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Zookeeper Finally Explains What Harambe Was Actually Doing With The Kid
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Zookeeper Finally Explains What Harambe Was Actually Doing With The Kid

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Since Harambe, a 17-year-old silverback gorilla was shot dead at Cincinnati Zoo after a 4-year-old kid managed to get into his enclosure, many people were arguing that there was no need to kill the animal, claiming that he was actually trying to take care of the boy. However, Amanda O’Donoughue, a former zookeeper, has a whole different opinion which she expressed on a Facebook post a few days ago.

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    “An adult male silver back gorilla has one job, to protect his group”

    “Now Gorillas are considered ‘gentle giants’ at least when compared with their more aggressive cousins the chimpanzee, but a 400+ pound male in his prime is as strong as roughly 10 adult humans. What can you bench press? OK, now multiply that number by ten. An adult male silverback gorilla has one job, to protect his group. He does this by bluffing or intimidating anything that he feels threatened by.”

    Image credits: Amanda O’Donoughue

    The scene of Harambe with the kid is “pretty much the stuff of any keeper’s nightmares”

    “I have watched this video over again, and with the Harambe’s posturing, and tight lips, it’s pretty much the stuff of any keeper’s nightmares, and I have had MANY while working with them. This job is not for the complacent. Gorillas are kind, curious, and sometimes silly, but they are also very large, very strong animals. I always brought my OCD to work with me. checking and rechecking locks to make sure the animals under my care and I remained separated before entering to clean.”

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    Harambe wasn’t trying to protect the kid – he used him to intimidate people

    “I keep hearing that the Gorilla was trying to protect the boy. I do not find this to be true. Harambe the Gorilla reaches for the boy’s hands and arms, but only to position the child better for his own displaying purposes. Males do very elaborate displays when highly agitated, slamming and dragging things about. Typically they would drag large branches, barrels and heavy weighted balls around to make as much noise as possible. Not in an effort to hurt anyone or anything (usually) but just to intimidate. It was clear to me that he was reacting to the screams coming from the gathering crowd.”

    Image credits: Courtesy Cincinnati Zoo

    Why tranquillizers weren’t an option

    “They didn’t use Tranquilizers for a few reasons, A. Harambe would’ve taken too long to become immobilized, and could have really injured the child in the process as the drugs used may not work quickly enough depending on the stress of the situation and the dose B. Harambe would’ve have drowned in the moat if immobilized in the water, and possibly fallen on the boy trapping him and drowning him as well.”

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    Image credits: William Philpott

    “I can’t point fingers at anyone in Harambe’s death, but we need to really evaluate the safety of the animal enclosures from the visitor side…I know one thing for sure, those keepers lost a beautiful, and I mean gorgeous silverback and friend. I feel their loss with them this week. As educators and conservators of endangered species, all we can do is shine a light on the beauty and majesty of these animals in hopes to spark a love and a need to keep them from vanishing from our planet. Child killers, they are not. It’s unfortunate for the conservation of the species, and the loss of revenue a beautiful zoo such as Cinci will lose.”

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    Crystal Rose
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The enclosure should have been better protected for these reasons. The mother of the child was negligent. RIP Harambe.

    Melody Lanzatella
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I fault the zoo AND the parents. If a 4 year old could gain access to that moat, the enclosure was woefully inadequate.

    Cindy Lasher-Adkins
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wild animals need tight enclosures I blame some to parent and some to zoo for not having it secure if the kid got in what's stopping the silverback from finding same hole and getting out remember these are wild they need concrete and safe fences

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    Rita Nelson
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw a report on the enclosure yesterday and it was said by someone who went to see it that is would have been very difficult to get in to the enclosure to the Gorilla because there were several barriers to get by to get in there. That child must have been gone for quite some time to get into a situation to see that Gorilla, which he wanted to do. Very Sad!

    Lou Wow
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Am I the only one thinking gorillas are endangered but humans well....arent?

    Laura Lee Etmanski
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Soooo we should sit by and watch a child die because we have lots.of them? Why not feed you to lions. Too many of us anyway. Seriously? Sad state of the human species.

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    Lee Porter
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Amazing how its the Zoos fault yet they have been there for 42 YEARS and this has NEVER happened before, its the MOTHERS fault PERIOD

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    Ana Weyland
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Explanations are very wise and very sensible, but the gorilla is dead and he shouldn't be.

    EiramAnna GB
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so what is better, save a gorilla or save the child? We have different take on the situation. But for now let us move on from here. ..

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    Dina Obrien
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ITS THE MOTHER AND FATHERS FAULT THAT HARAMBE WAS KILLED THEY SHOULD OF KEPT A BETTER EYE ON THERE CHILD

    Rene P.
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if the animal is "so" dangerous why is it in the zoo. Oh to protect him you say. but doesn't look like you doing a good job! let them be free. they are not clowns or objects for display.

    Rita Nelson
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw a report on the enclosure yesterday and it was said the enclosures were very secure and would have been very difficult to get to that Gorilla, which means the child had to have been gone for some time to figure that out. He really wanted to be by that Gorilla. All around SAD.

    j
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sucks... The kid could've grown up with a fascination of our evolutionary cousins and may have helped with conservation efforts and lived his life as a scientist helping us understand what we as apes are... But now he'll no doubt grow up with a fear of our Great Ape cousins, we lost another bright, curious mind to parental negligence and fear-induced ignorance (the traumatic experience of this will probably make him fear non-human apes for the rest of his life, only appreciating them in the abstract...) I feel equally bad for the child as I do the gorilla. Poor kid... Also bless the female gorilla that somehow hasn't gotten any publicity for taking the child and gently carrying him away and protecting him from perceived danger to the exit of the enclosure. Harambe might not be the heroic martyr we think he is, but there was one heroic ape in the enclosure (not including the humans present, especially considering the reason this went so badly was because of the humans agitating Harambe

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    Thijs Spies
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These are all lies, Harambe is a national hero and the savior of the human race. He should be remembered by everyone and kids should learn about him at school, just like they learn about heroes like George Washington and Ben Franklin. Harambe, we will miss u always. RIP to the GOAT

    Maximilian Schrott
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    5 years ago

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    You're a delusional moron and this was just another dumb gorilla that is only discussed because libtards like you cry about

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    Timmy Burleson II
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So basically the zoo is trying to come up with b******t reasons and excuses to try and cover their assed and justify what they did what a joke

    j
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's an explanation of why shooting Harambe was the only way out of this situation as soon as people started screaming and throwing things and agitating the 400-pound silverback... It's not a justification, it's an explanation for why things had to go down the way they did as soon as the onlookers crossed a line and agitated the gorilla. I love how people who have no idea how this s**t works are always the ones to be the most critical. Same mfs to ask someone why they don't just do a 360 spin and a double backflip and shoot someone in the kneecap instead of the chest to disable them instead of kill them, lol... Just dumb...

