort facilities when traveling.

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    Amber’s original sleeping arrangement video received more than 11 million views and more than 1 million likes. But the 14 thousand commenters were divided, with many disagreeing with their sleeping arrangements, calling them unfair and sad. There was another just as vocal camp saying that they were in love with the setup and would’ve loved to live like this as kids. What are your thoughts? Have experiences of traveling together with many people? Share them in the comments!

    Comments were torn with people being upset with the parents for treating their children unfairly and others saying they are in love with the idea

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    Nupraptor
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    12 kids and they have names like Noah, Enoch, Josiah, Elijah, and Moses. Color me surprised.

    ginny weasley
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course they are fundies. Who else would it be? It's some straight up Duggar s**t and look how that turned out with the pedo older brother

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    ConstantlyJon
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have 100% slept on trailer couches before, it's not bad at all. But a hardwood floor though? Give the kid an air mattress at least. Yeesh. However, I will say that this kind of stuff is very fun for kids a lot of the time. They'll likely remember these times fondly. I know I do.

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My anecdote was definitely illegal at the time and still is, but me and my three cousins would pile into the back of my grandpa's Ford pick-up truck that had a camper shell on it and travel from North Georgia to Arkansas every summer. We would just pile blankets in the back and use our back-packs and luggage as pillows. Those were some looooooong trips, lol, but we all had a blast. Luckily we never wrecked because we would all be dead.

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    Biofish23
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it's absurd people are getting so worked up about this. 1) It's not a permanent living situation, it's a cross country road trip of less than a week. 2) Didn't you people ever sleep on the floor as a kid? Sleepover at a friends? Living room campout? Actual camping? A sleeping bag,a pillow, and a bit of floor was all that was needed. As an adult, I'm a lot more princess and the pea and need a real bed, but as a kid it was fun.

    Couriva
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand why people are getting worked up about this either. My cousins used to lived in an RV and would just put all of them into one bed while my aunt and uncle shared the couch.

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    John Louis
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a strong Christian and I can say there is no Biblical reason for having a big family. The phrase, "Be fruitful and multiply" was said only to Adam and Noah, NOT the rest of us. Having huge number of kids strikes me as a type of self absorbtion.

    Bumble
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every sperm is sacred, Every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

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    Tam StaR
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah, this is how restricting birth control ends up. Great to have a picture of the future of restricting women's reproductive rights because this looks like such a great life for 10 kids. *hopefully my sarcasm bleeds through*

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    Weasel Wise
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's more selfish that thinking there should be 10 more of you? Forcing all those INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE to cram into such tight quarters. Thinking it's reasonable that you all have to share one tiny toilet; really hope nobody gets food poisoning. I won't continue. Those parents are pretty selfish and I feel bad for their kids.

    Jeanne Johnson
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    1 year ago

    I go on vacation with my kids. They sleep in tents and the tents DON'T have bathrooms. No a/c, no heat, no fridge for the food. My kids sleep on the ground with sleeping bags. Omfg, I must be incredibly selfish. Remove the kids!

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    Piper
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Y’all. This is for trips. This is not their living situation. They live in NYC, their kids are happy and well adjusted, they aren’t living on welfare. The family moved cross country to support their children’s talents. These parents love their children. They are the good guys.

    Bored Seb
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know people (they were friends, not any more) who have 6 kids. They say they love there kids. And they probably think they do... but seriously, kids need time. Attention. You have to be able to support all of them. And they can't. Those kids will never have special time with their parents ; the older kids will end up being second parents, helping to take care of the youngest one, which should not be a kid job... so no, they are not the good guys. they suck.

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    Marcellus II
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think a lot of the upset comments are from people mis-reading and thinking they live like this (plus some from the professionally/perennially upset). But you can't make it much longer & still drive, so it's that or tents. Also a kid weighs much less, so much thinner mattress will do; and a kid that slept badly is just grouchy while a parent that missed their night is a danger on the road. Can't believe I'm defending a pair of fundamentalist hormonal rabbits but there you go.

    zak
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whether is narcissism or some other mental illness, having 10 kids is gross.

    PanteraSilva
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not permanent, it's a fun adventure. These kids will remember it fondly and will likely do this with their own kids. And kids are more resilient than adults, a week on hard-wood floors will not cause permanent damage, if any.

    Zophra
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe I am not reading correctly - but is this temporary? "Living in" instead of vacationing or traveling in the wording is confusing me but aren't they going to NY?

    LH25
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was confused as well. For a road trip once in a while, fine. I've slept on the floor of a tent as a kid, it was fine. Living like this, nope.

