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19 Ruthless Responses To The Person Who Arrogantly Claimed That Owning Guns Is A Constitutional Right
Sometimes an outsider’s perspective can be an incredibly valuable thing – it allows an escape from the vested interests and entrenched biases that color domestic discussions and can give a more accurate, objective picture of reality.
It can sometimes be really difficult to accept, however, particularly when it involves criticism. The outsider often doesn’t know or care about long-standing habits or traditions, intangible things like loyalty, patriotism and religious faith. The outsider sees only the result of these things and tells it as it is.
This perspective – uploaded onto the subreddit r/MurderedByWords as a response to a post about the gun debate – is a brutally honest summation of an outsider’s view of American society.
For an American, it makes difficult reading because many people are raised to believe that they live in the undisputed greatest nation on Earth. The statistics don’t bear this out however and many foreigners, tired of being lectured to about freedom and democracy while being pressured into supporting war after war, are only too happy to set the record straight.
Harsh? Perhaps. Of course, this commenter has their own biases based on the reality of their own country; we all have different needs and expectations about life and governments choose different ways to serve the best interests of their citizens.
But some things are universal – the right to safety and access to affordable medical care for example – and many outsiders look on in horrified amazement at Americans squabbling over petty details whilst innocent people continue to die tragic and preventable deaths.
Perhaps it might be time to swallow some pride and take a little outsider criticism on board?
Just a suggestion.
Here’s what other people had to say about the response
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What do you think ?
Brandy Grote 5 years ago
I'm a veteran. Been shooting for fun since I was 10, own a few. However... my "right" to put little holes in pieces of paper, or even in animals I'm not going to eat, is not greater than the right of any child to live. Period.
Artex Gorilla 5 years ago
As an outsider, I have no doubt that the majority, the vast majority of Americans are perfectly nice, pleasant people. The issue seems to be how America, as a nation, acts as a collective. It's like all the goodness within individuals is forgotten and it loses all empathy with its own citizens.
Artex Gorilla 5 years ago
The perception of America in my country is of a country full to the brim of hypocrisy. It shouts the loudest about freedom but really doesn't like anyone questioning authority. But questioning authority, questioning the president etc. should be praised and actively encouraged. It's like America is the self proclaimed cool kid in class, always making people laugh and easy going. Then another kid makes a light hearted comment and America, unable to deal with criticism, loses its cool and beats the kid to death. Then goes back to acting like the Fonze.
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Herb Eaversmells 5 years ago
The majority,of Americans feel the same way. I don't know what other countries have, but here in America we have lobbiest. Which is basically a group of people representing an industry, tobacco, guns, drugs etc. These lobbies give millions to politicians in order to get political favors, laws, etc. Then lets say a politician passes a law that eases a tax burden on an oil company, or lowers an EPA Restriction on a chemical company. When this politician retires, they miraculously get a high,paying board spot in that said industry. Its f*****g criminal.
kurisutofu 5 years ago
I've always said the problem the US has is the lobbying. How isn't they corruption?!
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wusah 5 years ago
We may have our flaws, we are still a very young country, but I love America. She is worth fighting for. And if all the media does is perpetuate the negative what are people supposed to think about America? Seriously. Come to my house I'll show you the real America. It's a pretty cool place, with pretty cool people in it.
Lillukka79 5 years ago
The young country doesn't really work as an explanation anymore. There are a lot of younger coyntries who have made it work, mine included. Finland is a bit over 100 years old and, dispite our problems, statisticly the best country in the world.
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Ozacoter 5 years ago
I mean a country where only the rich can really afford health care and education? No thank you!
sharron lynn parsons 5 years ago
I am Canadian, we have some problems also, however, reading the many comments, I agree with most, there is corruption, politics is a laugh here and U.S.A. how Trump was elected, confusion to many, I am stunned, his behavior is that of a spoiled child who must get his own way, it continues to amaze me, that trump was elected, I don't know for a fact, but he must be the worst president in the history of the U.S.A. !!!
Oathbraker 5 years ago
I just don't understand why those people equate wanting stricter gun laws to hating the constitution. I just don't get that leap of logic- "Oh, they dislike guns,. they must also hate the constitution, the Holy Bible and the baby Jesus". Some substances simply need to be controlled by the state. By their logic drugs like cocaine being illegal is also a breach of their precious "freedom". Drinking/ smoking age as well. Teenagers not being to buy their own alcohol is also a limit on freedom. I just don't get the twisted logic behind it.
Paul K. Johnson 5 years ago
They know that wanting stricter gun laws isn't against the Constitution. But they have no real argument to support their love and want of guns so they have to fabricate something to pretend it's "anti-American" to want gun controls. Gun nuts have no honest arguments that actually support them. I wish they'd just be honest and stop hiding behind lies about what the Constitution actually says and they'd just come out and say, "F**k you. I don't care what you say. I want my guns." because that's the truth of the matter. They couldn't care less about the Constitution. It's just like their bible. It's sacred when it says something they like but when it says something they don't like they just pretend it isn't there.
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Adam Cantor 5 years ago (edited)
Proud to be Canadian, where my children won't have to practice safety drills to protect against school shootings when they're in kindergarten. *Edit: Love how butthurt Americans are downvoting this!! LMFAO!!! **Edit #2..glad to see 12 canadians have upvoted me from the -6 Americans that downvoted me! Love you guys!
Ctrl Alt Mel 5 years ago
P.s. CANADA IS 1000000 TIMES BETTER THAN AMERICA, and the fact that they deny it and give you guys so much s**t, just goes to show how butthurt they are about how much better good old Canada is! SOOO jealous!
