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Woman Stops Talking To Mom Who Chose To Babysit Her Grandson Instead Of Watching Her Dogs
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Woman Stops Talking To Mom Who Chose To Babysit Her Grandson Instead Of Watching Her Dogs

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There’s almost nothing more exciting for older parents than finally becoming grandparents. After years of having an empty nest and nobody at home to spoil, having a baby in the family is a huge thrill. But when one mother decided to prioritize her infant grandson over the two dogs she had been watching for years, her daughter did not take the news well.

Below, you’ll find a story that this mom posted on the “Am I the [Jerk]?” subreddit to find out if she was in the wrong for choosing to watch her grandson instead of her grand-dogs. Keep reading to find all of the details, as well as some of the replies readers shared.  

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It’s extremely exciting for parents to finally become grandparents

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But when this mom decided to start watching her grandson instead of her daughter’s dogs, she found herself getting the silent treatment

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Pet care costs less than child care, but it can still become expensive quickly

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Having a dog is obviously not the same amount of responsibility as having a human child. However, there are many aspects of having both that overlap. They can’t be left alone until they’ve reached a certain age (and even then, not for too long), and if you’re going to be away for a while, it’s important to hire someone to watch over them. 

But it can be difficult to find someone that you trust to look after child or fur baby, as you want to make sure that whoever’s taking care of them loves them almost as much as you do. And of course, quality child (or pet) care can cost a fortune. 

According to TrustedCare, the average cost for childcare in the United States is $400 to $1,500 every month. But it can be even more expensive for infants, starting at $650 per month. And if you’re looking at having a full-time nanny, that can set you back $4,300 every month.

There’s no doubt that having kids is more expensive than having pets, as the average child costs their parents between $16,227 and $18,262 every year while owning a dog costs between $1,000 to $5,225 annually. But it’s still not cheap to make sure that your precious pup is well cared for and looked after while you’re not around.

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Pet sitters often charge about $100 per day

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Paws At Home reports that professional pet sisters for dogs often charge between $23 to $28 for a mere 15-minute visit. And if you’d like them to stay for an hour, it’s probably going to cost closer to $45. For the entire day, you might have to pay $85 to $90, and if you want them to check-in with your pets four times a day, you could easily spend over $100 each day.

The responsibilities of a pet sitter are going to be similar to those of a babysitter watching a child. It’s important to ensure that the animal is safe and well cared for, has plenty of food and water, has playtime, has someone to clean up after them and has someone around to keep them company. And just like with your children, you’re not going to want just anyone watching your pets.

When it comes to choosing the right pet sitter for your beloved animals, Pet Harmony recommends first considering their experience, specifically with the type of pet that you have. If they’ve watched a hundred cats before but have never had to look after a puppy, they might not be the right fit for your 4-month old beagle.

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It’s also wise to have them over for a supervised visit with your pet before you hand over the keys. Watch their behavior, and allow your pet the opportunity to get comfortable with them while you’re around.

It’s important to find a trusted pet sitter that makes you and your furry friend feel comfortable

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As far as why it’s so important for your beloved pets to be looked after by a trusted sitter, the pet sitting platform Scout explains on their site that reliability is key when finding someone to watch our furry family members. You and your pet should both feel comfortable knowing that your sitter will always be there when you need them and provide the love and care that your pet needs.

Consistency also helps our pets trust their sitters, so it’s important for them to be with the same sitter over and over again to build a relationship with them. Just like kids, our pets crave consistency and structure. This can bring peace of mind to both owners and pets, as they always know what to expect when they’re not able to be together. 

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Dogs are highly intelligent and sensitive creatures, and they can quickly become stressed out in unfamiliar environments or around humans that they don’t know or trust. So it’s understandable that dog parents might not be thrilled about having to find new care, especially care that they suddenly have to pay for.

But is it fair for this grandmother to prioritize her daughter’s son over her other daughter’s dogs? We would love to hear your thoughts down below, pandas. Then, if you’re interested in reading another piece discussing family drama surrounding pets, we recommend checking out this one next!            

Many readers assured the mother that she wasn’t wrong, but some still explained why her daughter might be so upset

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However, some took the daughter’s side and agreed that the mother was being unfair

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Howdy, I'm Adelaide! I'm originally from Texas, but after graduating from university with an acting degree, I relocated to sunny Los Angeles for a while. I then got a serious bite from the travel bug and found myself moving to Sweden and England before settling in Lithuania about two years ago. I'm passionate about animal welfare, sustainability and eating delicious food. But as you can see, I cover a wide range of topics including drama, internet trends and hilarious memes. I can easily be won over with a Seinfeld reference, vegan pastry or glass of fresh cold brew. And during my free time, I can usually be seen strolling through a park, playing tennis or baking something tasty.

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Jill Rhodry
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I reckon there's a high chance that this some kind of sibling rivalry.

Pittsburgh rare
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It smells like that. The way one sister made a very specific rule that obvs affected the other and how the dog owner flipped.

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Paula Wynn
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get it. When daughter is in town, aren't the dogs alone in her house while she's at work? Aren't they okay by themselves then? So what is different when she's out of town? Grandma can watch the baby during the day, then the dogs at night. She can let them out to do their business and exercise, then feed them. She can either stay there or go back home until the next evening. Sorry, but one daughter's had 3 years of free dog care. It's the other daughter's turn now. In the long run, it's GRANDMA'S life! If she wants to cuddle with her first grandchild now, it's HER DECISION!!!

MR
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem isn't giving up free help for one to give to the other. It's putting the needs of one daughter over the needs of the other. From the outside, it feels like just free help. From the inside it's playing favorites with her daughters' needs.

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G A
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both daughters are thoughtless to offload their care problems on their mother.

Hi, it's me
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, this woman offered to watch her grandchild. She WANTS to watch the baby.

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Marsha Workman
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't like the part ...these are the rules they gave me in order to let me watch my grandson. I think that is overstepping. I have watched all my grandchildren in my home for the last 14 years. I have never been given any rules. At that point I would say take him to daycare. I also have a dog. The kids love her.

Kare Deter
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Absolutely overstepping. If my kids came to me and said I want you to do me a favor.. provide child care for free, in your home, and then I will dictate the rules to you... GTFO. No. Especially not when your arbitrary rules impact another one of my children who I've already made a commitment to. You want free child care from me? Here are my rules...

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Paul C
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTA people are just crazy. How someone chooses to spend their time is their business. Nobody has the right to expect them to do anything for them (school age children and maybe partner excepted). That covers both her daughters, not just the one with the dogs. But who the hell equivalences looking after dogs with looking after a grandchild???? No sane person would think of the dogs first for a heartbeat.

Helena
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It isn't dog vs baby, its daughter vs daughter. Doggy day care is wicked expensive, just like childcare. I agree with the one that said you had 9 months to discuss this and work something out. The only reason the sis with a kid didn't, sibling rivalry. She wanted to stick it to her sister. After watching my large family of aunts and uncles pull this c**p, becomes super easy to spot.

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Kieran N
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the AH is the sister who knew damn well what she was doing when she made the "no animals" rule. I was a baby with two dogs and a cat in the house and I obviously lived to tell the tale. Would it be difficult to section off part of the living room for the safety of the baby/comfort of his parents while also continuing to watch the dogs? Also I agree theres definitely some sibling rivalry here.

V
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in a city with 5 hospitals, just one of them had over 100 children admitted with dog bites last year. Then there's 4 other hospitals they may have been admitted to. You have a case of survivor bias.

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just me
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This reminds me of one of those "you have flowers, a goat, and a wolf, and need to cross a river" problems. How about Grandma brings the dogs to Mom's house where they chill in a crate for the day and picks up baby. Then drop baby off at the end of the day, grab the dogs for the remainder of the day/night. Dogs and baby are never in the same place, everyone is happy. Fr, though, don't get pets if you won't be around to take care of them. It also isn't cool if Grandma told sister she'd help take care of the dogs when sister got them (as one of the comments makes it sound) and then went back on it.