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    Bunny Durant
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I blame parents where were they when kid got in cage?????????????????

    Janet Dalton
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the mother had been watching the child as she should have there would have been no need to kill that poor animal . What was the mother doing that she didn't notice her son was missing

    shraddha pawar
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SHUT DOWN the zoo's. Shut down every f*****g zoo on this entire planet. Caging animals is stupid af! Let them f*****g be FREE to breathe where they belong. If people are so desperate to WATCH them then let them have GUTS in A*s to go the jungles and see them. They aren't an object of entertainment !!! bastard humans!!! :O :O purposefully or without any purpose, they KILLED an innocent creature and that's what making my heart break into pieces. :O

    K L
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the f**k is it with this dumb a*s anti-zoo b******t. In some cases, their natural habitat is more dangerous than the zoo. In some cases, these animals need human intervention to even live in the wild. In the end, your white knighting b******t doesn't even do anything. F*****g do your research before you go on your high and mighty b******t.

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    Lisa Easley
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    that's why you watch your kid at the zoo they are around wild animals. Wonder if a kid napper took the kid? Anyone could leave with your child that's why you watch them. Too bad a beautiful animal had to die because a bas a@@ kid did not listen to his mother.. OK the another busy with another kid where was the dad? Was its the Zoos fault the kjd went over the rail? ummm I think not. because if the parents even half you know what even tried to watch the little boy would we even be talking about this?

    Jimmy Jeppesen
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same old same old... So were talking about a humans life is worth more than a silverback mountain male gorilla which btw is an endangered species with only 790 left in the wild. Human population worldwide 7,4 billion. Its not the animals that need to be locked up so were safe from them , we need to be locked up so the animals are safe. FTW

    Candice Goddard
    Community Member
    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What I find amazing is that people who feel like this never make themselves extinct in order to protect the lives of the animals they are championing, sometimes such people aren't even vegans, making sure not to use any products in any way sourced by animals. That's hypocrisy. If you feel like that, give up your life for animals. Go and work out so you're muscular (muscle is meat) then travel to the polar region and preach to a polar bear. They're endangered too and could use a nice meal.

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    Sujay Pillai
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm amazed that no one thinks animals should never be kept in a zoo. It's wrong no matter how well they are taken care of. No human would like to be kept in captivity. The argument is made that this helps spread awareness and raise money, but all this could be done in a way as to keep the animals far removed from the visitors. Go on a damned safari if you want to see wild animals. This world is full of national parks with animals in their natural habitat. Either way the gorilla is dead through no fault of its own and if we replace him with a human being the injustice of it would be clear to all of us.

    Kim Chi
    Community Member
    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most animals in zoos are being bred because they are endangered and losing their habitat. What many people don't realize is Zoos don't just display animals they breed them for release in the wild to repopulate endangered populations. Zoos have save many animals including animals that are no longer able to survive in the wild on their own. Look at the Panda. When I was a kid in the 80's we were told that Panda's would be extinct in 10 year. Then San Diego Zoo and China got together and changed everything. Now we have Pandas. Pandas can't survive on their own because for some reason they've devolve as a species and reproduction is extremely difficult but Zoos saved the animal. Same can be said for Ring Tailed Lemurs. Another animal that was critically endangered in the 80's. The Los Angeles Zoo had one of the biggest breeding programs and helped repopulate the Lemurs. Now Lemurs have no home due to forest destruction. Zoos are saving them as a species.

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    Radical Musoka
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    a good reasoning should start with human's hubris ... enclosing a living being... disposing of his life as they want... just take a moment and ponder how all "inhuman" act are made by "humans"...

    Ana Weyland
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the first place, the child should not have been exposed to any danger by his parents. As this was not the situation, EVERYTHING should have been done to save both, the boy and Harambe. I don't know whether the child was really in danger - I was not there and can only comment from the video. But I have personally seen a large animal tranquilised by means of a dart and it doesn't take that long for the animal to lose conscience. This is a sensitive matter and each one of us has an opinion. I'm probably wrong, but this is what I feel deep down.

    Megan Gaynes
    Community Member
    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have seen multiple animals darted — they absolutely do NOT go down easily and can be very dangerous in the process. Your own anecdotal experience is irrelevant.

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    Ann Shonia
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    beauitiful animal was killed because b***h couldn't pay enough attention to her child :@

    blugeagua
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't just blame the mother. The father was there too and didn't keep watch of his child. And there's no need for such misogynist language.

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    Lisa Shinn
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It still breaks my heart that humans locked this incredible, ENDANGERED, magnificent fellow species in a CAGE (because humans are too selfish to share the planet with their fellow earthlings) then when a negligent human allows their child to gain access to this animals captive home the innocent animal loses his life!!!! At the very least the parents should have been charged with child endangerment and the zoo should have sued them (not that you can put a price on Harambes life as it was priceless especially to him) for the loss of their beloved gorilla! As a species that has over populated and destroys and rapes the planet for our selfish egotistical "wants" i have to admit it bothers me more that the gorilla was murdered for simply being a gorilla then if the human hadn't survived.

    Theresa Tzitzira
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    when an interaction between a human and an animal turns out the wrong way and disaster hits, it is always the animal that pays the price of the humans being careless, negligent or superficial...

    Dawn Prince-Hughes
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have worked with gorillas since 1986. It has taken me all these years to have the stomach to read this article. As i knew without even watching the film of Harambe's murder, screaming humans with no reflexivity or self control killed this man. He should have been in the wilds of his own land, to begin with. Zoos are slavery. Secondly, because we see oo animals as removed entertainment, like little tvs, humans at the scene didn't know how to comport themselves in a way that ensured a better outcome. I will never believe that Harambe would have killed this child. His death was murder. period. I only wish I had been there to take the bullet for him.

    Please Dont
    Community Member
    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They could have worked to quiet and disperse the crowd... instead they focused on the animal and murdered him. They should have had workers moving the idiotic screaming people. Now a beautiful animal is lost "for the sake" of some typical child. The zookeeper only addresses the part that the gorilla was trying to protect the child, but even if thats not the case, that doesn't follow that the killing the gorilla was justified. If the crowds have been moved, the gorilla would have also calmed down. Our society would be more benefited by killing the offspring of idiotic screaming parents.