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    memyselfandI
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do so many people think that having big families is inherently evil? Just because sometimes it doesn’t work doesn’t mean that always happens. It really has more to do with the environment and parenting style than just the number of siblings. Besides, all these kids seem to have plenty of room, and sleeping on the floor can be fun for a few days. Yeah, they’re sharing a bed, but they don’t have opposite genders sharing and I would assume several of the girls share a room at home too. The parents’ bed did seem a little big compared to the rest, but I expect that’s probably just due to the width of the trailer and the storage around it. They probably couldn’t have fit another person in the space left over. Also, some of the younger kids might want to crawl in with their parents at some point. So the larger bed makes sense. I just don’t see why this family is getting so much hate for going on a vacation together quite comfortably.

    Sarah Schumm
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think people are reacting badly because there’s a certain cult “religious” sect in the US that promotes having as many children as possible among other more nefarious practices and this family has a lot of the hallmarks of that cult.

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    SlightlyTarnished
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get the fake outrage on this subject. They're traveling as a family, pretty awesome thing right there. The kids sleep all whichaway including on the floor, so what. They share a small space with one toilet for a week, so what. If anyone is bothered by this they really need to get out of their first world comfort zone and live a little. As for the family's religious focus, not anyones business but theirs, that said, I'm glad they were aware enough to leave their fundi church when the pedos showed up.

    Judit Gueta
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get all this judging. It's a couple of days on a trip, not a lifetime! I sometimes have to send my kids to sleep in their beds because they want to sleep on the floor on a blanket. In their room. Kids can sleep anywhere. And I am sure some if them end up in their parents ' bed by the morning. And yeap, when you go camping you all sleep on the floor. I mean we do. Only the baby gets a proper camp-crib.

    Ray Arani
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they lived like this full time it might be more concerning, but it sounds like this is temporary, like for vacation travels? Kids sleep in a sleeping bag on the floor/hard ground all the time at sleepovers or while camping. They have pillows. They'll be fine. People are getting all judgey and mad over things that aren't all that serious. They have a clean, safe looking travel trailer/RV and all the kids look like they're having a nice time. I used to go camping as a kid all the time, or sleepover at friends'/cousins' with just a pillow and blanket. My son has his choice of two beds in his room, foam toppers all that, and half the time I find him sprawled on the floor passed out with a pillow and a blanket. It's really not a big deal.

    Micaela Di Martino
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When do the teens do teen stuff???? They can't even masturbate in peace.

    memyselfandI
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is masturbating supposed to be a universal teen thing? Pretty sure a large portion of the population doesn’t actually do that very much if at all.

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    Huddo's sister
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a four day trip, they will be fine! The only problem I see is they don't have sleeping mats for those on the floor.

    Kathy Mars
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People need to get a grip. Mind your business. It's a road trip not their housing. Kids all look healthy, happy, and well cared for. How many of us as kid fell asleep on the floor watching TV and parents left us there?? People need to remember kids are resilient af. They can sleep just about any where and in the craziest position. For those talking about the amount of kids they have.. why do you care?? Are you paying to raise them. Some people need reminder of golden rule we learned as children. If you don't have nothing nice to say. Don't say anything at all

    S Mi
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Things have changed, but certainly we would go places as a team and just have sleeping bags on the floor, kids in the cabin would sleep anywhere when there were lots of people around. I'd be potentially concerned if this were their living situation. This seems fun for a trip.

    Invisible Panda
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are all safe inside an Airstream ffs. Better than sleeping in a tent on the ground. I'm sure the people complaining about it has never gone camping without a comfy mattress of some sort. Smh. Plenty of families out there sleeping on floors without beds but god forbid a family travels without one. Last I checked kids can sleep pretty much anywhere. Plus the article says the kids rotate so it's not the same ones on the floor. None of the children look unhappy, unfed or unkempt so what's the big deal?

    E V
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's wrong with kids sleeping on the floor? I used to camp out in the living room floor on the weekends when I was a kid. It was awesome! Movie nights and popcorn! Camping in a tent you're sleeping on the ground. Kids seem happy. They're more limber. I haven't slept on the floor since my hips grew in during puberty. Kids are limber, adults, not so much. Mom said she was nursing, understandable. It's not like they're living in the trailer full time. That's a different story.

    PurpleUnicorn
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not as if they live in the trailer full time, it's only a trip for a few days.

    Rubyjune
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would be more concerned that people in both New York and San Francisco have seen the kids out busking at all hours with no adult with them!!!

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yall are acting like this is their permanent home. They went on a half week-long vacation. Getoveryaselves. I do think they should have gotten some foam mats or cots for the kids who were on the floor.

    digitalin
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah I guess people could get upset at this, but sometimes kids love stuff like this. We went camping a lot and slept outside on the ground. My kids often decide to sleep on the floor because they find it comfortable. Many people live in poverty worse than this. I think it's a bit rough, but it's a weird thing to get outraged about.