Jill Rhodry
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't have a baby if you're not around to care for them - works both ways no?

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AnkleByter
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think either daughter should EXPECT free care, dog or human, but I think there is more to why the daughter with the dogs "flipped out". OP doesn't speak nearly as highly of this daughter as she does the one with a child. Something tells me that happens a lot, and the daughter with the dogs seems to take second place to her sister. Just look at the way mom described their lives, one she talks about more negatively than the other. It's clear daughter with the kid knew she'd be chosen. If I were the daughter with the dogs I'd be mad too, and not because "no more free dog care" but because it's one more instance where I am thought of as lesser than compared to my sister. Yes human child will, usually, trump the dogs, but if the way OP speaks about her kids is any indicator, it goes way deeper than that. She's the AH for the differences in the way she treats them/talks about them, NOT because she chose one over the other for care duty.

V
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or maybe the daughter with the dogs is always asking for favours, and the mother offered this for the other daughter because they never ask for anything. There's not enough back story to make assumptions like that.

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Erin E
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think OP needs to tell both her daughters to grow up. What would they do if you weren't available? You shouldn't be their own personal kennel or daycare.

Laugh or not
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why people are saying the daughter should not have dogs if she travel for work every week. She may have had the dogs way before she had the job. Was she supposed to abandon them ? As for chosing another job, you don't always have the luxury of choice. As for the other daughter and SIL, they made that rule knowing the impact it would have, and the mom made her choice. No sympathy from me.

V
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the other hand, the sister with the dogs got three years of free dog sitting, so it's only fair that the other sister gets a few years of babysitting. And it sounds like the dogs are a big boisterous, so may not be safe to be around a baby with only the grandmother there.

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ReadBannedBooks
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Rambunctious" dogs around an infant? Hard no. If they haven't been property trained or been around infants/children, that's a big risk. And I love dogs.

Helen Morgan
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a news story this weekend about two dogs that unalived an infant in the house. Who is going to visit grandma in 20 years, sonny or the dogs?

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Deborah B
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This smacks of sibling rivalry. I get not wanting rambunctious dogs around an infant, but is there seriously no way for the dogs to be at your home without being a risk? How about a reasonable compromise? Dogs stay in one part of the house, baby in another. Dogs in the yard/garage/basement, (with a set up funded by owner) when the baby is over. Baby not left alone with the dogs. Lots of options exist. Instead, you're pulling the rug out from under one daughter because the other has made up a "No pets" rule. You're choosing one of your daughter's over the other, and she's hurt. YTA for not seeing that this is a power play by the new mum.

Eva
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We don't even know if those dogs have ever been around kids. We had a cat before my kid was born. Cat would get jealous and swatted her a few times. Last time she tried, my husband tossed that cat and that was the last time it tried swatting at the kid. And my husband doesn't normally do that to pets, but child's safety was more important. We had dogs when I was a kid. They killed our baby chickens that my Mom had just gotten because they thought they were play toys. Dogs can be destructive little terrors. Can you blame the new parents? OP wanted to sit for the baby. The dogs are a bit much and she feels like spending time with the grandkid is more important (which it should be). Sister should have had foresight to see that OP was going to want to spend time with baby once it was announced. OP didn't know the other daughter's rule until she VOLUNTEERED to watch the grandkid. Husband could have also preferred. She's not a single parent. Can't be a power play if husband also said so.

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gilliansl aka Gillian Silverlight
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WHY can the child not be around animals is the question? My daughter made a big issue about my first grandchild being around animals, but I was not getting rid of either my dogs or cats while looking after my grandchild. There was no allergy involved, and the dogs sniffed the child but we're not interested in interaction, same with the cats. Sniff and walk away. Animals live in this world too, and unless there are severe allergies or exceptionally poor animal behavior, the two are not incompatible. The grandchild will encounter pet hair, dander, etc throughout their life. I also assume you wash hands between pets and child. Personally, I think a modest fee should be forthcoming from either daughter for child or pet care. If YOU fell ill, injured, etc... both daughters would have to pay someone for that care. By the time my daughter had 3 kids, I could not watch them due to a not yet treated back injury. She lived an hours drive away. My sister babysat, but was paid gas and fee.

V
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have a rule that our kid is not left alone with dogs for even a split second, if you go inside to go toilet or grab a drink of water you take our kid with you. Children under 7 should never be left alone with any dog.

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Couragetcd
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would usually say OP can do what she wants with her time, NTA. It seems, though, the plan to watch her grandchild is new and starting soon and came out of nowhere for the dog daughter. There were months to plan and organize day care, a nanny, sitter, or grandma watching the baby before it was time for new mom to go back to work. Most day cares and licensed sitters have waiting lists you need to get on before delivery. Either the new parents were somehow not told this by anyone, or this was always their plan: spring deep anxious need on new grandma to watch the baby full time and to heck if that makes grandma need to quit her job, quit watching dogs, or have any time to herself. Edited to add: New parents are TA

Sand Ers
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From where I’m sitting, new mom with the infant is TA. As someone else mentioned, they had 9 months to a year to work something out. Dropping a bomb at the last minute is at best making your poor foresight somebody else’s problem. More likely, it’s a deliberate manipulation.

Beachbum
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mom doesn’t want to watch rambunctious dogs anymore. Mom VOLUNTEERED to watch grandson so she could develop a relationship with him. She wants to bond with the human, watching the dogs was taking care of animals….understand the difference? People vs animals?

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Schmebulock
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. Unless the dogs are truly a danger to the child, she should be able to watch both. It's not fair that the daughter with the kid gets free babysitting and gets to demand potentially unreasonable conditions of such.

Maya K
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grandma doesn't want to watch both at the same time which is fair, but the no animals ever rule is excessive.

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Ms.GB
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the bright side the baby is only going to be a baby for a short time. Once that kid starts walking and talking I'm gonna guess he'll want to hang out with aunties dogs.

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sister with kids is being unreasonable to ask mom to quit her job and to stop watching the dogs. If you can't afford a kid, don't have one.

Beachbum
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one asked mom to do that, SHE VOLUNTEERED. She, gasp, WANTS to take care of the baby and bond with him.

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Libstak
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can the dogs stay outside for the duration of the baby sitting? Or as some have suggested, leave them at daughters home during the day and collect them to stay over night, then drop back in the morning g. Most pets do without supervision while their owners work during the day, this is not much different.

Papa
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe you didn't see it, but in one of the replies above she said she doesn't want to watch the dogs and baby at the same time

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Kare Deter
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If my kids came to me and said I want you to do me a favor.. provide child care for free, in your home, and then I will dictate the rules to you... GTFO. No. Especially not when your arbitrary rules impact another one of my children who I've already made a commitment to. You want free child care from me? Here are my rules...

MR
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lightly YTA. Clearly there's a rivalry that she's built up. But she did agree to watch the dogs and suddenly bailing with limited preparation to put her other daughter's needs above her sister's is just wrong. She'll have the baby there a few hours at a time. So crate the dogs for that time in an area of the house she won't have the baby in. When the baby leaves, she can let them out and hang out with them. If the dogs need to go out, put the baby in the crib for 10 - 15 minutes with a monitor and let the dogs out. No big deal. It's an odd request to keep animals away from the baby, but whatever. She can meet both hee kid's needs without too much trouble. The fact that she's not considering possible solutions is simply favoritism. While I get the baby comes before pet, that only really works if the request began at the same time. Once you've made a commitment to one, it's no longer baby vs pet it's daughter vs daughter.

Vega
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know a lot of people who have a no animal rule with their kids. Many animals don't have interactions with young children unless it's the ones they are living with. It's a bite risk. My aunt had a golden retriever back in the day and it was great with my cousins who lived with it, but it didn't like strangers kids. We found that out when I had to get stitches at 5. My aunt said I was just playing with a Thomas the Train set and the dog got up from his bed and lunged.