    Please Dont
    Community Member
    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Zookeeper: Well he wasn't trying to protect the child, he was trying to frighten the crazy crowd away Other person if this was a convo and not a statement: ... that doesn't explain why you shot him....

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    Katrina Tsao
    Community Member
    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ok. WHY DO PEOPLE THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO IMPRISON ANY ANIMAL IN A ZOO? HUMANS LAUGH OUTSIDE WHILE THE POOR ANIMALS CRY FOR THEIR WILD ANCESTORS INSIDE! Harambe was innocent! I LOATHE THE PERSON WHO SAID THIS ARTICLE! I can't understand why humans have to hate animals so much. IF PEOPLE DO NOT CAPTURE ANIMALS THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!!!

    K L
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you're an actual idiot. you need to do research on why zoos exist in the first place and not put your dumbass morality in play. Zoos exist to protect animals and conserve them.

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    NewsZane999
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    idiot parents of the kid i say probably some irresponsible parent.Harambe shouldnt have died :( R.I.P rip-58d7cb...953f6b.jpg rip-58d7cb7953f6b.jpg

    Jordin Agnew
    Community Member
    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Zoo Keeper is an idiot and total moron. She gives the reason for not using a tranquilizer as "Harambe would have drowned in the water possibly trapping the boy beneath him"..... Is she really this f*****g stupid? Shooting him with a gun will make him dead in the water possibly trapping the boy beneath him? Like what the f**k? Does the zookeeper have s**t for brains?

    Josh Kubiak
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should have shot the parents as well as shut down the zoo permanently. They dont deserve to operate if this is the best they can do. RIP 100% completely innocent animal. Pathetic.

    Toby Reeve
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry but the dragging movement used by harambe matches the one of the movement mothers of gorillas use to move them. At the start of the video harambe placed him self in front of the child. As seen in 1986 when a 3 year old boy falls into a gorilla Inclosure the gorilla places him self between the boy and the other gorillas( notice the mirroring of action between him and hamambe) that 450 lbs male did nothing but try to protect the boys as harambe did. The zoo was wrong for shoting a animal the was trying to help what they saw as the victim.

    el flesh
    Community Member
    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, the zoo was right - but it was ONLY made so because the stupid crowd screamed their heads off like a bunch if idiots. If they had kept quiet and not panicked like brainless sheep, the situation would have likely turned out much better like it did in 1986 in Australia.

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    Saurian Tyrannosaurus rex
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i heard people say it's one of the ways of transporting their infants The manual “Management of Gorillas in Captivity” lists dragging as a method gorillas use to transport infants. Those methods include: 1) arm walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while the infant sat in one palm and held onto her arm; 2) crutch walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while holding her infant in her lap and used her arms as crutches; 3) drag --a mother walked tripedally while the infant was held in one hand away from the body; 4) leg walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while the infant held onto her rear leg. @ gorillassp.org/MembersSection/MembersOnlyForms/Gorilla%20Husbandry%20Manual.pdf#65

    Parth Girme
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the end did she say loss or revenue for the zoo!!!! I really hope I'm misunderstanding something here.

    Katinka Min
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the mothers fault!!!! It's the zoo's fault!!! Sometimes, different factors just come together in an awful fashion. It's called an 'accident' If anybody is at fault, it is stupid humans who feel it necessary to pack wild animals into enclosed spaces to they can gape and wave at them.

    Just A Girl
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not just the zoo's fault, and not just the parents fault. It's both.

    Karen Lunsford
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    PARENTS NEED TO WATCH THERE CHILDREN AND THEY MUST TAKE CARE OF WHAT THERE CHILDREN RE DOING

    Kendra Merithew
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First I have to say I m glad the child is safe as he is not at fault for this. His neglectful self absorbed mother with more kids then she can handle is. That being said since the crowd was agitating Harambe to the point that he felt the need to posture, my question would be was any attempt made to get the screaming idiots evacuated from the area first? This alone may have been able to help calm Harambe enough to try to tempt him with some other things he may like and possibly save both. This enclosure has been more then sufficient for all this time and I have to agree with many others that said it took more then a few minutes for the child to get in. Also the little child was overheard telling his mom that he wanted to go in. Instead of just telling him no she should have either left the area with him or made him hold her hand. But silly me the photos to social media are so much more important then watching your child.(sarcasm intended,)

    Lisa Flynn
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, the boy should not have been able to get over the enclosure. But after saying several times that he was going in the mother should have never turned her back away from him. Harambe was only doing what he knew to do . The zoo and the parents share the blame for the boy getting into the enclosure and harambe owns none of it.

    Michelle Diaz-Cummings
    Community Member
    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay well here's the deal zookeepers, if you know them so well,and he was getting agitated because of people yelling out, why not let these people who should've instinctively known to stfu, to stfu?And isn't this pic sweet of her to be lovingly feeding him through a fence. My god, if you love him get him to his "real" home.The only reason people are blaming the zoo is not because the zoo exists but because the enclosures aren't full proof? I'm sick

    Maximilian Schrott
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're a moron to expect zoos to control masses like this to not scream. Even if you teach people to be calm and how to get to safety in dangerous situation, when that actually happens most will panic and be anything but calm and not save themselves. People scream in panic, that's just how it is. Also zoo existance is fine, but the enclosures should be protected better AND the dumb mom should watch her child, go away scrawny hippie

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    Leighth
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Really really angers me. Cincinnati Zoo looks like a dump and they treat the inhabitants even deadlier.

    Ikemsinachi Okpareke
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    UR A FRIKIN ZOO SO GET FRIKIN TRANGQUILIZERS harambe didnt need to die also what kind of parents would let their 3 year old get in a frikin enclosure??? what kind of mom are you???? thats like letting your child just, die!!!! WTF?!!??!!??!?

    Angela Braverman
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Total BS. F**k the parents They should be sued. Little a*****e! Those asshat parents are not parents at all. No respect no remorse. Ignorance.

    Angela Braverman
    Community Member
    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    B******t! Loser mom let the brat climb all over! Family should be sued!