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aren't babies supposed to sleep on their backs? That's my only take on this. Clearly this is for travelling. People bitching about the kid's sleeping arrangements yet people will take their families camping and have them sleep in a tent on the ground, with no cushioning, other than whatever is soft in the sleeping bag and a pillow. I'm sure everyone gets some private time to get dressed. Again, it's travelling for a short time. They're not strangers. If they have a really good family dynamic and it works out for them then whatever. They wouldn't get criticism if they didn't share it for the world to scrutinize. In fact, they should keep their kids off the internet. Too many weirdos and pedos out there.

    Biofish23
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Babies should always be placed on their backs to sleep, but once they have the muscle control to roll themselves over its OK to let them sleep however they position themselves.

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    Mandie Zimmer
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love all the comments about kids sleeping on the floor. Have these people never had kids? Google pictures of kids sleeping and there are hundreds of them with kids not only sleeping in weird places, but in just bizarre positions. I guess those parents hate their kids too. And for those throwing conniptions about kids sleeping on the floor- what do you think they use in most daycares for nap time? Or in schools that have nap time for younger kids? Y'all either don't have kids, are ignorant, or are just professional griefers that don't have a life. Maybe a bit of each. I bet if y'all posted a segment of your life, you too would be torn to shreds by complete strangers. Live and let live. Their kids are happy, healthy, and are apparently getting their parents attention and love (three kids accepted in to Julliard and all are under the age of 13). Music is a skill that while some may have an inborn talent, needs to be worked at and cultivated. Not to mention this move if for their kids.

    Ophelia Payne
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Meh, you cannot be a good parent to ten kids at a time. I assume at least one of them has a job. Kids need attention, not a family band.

    Aroace tiger (she/they/he)
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's ½ a week idk y some people r acting like it's permanent. It's not great tho. And of course the parents get the massive bed or the kids WILL fight over it... But tbf some of the kids do have beds. Idk anymore

    Asexual Zelephant
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry, this is completely unrelated but I recently also found out I'm AroAce and I use the exact same pronouns!! :D

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    astral slug
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i mean... it's literally just for trips, it's not like they live there full time. that being said, i would recommend foam sleeping pads or something, the floor doesn't look too comfy.

    Jeremy James
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay, I know the Bible says, "Be fruitful and multiply," but there were only like 5 million people on the planet when they wrote that. God says give it a rest already!

    DragonflyGreen
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just....can't....get over that two of the children sleep on the floor.

    memyselfandI
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sleep on the floor anytime my family goes camping, and used to sleep on my bedroom floor every summer because it was too hot in my loft bed. Floors are nice sometimes. And they have sleeping bags, so it’s not like there isn’t any padding.

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    Toe Jam
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    9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bad enough being stuck in there with 12 people, then the fact the boys have horrible biblical names… then they are all trapped in there with that mothers horrible annoying voice lol

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Apparently many people didn't actually READ the article. They're not living in the Airstream, they're using it in place of hotels or camping in a tent WHILE MOVING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. Geez people, get a f*cking grip.

    Viv Hart
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why all the negativity? It's not permanent, just for a few days, the kids don't seem to mind.

    SMom
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People act like that's where they LIVE. Get a fn clue. If that's where they lived they would NOT be putting it on social media because that place would be FILTHY as all get out.

    Crystal Feltner
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When me and my brothers were kids we had our own beds in our own rooms and we always wanted to sleep out in the living room we'd grab our blanket and pillow and fall asleep right on the carpet floor so I don't think it's that big of a deal

    Bracken
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What’s the big deal? I would have loved this as a kid. As for their beliefs, which is what most of you are actually upset about, that is their business.

    Tura Satana
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    White people problems much... Literally majority of humanity has slept on floor or other hard surface, for some time of their life at least. Kids, being lighter, don't necessarily notice it that much either, I at least was at a sleepover as a kid, and we made a bed out of an old cotton duvet on the floor, when there was a perfectly fine bed available. It just seemed more fun I guess, like camping.

    Just saying
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So I probably shouldn't tell you about the couple of nights vacation one February where my kids were in a tent at 1degC and I was in a glamping shepherd's hut with a bed then?

    Mine Truly
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ....... Where are the kids when the parents are making more kids?

