AlphaPuck: When we stop hearing things like 'libertard' and 'snowflake' and 'obuma', then we can talk, until then, look in the mirror. BTW, This entire post is stats and empirical evidence.

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@JP I think you need to look at the definition of empirical. This post is entirely personal experience based. Not 1 single stat in the original post.

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Is name calling the only argument people like you have? How about stats and empirical evidence?

In theory, if pulling doesn't work, try pushing...

Lower body too (I know that this makes no anatomical sense. Just go with it)

You miss the point Troy Penny - guns are difficult to get hold of so the criminals just don't have them. Break ins, for example, are usually burglaries commited when the home owner is out. Guns give a false sense of safety to the criminal in this scenario making them take more risks that tend to be bad for the home owner.

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Because criminals always obey the law!

Right... because you count all those times someone pulled a gun unnecessarily. Funny how I've stopped all kinds of situations from escalating - including a home invasion - without ever drawing a gun. Yeah, those numbers are b******t. Look at every other country on the planet that doesn't have gun ownership like the USA and somehow they get through it all without everyone pulling guns on each other.

Pulling a gun on a bad guy will rather more often result in the good guy getting shot. Would be sure more good guys get shot than bad guys. Period

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The regurgitator of nonsense has arrived.

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Until one of you have actually had to pull a gun in defense, I would suggest not trying to tell me how I should have handled my situation. I drew my weapon and the threat on my life was immediately stopped because people like me who know how to assess situations know when its the right time to draw, and when its not. You don't get to tell me how to handle my 2nd amendment right. Just like I am not here telling you cannot speak with your 1st amendment right. You can not like my opinion, but you can respect it, much like what I do to you

And that's horseshit. I know you count all the people who the good guys kill in movies and tv shows but fictional saved lives don't count. One gun nut tried to show me how many times a good guy with a gun killed a bad guy with a gun. He found about ten cases spread out over six years. That's less than die in half a day from guns. By the way, we're talking about civilians with guns - not LEO and military.

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@Paul K. Johnson. Not sure were your "gun nut" got his numbers, But we had that many cases here in NC alone...including an 11 year old girl that shot two intruders that kicked in the front door of her grandparents home. One of them died, the other spent a week in the hospital before he was transported to jail. We had a guy shoot another criminal that tried to carjack him, one that shot a man that was beating the c**p out of a pregnant woman. One that was on drugs that was attacking anyone he came across. So on and so forth. Perhaps your "gun nut" found the ones that made national headlines...not the local good gun owner vs bad criminals. Do a little reading first before removing guns from law-abiding citizens.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/03/20/any-study-of-gun-violence-should-include-how-guns-save-lives/#643c9db45edc