    Michael Fuentes
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you believed he would’ve drowned in the moat after being tranquillized that is odd due to rapid response teams reacting same goes for the gorilla on kid situation. It played out wrong. A Gorilla was killed needlessly everyone wants to say this and that for excuses why but same as the healthcare situation now readiness was sub par so deaths occurs point the finger at everyone else not this Gorilla

    Jamieson King
    Community Member
    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F**k off you couldve used tranquilizers cause it still wouldve stopped him

    Emmy Smith
    Community Member
    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s so sad that the stupidity of a child took the life of a gorilla

    Julia Montalvo
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This zoo is horrible i hate them for choosing to kill. Did anyone ever thought of a tranquilizer. Right away first thought is to kill. I will never visit or sponsor any zoo. If this is what they do to these innocent animals. How about building enclosures where kids that can stay still don't fall. Dumb a*s family. I hope they get their karma. U brought an innocent animal to the zoo claiming that you're protecting them instead you killed him. What else will you be killing

    Julia Montalvo
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know what. I'm pissed at the idiot mother who didn't pay attention to that child. I'm also mad at the zoo for not child proofing the enclosure. You realize they captured a gorilla only to kill him like he was being hunted. Bunch of idiots all the zoos should be closed. It's not worth having animals to kill them. I will never go to a zoo

    steamly
    Community Member
    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    RIP harambe I think he was protecting the child And think about it almost every day. I'm 13 and my favorite animal is any type of primate so I've looked up alot of things about monkeys and gorillas. gorillas drag there baby's to clean them or make them dry so I believe that harambe was protecting the boy and the zookeeper who shot him is a horrible human. U will be missed. RIP harambe

    August Day
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    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think harambe was trying to protect the kid not hurt him in the mother needs to watch her kids better cuz If harambe was trying to hurt the kid and that would have been back some mother isn't watching her kids and is being negligent

    August Day
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    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor harambe I think he was trying to protect the kid not hurt him.

    Tavius Gray
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    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Haramnbe was a one of a kind silverback and for no good reason he is dead RIP harambe AND WHY DID THEY NOT USE TRANQS? THAT WAY THE CHILD AND HARAMBE COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED... THEY ARE GORILLA RACIZM BRUH

    Meme Jack
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love you harambe. I remember going everytime i was at that zoo too see harambe. I have a gorilla plush called harambe to remember him. R.I.P Harambe. 1999-2016. He will be in our hearts. Forever

    el flesh
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can point a finger at the unwashed and uneducated masses who scream like they were the lower f*****g primates. WHAT GOOD DOES SCREAMING AT A GORILLA DO, S**T FOR BRAINS?!? If everybody realized they had to retreat and stay quiet, and f*****g DID it, there might have been a far different outcome. Yes the zoo and mother was at fault, but MOSTLY THE F*****G CROWD.

    DaB MEEE
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After reading all this is the STUPID zoo and parents the zoo keeper could at least think for the animals before shooting it and the parent are Not even doing anything and was negligent

    KING crovvY
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First off the enclosure's walls should have been taller than 3 feet silverbacks are going extinct and they just shot him they could have done something better than that

    Suicide Squad IX
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The parents ignored their child resulting in the death of Harambe. R.I.P

    Oliwia Dubiel
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why zoos are awful places, none of this would have taken place if the animal was left in the wild

    Kathy Platek
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think there should not be any more zoos these animals are paying the price for these unfortunate accidents

    Danny Gorman
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the zoos fault no one either a kid or idiot should be able to get into enclosures, it's happened more than once so why don't people learn????

    Sandra Kram
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So greatful to you for sharing this info. I feel sad an animal loss it's life, but I think did the right thing to protect the child. I think it's sad how much hatred was expressed to this Mother and her child. Children are curious and can get away quickly. I think it's sad how no one in the crowd could stop yelling, and thought their noise didn't make matters worse. Why aren't we getting angry at them, and putting charges up on them? Because that would be ignorant, so is trying to charge this Mother for like so many others, rough her child to a Zoo. I agree there shouldn't be a blame game, but a learning experience, to help people learn how to act in emergency, how we need better enclosures, and there is nothing wrong with putting your child on a safety harness. I so appreciate Ms. Amanda O'Dunouhughe for sharing this insightful info to the public. It is sad that so many people, that were not even there went on the attack of the Zoo, the this Mother. We shouldn't judge.

    Megan Gaynes
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mommy was yelling the entire time too. And her kids told her he was going into the gorilla’s enclosure and all she said was “no”, with no follow up. Mommy deserves charges, regardless of how naive people excuse her incompetence away.

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    Dorothy J Townsend
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I blame the zoo for having a wild animal, they need to be in there own environment, not cooped up in a zoo. They have no privacy of there own, people watching them, caretakers feeding them and etc. Zoo's should be extinct, not the animals. you may as well put them in jail, this is all the room you get. the animals are not happy. At least in a safari, they have room to roam.

    Hunklevy Meh
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hope that kid will not be a problem to society when he grows up ...

    Nicole Forester
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F this b***h shes nothing but a prison guard! She is not an animal behaviorist! She deserves the same fate as the gorilla evil troll! Seriously anyone who thinks this animal should have been gun down shouldnt be working with animals!

    Melody Haines Diaz
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The parents should of been watching their child better, because they didn't a beautiful animal had to lose his life for someone's negligence. RIP big guy.

    KatSaidWhat
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    5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty sure we can point fingers at the parents/attendees looking after the kid.

    Glen Barratt
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    9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I primarily fault Harambee for approaching and touching the boy, then I fault the generally unpredictable and sometimes aggressive nature of all gorillas. Next I fault the boy for going where he should not. Sure he was young, but it was still HIS choices that led to him getting in. They never had a Gorilla escape before so the zoo had adequate means for keeping Gorillas enclosed. The mother didn't want her child to go in. Sure she could have been more careful and I am sure she is very regretful that she wasn't, but it was the gorilla's unpredictable nature and the boy's bad choice that really are to blame. Kids constantly do stupid things. Parents cannot control the outcomes of the nearly incessant bad choices their kids make.

    Harambe Martinez
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kids are stupid especially the kid who was the cause of the death of harambe the kid is stupid and the parents did not do a great job looking for the kid the kid was 3 really hate thefact that haramabe was killed since the zoo kepper could have jumped in the cage and grab the boy and get them get him upthere BUT NO NO NO STUPID ZOOKEEPER DECIDE HEY IM GONNA KILL HARAMABE INSTEAD OF GETTING THE KID OUT LIKE GETTING A ROPE OR PULLING THE KID UP TO THE SURFACE

    Jim Button
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parent reaction would be jump in and make an escape possible for my kid and let the ape beat me to death, but hey guess you americans like to watch your kids die and just act tough in the media /comments...

    Tim Tempest
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Insanity..the ape was definitely looking out for the child,the child was not on any real danger..

    siddharth kumar
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can one blame the gorilla, the article is well written, after the kid was ‘G, handled and the gorilla shot.!! A four year old gets into an enclosure .. that’s the statement of the year .. “ don’t the wild protect their own species from predators” , and this was a enclosure, where was the mum, why did a human leave a four year old unattended.. well apparently the law pardoned the negligence of the mother and silenced an specie for its nature ...I’m pretty sure the mum has some time to produce another and still be negligent, .. if you can’t handle your life don’t have an offspring and end an another life because of ones own stupidity .