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Noez 🇸🇪 5 years ago (edited)
My Swedish thoughts: I've always thought that what Americans seem to think democracy is, is a strange and twisted version of it. Like a beginners version for new nations, a start-up democracy that should've been developed as years passed but somehow it never did. And what Americans seem to think socialism and a socialist nation is, is basicly what communism actually is. There is a difference there, you know......... Also, when Trump called Swedish prime minister and offered to pay bail for Asap Rocky, he missed the fact that Sweden doesn't have a bail system. So Sweden laughed when he went off on us via Twitter, and we are still laughing. I guess Trumps advisors stopped caring, huh?
Lemon Garnished Potato 5 years ago
I'm a non-american and a someone who writes a lot of stories for fun, as a part-time hobby. I write heaps of dystopian stories and from a lot of information I've found, most of the factors in some of my stories and America seems to line up scarily well.
Jace 5 years ago
Yes, this IS the dystopia. Why the f**k do people seem hell bent on waiting for it to get even worse before getting involved?? Refusing to vote is not rebellion; it is submission!!
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Bukky Olaneye 5 years ago
I laughed at some people trying to defend their country America and that's why they continue to pretend there's no racism or police killing people of colour.wake up and smell the coffee!!,you need to address this problems because they are glaring visible, cannot be shoved under the carpet.unless you like oppression of colour people, speak up and fight against and stop pretending all is well.
Leah Helbig 5 years ago
If this country is so horrible then why let all the immigrants in? Send them back for their own safety .
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Terd Fergison 5 years ago
Most of the problems in the USA come from the greedy ultra-wealthy. They have rigged the systems. They cause extreme corruption in our government. The people that do care about our government are working too many hours to be able to do much to participate in it, or they know the statistics (the US government only works for the ultra-wealthy) and are completely apathetic, or they fall for the propaganda of those getting them to vote against their best interest (looking at you, Red states). Through the government they have destroyed our education system. Having a less educated populace exacerbates most of the problems in the USA. A better educated populace could bring us much more wealth and prosperity (possibly creating great inventions), but the ultra-wealthy can't see that. They want people just smart enough to run their machines. They have rigged the prison systems so they can basically exploit slave labor. They are the ones largely responsible for our out of control pollution.
Jace 5 years ago
And you got voted down by the corporate boot-lickers. Here, have an up-vote for stating the facts.
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Christina Sersif 5 years ago
The constitution was written in the late 1780s and the whole purpose of the 2nd amendment was basically because during that time a lot of people would take of arms and fight wars since there was no draft or real official military. Why we still hold that ideal over 200 years later baffles me. I can understand why for protection you might keep a gun in the house and I get some people hunt and use a gun for hunting, but why do people need AR’s or military grade guns? Just why? Why are people in this country so obsessed with guns? Why when children get killed instead of blaming the accessibility of guns you blame something stupid like video games? Just so many whys while the rest of the world just watched and wonders wtf is the US doing
Esca Sav 5 years ago
My mother refuses to go to the emergency room because it costs $550.00 IF they deem it "not as an emergency," (and this is without the ambulance). This was after the Urgency Clinic told her that she legit has to go. Low and behold I persuaded her to go and even though everything in the medical papers deemed it as a neurological problem and she needs further attention, they still put it down as "not an emergency." This isn't even bad though. My father had a truck accident around ten years ago. His coworker didn't see him and drove over his arm. It completely destroyed it, but a surgeon (who I am extremely thankful for saving his life) managed to reconstruct it with a skin graph. It doesn't look like a proper arm and he doesn't have feeling, but he still can move his fingers and do everyday tasks. The BILL though??? If it wasn't for a family friend of ours who persuaded my mom to take this to court, we apparently would have paid for the bills instead of the company my father works at.
Esca Sav 5 years ago
Continued: It was several hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't remember the exact value as I would have to go back through our financial stack of disappointments, but even with the company paying for his surgeries in full, my entire life savings for college went to his rehabilitation and stay at the hospital. I am glad that we had that money for him and not my future. I prefer having him over my education, but that half a minute accident changed my family's entire life. Not because he was affected to the point where he couldn't walk or talk, he is the same man as before and even continued truck driving later on, but because of those damn medical bills. I just finished my degree this past May, so you can add on another set of dollars to our debt. This was never a country of "opportunity." It isn't even a country. It's a "business."
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Lazy Panda 5 years ago
I never realized that there were people who legitimately thought that America was the best country in the world, I thought it was just a thing in movies and TV shows. That’s next level delusion
Jace 5 years ago
Yes, there are a lot of American self image issues, which result in the delusion that the USA is “the best country in the world”. Look up the term “American exceptionalism”. Also, look up “nationalism”. The USA has a serious problem with these.
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Maggie Lowman 5 years ago
I completely agree with the outside perspective and I live in America!!! It's a s**t show and everyone is so sensitive over everything that nobody has guts to say anything to the contrary of what the leaders are doing to this place!... Believe me when I say I used to love my country but now if it was on fire n I had the water I'd drink it instead! -
Maggie Lowman 5 years ago
Shame on all of us for letting it get this bad!!!
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Wil Vanderheijden 5 years ago
The most bizarre thing I learned about America is the 10 day limit on the number of paid sickdays per year. In the Netherlands you can be sick for 104 WEEKS before your employer can begin proceedings to get you fired. If you get fired your income will drop, but you still get money from communal funds. So you won't become homeless.
sh 5 years ago
You can use literally 2 years of sick days and not be punished? How does that even work?
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Steve Mcnally 5 years ago
GUNS DON’T KILL PEOPLE! PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!!.......but tell you what, let’s give the people guns! Ffs🤦♂️
Lazy Panda 5 years ago
People kill people thanks to guns, those people wouldn’t have been able to do anything without to gun so it’s the guns fault that the person killed people. We know that the gun didn’t just come to life and start shooting people.
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Kevin Montgomery 5 years ago
One of the best things about the United States is that if you do not like living there, you can go live in the country of your choice. Visit other countries, find the one that works for you and move there. Life is too short to be unhappy where you live. The World is out there. Go and find the part of it that makes you happy.