    Id row
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moving from San Francisco to Harlem, that's going to be quite the culture shock. Plus I have no idea how they're going to fit 12 people in a NYC apartment. The trailer might be bigger. Either way, they need to ditch the 'multiply for Jesus' mentality and start using birth control.

    juliy
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    of course mom and dad are the only people with an actual normal sized human bed

    memyselfandI
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s still a pretty small bed, just maybe a bit larger to allow for less flexible joints. Also maybe photo angle plays a part.

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    Badulesia
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    12 kids? Irresponsible! + I'd like to know where are the children when the parents decide to "make" the next one.

    Shannon McGill
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they were camping they would be on the hard ground. I slept like this for years, by choice. No kid should whine over this.

    Helen
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are concerned about privacy of those kids in that trailer. What about their privacy while being exposed by their own mom? There should be a law forbidding parent to show their kids online.

    Amanda Myrick
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, I was molested by my cousin and also by my uncle who was only a few years older than me. So, this sleeping situation worries me. I was molested by my cousin from the age 8-10 and then my uncle from 7-10.

    M S
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I was religious like that I would go live in a church and not have two many kids, I have 1 kid and I am worried to death all the time.

    amy hipps
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is it always Christians that breed like rabbits! We are way overpopulated to begin with. We sure as hell don't need this practice.

    memyselfandI
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just as an observation, I’ve heard of lots of huge families from India or Southeast Asia that sometimes have over a hundred kids (multiple wives). And yet Christians get the large family stereotype.

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    Karen Nation
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This family reminds me of 19 kids and county where these kids are home schooled . There is no room for these kids to do anything and be a kid. They need to be around other kids or have more room like a RV

    Peeka_Mimi
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Birth Control is a thing that exists I can't stand these Quiverful fundies.

    Paul Richards
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is an environmental disaster, WAY TOO MANY KIDS, pull out for God sake

    Pheline
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s family dynamics that make or break how people remember these things and my experiences had no positives. No exaggeration. It’s hard for me to look at fundies and understand where they’re coming from- Where does the Bible say anything about dowdy skirts, unstyled hair, plaid shirts for boys? Is one verse about a man’s quiver sufficient to cram so many people into a family? While these families appear happy, connected & faithful while young I hope they make room for doubts, then acceptance when some leave the faith. (It’s not college that does it- that may be when they finally say the words.) Maybe they’ll figure out how to have large happy families be 6 and there will be fewer parentified elder children. Maybe they’ll see they can look back fondly on family trips with a 24’ trailer, not 30’.

    Alex Kenney
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean, this is just irresponsible parenting. No way around it. Many adults choose to live this way, and thats fine, but I guarantee these children would rather have a bed if given the choice.

    Kandrea's World
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sleeping on a hard floor for a night or two is one thing but this appears to be a long term set up. The kids on the floor need bed pads or air mattresses. The fact that the parents have a cozy bed and no concern for two of their children bothers me immensely.

    memyselfandI
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s for as long as it takes to drive from SF to NYC, which is probably around a week or so. And I’m sure the parents’ bed isn’t actually that cozy. Besides, later on in the article it said that the kids sometimes swap sleeping spots for variety.

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    Duke Kilroy
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disgusting. Those children are going to grow up to real f****d up adults.

    Stacia
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe stop having so many kids and get an actual house with rooms for your kids so they have a normal place to sleep instead of the FLOOR.

    Piper
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They have an apartment in NYC. This is just for a trip - I camp with my kids and they sleep on the ground in tents with sleeping bags. It’s part of the experience.

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    tori Ohno
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For camping this can be fun for extremely young children, but these kids are too old. They want independence and privacy. Now, let's talk about the kids. This planet is dying, we can barely sustain ourselves, yet people like this just breed breed breed and breed again. Is that why the parents have a bed and the kids don't? Religious zealots I swear are trying to destroy us all.

    whatever
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jesus Christ lady.....it's a uterus, not a freakin' clown-car !!!!!

    Elita One
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    1 year ago

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    Here's a better idea, live in a damn house. I can guarantee you those kids are going to resent their parents for being forced to live like that.

    Veronica Vatter
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are on a road trip of less than a week. They have an apartment in NYC. You've never slept on the floor for a sleepover?

