Bored Panda works better on our iPhone app
Continue in app Continue in browser

BoredPanda Add post form topAdd Post
Tooltip close

The Bored Panda iOS app is live! Fight boredom with iPhones and iPads here.

Granny Says 3YO Granddaughter Doesn’t Know What She Wants, Insists On Kissing Her As She Says No
1.2K

Granny Says 3YO Granddaughter Doesn’t Know What She Wants, Insists On Kissing Her As She Says No

ADVERTISEMENT

Consent is important, but it’s often a subject people get touchy about, especially regarding children. In families, relatives love doting on young kids and giving them hugs, cuddles, and pecks on the cheek. But if they’re told not to do these loving gestures, people tend to get angry.

This is something a woman struggled with while trying to teach her toddler about consent. Even when her daughter said no, the child’s granny kept trying to be affectionate. The woman wondered if she was wrong for not liking that behavior.

Highlights
  • Woman struggles with grandma not respecting her 3-year-old's consent, making her teaching efforts difficult.
  • Experts state teaching consent and respecting children's boundaries at an early age is crucial for their well-being.
  • Studies show 30-40% of child abuse victims are harmed by family, highlighting the importance of teaching consent.

More info: Netmums

Everyone knows how important it is to respect people’s boundaries, but when it comes to kids, folks often tend to downplay the situation

Image credits: Polesie Toys / Pexels (not the actual photo)

The woman explained that she was trying to teach her 3-year-old about bodily autonomy but that her mom was making things difficult by disrespecting the kid’s boundaries

ADVERTISEMENT

Image credits: Juan Pablo Serrano / Pexels (not the actual photo)

Even when the child said no to hugs and kisses, the grandma would do it anyway and say, “don’t be silly, of course, you can hug your nanny”

Image credits: Laura H(8)

The poster didn’t like that her mom was being so persistent with cuddles and kisses even when the child didn’t want it, but she wondered if she was ridiculous to think that way

The woman explained that she had been trying to teach her toddler that her body was hers and that she could say no to things that made her feel uncomfortable. As adults, we know we have the right to set boundaries when it comes to physical touch. Children also have these rights and can reject physical contact if they don’t want it.

Understandably, the grandmom wanted to show her granddaughter love and affection in the only way she knew how. It might also have just been her way of showing how much she cares about the child. But in many families, kids often feel obligated to hug or kiss their relatives, because if they say no, the adult may feel offended.

ADVERTISEMENT

This is a belief system that needs to change because studies on child abuse have found that around 30-40% of victims get abused by family members. So, if kids aren’t allowed to set boundaries with relatives or are not taught about consent, they might easily fall into the trap of a predator. 

It’s impossible to gauge which person has ill intentions toward the child. That’s why kids should be allowed to say no to anyone if they feel uncomfortable. Even though it’s an important issue, whenever the woman tried speaking to her mom about it, she’d say the poster was being ridiculous.

Image credits: Andrea Piacquadio / Pexels (not the actual photo)

ADVERTISEMENT

The woman also said that she was in two minds about the situation. On one hand, she wanted her daughter to feel she had control over her body, and on the other hand, she wasn’t sure if she was overreacting to her mom’s behavior. The problem is that netizens were also divided on the topic.

ADVERTISEMENT

Experts on child well-being and care state that it’s very important for children to be taught about consent and for parents to ensure their boundaries are respected. Kids should be educated about it as early as possible and at an age-appropriate level so that their understanding develops as they mature.

Parents may worry about offending relatives by setting such boundaries. That’s why they need to first start the discussion and explain why the issue is so important. Relatives can ask questions and also collaboratively come up with alternatives to hugging and kissing that might be more comfortable for the child.

This might seem like a very new concept because most people in previous generations were not taught about consent or bodily autonomy. But it’s essential to understand why the topic is so important. Such knowledge could help a young child escape from or speak up about an unsafe situation, and that’s truly wonderful.

What’s your verdict on this situation? Do you think the mom was being ridiculous and getting worked up over nothing?

Some people felt that family members should be taught to respect a child’s boundaries and that the mom wasn’t being ridiculous

ADVERTISEMENT

Image credits: Daka / Pexels (not the actual photo)

Other folks said that such boundaries should only be imposed on extended family members, not on close relatives

ADVERTISEMENT
Ic_polls

Poll Question

Thanks! Check out the results:

Share on Facebook
Beverly Noronha

Beverly Noronha

Writer, BoredPanda staff

Read more »

You can call me Bev! I'm a world-class reader, a quirky writer, and a gardener who paints. If you’re looking for information about tattoos, Bulbasaur, and books, then I'm the NPC you must approach.