Master Markus 5 years ago
A problem with that is some people are too poor to move. Also, it's a big f*****g country - I'd rather get rid of all the brainwashed idiots and evangelicals than have all that land in their hands.
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Bored Moogle 5 years ago
The "Muricans on here today are proving all the negative stereotypes true.
Bored Moogle 5 years ago
Trump may call other countries shitholes, but we are the real shithole. We're just too stupid as a whole to realize it.
Pored Banda 5 years ago
well, you might be too stupid, stop projecting that onto the entire country
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Kathleen Barlow 5 years ago
One of the saddest things is that from the perspective of people where I am (Southern Europe), every time there are reports of a mass/school shooting, nobody is shocked anymore. It isn't headline news anymore. People react in a nonchalant way to it, like 'oh, again?' and carry on. The outside world is become desensitised to your kids being murdered almost everyday. We are starting to not care.
Esca Sav 5 years ago
The issue is, that due to all of the media surrounded in murder, terrorism, etc. the newer generations are not reacting to it as previous ones had. When I was younger and I heard about a school shooting, I felt a sense of absolute dread and sadness, fear and paranoia. As the years went by, I genuinely sat at my table, drinking my tea, watching another news report about a school shooting, bombing, act of terrorism and felt nothing. That's the problem. Several people were killed on my university grounds while I was a student there, but the following day nearly all the students went back to their classes as if nothing had happened. We've become numb. Until the day I come close to death from one of these events or someone close to me does, I will not feel anything. Because this experience is no longer new, it is a norm. And this is a severity we cannot reverse for ourselves, but for future generations. It needs to end now or it will continue to repeat.
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Dude nDude 2 years ago
Here’s what I thunk the real solution would be, to start we need training courses, background checks, and overall higher restrictions on guns. But after you pass all the prerequisites, you should be able to shoot whatever you dam well please, full auto, bump stocks, rocket launchers, anything. Anyways enjoy the necro post
Nirity 5 years ago
You missed another major issue: americans gets mad at women who receive maternity leave, gets paid and keep their jobs. As a European I don't understand how it is expected a woman shall experience the big bodily effort, pain, fresh wounds, stiches etc. and be present at work the NEXT day or just few days after. Also they cringe if a woman is paid and her job secured for providing to her country a future worker and taxpayer. Like having a kid is some luxury, some stupid unimportant accessory which is a burden robbing taxpayers. They can't wrap their heads around the idea that without properly raised kids there would be noone to provide and care for others in the future. They expect ppl who have worked all their lives and paid taxes for all community services to also have collected on their own money to support themselves when old. To receive a pension after serving 45 years enrages them like growing old is some luxury and arrogance too, 45 years of serving are not enough to deserve to finally rest for a couple of years before your death. Meanwhile spending so much on wars, supporting wallstreet, lowering taxes for billionaires and huge corporations is totally ok. But helping a bleeding victim of an accident for free, supporting orphanages, education etc gets neglected. The American dream is a huge scam, their greed, consumerism and viscousness is destroying the environment.
Alex Makowski 5 years ago
I wish I could like this post a million times. Living in America is incredibly frustrating and disheartening.
Shanna Brown 5 years ago
I'm American. I agree with everything I've read. I love my country. I loathe our government.
Bill Wright 5 years ago
You know, that's a lot of criticism about America. Wasn't much said about the 2nd Amendment, which I find puzzling since supposedly this is an article about that topic. But about the criticism. If America is so bad, why do so many people want to come here? I'm not talking about the few who responded, I'm talking about the more the ones who legally go through our naturalization process (a laborious task), as well as the 20 million who skip that and just enter illegally.
Jace 5 years ago
Why do people want to come to my country? For starters, the pro-America propaganda. The myth of “the American dream”. Also: the USA has actually caused major problems in the countries south of it, which is causing the people there to flee north. For example: the USA deported gang members back to southern nations without warning those countries about the gang activity (deportation instead of law enforcement). When gang members got back to their home countries, their influence and resources (via their criminal connections to the USA) allowed them to have a lot more influence in their home countries. The crime got worse there and then people tried to flee north.
Load More Replies... Yasmin 5 years ago
And all these comments are from people that have never lived in a third world country, where you see shootings and violence more often than anything else. But no one talks about that. And if it was that bad why do many people still seek the "AMERICAN dream"?
Jace 5 years ago
Comparing the USA to third world countries to make us seem better is an embarrassing way to make an argument.
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Monika Rhodes 5 years ago
What always bugged me that the freedom to have guns outweighs the freedom for people to leave the house without being murdered. Pretty sad reading some of the pro gun (even pro rifle) comments etc.
Tiredofpayingforothers 2 years ago
And yet most countries come crying to America for help whenever they are at war or have a natural disaster. It's also funny how we literally have thousands of people every month trying to cross our borders illegally. Yeah, keep telling yourself America sucks. Maybe someday you'll believe your own BS.
Emiri-chan 3 years ago
I think people should be allowed to have guns to protect oneself (rich celebrities who have bodyguards have no place in that sort of thing) but I can see why some people want owning gun rights to be like driving rights.
deanna woods 5 years ago
I am an American and I am not blind to the problems facing our country. America used to be a great country and could still be, but somewhere along the line something broke and we have been unable to fix it. Instead of being just American we become Republican vs. Democrat and conservative vs. liberal. We scream and cuss a person out if their views differ from ours in the slightest. We have, because of free speech, allowed people to picket funerals and other settings that this type of behavior is inappropriate at. We allow the government to decide what a woman can do with her own body. We allow government officials to refuse to marry people based on the official's religious beliefs. We call teenagers who watched their friends get shot and protest it "crisis actors." We have a president who makes fun of anyone who doesn't agree with him. America can be a great country. It just needs to start all over and start fresh. It needs to decide that freedom of speech doesn't make hateful speech
KMB 5 years ago
You are all too busy reading headlines which do not represent the real America. Health Care is available for everyone. There are free clinics & hospitals all over the USA. Yes we have the right to have & carry a gun just like you carry knives and stab people to death all the time! Our President is awesome! Bet he will be re-elected. He has spent most of his first term cleaning up the disaster left by obama. I am happy to pay for my heath care. It allows me to CHOOSE my doctors and hospitals. Something Canada will never be allowed to do, you are stuck with any quack you get. Your taxes are outrageous, I can easily afford mine. Enjoy your life of no free choice canada.