V
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even family dogs attack children. Dogs are animals, anything can set them off, that's why experts say to never leave a child under 7 with a dog without an adult present. And that means in the yard or room with the child and dog, not somewhere on the property.

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MidnightProphecy
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These people saying dogs aren't as important as a baby are not my kind of people. Get lost. Pets are babies to some people and deserve just as much love and respect. Oooh it's a human it's more important. NO. Both equally important and they shouldn't be just left without care and no thought because there's suddenly a baby.

Undercover
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Soooo, are you vegan? Disclaimer: I get it, you can get really attached to your pets (I still tear up when I think of my dwarf hamster who did soooo much for my mental health). But humans and animals are different. They are. I can speak to most human beings, we have the same needs, the same physical appearance. Animals not so much. To be specific: if you're not willing and able to care for an animal to the best of their needs, don't get one. You can fall pregnant easily by chance, but taking in an animal is always a choice. Animals and humans are not the same, but that's not stating they're not both valuable. In their own ways. But not equal

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Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah... Definitely YTA. Not for picking grandson over pet sitting. But for going all in with one half and turning her back on the daughter. Her dogs are JUST AS IMPORTANT as the child. Full stop.

Hope Cook
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having recently hearing a story about a dog killing a 6 week old baby, An otherwise normal dog having shown no prior aggression. and it was the dog that lived in the house before the baby was born and they simply had no clue. And these are not the "baby's" fur siblings. On the other hand, the other daughter's dogs "were there first?". So I can see her being upset. I think there is a workable solution that will require talking it out. Which definitely won't happen if there's the silent treatment. I suggest both daughters be adults and express their concerns and fears. They are grown a*s women And mom is not a built in baby sitter by any means. Any effort to watch anything is above and beyond "parental obligation". Both daughters need to grow the f up and figure it out and don't make mom the bad guy. She loves both daughters equally and I'm sorry, I do not feel pets trump humans by any means. What if mom did watch both but kennel the dogs while baby is there? Or keep the outside (with shade and water of course)

Eva
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is everyone missing the fact the OP is volunteering to watch her grandkid. Doesn't sound like she was that fond of the dogs as they're rambunctious.

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Patricia Sifuentes
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have 2dogs I watch my grandson since he was 4 months old so he grew up around them he's 3yrs old now he loves them and they love him back he helps me feed them take them outside to play sometimes they even take naps together best thing to do so he won't be afraid of any dog

Steve Hall
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good luck OP, you let your grown kids put you in the middle. I'll bet this isn't the first time, is it.

sandy enoch
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that when you have more than one child you have to discuss these things in advance. While daughter number two was pregnant the conversation Should have been had with the first daughter that you what to help take care of your new grandchild and that since you helped her with her two dogs for three years it seems fair to do so . Also it would give her notice to find another sitter . But it’s your time and it’s perfectly ok to decide to do one over the other .

ENSJ
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH, the daughters both rely too much on their mother (which will prevent her having her own things, as well as complicate stuff when the mom is too ill, or wants a vacation or anything else). On the other hand, it is ridiculous that the mom is hiding behind the daughter's no pets rule instead of just coming out and saying she doesn't want to watch both pets and kid at the same time (which makes sense and is a reasonable boundary). She's enabling conflict between her daughters and herself.

Gina Lombardo
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes you are and so is your daughter with the child. You have been watching the dogs for 3 years for your single daughter. Kenneling dogs that often is hard on the dogs and extremely expensive. And as a single woman she needs the support more than your married daughter with two incomes. At worlds worse you could keep the dogs gated in a separate room. Frankly I think it is a big ask to ask a mom to watch a kid full time. Watching dogs doesn't really affect your day to day life much. You either help them both or neither of them because you are going to alienate one of them. Personally they are both spoiled to expect free babysitting. But the one with the child is more selfish in my opinion.

Neb
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH here. Grandma is entitled to make her decision, but she should warn her dog owning daughter in advance. Dog owning daughter should not even have dogs if she is traveling every week - 2 cats would be better, even if not perfect, as pets still need attention. And daughter with grandson definitely could have agreed with some compromise.

Sarah Matsoukis
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you decide to have pets or kids you always have to plan like you're dong it with no outside help, or have to pay a sitter. Everything else is a luxury.

Jessica Bertram
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's wild to me that ANYONE thinks this woman owes either daughter her time. She should be free to spend her time how she wants. For three years she had day-dogs. Now she wants day-baby. The dog owning daughter is owed nothing, and even if new mom's no-pets-rule WAS aimed at her sister, that's betwen the sisters to navigate.

Papa
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got the impression OP wants to watch the baby. I don't know why so many people are jumping to the conclusion that she's being taken advantage of.

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David Earley
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can understand the parents not wanting dogs around their infant. Dogs can and have done damage and killed babies and its not just a specific type of dog. Perhaps ypu could have found avway to compromise by keeping them in a specific area but not knowing specifics of her house, hard to say. Also maybe neither sister is happy with that. In the end if no compromise possible to suit both kids, easy and right decision is to watch ypur grandkid. You never know, that may be the only one you get. You watched your one daughters dogs for three years. Doing something like that shouldnt be a lifetime commitment. She should already have found suitable arraingements.

Eva
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, we don't even know how the dogs are around kids. They may be great around adults but hate kids.

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Kit Black
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"the dogs are a bit rambunctious" Let's be for real - the rule "No animals around the baby" is specifically ABOUT the dogs. And that's perfectly reasonable. 2 rambunctious dogs are NOT the best playmates for a 3 month old. The Grandmother *wants* to take care of the baby, and the notion that someone giving you a free service ~owes it to you~ to continue indefinitely is selfish, entitled, and delusional. If sister wants to walk away from her family because her mother is prioritizing a grandchild over a pair of dogs that the sister isn't around 1/2 the time, it's very much her loss. And If the entitled sister genuinely thinks she is owed puppy care, then by her own perspective, mom owes the other sister three years of free day care for the kid...

Nikki Angulo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a dog, she is crate trained, when I visit my mom, and have to go out, she will let the dog out of the crate and put her outside, and have the dog upstairs, but if someone is over that isn’t used to dogs, the dog goes back in the crate or outside. When I work (I go home at lunch to let her out) and at night she’s in the crate, so she’s used to it, and it’s big enough for her to have lots of room to stretch out. Having the dogs in a crate or separate room or outside during the day, and letting the dogs out at nap time is a compromise. It does sound like there’s some rivalry going on. If the dogs were aggressive, then it would be a concern, but they are probably just high energy, like my dog. I wouldn’t have her around a young child either, because she is to excitable. So she would be in her crate until the child was in bed or gone for the day.

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zovjraar me
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's the lady's choice who she wants to watch FOR FREE. chiddrens aren't entitled to either.

Jennifer Checki
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First time parents are often overly alert to potential dangers. I don’t know these dogs, so they may or may not be dangerous to the baby, but either way, I sympathize with a new mother’s worry. By the second kid, she won’t care if you have a pack of wolves in the house. 😀 But I don’t think this is indicative of any deeper issues, like sibling dissent.

YaYa
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter-in-law had same rule when babysitting my granddaughter. For some reason she didn’t want the dog I dog sat for my daughter around my granddaughter even though he’d been raised in a house with a baby (my daughter’s roommate has a toddler as well). I don’t know why this rule was issued it seemed senseless especially since my son & daughter-in-law had a pit bull at home. I wound up keeping the dog outside when weather permitted or in a crate when it didn’t. In all honesty I suspect it was just an excuse my daughter-in-law has imposed other rules that contradict what my grandchild is exposed to at home. I am not allowed to give candy though she eats plenty at home. People can be really picky and over protective with a first child. I felt as others pointed out that my daughter traveled too much to have a dog but I didn’t stop keeping the dog just separated the dog & baby. Had I been forced to choose I suspect I would’ve chosen my grandbaby though.