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    TAM204
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    1 year ago

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    LOL WTF ... this situation is like begging for one of the kids to go postal. I can't even begin to imagine the dire consequences if I had been forced to endure such wretched living conditions as a youth! No offense, but I think the parents are absolutely horrible and should have their kids taken away. Imagine being crammed into an industrial chicken-processing plant, and you get why I say so. AND THE CHICKENS GET MORE ROOM. There isn't even room for any of the kids to literally turn around! What comes from forcing any animal, never mind a human, into such depraved conditions unable to have even a shred of privacy or personal space, EVER? Nothing good, I can assure you of that. The parents are incredibly stupid for thinking this would ever work. Others are welcome to disagree, I don't care, but IMHO only total losers would have more kids than bedrooms in their house. If you are able to afford a thirteen-bdrm ten-bathrm house and want to have twelve kids, GO FOR IT. Else, DON'T

    Nupraptor
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    12 kids and they have names like Noah, Enoch, Josiah, Elijah, and Moses. Color me surprised.

    ginny weasley
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course they are fundies. Who else would it be? It's some straight up Duggar s**t and look how that turned out with the pedo older brother

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    ConstantlyJon
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have 100% slept on trailer couches before, it's not bad at all. But a hardwood floor though? Give the kid an air mattress at least. Yeesh. However, I will say that this kind of stuff is very fun for kids a lot of the time. They'll likely remember these times fondly. I know I do.

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My anecdote was definitely illegal at the time and still is, but me and my three cousins would pile into the back of my grandpa's Ford pick-up truck that had a camper shell on it and travel from North Georgia to Arkansas every summer. We would just pile blankets in the back and use our back-packs and luggage as pillows. Those were some looooooong trips, lol, but we all had a blast. Luckily we never wrecked because we would all be dead.

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    Biofish23
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it's absurd people are getting so worked up about this. 1) It's not a permanent living situation, it's a cross country road trip of less than a week. 2) Didn't you people ever sleep on the floor as a kid? Sleepover at a friends? Living room campout? Actual camping? A sleeping bag,a pillow, and a bit of floor was all that was needed. As an adult, I'm a lot more princess and the pea and need a real bed, but as a kid it was fun.

    Couriva
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand why people are getting worked up about this either. My cousins used to lived in an RV and would just put all of them into one bed while my aunt and uncle shared the couch.

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    John Louis
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a strong Christian and I can say there is no Biblical reason for having a big family. The phrase, "Be fruitful and multiply" was said only to Adam and Noah, NOT the rest of us. Having huge number of kids strikes me as a type of self absorbtion.

    Bumble
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every sperm is sacred, Every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

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    Tam StaR
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah, this is how restricting birth control ends up. Great to have a picture of the future of restricting women's reproductive rights because this looks like such a great life for 10 kids. *hopefully my sarcasm bleeds through*

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    Weasel Wise
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's more selfish that thinking there should be 10 more of you? Forcing all those INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE to cram into such tight quarters. Thinking it's reasonable that you all have to share one tiny toilet; really hope nobody gets food poisoning. I won't continue. Those parents are pretty selfish and I feel bad for their kids.

    Jeanne Johnson
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    1 year ago

    I go on vacation with my kids. They sleep in tents and the tents DON'T have bathrooms. No a/c, no heat, no fridge for the food. My kids sleep on the ground with sleeping bags. Omfg, I must be incredibly selfish. Remove the kids!

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    Piper
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Y’all. This is for trips. This is not their living situation. They live in NYC, their kids are happy and well adjusted, they aren’t living on welfare. The family moved cross country to support their children’s talents. These parents love their children. They are the good guys.

    Bored Seb
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know people (they were friends, not any more) who have 6 kids. They say they love there kids. And they probably think they do... but seriously, kids need time. Attention. You have to be able to support all of them. And they can't. Those kids will never have special time with their parents ; the older kids will end up being second parents, helping to take care of the youngest one, which should not be a kid job... so no, they are not the good guys. they suck.

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    Marcellus II
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think a lot of the upset comments are from people mis-reading and thinking they live like this (plus some from the professionally/perennially upset). But you can't make it much longer & still drive, so it's that or tents. Also a kid weighs much less, so much thinner mattress will do; and a kid that slept badly is just grouchy while a parent that missed their night is a danger on the road. Can't believe I'm defending a pair of fundamentalist hormonal rabbits but there you go.

    zak
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whether is narcissism or some other mental illness, having 10 kids is gross.

    PanteraSilva
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not permanent, it's a fun adventure. These kids will remember it fondly and will likely do this with their own kids. And kids are more resilient than adults, a week on hard-wood floors will not cause permanent damage, if any.

    Zophra
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe I am not reading correctly - but is this temporary? "Living in" instead of vacationing or traveling in the wording is confusing me but aren't they going to NY?

    LH25
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was confused as well. For a road trip once in a while, fine. I've slept on the floor of a tent as a kid, it was fine. Living like this, nope.