Steve Mcnally 5 years ago
The world view of yanks is you are stupid, fat, ignorant, uneducated, parochial ( look it up) bullying, socially self harming, loud, fuckwits who wonder why people in other countries don’t like you (ah bless) who treat your own (poor) citizens like s**t and expect the world to actually love you🙄
Melissa D 5 years ago
Who is here for the comments and watching decent people call decent people horrible and other decent people calling decent people pieces of s**t? We are all people, bleed and p**s the same color. I fear the negativity posts like these create more than I worry about gun control. Psychological warfare my friends. You all just doing it to yourselves. Just be nice. Everyone get along, Europe is awesome, America is awesome. Your d***s are all huge. Everyone friends now?
David carro 5 years ago
It is a pitty because tye mayority in EEUU want a better life. But the "bullies" are winning. Hope the Bullies do not reproduce
Ctrl Alt Mel 5 years ago
SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT. And I'm glad so many people did lol its about time we all started pulling the blindfold off and seeing America for what it is, and that is NOT the greatest nation of all. Bunch of arrogant f*****s
This Is A Mans World 5 years ago
If the American people would know how the rest of the world thinks about America, their proud would change in shame. There is no nation that f****up the world more than America. Also there is no nation in the world more f**ked up than America. If you would descibe America from a outsiders perspective, than America represent hate, war, lies and no respect for people.
Jace 5 years ago
There are countries worse than the USA, but it actually is because of the USA that this is so. Between the post WWII nation building and the perpetual interference & regime changes for American corporate interests...
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Elizabeth Huerta 5 years ago
I believe the word many of them were looking for when describing our country is nationalism and/or religious nationalism. Patriotism is not the same as nationalism and there are many of us who can still tell the difference. However, I've been abroad, so maybe that's why. I took the time to study global Christianity and how other countries view our notion that we are "special." I'm so glad I had the opportunity to learn a different point of view.
M O'Connell 5 years ago
I have to ask: Other than the constant threat of Argentina, why do the Falkland Islanders have so many guns?
Carrie de Luka 5 years ago
You know the answer - because of the constant threat of Argentina.
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Phlop Ophlarb 5 years ago
A lot of those people seem to think us Americans think this is a great country… That's not my experience at all. Most people I know know it's pure c**p. Don't lump us in with the idiots!
Notsoswift 5 years ago
that says more about your choices in friends then it does in America
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Colin Leetham 5 years ago
I'm insulated from the worst of it: I'm a straight white male... but I also recognize how much privilege that grants me in the US.
Load More Replies... Leah Helbig 5 years ago
The 2nd amendment says the american people have the right to bear arms and IT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. To protect against foreign or domestic threats. I am a law abiding citizen my guns have never killed anyone so if you want to take them from me then you are now a domestic terrorist and you are my enemy. And if you don't like how this country is ran go somewhere else. I was I could bring ole George Washington back with the rest of the founding fathers and watch them kick all these stupid politicians reds and blues asses.
Gerry Higgins 5 years ago
I think a country can be judged "Good" or "Bad" by how many people are trying to get into it. The USA has a waiting list and people illegally cross the border just to get here. Can't be all that bad then, can it.
Leodavinci 5 years ago
"The outsider sees only the result of these things and tells it as it is." And, of course, their views are completely uncompromised by upbringings that are uncolored by their own histories and narrow, cultural bias.
Jace 5 years ago
No you can not guarantee this. There are countries that have proven your argument false. You’re just repeating NRA propaganda memes.
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Jace 5 years ago
What are you even talking about. Is this an anti-poor people rant?
Load More Replies... sh 5 years ago
So I'm reading that that you think Democrats are this country's savior?! That's funny. It is obvious you are one of those people who live in an echo chamber and hates the other "side", regardless. The problem is every single person who falls for anything the left OR right try to make them believe. Divided we fall, and you are obviously one that is helping the division grow.
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Carson Skjerdal 5 years ago
Wasn't this written when the only guns were basically muskets? Why not change your constitution?
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Jace 5 years ago
You’re living under some misunderstandings. Hitler limited weapons for the people he was oppressing, and widened ownership for the rest. Also, if you were paying attention to our military, you’d know that no matter what firearms you acquire, you will never ever form a militia that will exceed the military’s ability to crush you like a bug. This “protect us against our own government” line is yet another myth promoted by the NRA.
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Ctrl Alt Mel 5 years ago
I would rather live ANYWHERE if it meant avoiding ignorant people like yourself :)
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Master Markus 5 years ago
That's a shame, because you've got a lot of s****y stuff going on with those things right now.
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Master Markus 5 years ago
I don't know why Colin Leetham (or Terd Ferigson above) are being downvoted so much when they're just telling the truth. There are a lot of problems with the current state of the U.S. The way to deal with it is not ignoring the fact that they're there!
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Ctrl Alt Mel 5 years ago
I wonder if you americans would make the same effort to uncover the medias misconceptions on Islam as a religion, and Muslims as a whole? NOPE. You gobble it up like a thanksgiving turkey. All muslims are terrorists in your eyes, and a majority of you would no ZERO to prove it wrong. So please fudge off with your b******t statistics.