    Russ Hamilton
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The kid was in imminent danger, the question was how much more risk should they have put the child in? The answer is none...

    Gregory Zernovak
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was really trying to help the kid but he probably wasn’t very good at it yet. He should’ve died peacefully.

    Sa-nai Alicea
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    harambe did not know what he was doing maybe he thought the kid was food but if they trankalized him he and the kid would of died.

    John-Del
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Finally someone with brains *and* common sense explaining what happened.

    Tavius Gray
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    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    plus i did reasearch now look up why didnt they use tranq dart... he is dum i did me own testz HE IS LIAR AND NEEDS EXCUSE i wish magic were real then i could bring back harambe. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)━☆゚.*・。゚ 🦍👻

    Potatoe Man
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I honestly think it wasn't the child's fault because he was a three year old, but I blame the mother for being negligent and the zoo since a f*****g three year old could climb into the enclosure and kill our lord harambe. #heilharambe

    NewsZane999
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    its ridiculous. the parents of that kid were probably some sort of irresponsible teen parents. Harambe shouldnt have dide :( R.I.P

    Sebaai Mansour Naggar
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't you think that the idiots supervising that child, or the child himself had this coming? Their genes should've ended right then and there, they aren't survivors, they're idiots, and if that f*****g idiot kid didn't die this time, he'd die the next in an even more stupid accident.

    el flesh
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's a CHILD you DUMBASS. Here's a news flash: children don't think RATIONALLY, s**t for brains! Evidently, neither do you!

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    Melissa Trevino
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey Julia can i use the photos on you're article for a class project.

    Taylor Crews
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I still don't understand: how did the damn kid fall in the f****ing enclosure?!!,

    Cora Goldie
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wouldn't have happened if the Gorillas were in the wild where they should be. I understand that some zoos are used when the species are endangered and they try to minimise the extinction but that does not mean that they should be exposed to human ignorance by letting people visit them. The job is to save the animals not to make a show out of them.

    Daniel Hofstetter
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While true, adding that the zoo has lost a cash cow kind of put a damper on the Rest of what she said. Should have left that out as it made her praise and supposed appreciation of Harambe less genuine sounding.

    Ethan Karlovcec
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and matt garner we all should move on ur right its in the past nothing we can do to stop it from happening now...

    Ethan Karlovcec
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    matt garner ur right lets all move on srsly though its in the past now, nothing we can do to stop it we dont have a time machine dont we....

    Jigyasa Dhammapal
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No doubt fault is Zoo and ofParents both. Could have saved one life. But just pay attention - What If ???? Child would have got hurt ???? There would have been stories again and I guess worse than current stories. So it was a decision for a lesser harm- and that was made to save life of prominent species. No male gorilla take care of kids - that's job of females there too.

    el flesh
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, you racist walking turd, it's because the uneducated stupid crowd screamed their heads off, as if it would help anything. A crowd you would have evidently fit right into given the stupidity you write. And before you even start, I'm a middle aged white male. LowIntellect AnalSphincter.

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    Hicham Elothemany
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Blind f...ing parents.. I don't know why some couple chose to have kids when they are not mature enough and responsible enough to handle them..

    1saljd
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Human vs. anima in captivity. The offender is the animal ... Do the human is the abuser. People convict that stupid family - kid included!

    Sue Barr
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope the parents relise that it is there fault that this happened and an endangered gorilla died. I hope they are ashamed that they are unable to take care of a child.

    Lucie Ke
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, parents MUST hold on to their little kids, if you cannot control your child then DON'T take them to zoos. I haven't heard if the father was present, but the mother at the very least should pay restitutions for the death of this gorilla and for the fact she had NO control over her child. You can't really blame zoo for this as it never happened before and NO amount of protections is fool proof

    Paula Thompson
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As many fingers that are pointing blame that's how many prayers we should be praying that this little one can overcome being traumatized by this situation. I'm sure the zoo will reconsider and reconstruct the enclosure. The mother has not only suffered her own judgement but thousands of others as we as a society think we have the right to judge others. We have thousands of men and women fighting and losing there lives to give us our freedom! Is this the best we can do with this freedom? We are better than this...

    came0630 came0630
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know nothing, the zoo had a statement saying that it was a secure cage and yet the mother was not around to stop the kid from figure out how to get in, think about.

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    Phillip Williams
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1769670299986634&id=100008310425992

    Liz K
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All they had to do was give the gorilla some food that contained the tranquilizer and then there would be no problem scaring the gorilla with a dart.

    Liz K
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They could have fed the gorilla with food that contained the tranquilizer. Then there would have been no dart to scare him.

    Joanne Goyen
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously people, everyone with kids have at sometime removed there eyes from there child for a few seconds at one point in their life, so don't tell me that you have not. Kids are fast, it dosnt take long before they can disappear. Yes the enclosure should have been more secure, but the boy got in. Now think people for just one second, if that was your child dragged along in the water with a gorilla, double the size of any human wouldn't you want them to do anything possible and necessary to keep them safe. Would you really want to just take a chance and hope for the best. This isn't about killing an animal, it's about saving a little child's life. If that was my child in there I would shoot any animal that put my child's life at risk. The zoo just dosnt shoot animals. Seriously people grow up, stop crapping on about animal rights and think about a child's life. If you still think that they did wrong, I suggest you don't have kids.

    Nyleve McCleveland
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think authorities used the right protocol to diffuse the situation.. For everyone complaining if u happen yo fall in the hands of a gorilla, lion or tiger I will be sure to use a tranquilizer gun and much prayer!

    Angela Valdez
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I say some parents and zoo the parents didn't watch their child as they should have and the zoo should have better barriers so kids can't get through them!

    Teresita De Castro
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the parents responsibilities to watch their kids while visiting the zoo.I don't think that gorilla will harm the kid he try to protect the boy like its family but because the parents and visitors scream the gorilla panick so the tendency is move and drag or carry the boy. It's party to be blame are the parents and the zookeeper who should put more protection to this gorilla area and big sign watch your children

    David Kesinger
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is one lady's opinion. Ten zoo keepers, like Supreme Court justices, would have ten different opinions. She may be right, she may be wrong, who really knows? Tragic, either way.