Read less »
Beverly Noronha

Beverly Noronha

Writer, BoredPanda staff

You can call me Bev! I'm a world-class reader, a quirky writer, and a gardener who paints. If you’re looking for information about tattoos, Bulbasaur, and books, then I'm the NPC you must approach.

Rūta Zumbrickaitė

Rūta Zumbrickaitė

Author, BoredPanda staff

Read more »

Hi! Nice to meet you~ I'm very passionate about animals, especially cats, photography, small DIY projects, music and so much more! Could say I am the TV show The Office connoisseur since I have seen it at least a dozen times~

Read less »

Rūta Zumbrickaitė

Rūta Zumbrickaitė

Author, BoredPanda staff

Hi! Nice to meet you~ I'm very passionate about animals, especially cats, photography, small DIY projects, music and so much more! Could say I am the TV show The Office connoisseur since I have seen it at least a dozen times~

How should the mom address her child's boundary issues with the grandma?
Add photo comments
POST
Adam Belaire
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, but even with a "safe" adult, if the child does not want to be hugged or kissed, the child shouldn't get hugged or kissed. Pretty sure the saying is "no means no" not "no means no unless you're immediate family then no doesn't mean anything and you are allowed to do whatever you want"

Sand Ers
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Safe” adults are by far the most likely to be child predators. The “random stranger kidnapper” does happen, but not nearly as much as the news would make you think. The reason those stories blow up is because they’re so rare.

Load More Replies...
Rita Verschuure
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The firts five years wil lay the foundation of the rest of your life, especially with regards to relationships. If you are taught that you have to accept that close family gets to kiss, hold and touch you anytime they want it, you basically learn that you can not set boundaries to them. This will put you at risk for things like incest and domestic abuse. So you need to learn that it is totally okay to kiss and hug nanny and be kissed and hugged by her, but only if and when you BOTH wish to do so.

A girl
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hated being hugged or kissed by anyone when I didn't want it. My earliest memories are hiding behind Mom to avoid it. I've watched my grandson (5yo) since he was 18 months old. Sometimes he's fuzzy and wants hugs and kisses. Sometimes he's not. My husband always tries to force a hug. I taught gs that if he doesn't want to, he doesn't have to. It's his choice. Both husband and I get plenty of hugs from him, voluntarily.

Xris
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've known people who were molested by close family- NO means NO and learning it at an early age is important. Why on earth would we subect little girls to more s**t? Why is the grandma so needy?

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would be wary of leaving a child with anyone who wanted to kiss someone who didn't want to kiss them back. She is using hugs and kisses to make sure the child knows she has no power and can't challenge grandma, and then she's going out of her way to prove the same point to OP. It's insidious, that power play will shine through in other aspects, and It's only going to be more of a problem as the kid ages. The child will get bullied into being ashamed of her likes and dislikes, she'll lose confidence. Find another solution for child care. Teach your child no means no and that you'll always have her back.

Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a little girl, I wasn't allowed to say no to an adult. I was also molested by my uncle.

Somebodys grandmother
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My nephew didn't wan't hugs from he was 3... I stopped. We have grown SO CLOSE because I stopped. Today... 20 years later he lives with me while he studies... To teach children that it's okay not to wan't hugs etc. iIS VERY IMPORTANT. Ask for consent!!

DrBronxx
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a 19-month-old. She'll come over for a hug sometimes, spontaneously or upon request, and sometimes she won't. It's really up to her, and we don't push it.

Roberta Schrote
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grandma's unwelcome affection is exactly why teaching a child to say NO is important. I wish Grandma knew that if she had just said 'Okay, maybe next time,' the empowered child would probably have jumped into her arms.

Insomniac
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children NEED to be taught that their bodies are their own. I was never allowed to refuse hugs, etc. from adults. Shock of shocks, I experienced considerable SA, and now suffer from crippling CPTSD.

kath morgan
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Your mum is a ‘safe’ adult”… most abuse is done by people the victim should have been able to trust. A “safe” person is one who respects boundaries, regardless of their relationship to you.

Candi Cabaniss
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It happened to me. I am visiting my son and his family. "give grandma a hug" says daughter in law. "No," say three year old grand daughter. "Good for you kiddo," I said, "you're setting boundaries." We eventually settled on fist bumps.