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Ctrl Alt Mel 5 years ago
The constitution is from the 1700's Lucille. Do you know how many things were legal in the 1700s that you would absolutely cringe over in 2019???? Did you know that in the 18th century, it was a mans legal right to beat his wife if he felt the need to? Did you also know that you could buy Meth and heroin at the local drug store legally? Did you know that men were legally allowed to rape their women in these centuries? Would you be ok with these things happening today Lucille? Do you think that these should also still be allowed to day because it was once our legal right??? Things change for a reason Lucille. Why? Because THIS S**T IS ABSURD. The fact that ya'll still believe in this b******t constitutional right, which again, was applied in 1787 (when we were duelin at high noon, and drinkin moonshine in saloons with swingin' doors, and robbin trains on horses) just goes to show how UTTERLY BIZZARE and stupid your backwards a*s country really is. My god.
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Brandy Grote 5 years ago
I'm a veteran. Been shooting for fun since I was 10, own a few. However... my "right" to put little holes in pieces of paper, or even in animals I'm not going to eat, is not greater than the right of any child to live. Period.
Artex Gorilla 5 years ago
As an outsider, I have no doubt that the majority, the vast majority of Americans are perfectly nice, pleasant people. The issue seems to be how America, as a nation, acts as a collective. It's like all the goodness within individuals is forgotten and it loses all empathy with its own citizens.
Artex Gorilla 5 years ago
The perception of America in my country is of a country full to the brim of hypocrisy. It shouts the loudest about freedom but really doesn't like anyone questioning authority. But questioning authority, questioning the president etc. should be praised and actively encouraged. It's like America is the self proclaimed cool kid in class, always making people laugh and easy going. Then another kid makes a light hearted comment and America, unable to deal with criticism, loses its cool and beats the kid to death. Then goes back to acting like the Fonze.
Load More Replies... Herb Eaversmells 5 years ago
The majority,of Americans feel the same way. I don't know what other countries have, but here in America we have lobbiest. Which is basically a group of people representing an industry, tobacco, guns, drugs etc. These lobbies give millions to politicians in order to get political favors, laws, etc. Then lets say a politician passes a law that eases a tax burden on an oil company, or lowers an EPA Restriction on a chemical company. When this politician retires, they miraculously get a high,paying board spot in that said industry. Its f*****g criminal.
kurisutofu 5 years ago
I've always said the problem the US has is the lobbying. How isn't they corruption?!
Load More Replies... wusah 5 years ago
We may have our flaws, we are still a very young country, but I love America. She is worth fighting for. And if all the media does is perpetuate the negative what are people supposed to think about America? Seriously. Come to my house I'll show you the real America. It's a pretty cool place, with pretty cool people in it.
Lillukka79 5 years ago
The young country doesn't really work as an explanation anymore. There are a lot of younger coyntries who have made it work, mine included. Finland is a bit over 100 years old and, dispite our problems, statisticly the best country in the world.
Load More Replies... Ozacoter 5 years ago
I mean a country where only the rich can really afford health care and education? No thank you!
sharron lynn parsons 5 years ago
I am Canadian, we have some problems also, however, reading the many comments, I agree with most, there is corruption, politics is a laugh here and U.S.A. how Trump was elected, confusion to many, I am stunned, his behavior is that of a spoiled child who must get his own way, it continues to amaze me, that trump was elected, I don't know for a fact, but he must be the worst president in the history of the U.S.A. !!!
Oathbraker 5 years ago
I just don't understand why those people equate wanting stricter gun laws to hating the constitution. I just don't get that leap of logic- "Oh, they dislike guns,. they must also hate the constitution, the Holy Bible and the baby Jesus". Some substances simply need to be controlled by the state. By their logic drugs like cocaine being illegal is also a breach of their precious "freedom". Drinking/ smoking age as well. Teenagers not being to buy their own alcohol is also a limit on freedom. I just don't get the twisted logic behind it.
Paul K. Johnson 5 years ago
They know that wanting stricter gun laws isn't against the Constitution. But they have no real argument to support their love and want of guns so they have to fabricate something to pretend it's "anti-American" to want gun controls. Gun nuts have no honest arguments that actually support them. I wish they'd just be honest and stop hiding behind lies about what the Constitution actually says and they'd just come out and say, "F**k you. I don't care what you say. I want my guns." because that's the truth of the matter. They couldn't care less about the Constitution. It's just like their bible. It's sacred when it says something they like but when it says something they don't like they just pretend it isn't there.
Load More Replies... Adam Cantor 5 years ago (edited)
Proud to be Canadian, where my children won't have to practice safety drills to protect against school shootings when they're in kindergarten. *Edit: Love how butthurt Americans are downvoting this!! LMFAO!!! **Edit #2..glad to see 12 canadians have upvoted me from the -6 Americans that downvoted me! Love you guys!
Ctrl Alt Mel 5 years ago
P.s. CANADA IS 1000000 TIMES BETTER THAN AMERICA, and the fact that they deny it and give you guys so much s**t, just goes to show how butthurt they are about how much better good old Canada is! SOOO jealous!
Load More Replies... Noez 🇸🇪 5 years ago (edited)
My Swedish thoughts: I've always thought that what Americans seem to think democracy is, is a strange and twisted version of it. Like a beginners version for new nations, a start-up democracy that should've been developed as years passed but somehow it never did. And what Americans seem to think socialism and a socialist nation is, is basicly what communism actually is. There is a difference there, you know......... Also, when Trump called Swedish prime minister and offered to pay bail for Asap Rocky, he missed the fact that Sweden doesn't have a bail system. So Sweden laughed when he went off on us via Twitter, and we are still laughing. I guess Trumps advisors stopped caring, huh?
Lemon Garnished Potato 5 years ago
I'm a non-american and a someone who writes a lot of stories for fun, as a part-time hobby. I write heaps of dystopian stories and from a lot of information I've found, most of the factors in some of my stories and America seems to line up scarily well.
Jace 5 years ago
Yes, this IS the dystopia. Why the f**k do people seem hell bent on waiting for it to get even worse before getting involved?? Refusing to vote is not rebellion; it is submission!!