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    memyselfandI
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do so many people think that having big families is inherently evil? Just because sometimes it doesn’t work doesn’t mean that always happens. It really has more to do with the environment and parenting style than just the number of siblings. Besides, all these kids seem to have plenty of room, and sleeping on the floor can be fun for a few days. Yeah, they’re sharing a bed, but they don’t have opposite genders sharing and I would assume several of the girls share a room at home too. The parents’ bed did seem a little big compared to the rest, but I expect that’s probably just due to the width of the trailer and the storage around it. They probably couldn’t have fit another person in the space left over. Also, some of the younger kids might want to crawl in with their parents at some point. So the larger bed makes sense. I just don’t see why this family is getting so much hate for going on a vacation together quite comfortably.

    Sarah Schumm
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think people are reacting badly because there’s a certain cult “religious” sect in the US that promotes having as many children as possible among other more nefarious practices and this family has a lot of the hallmarks of that cult.

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    SlightlyTarnished
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get the fake outrage on this subject. They're traveling as a family, pretty awesome thing right there. The kids sleep all whichaway including on the floor, so what. They share a small space with one toilet for a week, so what. If anyone is bothered by this they really need to get out of their first world comfort zone and live a little. As for the family's religious focus, not anyones business but theirs, that said, I'm glad they were aware enough to leave their fundi church when the pedos showed up.

    Judit Gueta
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get all this judging. It's a couple of days on a trip, not a lifetime! I sometimes have to send my kids to sleep in their beds because they want to sleep on the floor on a blanket. In their room. Kids can sleep anywhere. And I am sure some if them end up in their parents ' bed by the morning. And yeap, when you go camping you all sleep on the floor. I mean we do. Only the baby gets a proper camp-crib.

    Ray Arani
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they lived like this full time it might be more concerning, but it sounds like this is temporary, like for vacation travels? Kids sleep in a sleeping bag on the floor/hard ground all the time at sleepovers or while camping. They have pillows. They'll be fine. People are getting all judgey and mad over things that aren't all that serious. They have a clean, safe looking travel trailer/RV and all the kids look like they're having a nice time. I used to go camping as a kid all the time, or sleepover at friends'/cousins' with just a pillow and blanket. My son has his choice of two beds in his room, foam toppers all that, and half the time I find him sprawled on the floor passed out with a pillow and a blanket. It's really not a big deal.

    Micaela Di Martino
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When do the teens do teen stuff???? They can't even masturbate in peace.

    memyselfandI
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is masturbating supposed to be a universal teen thing? Pretty sure a large portion of the population doesn’t actually do that very much if at all.

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    Huddo's sister
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a four day trip, they will be fine! The only problem I see is they don't have sleeping mats for those on the floor.

    Kathy Mars
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People need to get a grip. Mind your business. It's a road trip not their housing. Kids all look healthy, happy, and well cared for. How many of us as kid fell asleep on the floor watching TV and parents left us there?? People need to remember kids are resilient af. They can sleep just about any where and in the craziest position. For those talking about the amount of kids they have.. why do you care?? Are you paying to raise them. Some people need reminder of golden rule we learned as children. If you don't have nothing nice to say. Don't say anything at all

    S Mi
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Things have changed, but certainly we would go places as a team and just have sleeping bags on the floor, kids in the cabin would sleep anywhere when there were lots of people around. I'd be potentially concerned if this were their living situation. This seems fun for a trip.

    Invisible Panda
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are all safe inside an Airstream ffs. Better than sleeping in a tent on the ground. I'm sure the people complaining about it has never gone camping without a comfy mattress of some sort. Smh. Plenty of families out there sleeping on floors without beds but god forbid a family travels without one. Last I checked kids can sleep pretty much anywhere. Plus the article says the kids rotate so it's not the same ones on the floor. None of the children look unhappy, unfed or unkempt so what's the big deal?

    E V
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's wrong with kids sleeping on the floor? I used to camp out in the living room floor on the weekends when I was a kid. It was awesome! Movie nights and popcorn! Camping in a tent you're sleeping on the ground. Kids seem happy. They're more limber. I haven't slept on the floor since my hips grew in during puberty. Kids are limber, adults, not so much. Mom said she was nursing, understandable. It's not like they're living in the trailer full time. That's a different story.

    PurpleUnicorn
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not as if they live in the trailer full time, it's only a trip for a few days.

    Rubyjune
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would be more concerned that people in both New York and San Francisco have seen the kids out busking at all hours with no adult with them!!!

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yall are acting like this is their permanent home. They went on a half week-long vacation. Getoveryaselves. I do think they should have gotten some foam mats or cots for the kids who were on the floor.

    digitalin
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah I guess people could get upset at this, but sometimes kids love stuff like this. We went camping a lot and slept outside on the ground. My kids often decide to sleep on the floor because they find it comfortable. Many people live in poverty worse than this. I think it's a bit rough, but it's a weird thing to get outraged about.