Be a better human
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both your daughters are TAH. One daughter chooses to adopt buy dogs knowing that she has the job she has. 2) other daughter chooses to open her legs to have children and wants someone else to watch her kid.....it doesn't matter dog, cat, fish, or human. You chose to have pets or little humans in your life and they are your responsibility for the rest of their life in pets case untill they die. PEOPLE USE YOUR BRAIN think before you say I want kids or let's adopt a pet... STUPID....

Undercover
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Owning pets is 100% a choice, giving birth in the US not so much as far as I know....

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Trent Wisler
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only thing OP should do is give the daughter notice to arrange other care for the dogs. I don’t know if the work schedule or the dogs came first, but if you travel so much, don’t get a dog. Regardless, why not ask the boyfriend, or another friend to watch them.

Eva
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get the YTA people. She wanted quality time with her grandson. Nothing wrong with that. Kids have priority over pets. People are comparing apples and oranges when it comes to kids and pets. OP made a decision AND offered a work around for her dogs. The only issue here is having the conversation last minute and not enough notice for new arrangements. However, even without the baby, why didn't the sister with the dogs figure out a backup solution in case Mom wasn't available. She should have been adult enough to realize that a baby was going to change things.

Andrea Johnson
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grandma admitted she doesn't want to watch both the dog and the grandson at the same time.

Stacy Jones
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say there are NAH. The first daughter is correct that the dogs should not be around the baby. The second daughter is correct that it will be a hardship to find trustworthy pet-sitting now. And Gramma is correct that she can choose how to spend her own time and that it's important to be in her grandson's life. Everyone should just take a beat, try to look at each other's perspective, and remember that they're family, they love each other, and this entire conflict has arisen out of Gramma's desire to help her daughters.

Kalikima
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since she stated in the comments that she doesn't want to watch the dogs and her grandson at the same time, she should have told her daughter this, instead of putting the decision on the conditions laid out by her other daughter. Now the dog daughter is mad at her sister, instead of just the mom.

Claudia
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The child will need constant, daily care until he's old enough to go to school, the dogs are occasional, and for just 2-3 days. The most cost effective decision is to help your daughter with your grandson. Besides, you offered to visit, she can hire a pet walker, leave them food and water, dogs should be okay left alone for those few occasions, your grandson on the other hand, cannot be left alone.

Sea Squirrel
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Time to tell this daughter who decides when someone offers voluntary help.

Becca not Becky
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. It sounds like OP had been planning to watch the grand baby well before this came up. As for the dogs, other daughter got 3 years of free dog-sitting and from what I understand, a kennel is much cheaper than human daycare. Did she have a backup option for dog-sitting in case OP was ever sick or unavailable? I would think so after 3 years. Even seemingly well-behaved animals don't always take well to a child, and OP said the dogs are a little rambunctious, which could translate to a lot of things. OP said she didn't want to watch the dogs so much anyway, which is her choice, and yet she still offered to check on them in the evenings. I think there is still room for compromise, but honestly, how OP wants to spend her time and effort is her decision.

Robert Phillips
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it was a reasonable rule about animals, even though they seem to be ok you never know how they will react to babies - they can even become agressive. deciding to spend time with a grandchild over a pet is a choice any grandparent has a right to make for themselves.

Ruth Watry
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Daughter # 1 got 3 free years of care for her dogs. It is now daughter #2 turn to get 3 years of free care for her child. Daughter #1 does not own mom.

Sarah Ellison
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry to all the pet owners out there, but as a person who has had pets that I love dearly, a child/grandchild is not on the same level as a pet. The grandmother wants to watch her grandson, and the other daughter had a condition for that. Maybe there's some sibling BS happening behind the scenes too, but the point is mum said no pets. And I can understand why! Grandma doesn't say how big the dogs are, but even a little dog can unintentionally hurt a 3 month old baby. When I'm out with my son, if there are dogs around I'm more watchful. If these dogs have never been around a baby before, you can't know what it will do. I have a neighbour whose dog suddenly attacked their daughter and she unfortunately died. They'd had the dog longer than their daughter, so he was around her from birth, but then he just suddenly grabbed her by the neck and killed her. You CANNOT know how an animal is going to behave.

Katalin Gendreau
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have two grand canines and two human grandchildren. I personally would not abandon the cabine for the human. but my human are 13 years and 8 years old. Canine are 5 yrs and 3 yrs. That said. My canine are treated like human, and very well behaved. Maybe the canine in posters case are not. Possibly another reason why she doesn't really want to do both. I also agree with comments as to why have the dogs if you're gone so much traveling. Mentioning on again off again boyfriend situation is for context as to why she doesn't have another reliable option than op. Doggy daycare is much cheaper than human daycare. I'm with the op NTA.

Gina Lombardo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My two small dogs at a kennel would cost me a min of 70 per day. That seems higher than daycare to me. Large dogs in my area are about 65 each per day.

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Ice Sticker
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if you are travelling 50% of the week constantly.maybe don't get dogs. Dogs are a time commitment and it sounds like the one daughter is an irresponsible dog owner.

Gina Lombardo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really, or maybe her situation changed. Maybe the daughter with two incomes needs to tone down her expenses and either stay home or pay for daycare. Personally I stayed home with my child and dogs and we lived a very simple life on one salary.

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Sherri Chatman
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Animal vs Human...Human takes the #1 spot everytime. Mom watched the mutt for FREE for years, daughter needs to stop bitchin and get a doggie day care spot.

AR
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Daughter with the dogs got 3 years of free dog sitting when she chose a job with lots of travel. She can find dog sitters now that her mom has decided to do something else. Her mom doesn’t owe her any dog sitting at all.

Guy-Incognito
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ooft. Nta def. Baby comes first if it comes to it but mum of baby is showing extreme irrationality with no animals anywhere. She needs to talk to someone before her paranoia consumes her, her marriage, family and that kids up bringing. Seen it, not fun.

Michael Largey
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, this will affect one daughter financially. Taking responsibility for your own decisions, possessions, and life usually does. In fact, it's supposed to. It's called becoming an adult.

Spencer's slave no longer
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nobody has asked if there's a valid reason for not having the dogs around the baby? Have the dogs been socialised with children? The dogs are described as rambunctious which suggests poor or no training, boredom and attention seeking. All of these could cause a potentially dangerous "rivalry". There have been multiple cases of family dogs attacking, sometimes even killing, babies and small children recently. The parents have every right to set boundaries and I suspect that there have been issues with the dogs previously to warrant the concerns.

Janet Howe
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

IMO, if you have children or dogs, if you can't afford them, don't have them. I think it's more important for grandma to sit the child as opposed to the dogs. There is such a thing as doggie daycare, and it might be less expensive than daycare for a baby. Let the daughters fight it out.

Shoshana Sherrington
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The commenter who said the grandchild was a shiny new toy and yta . . . Woooooowwww. People over animals. Also needs with children change over time and this time is precious for the grandparents before the kid (who knows if there will be more) starts daycare. The dogs are the same level of commitment until they die and daughter one can figure it out for a few years. Don't have pets if you need to travel so much everyone would judge you as a parent if you did that

Hi, it's me
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. How did we reach a point where animals are prioritized over people? At great expense and time, I rescue dogs with severe health issues and would still never choose an animal over a human, especially my own grandchild. These are the same people who will go to therapy later saying their parents or family never gave them the attention they needed. They are dogs, not children. She got 3 years of free dog care which she should be grateful for. She should understand that her mother would not like to have time with her grandbaby. 3 days a week the grandmother can go see the dogs at night and play a bit, and she can get a doggy door for them during the day. Having a relationship with dogs or with a grandchild? Are you kidding me?

Undercover
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just common sense, but the baby will be out of the woods in 3 years and become more and more independant. The dogs, not so much... In the end you have to keep in mind that grandma provides a FREE service, so it's totally up to her how she spends her time. NTA

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Beachbum
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Child over Dogs 100% of the time. Baby’s mom may change her mind over time but sounds like sister’s rambunctious dogs need training . Sister also made a bad choice having 2 big dogs when she travels a lot. Really not fair to the dogs or mom. Easy compromise is sister gets someone to check in on the dogs during the day, mom does it in the evenings IF she wants to. Curious why YTA people don’t think mom has the “right” to stop watching animals so she can watch and develop a relationship with a real, live human. Dogs are awesome but still are animals and should always come second to people.