Load More Replies... Bukky Olaneye 5 years ago
I laughed at some people trying to defend their country America and that's why they continue to pretend there's no racism or police killing people of colour.wake up and smell the coffee!!,you need to address this problems because they are glaring visible, cannot be shoved under the carpet.unless you like oppression of colour people, speak up and fight against and stop pretending all is well.
Leah Helbig 5 years ago
If this country is so horrible then why let all the immigrants in? Send them back for their own safety .
Load More Replies... Terd Fergison 5 years ago
Most of the problems in the USA come from the greedy ultra-wealthy. They have rigged the systems. They cause extreme corruption in our government. The people that do care about our government are working too many hours to be able to do much to participate in it, or they know the statistics (the US government only works for the ultra-wealthy) and are completely apathetic, or they fall for the propaganda of those getting them to vote against their best interest (looking at you, Red states). Through the government they have destroyed our education system. Having a less educated populace exacerbates most of the problems in the USA. A better educated populace could bring us much more wealth and prosperity (possibly creating great inventions), but the ultra-wealthy can't see that. They want people just smart enough to run their machines. They have rigged the prison systems so they can basically exploit slave labor. They are the ones largely responsible for our out of control pollution.
Jace 5 years ago
And you got voted down by the corporate boot-lickers. Here, have an up-vote for stating the facts.
Load More Replies... Christina Sersif 5 years ago
The constitution was written in the late 1780s and the whole purpose of the 2nd amendment was basically because during that time a lot of people would take of arms and fight wars since there was no draft or real official military. Why we still hold that ideal over 200 years later baffles me. I can understand why for protection you might keep a gun in the house and I get some people hunt and use a gun for hunting, but why do people need AR’s or military grade guns? Just why? Why are people in this country so obsessed with guns? Why when children get killed instead of blaming the accessibility of guns you blame something stupid like video games? Just so many whys while the rest of the world just watched and wonders wtf is the US doing
Esca Sav 5 years ago
My mother refuses to go to the emergency room because it costs $550.00 IF they deem it "not as an emergency," (and this is without the ambulance). This was after the Urgency Clinic told her that she legit has to go. Low and behold I persuaded her to go and even though everything in the medical papers deemed it as a neurological problem and she needs further attention, they still put it down as "not an emergency." This isn't even bad though. My father had a truck accident around ten years ago. His coworker didn't see him and drove over his arm. It completely destroyed it, but a surgeon (who I am extremely thankful for saving his life) managed to reconstruct it with a skin graph. It doesn't look like a proper arm and he doesn't have feeling, but he still can move his fingers and do everyday tasks. The BILL though??? If it wasn't for a family friend of ours who persuaded my mom to take this to court, we apparently would have paid for the bills instead of the company my father works at.
Esca Sav 5 years ago
Continued: It was several hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't remember the exact value as I would have to go back through our financial stack of disappointments, but even with the company paying for his surgeries in full, my entire life savings for college went to his rehabilitation and stay at the hospital. I am glad that we had that money for him and not my future. I prefer having him over my education, but that half a minute accident changed my family's entire life. Not because he was affected to the point where he couldn't walk or talk, he is the same man as before and even continued truck driving later on, but because of those damn medical bills. I just finished my degree this past May, so you can add on another set of dollars to our debt. This was never a country of "opportunity." It isn't even a country. It's a "business."
Load More Replies... Lazy Panda 5 years ago
I never realized that there were people who legitimately thought that America was the best country in the world, I thought it was just a thing in movies and TV shows. That’s next level delusion
Jace 5 years ago
Yes, there are a lot of American self image issues, which result in the delusion that the USA is “the best country in the world”. Look up the term “American exceptionalism”. Also, look up “nationalism”. The USA has a serious problem with these.
Load More Replies... Maggie Lowman 5 years ago
I completely agree with the outside perspective and I live in America!!! It's a s**t show and everyone is so sensitive over everything that nobody has guts to say anything to the contrary of what the leaders are doing to this place!... Believe me when I say I used to love my country but now if it was on fire n I had the water I'd drink it instead! -
Maggie Lowman 5 years ago
Shame on all of us for letting it get this bad!!!
Load More Replies... Wil Vanderheijden 5 years ago
The most bizarre thing I learned about America is the 10 day limit on the number of paid sickdays per year. In the Netherlands you can be sick for 104 WEEKS before your employer can begin proceedings to get you fired. If you get fired your income will drop, but you still get money from communal funds. So you won't become homeless.
sh 5 years ago
You can use literally 2 years of sick days and not be punished? How does that even work?
Load More Replies... Steve Mcnally 5 years ago
GUNS DON’T KILL PEOPLE! PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!!.......but tell you what, let’s give the people guns! Ffs🤦♂️
Lazy Panda 5 years ago
People kill people thanks to guns, those people wouldn’t have been able to do anything without to gun so it’s the guns fault that the person killed people. We know that the gun didn’t just come to life and start shooting people.
Load More Replies... Kevin Montgomery 5 years ago
One of the best things about the United States is that if you do not like living there, you can go live in the country of your choice. Visit other countries, find the one that works for you and move there. Life is too short to be unhappy where you live. The World is out there. Go and find the part of it that makes you happy.
Master Markus 5 years ago
A problem with that is some people are too poor to move. Also, it's a big f*****g country - I'd rather get rid of all the brainwashed idiots and evangelicals than have all that land in their hands.
Load More Replies... Bored Moogle 5 years ago
The "Muricans on here today are proving all the negative stereotypes true.
Bored Moogle 5 years ago
Trump may call other countries shitholes, but we are the real shithole. We're just too stupid as a whole to realize it.
Pored Banda 5 years ago
well, you might be too stupid, stop projecting that onto the entire country
Load More Replies... Kathleen Barlow 5 years ago
One of the saddest things is that from the perspective of people where I am (Southern Europe), every time there are reports of a mass/school shooting, nobody is shocked anymore. It isn't headline news anymore. People react in a nonchalant way to it, like 'oh, again?' and carry on. The outside world is become desensitised to your kids being murdered almost everyday. We are starting to not care.