Sand Ers
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is how depending on grandparents or other family members for childcare comes with a cost. Grandma would change her tune in a snap if she was told “respect boundaries, or no contact”.

KatSaidWhat
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So basically anyone in my family is a safe adult ... except that one that actually wasn't? Because he did what grandma was doing and it's not different because of gender. If you don't want to be kissed or cuddled, it's considered a form of assault to force it on you. Grandma needs to respect boundaries.

Lyoness
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people saying those boundaries should only be in place for extended family, NO. They've clearly never heard that physical or SA does happen within families. Knowing the word "no" at any age is critical, and the child needs to learn her boundaries should be respected. If her own Nan won't, why would she ever expect a stranger to?

Trundle
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look at all the perverted sickos voting YTA because someone won’t let an adult kiss a child. The projection of desire is astounding. Truly sick individuals

catastrophegirl
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

and that's how you alienate your grandchild, by making them feel uncomfortable and disrespected around you. a few more years of this when the child is big enough to force grandma away, and she will never get another hug from the kid

LaserBrain
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People like this really make me angry. If a kid says no to this, for gods sake please respect the kid's wishes.

Hphizzle
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was forced to tell my grandparents “I love you.” I maybe saw them twice a year for a few days. They lived a 20 hour drive away (neither side would fly). They weren’t bad people, but I seriously didn’t know them. Why should I be forced to tell them something that I feel is very personal, and should only be used when I really mean it.

Anna Drever
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m a grandma and I’m leaving it to my grandkids to dictate what they want in the way of hugs etc. Their wishes come first. We can go with a fist bump or a high five if they prefer, or just a verbal hello or goodbye. I won’t be traumatised if a child isn’t receptive to a hug. Anyone who takes that to heart needs to learn to suck it up and get over themselves. And if that means therapy for the adult then so be it.

Spencer's slave no longer
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a Nana too and any my grandkids know hugs etc are not expected. Their bodies, their choices and I respect their feelings and choices.

Load More Replies...
Black Cats and Corgis
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"A 3 year old doesn't know what she wants." can turn into "A 7 year old doesn't know what she wants.", which can then turn into "A 12 year old doesn't know what she wants." Then where is the line drawn? How old is old enough to "know what she wants.", according to grandma? Where is the magical line in the sand drawn? Let's say her 8th birthday? The day before, it's "A 7 year old doesn't know what she wants.", and then the next day, like magic, all of a sudden she'll know what she wants? The people most likely to hurt children are their immediate/extended family. Children need to be allowed to say no. Those who are, are less likely to be abused, and even if they are, those children are the most likely to come forward and tell others about said abuse. Grandma needs to get out of that mindset, and learn that even 3 year olds know what they want sometimes.

Dusty's mom
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a married woman and never liked overbearing hugs and kisses as a child. Still feel this way and I'm in my 60s. I wish I could have fended off smoochy relatives. Of course your daughter can say "no, thank you!"

Plant Wizard
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let the child choose who to go to. They often have a sense about things that adults dont see. I was always forced to hug and kiss relatives and I HATED it. My great aunt had whiskers on her chin and smelt weird I hated getting really close to her. My mother thought I should hug and kiss all my uncles and aunts some I was happy too but others freaked me out.

Ron
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the hell is wrong with consent-hating, pedophile-enabling "Dee R" and others like her who think children's bodies belong to them and kids are only allowed ("maybe") to say no to "extended family and friends but not immediate family."

Red Skye
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell your daughter's grandma, you are teaching your daughter about consent, and don't you dare teach my child that if someone is family UNWANTED TOUCHING of any kind she has clear she does not want, is OK, even after she says NO, because rape and insest happens, Just because she's a female doesn't make it right, it makes it WORSE, that a female role model is trampling all over your daughter's boundaries. She needs to know that it's ok to say no, EVEN to family members, and to all those people saying the mother's being ridiculous, shame on you inscestous pedophile pimps.

Coffee Comma Black
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand wanting kisses and cuddles as a new aunt. But this is about boundaries. If they aren’t respected, she’s gonna have a hard time setting and enforcing them later life.

Lorielovesdogs
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a grandma, love my wonderful grandkids, but would NEVER force a hug or kiss at any age. Instead maybe ask to snuggle together while reading a book, telling a story, playing a game, watching a movie, etc. These all make better memories than being forced into physical contact when you’re not in the mood.