Bernie j. Janinsky
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA: You have been stretching yourself thin for both. Human baby the greater need (even the sweetest dog can 'switch gears'.) Unmarried daughter needs to rethink her commitment to those two dogs. Either cultivate a crazy overage 'Tom Boy' who's nuts about 'pet sitting' for days on end for free, or find those poor dogs a good home where they'll get the attention & care they deserve.

Bahama Mama
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same can be said about the mom with the baby. Don't have kids until you have time to give it the attention and care it deserves.

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Franz Buhlmann
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This sounds like a really sick joke! Your daughter with the two dogs has so many other choices available to her. She sounds like a very spoiled ungrateful little child to place greater value on a couple of domestcated beasts over a human infant! She needs some serious mental health help. She is placing a stupid job over her two precious dogs. If her job is so important, she must not truly value or love her dogs. She could very simply get herself a job that doesn't require her to be away from her dogs! If she really loved her dogs that much, they would be worth the sacrifice! I bet that she abandons her dogs daily for her job even when she is local and doesn't travel! Aside from the obvious options of a dog sitter or kennel to provide the care that she refuses to provide while working, she could aways gift these dogs to someone who will value them enough to provide personal 24/7 care which she refuses to. She could even drop them off at the pound, which is free.

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I don't think there's an issue with dogs being alone for 3 whole days when they've got someone to feed them etc. in fact it's pretty normal to leave your pets alone for a week or whatever while you're on vacation as long as someone stops by to feed them and spend a bit of time each day. It's also two dogs so they won't be bored and there's presumably a yard for them as well. I think this is a complete non-issue

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Make no mistake. Grandkids always come first before Pets! Period! According to the daughter she's placing more value on her Pet than her Child! What world is she living in? This speaks volumes about this Mother & her priorities. There's no such thing as a "Grandpet" because it is a fantasy in her twisted mind! The daughter is manipulating her Mother with the ""Silent Treatment", which is infantile. I guess this daughter is an adult version of a "brat";. let her have this "Silent" tantrum, while the Mother remains steadfast & determined to choose whatever she wants!

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Jill Rhodry
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I reckon there's a high chance that this some kind of sibling rivalry.

Pittsburgh rare
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It smells like that. The way one sister made a very specific rule that obvs affected the other and how the dog owner flipped.

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Paula Wynn
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get it. When daughter is in town, aren't the dogs alone in her house while she's at work? Aren't they okay by themselves then? So what is different when she's out of town? Grandma can watch the baby during the day, then the dogs at night. She can let them out to do their business and exercise, then feed them. She can either stay there or go back home until the next evening. Sorry, but one daughter's had 3 years of free dog care. It's the other daughter's turn now. In the long run, it's GRANDMA'S life! If she wants to cuddle with her first grandchild now, it's HER DECISION!!!

MR
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem isn't giving up free help for one to give to the other. It's putting the needs of one daughter over the needs of the other. From the outside, it feels like just free help. From the inside it's playing favorites with her daughters' needs.

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G A
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both daughters are thoughtless to offload their care problems on their mother.

Hi, it's me
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, this woman offered to watch her grandchild. She WANTS to watch the baby.

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Marsha Workman
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't like the part ...these are the rules they gave me in order to let me watch my grandson. I think that is overstepping. I have watched all my grandchildren in my home for the last 14 years. I have never been given any rules. At that point I would say take him to daycare. I also have a dog. The kids love her.

Kare Deter
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Absolutely overstepping. If my kids came to me and said I want you to do me a favor.. provide child care for free, in your home, and then I will dictate the rules to you... GTFO. No. Especially not when your arbitrary rules impact another one of my children who I've already made a commitment to. You want free child care from me? Here are my rules...

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Paul C
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTA people are just crazy. How someone chooses to spend their time is their business. Nobody has the right to expect them to do anything for them (school age children and maybe partner excepted). That covers both her daughters, not just the one with the dogs. But who the hell equivalences looking after dogs with looking after a grandchild???? No sane person would think of the dogs first for a heartbeat.

Helena
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It isn't dog vs baby, its daughter vs daughter. Doggy day care is wicked expensive, just like childcare. I agree with the one that said you had 9 months to discuss this and work something out. The only reason the sis with a kid didn't, sibling rivalry. She wanted to stick it to her sister. After watching my large family of aunts and uncles pull this c**p, becomes super easy to spot.

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Kieran N
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the AH is the sister who knew damn well what she was doing when she made the "no animals" rule. I was a baby with two dogs and a cat in the house and I obviously lived to tell the tale. Would it be difficult to section off part of the living room for the safety of the baby/comfort of his parents while also continuing to watch the dogs? Also I agree theres definitely some sibling rivalry here.

V
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in a city with 5 hospitals, just one of them had over 100 children admitted with dog bites last year. Then there's 4 other hospitals they may have been admitted to. You have a case of survivor bias.

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just me
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This reminds me of one of those "you have flowers, a goat, and a wolf, and need to cross a river" problems. How about Grandma brings the dogs to Mom's house where they chill in a crate for the day and picks up baby. Then drop baby off at the end of the day, grab the dogs for the remainder of the day/night. Dogs and baby are never in the same place, everyone is happy. Fr, though, don't get pets if you won't be around to take care of them. It also isn't cool if Grandma told sister she'd help take care of the dogs when sister got them (as one of the comments makes it sound) and then went back on it.

Jill Rhodry
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't have a baby if you're not around to care for them - works both ways no?

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AnkleByter
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think either daughter should EXPECT free care, dog or human, but I think there is more to why the daughter with the dogs "flipped out". OP doesn't speak nearly as highly of this daughter as she does the one with a child. Something tells me that happens a lot, and the daughter with the dogs seems to take second place to her sister. Just look at the way mom described their lives, one she talks about more negatively than the other. It's clear daughter with the kid knew she'd be chosen. If I were the daughter with the dogs I'd be mad too, and not because "no more free dog care" but because it's one more instance where I am thought of as lesser than compared to my sister. Yes human child will, usually, trump the dogs, but if the way OP speaks about her kids is any indicator, it goes way deeper than that. She's the AH for the differences in the way she treats them/talks about them, NOT because she chose one over the other for care duty.

V
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or maybe the daughter with the dogs is always asking for favours, and the mother offered this for the other daughter because they never ask for anything. There's not enough back story to make assumptions like that.

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Erin E
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think OP needs to tell both her daughters to grow up. What would they do if you weren't available? You shouldn't be their own personal kennel or daycare.

Laugh or not
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why people are saying the daughter should not have dogs if she travel for work every week. She may have had the dogs way before she had the job. Was she supposed to abandon them ? As for chosing another job, you don't always have the luxury of choice. As for the other daughter and SIL, they made that rule knowing the impact it would have, and the mom made her choice. No sympathy from me.

V
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the other hand, the sister with the dogs got three years of free dog sitting, so it's only fair that the other sister gets a few years of babysitting. And it sounds like the dogs are a big boisterous, so may not be safe to be around a baby with only the grandmother there.

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ReadBannedBooks
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Rambunctious" dogs around an infant? Hard no. If they haven't been property trained or been around infants/children, that's a big risk. And I love dogs.

Helen Morgan
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a news story this weekend about two dogs that unalived an infant in the house. Who is going to visit grandma in 20 years, sonny or the dogs?

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Deborah B
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This smacks of sibling rivalry. I get not wanting rambunctious dogs around an infant, but is there seriously no way for the dogs to be at your home without being a risk? How about a reasonable compromise? Dogs stay in one part of the house, baby in another. Dogs in the yard/garage/basement, (with a set up funded by owner) when the baby is over. Baby not left alone with the dogs. Lots of options exist. Instead, you're pulling the rug out from under one daughter because the other has made up a "No pets" rule. You're choosing one of your daughter's over the other, and she's hurt. YTA for not seeing that this is a power play by the new mum.