    Laurie Balliet-Tice
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe it was unfortunate accident something everybody can learn don't cast the first stone is unfortunate either way

    Valerie Sims
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I totally agree with Crystal Rose, the zoo should have been very well protected with suitable fencing, and the parents shouldhave been in better control of their child. Very sad, but reading more today, can understand they did what they had to do. Its a case of being in trouble whatever decision they made.

    Bonnie Russell
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To all the "perfect" parents who are pointing their fingers at the mother of a 3 year old: Have you ever dropped your toddler's hand for just a second to reach into your purse for something and had said toddler make a break for the road? Have you ever had a 3 year old squirm out of your grasp? No? Never? Liar!

    Crystie Campbell
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The parents or guardian should've been watching the child, if they was watching him how did he get in with the gorilla in the 1st place

    Lorraine LeBlanc
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a mother who has taken her child to the zoo many times I have to say even when holding a childs hand they can move so fast to see something they want to. Who's to say if the mother was negligent or not. It was an accident, a very sad accident but an accident no the less pointing fingers does not take away the fact that it happened . People need to be aware and cautious. BUT ALSO KIND.

    Vickie Foglesong
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No zoos. Animals in the wild where they belong. Take a safari go to the jungle or where ever to see them. Case closed and nobody would be in the wrong. ya think.

    Vickie Foglesong
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    4why not just leave the animals in the wild where they belong and if you want to see them go to the jungle or take a safari. Case solved and nobody is right or wrong. Ya think.

    Deborah Cottam Barton
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Think everyone can learn by this, no one knows how to deal with a dangerous situation until it happens, most definately both sides to blame, so instead of trying to prosecute, we should support and get the message across, keep your kids close,, and zoos to make extra security in and around dangerous animals, ????

    JamieMelissa Travis
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the mother of the child should have been paying more attention to him and could this have been staged for a lawsuit? ??? Maybe cause the little boy had to go through 4 things before he got to where he could jump, now someone please explain why someone didn't try to stop the child or Hillary for help before he got to where he could jump???????

    Elaine Calder
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think Harambe wanted to harm the child, If he did he would have killed the boy instantly I do think Harambe was protecting the little boy. As far as I am concerned the Gorilla should have not lost his life and yes I do blame the his mother rip Harambe what a shame.

    Sage Ra
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    smart speech and move by the zoo to deflate the growing discontent.

    Carole Gagne
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this entire situation is sad...and frustrating on many levels...only prevention would have saved the life of this gorilla...a more attentive parent and I suppose better zoo enclosure. Yet, it is true that a gorilla with a child in its enclosure becomes like an erratic human( and some of those humans need to be shot to protect whomever they are holding to "intimidate" others.

    Tammy Stroud
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i agree crystal no 1 should beable 2 get in there or out 4 that matter sad but know 1 knows wat harambe woulda did .rip

    Luci Skye
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is another reason why we shouldn't have zoos in the first place. Animals should not be encaged for humans entertainment.

    Jenny Waterhouse
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This beautiful wild animal should never have been in an enclosure in the first place. Keeping animals in "enclosures" for humans entertainment is a questionable practice.

    Lydia Harlow
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with Crystal Rose. both at fault. however, I think that going to zoo's and malls and crowed busy places it should be one on one with child and adult . in many cases this cant happen, so......... use one of those leashies that are made for this reason. and ppl should keep their mouths SHUT to the ppl who use them this would not have happened if ppl would go the extra mile to keep kids safe and secure.

    Linda Blake
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND PLAIN ENGLISH THE ZOO WAS NOT IN ANY WAY AT FAULT FOR THE IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY OF an uncaring adult and that's what we have here if the kid was supervised this would NOT have happened put the blame where it belongs on the PARENTS oh great idiot ones

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    Margaret Yates
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The zoo keeper said in this article that they would not tranquilize Harembe because 1.. the drug would take too long but at that time the boy was safe and not being harmed so, they had to wait but could still be watching the animal... 2.. Haremaba could have fallen and drowned, really well in my opinion it would have been better than shooting him, at least he would have stood a chance of survival and 3.. If they had shot him he could have fallen on the boy which also could have happened when they shot him... dead. She said he was just showing off in front of the crowd, I've seen Gorilla's do the same thing with their own babies, he would not have hurt him, the zoo keeper said he would not have hurt him, Gorilla's are kind, gentle creatures, if he had intended to harm the little boy he would have done it straight away

    Patti Barrett
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wild animals shouldn't be in ANY enclosure! They should be left alone to live in peace.

    Paul Nathe
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Really tragic. Animals need better protection from intruders into their space in zoos. Trained athletes should attempt intrusion, to find the weak links. Like the horrendous failures at the TSA, I suspect these 'testers' will find many, many places that people, especially little ones, will penetrate, and risk the lives of the animals.

    Lynn Duzink
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The child is fine. Why don't you all chip in for the gorillas funeral

    Tracy Buening
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was an "accident" or they would be called an "on purposes "....A 4 year old still doesn't understand consequences of behavior, like don't crawl under there you'll fall into a gorillas pit! Come on now....The Zoo should of better protected their animals, that's their JOB. They failed. The parents were not at fault, the little boy was not at fault and a horrible fact that the gorilla was NOT at fault. The Zoo was at fault.

    Betsy Everett
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I CN POINT FINGERS AT THE STUPID WOMAN WHO DIDNT KEEP HER KID ON A LEASH OR IN A FRIGGEN STROLLER! I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT KIDS AGE AND YOU CAN BET YOU BALLSACK THAT SHE'D F****N BE IN A STROLLER OR ON A HARNESS!

    Michelle Diaz-Cummings
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh and the lost of revenue don't forget from last few sentences. Wow ain't that the truth dumbasses

    Denise Dunn
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG, we need to learn from this. Mistakes are learning tools. Yes a better enclosure, and no its no ones fault. Accidents happen every moment of our lives. This King of Animals was a risk, and they assessed well and worked fast. Please really pointing fingers and stateing the obvious is not solving anything , just stirring the pot. Let's be knowledgeable. I'm glad see in news, good info. Just stop dirtying the waters, parenting is not perfect science for every child, and parenting a Gorrilla is not either, ugh ....OK feel vented.

    Bianca Meglio
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cincinnati-zoo-gorilla-harambe-boy-animal-behaviour-experts-question-shooting-silverback-video-a7057371.html

    Candice Goddard
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be honest from the level of ignorance about zoos ie Zoological societies that work for the *conservation* of animals, it seems clear that the objections to the male gorilla being shot to protect a human toddler are less about the "beautiful animal" and more about inhumanity and racism. If people care about animals so much, why don't they know anything about Zoos? Do these people object to urbanisation which can cause the very habitat loss that puts these animals in danger in the first place? Do you eat meat? Do you live independent from your family? Do you use communication technology? Do you know how any of this impacts animals? If you're not willing to live in the jungle with pre-farming stone age technology STFU.