Esca Sav 5 years ago
The issue is, that due to all of the media surrounded in murder, terrorism, etc. the newer generations are not reacting to it as previous ones had. When I was younger and I heard about a school shooting, I felt a sense of absolute dread and sadness, fear and paranoia. As the years went by, I genuinely sat at my table, drinking my tea, watching another news report about a school shooting, bombing, act of terrorism and felt nothing. That's the problem. Several people were killed on my university grounds while I was a student there, but the following day nearly all the students went back to their classes as if nothing had happened. We've become numb. Until the day I come close to death from one of these events or someone close to me does, I will not feel anything. Because this experience is no longer new, it is a norm. And this is a severity we cannot reverse for ourselves, but for future generations. It needs to end now or it will continue to repeat.
Load More Replies... Dude nDude 2 years ago
Here’s what I thunk the real solution would be, to start we need training courses, background checks, and overall higher restrictions on guns. But after you pass all the prerequisites, you should be able to shoot whatever you dam well please, full auto, bump stocks, rocket launchers, anything. Anyways enjoy the necro post
Nirity 5 years ago
You missed another major issue: americans gets mad at women who receive maternity leave, gets paid and keep their jobs. As a European I don't understand how it is expected a woman shall experience the big bodily effort, pain, fresh wounds, stiches etc. and be present at work the NEXT day or just few days after. Also they cringe if a woman is paid and her job secured for providing to her country a future worker and taxpayer. Like having a kid is some luxury, some stupid unimportant accessory which is a burden robbing taxpayers. They can't wrap their heads around the idea that without properly raised kids there would be noone to provide and care for others in the future. They expect ppl who have worked all their lives and paid taxes for all community services to also have collected on their own money to support themselves when old. To receive a pension after serving 45 years enrages them like growing old is some luxury and arrogance too, 45 years of serving are not enough to deserve to finally rest for a couple of years before your death. Meanwhile spending so much on wars, supporting wallstreet, lowering taxes for billionaires and huge corporations is totally ok. But helping a bleeding victim of an accident for free, supporting orphanages, education etc gets neglected. The American dream is a huge scam, their greed, consumerism and viscousness is destroying the environment.
Alex Makowski 5 years ago
I wish I could like this post a million times. Living in America is incredibly frustrating and disheartening.
Shanna Brown 5 years ago
I'm American. I agree with everything I've read. I love my country. I loathe our government.
Bill Wright 5 years ago
You know, that's a lot of criticism about America. Wasn't much said about the 2nd Amendment, which I find puzzling since supposedly this is an article about that topic. But about the criticism. If America is so bad, why do so many people want to come here? I'm not talking about the few who responded, I'm talking about the more the ones who legally go through our naturalization process (a laborious task), as well as the 20 million who skip that and just enter illegally.
Jace 5 years ago
Why do people want to come to my country? For starters, the pro-America propaganda. The myth of “the American dream”. Also: the USA has actually caused major problems in the countries south of it, which is causing the people there to flee north. For example: the USA deported gang members back to southern nations without warning those countries about the gang activity (deportation instead of law enforcement). When gang members got back to their home countries, their influence and resources (via their criminal connections to the USA) allowed them to have a lot more influence in their home countries. The crime got worse there and then people tried to flee north.
Load More Replies... Yasmin 5 years ago
And all these comments are from people that have never lived in a third world country, where you see shootings and violence more often than anything else. But no one talks about that. And if it was that bad why do many people still seek the "AMERICAN dream"?
Jace 5 years ago
Comparing the USA to third world countries to make us seem better is an embarrassing way to make an argument.
Load More Replies... Monika Rhodes 5 years ago
What always bugged me that the freedom to have guns outweighs the freedom for people to leave the house without being murdered. Pretty sad reading some of the pro gun (even pro rifle) comments etc.
Tiredofpayingforothers 2 years ago
And yet most countries come crying to America for help whenever they are at war or have a natural disaster. It's also funny how we literally have thousands of people every month trying to cross our borders illegally. Yeah, keep telling yourself America sucks. Maybe someday you'll believe your own BS.
Emiri-chan 3 years ago
I think people should be allowed to have guns to protect oneself (rich celebrities who have bodyguards have no place in that sort of thing) but I can see why some people want owning gun rights to be like driving rights.
deanna woods 5 years ago
I am an American and I am not blind to the problems facing our country. America used to be a great country and could still be, but somewhere along the line something broke and we have been unable to fix it. Instead of being just American we become Republican vs. Democrat and conservative vs. liberal. We scream and cuss a person out if their views differ from ours in the slightest. We have, because of free speech, allowed people to picket funerals and other settings that this type of behavior is inappropriate at. We allow the government to decide what a woman can do with her own body. We allow government officials to refuse to marry people based on the official's religious beliefs. We call teenagers who watched their friends get shot and protest it "crisis actors." We have a president who makes fun of anyone who doesn't agree with him. America can be a great country. It just needs to start all over and start fresh. It needs to decide that freedom of speech doesn't make hateful speech
KMB 5 years ago
You are all too busy reading headlines which do not represent the real America. Health Care is available for everyone. There are free clinics & hospitals all over the USA. Yes we have the right to have & carry a gun just like you carry knives and stab people to death all the time! Our President is awesome! Bet he will be re-elected. He has spent most of his first term cleaning up the disaster left by obama. I am happy to pay for my heath care. It allows me to CHOOSE my doctors and hospitals. Something Canada will never be allowed to do, you are stuck with any quack you get. Your taxes are outrageous, I can easily afford mine. Enjoy your life of no free choice canada.