Eva
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We don't even know if those dogs have ever been around kids. We had a cat before my kid was born. Cat would get jealous and swatted her a few times. Last time she tried, my husband tossed that cat and that was the last time it tried swatting at the kid. And my husband doesn't normally do that to pets, but child's safety was more important. We had dogs when I was a kid. They killed our baby chickens that my Mom had just gotten because they thought they were play toys. Dogs can be destructive little terrors. Can you blame the new parents? OP wanted to sit for the baby. The dogs are a bit much and she feels like spending time with the grandkid is more important (which it should be). Sister should have had foresight to see that OP was going to want to spend time with baby once it was announced. OP didn't know the other daughter's rule until she VOLUNTEERED to watch the grandkid. Husband could have also preferred. She's not a single parent. Can't be a power play if husband also said so.

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gilliansl aka Gillian Silverlight
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WHY can the child not be around animals is the question? My daughter made a big issue about my first grandchild being around animals, but I was not getting rid of either my dogs or cats while looking after my grandchild. There was no allergy involved, and the dogs sniffed the child but we're not interested in interaction, same with the cats. Sniff and walk away. Animals live in this world too, and unless there are severe allergies or exceptionally poor animal behavior, the two are not incompatible. The grandchild will encounter pet hair, dander, etc throughout their life. I also assume you wash hands between pets and child. Personally, I think a modest fee should be forthcoming from either daughter for child or pet care. If YOU fell ill, injured, etc... both daughters would have to pay someone for that care. By the time my daughter had 3 kids, I could not watch them due to a not yet treated back injury. She lived an hours drive away. My sister babysat, but was paid gas and fee.

V
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have a rule that our kid is not left alone with dogs for even a split second, if you go inside to go toilet or grab a drink of water you take our kid with you. Children under 7 should never be left alone with any dog.

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Couragetcd
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would usually say OP can do what she wants with her time, NTA. It seems, though, the plan to watch her grandchild is new and starting soon and came out of nowhere for the dog daughter. There were months to plan and organize day care, a nanny, sitter, or grandma watching the baby before it was time for new mom to go back to work. Most day cares and licensed sitters have waiting lists you need to get on before delivery. Either the new parents were somehow not told this by anyone, or this was always their plan: spring deep anxious need on new grandma to watch the baby full time and to heck if that makes grandma need to quit her job, quit watching dogs, or have any time to herself. Edited to add: New parents are TA

Sand Ers
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From where I’m sitting, new mom with the infant is TA. As someone else mentioned, they had 9 months to a year to work something out. Dropping a bomb at the last minute is at best making your poor foresight somebody else’s problem. More likely, it’s a deliberate manipulation.

Beachbum
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mom doesn’t want to watch rambunctious dogs anymore. Mom VOLUNTEERED to watch grandson so she could develop a relationship with him. She wants to bond with the human, watching the dogs was taking care of animals….understand the difference? People vs animals?

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Schmebulock
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. Unless the dogs are truly a danger to the child, she should be able to watch both. It's not fair that the daughter with the kid gets free babysitting and gets to demand potentially unreasonable conditions of such.

Maya K
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grandma doesn't want to watch both at the same time which is fair, but the no animals ever rule is excessive.

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Ms.GB
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the bright side the baby is only going to be a baby for a short time. Once that kid starts walking and talking I'm gonna guess he'll want to hang out with aunties dogs.

FreeTheUnicorn
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sister with kids is being unreasonable to ask mom to quit her job and to stop watching the dogs. If you can't afford a kid, don't have one.

Beachbum
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one asked mom to do that, SHE VOLUNTEERED. She, gasp, WANTS to take care of the baby and bond with him.

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Libstak
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can the dogs stay outside for the duration of the baby sitting? Or as some have suggested, leave them at daughters home during the day and collect them to stay over night, then drop back in the morning g. Most pets do without supervision while their owners work during the day, this is not much different.

Papa
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe you didn't see it, but in one of the replies above she said she doesn't want to watch the dogs and baby at the same time

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Kare Deter
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If my kids came to me and said I want you to do me a favor.. provide child care for free, in your home, and then I will dictate the rules to you... GTFO. No. Especially not when your arbitrary rules impact another one of my children who I've already made a commitment to. You want free child care from me? Here are my rules...

MR
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lightly YTA. Clearly there's a rivalry that she's built up. But she did agree to watch the dogs and suddenly bailing with limited preparation to put her other daughter's needs above her sister's is just wrong. She'll have the baby there a few hours at a time. So crate the dogs for that time in an area of the house she won't have the baby in. When the baby leaves, she can let them out and hang out with them. If the dogs need to go out, put the baby in the crib for 10 - 15 minutes with a monitor and let the dogs out. No big deal. It's an odd request to keep animals away from the baby, but whatever. She can meet both hee kid's needs without too much trouble. The fact that she's not considering possible solutions is simply favoritism. While I get the baby comes before pet, that only really works if the request began at the same time. Once you've made a commitment to one, it's no longer baby vs pet it's daughter vs daughter.

Vega
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know a lot of people who have a no animal rule with their kids. Many animals don't have interactions with young children unless it's the ones they are living with. It's a bite risk. My aunt had a golden retriever back in the day and it was great with my cousins who lived with it, but it didn't like strangers kids. We found that out when I had to get stitches at 5. My aunt said I was just playing with a Thomas the Train set and the dog got up from his bed and lunged.

V
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even family dogs attack children. Dogs are animals, anything can set them off, that's why experts say to never leave a child under 7 with a dog without an adult present. And that means in the yard or room with the child and dog, not somewhere on the property.

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MidnightProphecy
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These people saying dogs aren't as important as a baby are not my kind of people. Get lost. Pets are babies to some people and deserve just as much love and respect. Oooh it's a human it's more important. NO. Both equally important and they shouldn't be just left without care and no thought because there's suddenly a baby.

Undercover
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Soooo, are you vegan? Disclaimer: I get it, you can get really attached to your pets (I still tear up when I think of my dwarf hamster who did soooo much for my mental health). But humans and animals are different. They are. I can speak to most human beings, we have the same needs, the same physical appearance. Animals not so much. To be specific: if you're not willing and able to care for an animal to the best of their needs, don't get one. You can fall pregnant easily by chance, but taking in an animal is always a choice. Animals and humans are not the same, but that's not stating they're not both valuable. In their own ways. But not equal

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Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah... Definitely YTA. Not for picking grandson over pet sitting. But for going all in with one half and turning her back on the daughter. Her dogs are JUST AS IMPORTANT as the child. Full stop.

Hope Cook
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having recently hearing a story about a dog killing a 6 week old baby, An otherwise normal dog having shown no prior aggression. and it was the dog that lived in the house before the baby was born and they simply had no clue. And these are not the "baby's" fur siblings. On the other hand, the other daughter's dogs "were there first?". So I can see her being upset. I think there is a workable solution that will require talking it out. Which definitely won't happen if there's the silent treatment. I suggest both daughters be adults and express their concerns and fears. They are grown a*s women And mom is not a built in baby sitter by any means. Any effort to watch anything is above and beyond "parental obligation". Both daughters need to grow the f up and figure it out and don't make mom the bad guy. She loves both daughters equally and I'm sorry, I do not feel pets trump humans by any means. What if mom did watch both but kennel the dogs while baby is there? Or keep the outside (with shade and water of course)

Eva
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is everyone missing the fact the OP is volunteering to watch her grandkid. Doesn't sound like she was that fond of the dogs as they're rambunctious.