Stannous Flouride
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is all relatively a new concept, i.e., teaching a child that their body autonomy is up to them and as a 72 y.o. male with a 34 y.o. daughter, I LOVE it. If we're ever going to escape out cultural bonds we have to do things like this.

meow point1
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those people were so rude telling her she was "being ridiculous"!

RAM31280
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. I (44M) am child free, but when I visit a nephew, he has a lot of cousins I am not related to, I'm always surprised their parents tell them to hug everyone goodbye, and I am super uncomfortable hugging these kids I barely know, who look like they don't want to hug me either but are doing it anyways because they are told to. I with their parents would have this talk with them. It is the only thing I am dreading about visiting my sister for my nephew's birthday party next weekend, and will try to get out of hugging them goodbye.

Michael Largey
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whatever the parties' ages or relationships are, the only right way to get a kiss is to deserve one.

notlikeyou1971
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A child should NEVER be forced to accept hugs or kisses from anyone. I don't care if they are family. They have the right to choose. NO MEANS NO! It isn't just random strangers that are known as child predators. Sometimes family are predators as well. A child in our old building was being molested by her uncle and he was family. Just because you are related doesn't mean that an adult has the right to do whatever ever they want to a child. I don't want to hear that she doesn't know what she wants. SHE TOLD YOU NO! It's being forced on her by her Grandma anyway. Your child should have control over her body. This older generation needs to learn how to accept the times have changed and they need to learn to accept boundaries. NO is a complete answer. There's a price to pay for accepting child care from Grandma. Unfortunately your child is paying the price of having people giving her unwanted affection. This isn't my Generation ( Gen X) where us kids were forced to take unwanted hugs and kisses. Your kid has a say. By the way, I am a multiple SA survivor. ( Separate incidents different assaults) Protect your child.

Liz Williams
Community Member
1 month ago

This comment has been deleted.

Jessie TeWinkel
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please respect your child and let Grandma know she'll be seeing less of her if she continues to force affection on her. I still remember visiting my grandparents as a small child, and being passed down to be hugged and kissed by all nine aunts and uncles. I was never hugged or kissed at home so this made me very uncomfortable, but if I pulled back someone would say, "Terrible girl, she doesn't love her family!" and force me right back in the line. Also, they always kissed on the lips and licked their lips first, so by the time they were done my face was covered with saliva. Don't ever make a child feel like an object to be passed around and forced to give affection to anyone, no matter how close that person is to the family.

Julia French
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rules of consent & how they are taught have changed so much in the last decade or so it's not surprising granny doesn't get it. So ... cut granny some slack but do keep trying to teach her gently & talk to daughter about it - "I'm sorry granny is too old fashioned to get it but no does mean no so keep on saying it"

Midoribird Aoi
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How stupid to maintain that you have to accept forced affection from close family Leav is he kid super scared and confused when a close family member starts molesting them, and they think they HAVE to accept it?

Adam Belaire
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, but even with a "safe" adult, if the child does not want to be hugged or kissed, the child shouldn't get hugged or kissed. Pretty sure the saying is "no means no" not "no means no unless you're immediate family then no doesn't mean anything and you are allowed to do whatever you want"

Sand Ers
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Safe” adults are by far the most likely to be child predators. The “random stranger kidnapper” does happen, but not nearly as much as the news would make you think. The reason those stories blow up is because they’re so rare.

Load More Replies...
Rita Verschuure
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The firts five years wil lay the foundation of the rest of your life, especially with regards to relationships. If you are taught that you have to accept that close family gets to kiss, hold and touch you anytime they want it, you basically learn that you can not set boundaries to them. This will put you at risk for things like incest and domestic abuse. So you need to learn that it is totally okay to kiss and hug nanny and be kissed and hugged by her, but only if and when you BOTH wish to do so.

A girl
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hated being hugged or kissed by anyone when I didn't want it. My earliest memories are hiding behind Mom to avoid it. I've watched my grandson (5yo) since he was 18 months old. Sometimes he's fuzzy and wants hugs and kisses. Sometimes he's not. My husband always tries to force a hug. I taught gs that if he doesn't want to, he doesn't have to. It's his choice. Both husband and I get plenty of hugs from him, voluntarily.

Xris
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've known people who were molested by close family- NO means NO and learning it at an early age is important. Why on earth would we subect little girls to more s**t? Why is the grandma so needy?

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would be wary of leaving a child with anyone who wanted to kiss someone who didn't want to kiss them back. She is using hugs and kisses to make sure the child knows she has no power and can't challenge grandma, and then she's going out of her way to prove the same point to OP. It's insidious, that power play will shine through in other aspects, and It's only going to be more of a problem as the kid ages. The child will get bullied into being ashamed of her likes and dislikes, she'll lose confidence. Find another solution for child care. Teach your child no means no and that you'll always have her back.

Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a little girl, I wasn't allowed to say no to an adult. I was also molested by my uncle.

Somebodys grandmother
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My nephew didn't wan't hugs from he was 3... I stopped. We have grown SO CLOSE because I stopped. Today... 20 years later he lives with me while he studies... To teach children that it's okay not to wan't hugs etc. iIS VERY IMPORTANT. Ask for consent!!

DrBronxx
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a 19-month-old. She'll come over for a hug sometimes, spontaneously or upon request, and sometimes she won't. It's really up to her, and we don't push it.

Roberta Schrote
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grandma's unwelcome affection is exactly why teaching a child to say NO is important. I wish Grandma knew that if she had just said 'Okay, maybe next time,' the empowered child would probably have jumped into her arms.

Insomniac
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children NEED to be taught that their bodies are their own. I was never allowed to refuse hugs, etc. from adults. Shock of shocks, I experienced considerable SA, and now suffer from crippling CPTSD.

kath morgan
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Your mum is a ‘safe’ adult”… most abuse is done by people the victim should have been able to trust. A “safe” person is one who respects boundaries, regardless of their relationship to you.

Candi Cabaniss
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It happened to me. I am visiting my son and his family. "give grandma a hug" says daughter in law. "No," say three year old grand daughter. "Good for you kiddo," I said, "you're setting boundaries." We eventually settled on fist bumps.

Sand Ers
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is how depending on grandparents or other family members for childcare comes with a cost. Grandma would change her tune in a snap if she was told “respect boundaries, or no contact”.

KatSaidWhat
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So basically anyone in my family is a safe adult ... except that one that actually wasn't? Because he did what grandma was doing and it's not different because of gender. If you don't want to be kissed or cuddled, it's considered a form of assault to force it on you. Grandma needs to respect boundaries.

Lyoness
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people saying those boundaries should only be in place for extended family, NO. They've clearly never heard that physical or SA does happen within families. Knowing the word "no" at any age is critical, and the child needs to learn her boundaries should be respected. If her own Nan won't, why would she ever expect a stranger to?

Trundle
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look at all the perverted sickos voting YTA because someone won’t let an adult kiss a child. The projection of desire is astounding. Truly sick individuals

catastrophegirl
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

and that's how you alienate your grandchild, by making them feel uncomfortable and disrespected around you. a few more years of this when the child is big enough to force grandma away, and she will never get another hug from the kid

LaserBrain
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People like this really make me angry. If a kid says no to this, for gods sake please respect the kid's wishes.

Hphizzle
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was forced to tell my grandparents “I love you.” I maybe saw them twice a year for a few days. They lived a 20 hour drive away (neither side would fly). They weren’t bad people, but I seriously didn’t know them. Why should I be forced to tell them something that I feel is very personal, and should only be used when I really mean it.

Anna Drever
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m a grandma and I’m leaving it to my grandkids to dictate what they want in the way of hugs etc. Their wishes come first. We can go with a fist bump or a high five if they prefer, or just a verbal hello or goodbye. I won’t be traumatised if a child isn’t receptive to a hug. Anyone who takes that to heart needs to learn to suck it up and get over themselves. And if that means therapy for the adult then so be it.

Spencer's slave no longer
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a Nana too and any my grandkids know hugs etc are not expected. Their bodies, their choices and I respect their feelings and choices.

Load More Replies...
Black Cats and Corgis
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"A 3 year old doesn't know what she wants." can turn into "A 7 year old doesn't know what she wants.", which can then turn into "A 12 year old doesn't know what she wants." Then where is the line drawn? How old is old enough to "know what she wants.", according to grandma? Where is the magical line in the sand drawn? Let's say her 8th birthday? The day before, it's "A 7 year old doesn't know what she wants.", and then the next day, like magic, all of a sudden she'll know what she wants? The people most likely to hurt children are their immediate/extended family. Children need to be allowed to say no. Those who are, are less likely to be abused, and even if they are, those children are the most likely to come forward and tell others about said abuse. Grandma needs to get out of that mindset, and learn that even 3 year olds know what they want sometimes.

Dusty's mom
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a married woman and never liked overbearing hugs and kisses as a child. Still feel this way and I'm in my 60s. I wish I could have fended off smoochy relatives. Of course your daughter can say "no, thank you!"