Steve Mcnally 5 years ago
The world view of yanks is you are stupid, fat, ignorant, uneducated, parochial ( look it up) bullying, socially self harming, loud, fuckwits who wonder why people in other countries don’t like you (ah bless) who treat your own (poor) citizens like s**t and expect the world to actually love you🙄
Melissa D 5 years ago
Who is here for the comments and watching decent people call decent people horrible and other decent people calling decent people pieces of s**t? We are all people, bleed and p**s the same color. I fear the negativity posts like these create more than I worry about gun control. Psychological warfare my friends. You all just doing it to yourselves. Just be nice. Everyone get along, Europe is awesome, America is awesome. Your d***s are all huge. Everyone friends now?
David carro 5 years ago
It is a pitty because tye mayority in EEUU want a better life. But the "bullies" are winning. Hope the Bullies do not reproduce
Ctrl Alt Mel 5 years ago
SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT. And I'm glad so many people did lol its about time we all started pulling the blindfold off and seeing America for what it is, and that is NOT the greatest nation of all. Bunch of arrogant f*****s
This Is A Mans World 5 years ago
If the American people would know how the rest of the world thinks about America, their proud would change in shame. There is no nation that f****up the world more than America. Also there is no nation in the world more f**ked up than America. If you would descibe America from a outsiders perspective, than America represent hate, war, lies and no respect for people.
Jace 5 years ago
There are countries worse than the USA, but it actually is because of the USA that this is so. Between the post WWII nation building and the perpetual interference & regime changes for American corporate interests...
Load More Replies... Elizabeth Huerta 5 years ago
I believe the word many of them were looking for when describing our country is nationalism and/or religious nationalism. Patriotism is not the same as nationalism and there are many of us who can still tell the difference. However, I've been abroad, so maybe that's why. I took the time to study global Christianity and how other countries view our notion that we are "special." I'm so glad I had the opportunity to learn a different point of view.
M O'Connell 5 years ago
I have to ask: Other than the constant threat of Argentina, why do the Falkland Islanders have so many guns?
Carrie de Luka 5 years ago
You know the answer - because of the constant threat of Argentina.
Load More Replies... Phlop Ophlarb 5 years ago
A lot of those people seem to think us Americans think this is a great country… That's not my experience at all. Most people I know know it's pure c**p. Don't lump us in with the idiots!
Notsoswift 5 years ago
that says more about your choices in friends then it does in America
Load More Replies... Colin Leetham 5 years ago
I'm insulated from the worst of it: I'm a straight white male... but I also recognize how much privilege that grants me in the US.
Load More Replies... Leah Helbig 5 years ago
The 2nd amendment says the american people have the right to bear arms and IT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. To protect against foreign or domestic threats. I am a law abiding citizen my guns have never killed anyone so if you want to take them from me then you are now a domestic terrorist and you are my enemy. And if you don't like how this country is ran go somewhere else. I was I could bring ole George Washington back with the rest of the founding fathers and watch them kick all these stupid politicians reds and blues asses.
Gerry Higgins 5 years ago
I think a country can be judged "Good" or "Bad" by how many people are trying to get into it. The USA has a waiting list and people illegally cross the border just to get here. Can't be all that bad then, can it.
Leodavinci 5 years ago
"The outsider sees only the result of these things and tells it as it is." And, of course, their views are completely uncompromised by upbringings that are uncolored by their own histories and narrow, cultural bias.
Jace 5 years ago
No you can not guarantee this. There are countries that have proven your argument false. You’re just repeating NRA propaganda memes.
Load More Replies... Jace 5 years ago
What are you even talking about. Is this an anti-poor people rant?
Load More Replies... sh 5 years ago
So I'm reading that that you think Democrats are this country's savior?! That's funny. It is obvious you are one of those people who live in an echo chamber and hates the other "side", regardless. The problem is every single person who falls for anything the left OR right try to make them believe. Divided we fall, and you are obviously one that is helping the division grow.
Load More Replies... Carson Skjerdal 5 years ago
Wasn't this written when the only guns were basically muskets? Why not change your constitution?
Load More Replies... Jace 5 years ago
You’re living under some misunderstandings. Hitler limited weapons for the people he was oppressing, and widened ownership for the rest. Also, if you were paying attention to our military, you’d know that no matter what firearms you acquire, you will never ever form a militia that will exceed the military’s ability to crush you like a bug. This “protect us against our own government” line is yet another myth promoted by the NRA.
Load More Replies... Ctrl Alt Mel 5 years ago
I would rather live ANYWHERE if it meant avoiding ignorant people like yourself :)
Load More Replies... Master Markus 5 years ago
That's a shame, because you've got a lot of s****y stuff going on with those things right now.
Load More Replies... Master Markus 5 years ago
I don't know why Colin Leetham (or Terd Ferigson above) are being downvoted so much when they're just telling the truth. There are a lot of problems with the current state of the U.S. The way to deal with it is not ignoring the fact that they're there!
Load More Replies... Ctrl Alt Mel 5 years ago
I wonder if you americans would make the same effort to uncover the medias misconceptions on Islam as a religion, and Muslims as a whole? NOPE. You gobble it up like a thanksgiving turkey. All muslims are terrorists in your eyes, and a majority of you would no ZERO to prove it wrong. So please fudge off with your b******t statistics.
Load More Replies... Ctrl Alt Mel 5 years ago
The constitution is from the 1700's Lucille. Do you know how many things were legal in the 1700s that you would absolutely cringe over in 2019???? Did you know that in the 18th century, it was a mans legal right to beat his wife if he felt the need to? Did you also know that you could buy Meth and heroin at the local drug store legally? Did you know that men were legally allowed to rape their women in these centuries? Would you be ok with these things happening today Lucille? Do you think that these should also still be allowed to day because it was once our legal right??? Things change for a reason Lucille. Why? Because THIS S**T IS ABSURD. The fact that ya'll still believe in this b******t constitutional right, which again, was applied in 1787 (when we were duelin at high noon, and drinkin moonshine in saloons with swingin' doors, and robbin trains on horses) just goes to show how UTTERLY BIZZARE and stupid your backwards a*s country really is. My god.
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