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Patricia Sifuentes
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have 2dogs I watch my grandson since he was 4 months old so he grew up around them he's 3yrs old now he loves them and they love him back he helps me feed them take them outside to play sometimes they even take naps together best thing to do so he won't be afraid of any dog

Steve Hall
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good luck OP, you let your grown kids put you in the middle. I'll bet this isn't the first time, is it.

sandy enoch
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that when you have more than one child you have to discuss these things in advance. While daughter number two was pregnant the conversation Should have been had with the first daughter that you what to help take care of your new grandchild and that since you helped her with her two dogs for three years it seems fair to do so . Also it would give her notice to find another sitter . But it’s your time and it’s perfectly ok to decide to do one over the other .

ENSJ
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH, the daughters both rely too much on their mother (which will prevent her having her own things, as well as complicate stuff when the mom is too ill, or wants a vacation or anything else). On the other hand, it is ridiculous that the mom is hiding behind the daughter's no pets rule instead of just coming out and saying she doesn't want to watch both pets and kid at the same time (which makes sense and is a reasonable boundary). She's enabling conflict between her daughters and herself.

Gina Lombardo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes you are and so is your daughter with the child. You have been watching the dogs for 3 years for your single daughter. Kenneling dogs that often is hard on the dogs and extremely expensive. And as a single woman she needs the support more than your married daughter with two incomes. At worlds worse you could keep the dogs gated in a separate room. Frankly I think it is a big ask to ask a mom to watch a kid full time. Watching dogs doesn't really affect your day to day life much. You either help them both or neither of them because you are going to alienate one of them. Personally they are both spoiled to expect free babysitting. But the one with the child is more selfish in my opinion.

Neb
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH here. Grandma is entitled to make her decision, but she should warn her dog owning daughter in advance. Dog owning daughter should not even have dogs if she is traveling every week - 2 cats would be better, even if not perfect, as pets still need attention. And daughter with grandson definitely could have agreed with some compromise.

Sarah Matsoukis
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you decide to have pets or kids you always have to plan like you're dong it with no outside help, or have to pay a sitter. Everything else is a luxury.

Jessica Bertram
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's wild to me that ANYONE thinks this woman owes either daughter her time. She should be free to spend her time how she wants. For three years she had day-dogs. Now she wants day-baby. The dog owning daughter is owed nothing, and even if new mom's no-pets-rule WAS aimed at her sister, that's betwen the sisters to navigate.

Papa
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got the impression OP wants to watch the baby. I don't know why so many people are jumping to the conclusion that she's being taken advantage of.

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David Earley
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can understand the parents not wanting dogs around their infant. Dogs can and have done damage and killed babies and its not just a specific type of dog. Perhaps ypu could have found avway to compromise by keeping them in a specific area but not knowing specifics of her house, hard to say. Also maybe neither sister is happy with that. In the end if no compromise possible to suit both kids, easy and right decision is to watch ypur grandkid. You never know, that may be the only one you get. You watched your one daughters dogs for three years. Doing something like that shouldnt be a lifetime commitment. She should already have found suitable arraingements.

Eva
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, we don't even know how the dogs are around kids. They may be great around adults but hate kids.

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Kit Black
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"the dogs are a bit rambunctious" Let's be for real - the rule "No animals around the baby" is specifically ABOUT the dogs. And that's perfectly reasonable. 2 rambunctious dogs are NOT the best playmates for a 3 month old. The Grandmother *wants* to take care of the baby, and the notion that someone giving you a free service ~owes it to you~ to continue indefinitely is selfish, entitled, and delusional. If sister wants to walk away from her family because her mother is prioritizing a grandchild over a pair of dogs that the sister isn't around 1/2 the time, it's very much her loss. And If the entitled sister genuinely thinks she is owed puppy care, then by her own perspective, mom owes the other sister three years of free day care for the kid...

Nikki Angulo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a dog, she is crate trained, when I visit my mom, and have to go out, she will let the dog out of the crate and put her outside, and have the dog upstairs, but if someone is over that isn’t used to dogs, the dog goes back in the crate or outside. When I work (I go home at lunch to let her out) and at night she’s in the crate, so she’s used to it, and it’s big enough for her to have lots of room to stretch out. Having the dogs in a crate or separate room or outside during the day, and letting the dogs out at nap time is a compromise. It does sound like there’s some rivalry going on. If the dogs were aggressive, then it would be a concern, but they are probably just high energy, like my dog. I wouldn’t have her around a young child either, because she is to excitable. So she would be in her crate until the child was in bed or gone for the day.

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zovjraar me
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's the lady's choice who she wants to watch FOR FREE. chiddrens aren't entitled to either.

Jennifer Checki
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First time parents are often overly alert to potential dangers. I don’t know these dogs, so they may or may not be dangerous to the baby, but either way, I sympathize with a new mother’s worry. By the second kid, she won’t care if you have a pack of wolves in the house. 😀 But I don’t think this is indicative of any deeper issues, like sibling dissent.

YaYa
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter-in-law had same rule when babysitting my granddaughter. For some reason she didn’t want the dog I dog sat for my daughter around my granddaughter even though he’d been raised in a house with a baby (my daughter’s roommate has a toddler as well). I don’t know why this rule was issued it seemed senseless especially since my son & daughter-in-law had a pit bull at home. I wound up keeping the dog outside when weather permitted or in a crate when it didn’t. In all honesty I suspect it was just an excuse my daughter-in-law has imposed other rules that contradict what my grandchild is exposed to at home. I am not allowed to give candy though she eats plenty at home. People can be really picky and over protective with a first child. I felt as others pointed out that my daughter traveled too much to have a dog but I didn’t stop keeping the dog just separated the dog & baby. Had I been forced to choose I suspect I would’ve chosen my grandbaby though.

Be a better human
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both your daughters are TAH. One daughter chooses to adopt buy dogs knowing that she has the job she has. 2) other daughter chooses to open her legs to have children and wants someone else to watch her kid.....it doesn't matter dog, cat, fish, or human. You chose to have pets or little humans in your life and they are your responsibility for the rest of their life in pets case untill they die. PEOPLE USE YOUR BRAIN think before you say I want kids or let's adopt a pet... STUPID....

Undercover
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Owning pets is 100% a choice, giving birth in the US not so much as far as I know....

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Trent Wisler
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only thing OP should do is give the daughter notice to arrange other care for the dogs. I don’t know if the work schedule or the dogs came first, but if you travel so much, don’t get a dog. Regardless, why not ask the boyfriend, or another friend to watch them.

Eva
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get the YTA people. She wanted quality time with her grandson. Nothing wrong with that. Kids have priority over pets. People are comparing apples and oranges when it comes to kids and pets. OP made a decision AND offered a work around for her dogs. The only issue here is having the conversation last minute and not enough notice for new arrangements. However, even without the baby, why didn't the sister with the dogs figure out a backup solution in case Mom wasn't available. She should have been adult enough to realize that a baby was going to change things.

Andrea Johnson
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grandma admitted she doesn't want to watch both the dog and the grandson at the same time.

Stacy Jones
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say there are NAH. The first daughter is correct that the dogs should not be around the baby. The second daughter is correct that it will be a hardship to find trustworthy pet-sitting now. And Gramma is correct that she can choose how to spend her own time and that it's important to be in her grandson's life. Everyone should just take a beat, try to look at each other's perspective, and remember that they're family, they love each other, and this entire conflict has arisen out of Gramma's desire to help her daughters.

Kalikima
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since she stated in the comments that she doesn't want to watch the dogs and her grandson at the same time, she should have told her daughter this, instead of putting the decision on the conditions laid out by her other daughter. Now the dog daughter is mad at her sister, instead of just the mom.

Claudia
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The child will need constant, daily care until he's old enough to go to school, the dogs are occasional, and for just 2-3 days. The most cost effective decision is to help your daughter with your grandson. Besides, you offered to visit, she can hire a pet walker, leave them food and water, dogs should be okay left alone for those few occasions, your grandson on the other hand, cannot be left alone.

Sea Squirrel
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Time to tell this daughter who decides when someone offers voluntary help.