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aren't babies supposed to sleep on their backs? That's my only take on this. Clearly this is for travelling. People bitching about the kid's sleeping arrangements yet people will take their families camping and have them sleep in a tent on the ground, with no cushioning, other than whatever is soft in the sleeping bag and a pillow. I'm sure everyone gets some private time to get dressed. Again, it's travelling for a short time. They're not strangers. If they have a really good family dynamic and it works out for them then whatever. They wouldn't get criticism if they didn't share it for the world to scrutinize. In fact, they should keep their kids off the internet. Too many weirdos and pedos out there.

    Biofish23
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Babies should always be placed on their backs to sleep, but once they have the muscle control to roll themselves over its OK to let them sleep however they position themselves.

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    Mandie Zimmer
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love all the comments about kids sleeping on the floor. Have these people never had kids? Google pictures of kids sleeping and there are hundreds of them with kids not only sleeping in weird places, but in just bizarre positions. I guess those parents hate their kids too. And for those throwing conniptions about kids sleeping on the floor- what do you think they use in most daycares for nap time? Or in schools that have nap time for younger kids? Y'all either don't have kids, are ignorant, or are just professional griefers that don't have a life. Maybe a bit of each. I bet if y'all posted a segment of your life, you too would be torn to shreds by complete strangers. Live and let live. Their kids are happy, healthy, and are apparently getting their parents attention and love (three kids accepted in to Julliard and all are under the age of 13). Music is a skill that while some may have an inborn talent, needs to be worked at and cultivated. Not to mention this move if for their kids.

    Ophelia Payne
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Meh, you cannot be a good parent to ten kids at a time. I assume at least one of them has a job. Kids need attention, not a family band.

    Aroace tiger (she/they/he)
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's ½ a week idk y some people r acting like it's permanent. It's not great tho. And of course the parents get the massive bed or the kids WILL fight over it... But tbf some of the kids do have beds. Idk anymore

    Asexual Zelephant
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry, this is completely unrelated but I recently also found out I'm AroAce and I use the exact same pronouns!! :D

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    astral slug
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i mean... it's literally just for trips, it's not like they live there full time. that being said, i would recommend foam sleeping pads or something, the floor doesn't look too comfy.

    Jeremy James
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay, I know the Bible says, "Be fruitful and multiply," but there were only like 5 million people on the planet when they wrote that. God says give it a rest already!

    DragonflyGreen
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just....can't....get over that two of the children sleep on the floor.

    memyselfandI
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sleep on the floor anytime my family goes camping, and used to sleep on my bedroom floor every summer because it was too hot in my loft bed. Floors are nice sometimes. And they have sleeping bags, so it’s not like there isn’t any padding.

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    Toe Jam
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    9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bad enough being stuck in there with 12 people, then the fact the boys have horrible biblical names… then they are all trapped in there with that mothers horrible annoying voice lol

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Apparently many people didn't actually READ the article. They're not living in the Airstream, they're using it in place of hotels or camping in a tent WHILE MOVING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. Geez people, get a f*cking grip.

    Viv Hart
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why all the negativity? It's not permanent, just for a few days, the kids don't seem to mind.

    SMom
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People act like that's where they LIVE. Get a fn clue. If that's where they lived they would NOT be putting it on social media because that place would be FILTHY as all get out.

    Crystal Feltner
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When me and my brothers were kids we had our own beds in our own rooms and we always wanted to sleep out in the living room we'd grab our blanket and pillow and fall asleep right on the carpet floor so I don't think it's that big of a deal

    Bracken
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What’s the big deal? I would have loved this as a kid. As for their beliefs, which is what most of you are actually upset about, that is their business.

    Tura Satana
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    White people problems much... Literally majority of humanity has slept on floor or other hard surface, for some time of their life at least. Kids, being lighter, don't necessarily notice it that much either, I at least was at a sleepover as a kid, and we made a bed out of an old cotton duvet on the floor, when there was a perfectly fine bed available. It just seemed more fun I guess, like camping.

    Just saying
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So I probably shouldn't tell you about the couple of nights vacation one February where my kids were in a tent at 1degC and I was in a glamping shepherd's hut with a bed then?

    Mine Truly
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ....... Where are the kids when the parents are making more kids?

    Id row
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moving from San Francisco to Harlem, that's going to be quite the culture shock. Plus I have no idea how they're going to fit 12 people in a NYC apartment. The trailer might be bigger. Either way, they need to ditch the 'multiply for Jesus' mentality and start using birth control.

    juliy
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    of course mom and dad are the only people with an actual normal sized human bed

    memyselfandI
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s still a pretty small bed, just maybe a bit larger to allow for less flexible joints. Also maybe photo angle plays a part.