Plant Wizard
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let the child choose who to go to. They often have a sense about things that adults dont see. I was always forced to hug and kiss relatives and I HATED it. My great aunt had whiskers on her chin and smelt weird I hated getting really close to her. My mother thought I should hug and kiss all my uncles and aunts some I was happy too but others freaked me out.

Ron
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the hell is wrong with consent-hating, pedophile-enabling "Dee R" and others like her who think children's bodies belong to them and kids are only allowed ("maybe") to say no to "extended family and friends but not immediate family."

Red Skye
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell your daughter's grandma, you are teaching your daughter about consent, and don't you dare teach my child that if someone is family UNWANTED TOUCHING of any kind she has clear she does not want, is OK, even after she says NO, because rape and insest happens, Just because she's a female doesn't make it right, it makes it WORSE, that a female role model is trampling all over your daughter's boundaries. She needs to know that it's ok to say no, EVEN to family members, and to all those people saying the mother's being ridiculous, shame on you inscestous pedophile pimps.

Coffee Comma Black
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand wanting kisses and cuddles as a new aunt. But this is about boundaries. If they aren’t respected, she’s gonna have a hard time setting and enforcing them later life.

Lorielovesdogs
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a grandma, love my wonderful grandkids, but would NEVER force a hug or kiss at any age. Instead maybe ask to snuggle together while reading a book, telling a story, playing a game, watching a movie, etc. These all make better memories than being forced into physical contact when you’re not in the mood.

Stannous Flouride
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is all relatively a new concept, i.e., teaching a child that their body autonomy is up to them and as a 72 y.o. male with a 34 y.o. daughter, I LOVE it. If we're ever going to escape out cultural bonds we have to do things like this.

meow point1
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those people were so rude telling her she was "being ridiculous"!

RAM31280
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. I (44M) am child free, but when I visit a nephew, he has a lot of cousins I am not related to, I'm always surprised their parents tell them to hug everyone goodbye, and I am super uncomfortable hugging these kids I barely know, who look like they don't want to hug me either but are doing it anyways because they are told to. I with their parents would have this talk with them. It is the only thing I am dreading about visiting my sister for my nephew's birthday party next weekend, and will try to get out of hugging them goodbye.

Michael Largey
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whatever the parties' ages or relationships are, the only right way to get a kiss is to deserve one.

notlikeyou1971
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A child should NEVER be forced to accept hugs or kisses from anyone. I don't care if they are family. They have the right to choose. NO MEANS NO! It isn't just random strangers that are known as child predators. Sometimes family are predators as well. A child in our old building was being molested by her uncle and he was family. Just because you are related doesn't mean that an adult has the right to do whatever ever they want to a child. I don't want to hear that she doesn't know what she wants. SHE TOLD YOU NO! It's being forced on her by her Grandma anyway. Your child should have control over her body. This older generation needs to learn how to accept the times have changed and they need to learn to accept boundaries. NO is a complete answer. There's a price to pay for accepting child care from Grandma. Unfortunately your child is paying the price of having people giving her unwanted affection. This isn't my Generation ( Gen X) where us kids were forced to take unwanted hugs and kisses. Your kid has a say. By the way, I am a multiple SA survivor. ( Separate incidents different assaults) Protect your child.

Liz Williams
Community Member
1 month ago

This comment has been deleted.

Jessie TeWinkel
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please respect your child and let Grandma know she'll be seeing less of her if she continues to force affection on her. I still remember visiting my grandparents as a small child, and being passed down to be hugged and kissed by all nine aunts and uncles. I was never hugged or kissed at home so this made me very uncomfortable, but if I pulled back someone would say, "Terrible girl, she doesn't love her family!" and force me right back in the line. Also, they always kissed on the lips and licked their lips first, so by the time they were done my face was covered with saliva. Don't ever make a child feel like an object to be passed around and forced to give affection to anyone, no matter how close that person is to the family.

Julia French
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rules of consent & how they are taught have changed so much in the last decade or so it's not surprising granny doesn't get it. So ... cut granny some slack but do keep trying to teach her gently & talk to daughter about it - "I'm sorry granny is too old fashioned to get it but no does mean no so keep on saying it"

Midoribird Aoi
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How stupid to maintain that you have to accept forced affection from close family Leav is he kid super scared and confused when a close family member starts molesting them, and they think they HAVE to accept it?

Related on Bored Panda
Related on Bored Panda
Trending on Bored Panda
Also on Bored Panda