    Bear Bo
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I blame the child's parents. They obviously weren't watching their child properly. When there is danger about, you watch your children MORE CLOSELY, not less so. Only a MORON wouldn't protect their children around danger. Only a moron would think they were 100% safe in such situations. I'm an intelligent parent and would have paid MORE attention to my children when near any level of danger. These people need to be charged with negligence and endangering a child.

    Makena Wright
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if anything it was the parents fault cuz if they were watching him he wouldn't of climbed in there

    Sam Dordoni
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The 4 year old kid got in the moat in a split second? if so, the kid should be training US Army Delta Force. Harambe belongs free in Africa, and put the kid's mother on exhibit.... if she don't think so. would she repeat her behavior?

    Sam Dordoni
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the child disappeared in a split second in the moat, he should be training Delta force during the week and Navy Seals on the weekends. Harambe belongs free in Africa, and the kid's mother belongs caged.

    tactalnuke101
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it has been confirmed by the American zoo federation that harmbie was trying to injure the child he deserved to die humans are supreme

    Joyce Du Pont
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was just an accident. Calm down, that poor mother is being judged by the whole world. It's hypocritical

    Michael Smith
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is an evaluation by a prior zookeeper that is given general directions on animals within their jurisdiction. Do not make the mistake the comments given here as an expert opinion on animal behavior, because they are not. These comments are structured to address public outcry and are directed to human psychological concerns rather than the problem at hand

    Jim Heckman
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I might have known it was a black child. More unsupervised illegitimate children

    Kellie Hale-Fischer
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have kids and i know i don't take my eyes or hands off my kids... They don't deserve to have kids in my opinion!!

    Linda Blake
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All you idiots blaming the zoo the kid is4 where in the hell is the supervision and control of that kid you all are refering to other zoos I thought we were talking about this one if that kid wasn't supervised in this situation I can only imagine how he is supervised at home NOT at all and from the looks of the picture that was put on here they look like the careless type next thing you know their going to sue the zoo for their ignorance and stupidity or maybe their lives are so boring and nonexistent they put their kid in jeopardy to get some sort of excitement and don't jump me happens everyday some we hear about and the majority we don't so think about it the zoo was NOT at fault for the lack of supervision put a leash on the boy hands were made for holding they might want to try that or just anything to keep the boy safe or take parenting classes where they will teach you how to keep your child safe the only thing about you have to listen and do then you won't have this type of thi

    Genesis Grove
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Harambe could have killed that child in an instant if he wanted to. This "expert zookeeper's" opinion is contradicted by her very own statements about how strong gorillas are. And, sorry but not sorry, I have to defer to real ape expert, Jane Goodall, in this situation. Harambe posed no harm to the child. The child was not a threat to him. The child's parents, however, seem to be.

    Mindy Nottage
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I call b******t on this article! Harabe was raised by a human zoo keeper until he was sent to the Cincy Zoo!

    tactalnuke101
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ahem the American federation of zoos stated today that harmbie was scientifically showing hostile behavior to the child and it was not the parents fault and if u think that go f**k yourself kill all the animals hums are supreme

    Millie Cagan
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was really surprised that the little boy was not crying and pulling away. Instead, he seemed curious and compliant. I am not sure which action was better.

    Ann Hackett
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a 3 year old grand daughter and she moves like lighting I believe that little boy just slipped through the Crack and people should stop blaming his mother sad for the gorilla but human life comes first no matter....that's my take on it

    Jacob Boudreau
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    8 years ago

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    if my kid fell into a pit with a gorilla, yead, id shoot the f****r dead too, even if the gorilla wasnt gonna hurt the kid, no one knew for sure and there was a childs life in the balance. no matter how much you know about animals they are unpredictable, the right choice was made and the boy lived, nothing here seems wrong

    Jacob Boudreau
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    8 years ago

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    you know, if my kid was in there, if shoot the gorilla, no matter how much of a proffessional you are on animals, sometimes, you can just never know what happens, and when theres a childs life in the balance, the right choice was made and the boy is alive for it

    Patricia Fitch
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    8 years ago

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    Michelle Lancaster
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just imagine the opposite headline. Toddler killed by gorilla. Zoo keepers take no action in their wait and see tactic. Lawsuit pending.

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    Crystal Rose
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The enclosure should have been better protected for these reasons. The mother of the child was negligent. RIP Harambe.

    Melody Lanzatella
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I fault the zoo AND the parents. If a 4 year old could gain access to that moat, the enclosure was woefully inadequate.

    Cindy Lasher-Adkins
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wild animals need tight enclosures I blame some to parent and some to zoo for not having it secure if the kid got in what's stopping the silverback from finding same hole and getting out remember these are wild they need concrete and safe fences

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    Rita Nelson
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw a report on the enclosure yesterday and it was said by someone who went to see it that is would have been very difficult to get in to the enclosure to the Gorilla because there were several barriers to get by to get in there. That child must have been gone for quite some time to get into a situation to see that Gorilla, which he wanted to do. Very Sad!

    Lou Wow
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Am I the only one thinking gorillas are endangered but humans well....arent?

    Laura Lee Etmanski
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Soooo we should sit by and watch a child die because we have lots.of them? Why not feed you to lions. Too many of us anyway. Seriously? Sad state of the human species.

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    Lee Porter
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Amazing how its the Zoos fault yet they have been there for 42 YEARS and this has NEVER happened before, its the MOTHERS fault PERIOD

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    Ana Weyland
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Explanations are very wise and very sensible, but the gorilla is dead and he shouldn't be.

    EiramAnna GB
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so what is better, save a gorilla or save the child? We have different take on the situation. But for now let us move on from here. ..

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    Dina Obrien
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ITS THE MOTHER AND FATHERS FAULT THAT HARAMBE WAS KILLED THEY SHOULD OF KEPT A BETTER EYE ON THERE CHILD

    Rene P.
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if the animal is "so" dangerous why is it in the zoo. Oh to protect him you say. but doesn't look like you doing a good job! let them be free. they are not clowns or objects for display.