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    Badulesia
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    12 kids? Irresponsible! + I'd like to know where are the children when the parents decide to "make" the next one.

    Shannon McGill
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they were camping they would be on the hard ground. I slept like this for years, by choice. No kid should whine over this.

    Helen
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are concerned about privacy of those kids in that trailer. What about their privacy while being exposed by their own mom? There should be a law forbidding parent to show their kids online.

    Amanda Myrick
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, I was molested by my cousin and also by my uncle who was only a few years older than me. So, this sleeping situation worries me. I was molested by my cousin from the age 8-10 and then my uncle from 7-10.

    M S
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I was religious like that I would go live in a church and not have two many kids, I have 1 kid and I am worried to death all the time.

    amy hipps
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is it always Christians that breed like rabbits! We are way overpopulated to begin with. We sure as hell don't need this practice.

    memyselfandI
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just as an observation, I’ve heard of lots of huge families from India or Southeast Asia that sometimes have over a hundred kids (multiple wives). And yet Christians get the large family stereotype.

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    Karen Nation
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This family reminds me of 19 kids and county where these kids are home schooled . There is no room for these kids to do anything and be a kid. They need to be around other kids or have more room like a RV

    Peeka_Mimi
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Birth Control is a thing that exists I can't stand these Quiverful fundies.

    Paul Richards
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is an environmental disaster, WAY TOO MANY KIDS, pull out for God sake

    Pheline
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s family dynamics that make or break how people remember these things and my experiences had no positives. No exaggeration. It’s hard for me to look at fundies and understand where they’re coming from- Where does the Bible say anything about dowdy skirts, unstyled hair, plaid shirts for boys? Is one verse about a man’s quiver sufficient to cram so many people into a family? While these families appear happy, connected & faithful while young I hope they make room for doubts, then acceptance when some leave the faith. (It’s not college that does it- that may be when they finally say the words.) Maybe they’ll figure out how to have large happy families be 6 and there will be fewer parentified elder children. Maybe they’ll see they can look back fondly on family trips with a 24’ trailer, not 30’.

    Alex Kenney
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean, this is just irresponsible parenting. No way around it. Many adults choose to live this way, and thats fine, but I guarantee these children would rather have a bed if given the choice.

    Kandrea's World
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sleeping on a hard floor for a night or two is one thing but this appears to be a long term set up. The kids on the floor need bed pads or air mattresses. The fact that the parents have a cozy bed and no concern for two of their children bothers me immensely.

    memyselfandI
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s for as long as it takes to drive from SF to NYC, which is probably around a week or so. And I’m sure the parents’ bed isn’t actually that cozy. Besides, later on in the article it said that the kids sometimes swap sleeping spots for variety.

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    Duke Kilroy
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disgusting. Those children are going to grow up to real f****d up adults.

    Stacia
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe stop having so many kids and get an actual house with rooms for your kids so they have a normal place to sleep instead of the FLOOR.

    Piper
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They have an apartment in NYC. This is just for a trip - I camp with my kids and they sleep on the ground in tents with sleeping bags. It’s part of the experience.

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    tori Ohno
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For camping this can be fun for extremely young children, but these kids are too old. They want independence and privacy. Now, let's talk about the kids. This planet is dying, we can barely sustain ourselves, yet people like this just breed breed breed and breed again. Is that why the parents have a bed and the kids don't? Religious zealots I swear are trying to destroy us all.

    whatever
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jesus Christ lady.....it's a uterus, not a freakin' clown-car !!!!!

    Elita One
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    1 year ago

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    Here's a better idea, live in a damn house. I can guarantee you those kids are going to resent their parents for being forced to live like that.

    Veronica Vatter
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are on a road trip of less than a week. They have an apartment in NYC. You've never slept on the floor for a sleepover?

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    TAM204
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    1 year ago

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    LOL WTF ... this situation is like begging for one of the kids to go postal. I can't even begin to imagine the dire consequences if I had been forced to endure such wretched living conditions as a youth! No offense, but I think the parents are absolutely horrible and should have their kids taken away. Imagine being crammed into an industrial chicken-processing plant, and you get why I say so. AND THE CHICKENS GET MORE ROOM. There isn't even room for any of the kids to literally turn around! What comes from forcing any animal, never mind a human, into such depraved conditions unable to have even a shred of privacy or personal space, EVER? Nothing good, I can assure you of that. The parents are incredibly stupid for thinking this would ever work. Others are welcome to disagree, I don't care, but IMHO only total losers would have more kids than bedrooms in their house. If you are able to afford a thirteen-bdrm ten-bathrm house and want to have twelve kids, GO FOR IT. Else, DON'T

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