Becca not Becky
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. It sounds like OP had been planning to watch the grand baby well before this came up. As for the dogs, other daughter got 3 years of free dog-sitting and from what I understand, a kennel is much cheaper than human daycare. Did she have a backup option for dog-sitting in case OP was ever sick or unavailable? I would think so after 3 years. Even seemingly well-behaved animals don't always take well to a child, and OP said the dogs are a little rambunctious, which could translate to a lot of things. OP said she didn't want to watch the dogs so much anyway, which is her choice, and yet she still offered to check on them in the evenings. I think there is still room for compromise, but honestly, how OP wants to spend her time and effort is her decision.

Robert Phillips
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it was a reasonable rule about animals, even though they seem to be ok you never know how they will react to babies - they can even become agressive. deciding to spend time with a grandchild over a pet is a choice any grandparent has a right to make for themselves.

Ruth Watry
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Daughter # 1 got 3 free years of care for her dogs. It is now daughter #2 turn to get 3 years of free care for her child. Daughter #1 does not own mom.

Sarah Ellison
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry to all the pet owners out there, but as a person who has had pets that I love dearly, a child/grandchild is not on the same level as a pet. The grandmother wants to watch her grandson, and the other daughter had a condition for that. Maybe there's some sibling BS happening behind the scenes too, but the point is mum said no pets. And I can understand why! Grandma doesn't say how big the dogs are, but even a little dog can unintentionally hurt a 3 month old baby. When I'm out with my son, if there are dogs around I'm more watchful. If these dogs have never been around a baby before, you can't know what it will do. I have a neighbour whose dog suddenly attacked their daughter and she unfortunately died. They'd had the dog longer than their daughter, so he was around her from birth, but then he just suddenly grabbed her by the neck and killed her. You CANNOT know how an animal is going to behave.

Katalin Gendreau
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have two grand canines and two human grandchildren. I personally would not abandon the cabine for the human. but my human are 13 years and 8 years old. Canine are 5 yrs and 3 yrs. That said. My canine are treated like human, and very well behaved. Maybe the canine in posters case are not. Possibly another reason why she doesn't really want to do both. I also agree with comments as to why have the dogs if you're gone so much traveling. Mentioning on again off again boyfriend situation is for context as to why she doesn't have another reliable option than op. Doggy daycare is much cheaper than human daycare. I'm with the op NTA.

Gina Lombardo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My two small dogs at a kennel would cost me a min of 70 per day. That seems higher than daycare to me. Large dogs in my area are about 65 each per day.

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Ice Sticker
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if you are travelling 50% of the week constantly.maybe don't get dogs. Dogs are a time commitment and it sounds like the one daughter is an irresponsible dog owner.

Gina Lombardo
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really, or maybe her situation changed. Maybe the daughter with two incomes needs to tone down her expenses and either stay home or pay for daycare. Personally I stayed home with my child and dogs and we lived a very simple life on one salary.

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Sherri Chatman
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Animal vs Human...Human takes the #1 spot everytime. Mom watched the mutt for FREE for years, daughter needs to stop bitchin and get a doggie day care spot.

AR
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Daughter with the dogs got 3 years of free dog sitting when she chose a job with lots of travel. She can find dog sitters now that her mom has decided to do something else. Her mom doesn’t owe her any dog sitting at all.

Guy-Incognito
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ooft. Nta def. Baby comes first if it comes to it but mum of baby is showing extreme irrationality with no animals anywhere. She needs to talk to someone before her paranoia consumes her, her marriage, family and that kids up bringing. Seen it, not fun.

Michael Largey
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, this will affect one daughter financially. Taking responsibility for your own decisions, possessions, and life usually does. In fact, it's supposed to. It's called becoming an adult.

Spencer's slave no longer
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nobody has asked if there's a valid reason for not having the dogs around the baby? Have the dogs been socialised with children? The dogs are described as rambunctious which suggests poor or no training, boredom and attention seeking. All of these could cause a potentially dangerous "rivalry". There have been multiple cases of family dogs attacking, sometimes even killing, babies and small children recently. The parents have every right to set boundaries and I suspect that there have been issues with the dogs previously to warrant the concerns.

Janet Howe
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

IMO, if you have children or dogs, if you can't afford them, don't have them. I think it's more important for grandma to sit the child as opposed to the dogs. There is such a thing as doggie daycare, and it might be less expensive than daycare for a baby. Let the daughters fight it out.

Shoshana Sherrington
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The commenter who said the grandchild was a shiny new toy and yta . . . Woooooowwww. People over animals. Also needs with children change over time and this time is precious for the grandparents before the kid (who knows if there will be more) starts daycare. The dogs are the same level of commitment until they die and daughter one can figure it out for a few years. Don't have pets if you need to travel so much everyone would judge you as a parent if you did that

Hi, it's me
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. How did we reach a point where animals are prioritized over people? At great expense and time, I rescue dogs with severe health issues and would still never choose an animal over a human, especially my own grandchild. These are the same people who will go to therapy later saying their parents or family never gave them the attention they needed. They are dogs, not children. She got 3 years of free dog care which she should be grateful for. She should understand that her mother would not like to have time with her grandbaby. 3 days a week the grandmother can go see the dogs at night and play a bit, and she can get a doggy door for them during the day. Having a relationship with dogs or with a grandchild? Are you kidding me?

Undercover
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just common sense, but the baby will be out of the woods in 3 years and become more and more independant. The dogs, not so much... In the end you have to keep in mind that grandma provides a FREE service, so it's totally up to her how she spends her time. NTA

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Beachbum
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Child over Dogs 100% of the time. Baby’s mom may change her mind over time but sounds like sister’s rambunctious dogs need training . Sister also made a bad choice having 2 big dogs when she travels a lot. Really not fair to the dogs or mom. Easy compromise is sister gets someone to check in on the dogs during the day, mom does it in the evenings IF she wants to. Curious why YTA people don’t think mom has the “right” to stop watching animals so she can watch and develop a relationship with a real, live human. Dogs are awesome but still are animals and should always come second to people.

Bernie j. Janinsky
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA: You have been stretching yourself thin for both. Human baby the greater need (even the sweetest dog can 'switch gears'.) Unmarried daughter needs to rethink her commitment to those two dogs. Either cultivate a crazy overage 'Tom Boy' who's nuts about 'pet sitting' for days on end for free, or find those poor dogs a good home where they'll get the attention & care they deserve.

Bahama Mama
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same can be said about the mom with the baby. Don't have kids until you have time to give it the attention and care it deserves.

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This sounds like a really sick joke! Your daughter with the two dogs has so many other choices available to her. She sounds like a very spoiled ungrateful little child to place greater value on a couple of domestcated beasts over a human infant! She needs some serious mental health help. She is placing a stupid job over her two precious dogs. If her job is so important, she must not truly value or love her dogs. She could very simply get herself a job that doesn't require her to be away from her dogs! If she really loved her dogs that much, they would be worth the sacrifice! I bet that she abandons her dogs daily for her job even when she is local and doesn't travel! Aside from the obvious options of a dog sitter or kennel to provide the care that she refuses to provide while working, she could aways gift these dogs to someone who will value them enough to provide personal 24/7 care which she refuses to. She could even drop them off at the pound, which is free.

J N
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3 months ago

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I don't think there's an issue with dogs being alone for 3 whole days when they've got someone to feed them etc. in fact it's pretty normal to leave your pets alone for a week or whatever while you're on vacation as long as someone stops by to feed them and spend a bit of time each day. It's also two dogs so they won't be bored and there's presumably a yard for them as well. I think this is a complete non-issue

Faustina Beninato
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3 months ago

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Make no mistake. Grandkids always come first before Pets! Period! According to the daughter she's placing more value on her Pet than her Child! What world is she living in? This speaks volumes about this Mother & her priorities. There's no such thing as a "Grandpet" because it is a fantasy in her twisted mind! The daughter is manipulating her Mother with the ""Silent Treatment", which is infantile. I guess this daughter is an adult version of a "brat";. let her have this "Silent" tantrum, while the Mother remains steadfast & determined to choose whatever she wants!

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