    Rita Nelson
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw a report on the enclosure yesterday and it was said the enclosures were very secure and would have been very difficult to get to that Gorilla, which means the child had to have been gone for some time to figure that out. He really wanted to be by that Gorilla. All around SAD.

    j
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sucks... The kid could've grown up with a fascination of our evolutionary cousins and may have helped with conservation efforts and lived his life as a scientist helping us understand what we as apes are... But now he'll no doubt grow up with a fear of our Great Ape cousins, we lost another bright, curious mind to parental negligence and fear-induced ignorance (the traumatic experience of this will probably make him fear non-human apes for the rest of his life, only appreciating them in the abstract...) I feel equally bad for the child as I do the gorilla. Poor kid... Also bless the female gorilla that somehow hasn't gotten any publicity for taking the child and gently carrying him away and protecting him from perceived danger to the exit of the enclosure. Harambe might not be the heroic martyr we think he is, but there was one heroic ape in the enclosure (not including the humans present, especially considering the reason this went so badly was because of the humans agitating Harambe

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    Thijs Spies
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These are all lies, Harambe is a national hero and the savior of the human race. He should be remembered by everyone and kids should learn about him at school, just like they learn about heroes like George Washington and Ben Franklin. Harambe, we will miss u always. RIP to the GOAT

    Maximilian Schrott
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    5 years ago

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    You're a delusional moron and this was just another dumb gorilla that is only discussed because libtards like you cry about

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    Timmy Burleson II
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So basically the zoo is trying to come up with b******t reasons and excuses to try and cover their assed and justify what they did what a joke

    j
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's an explanation of why shooting Harambe was the only way out of this situation as soon as people started screaming and throwing things and agitating the 400-pound silverback... It's not a justification, it's an explanation for why things had to go down the way they did as soon as the onlookers crossed a line and agitated the gorilla. I love how people who have no idea how this s**t works are always the ones to be the most critical. Same mfs to ask someone why they don't just do a 360 spin and a double backflip and shoot someone in the kneecap instead of the chest to disable them instead of kill them, lol... Just dumb...

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    Bunny Durant
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I blame parents where were they when kid got in cage?????????????????

    Janet Dalton
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the mother had been watching the child as she should have there would have been no need to kill that poor animal . What was the mother doing that she didn't notice her son was missing

    shraddha pawar
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SHUT DOWN the zoo's. Shut down every f*****g zoo on this entire planet. Caging animals is stupid af! Let them f*****g be FREE to breathe where they belong. If people are so desperate to WATCH them then let them have GUTS in A*s to go the jungles and see them. They aren't an object of entertainment !!! bastard humans!!! :O :O purposefully or without any purpose, they KILLED an innocent creature and that's what making my heart break into pieces. :O

    K L
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the f**k is it with this dumb a*s anti-zoo b******t. In some cases, their natural habitat is more dangerous than the zoo. In some cases, these animals need human intervention to even live in the wild. In the end, your white knighting b******t doesn't even do anything. F*****g do your research before you go on your high and mighty b******t.

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    Lisa Easley
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    that's why you watch your kid at the zoo they are around wild animals. Wonder if a kid napper took the kid? Anyone could leave with your child that's why you watch them. Too bad a beautiful animal had to die because a bas a@@ kid did not listen to his mother.. OK the another busy with another kid where was the dad? Was its the Zoos fault the kjd went over the rail? ummm I think not. because if the parents even half you know what even tried to watch the little boy would we even be talking about this?

    Jimmy Jeppesen
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same old same old... So were talking about a humans life is worth more than a silverback mountain male gorilla which btw is an endangered species with only 790 left in the wild. Human population worldwide 7,4 billion. Its not the animals that need to be locked up so were safe from them , we need to be locked up so the animals are safe. FTW

    Candice Goddard
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What I find amazing is that people who feel like this never make themselves extinct in order to protect the lives of the animals they are championing, sometimes such people aren't even vegans, making sure not to use any products in any way sourced by animals. That's hypocrisy. If you feel like that, give up your life for animals. Go and work out so you're muscular (muscle is meat) then travel to the polar region and preach to a polar bear. They're endangered too and could use a nice meal.

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    Sujay Pillai
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm amazed that no one thinks animals should never be kept in a zoo. It's wrong no matter how well they are taken care of. No human would like to be kept in captivity. The argument is made that this helps spread awareness and raise money, but all this could be done in a way as to keep the animals far removed from the visitors. Go on a damned safari if you want to see wild animals. This world is full of national parks with animals in their natural habitat. Either way the gorilla is dead through no fault of its own and if we replace him with a human being the injustice of it would be clear to all of us.

    Kim Chi
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most animals in zoos are being bred because they are endangered and losing their habitat. What many people don't realize is Zoos don't just display animals they breed them for release in the wild to repopulate endangered populations. Zoos have save many animals including animals that are no longer able to survive in the wild on their own. Look at the Panda. When I was a kid in the 80's we were told that Panda's would be extinct in 10 year. Then San Diego Zoo and China got together and changed everything. Now we have Pandas. Pandas can't survive on their own because for some reason they've devolve as a species and reproduction is extremely difficult but Zoos saved the animal. Same can be said for Ring Tailed Lemurs. Another animal that was critically endangered in the 80's. The Los Angeles Zoo had one of the biggest breeding programs and helped repopulate the Lemurs. Now Lemurs have no home due to forest destruction. Zoos are saving them as a species.

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    Radical Musoka
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    a good reasoning should start with human's hubris ... enclosing a living being... disposing of his life as they want... just take a moment and ponder how all "inhuman" act are made by "humans"...

    Ana Weyland
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the first place, the child should not have been exposed to any danger by his parents. As this was not the situation, EVERYTHING should have been done to save both, the boy and Harambe. I don't know whether the child was really in danger - I was not there and can only comment from the video. But I have personally seen a large animal tranquilised by means of a dart and it doesn't take that long for the animal to lose conscience. This is a sensitive matter and each one of us has an opinion. I'm probably wrong, but this is what I feel deep down.

    Megan Gaynes
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have seen multiple animals darted — they absolutely do NOT go down easily and can be very dangerous in the process. Your own anecdotal experience is irrelevant.

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    Ann Shonia
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    beauitiful animal was killed because b***h couldn't pay enough attention to her child :@

    blugeagua
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't just blame the mother. The father was there too and didn't keep watch of his child. And there's no need for such misogynist language.

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    Lisa Shinn
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It still breaks my heart that humans locked this incredible, ENDANGERED, magnificent fellow species in a CAGE (because humans are too selfish to share the planet with their fellow earthlings) then when a negligent human allows their child to gain access to this animals captive home the innocent animal loses his life!!!! At the very least the parents should have been charged with child endangerment and the zoo should have sued them (not that you can put a price on Harambes life as it was priceless especially to him) for the loss of their beloved gorilla! As a species that has over populated and destroys and rapes the planet for our selfish egotistical "wants" i have to admit it bothers me more that the gorilla was murdered for simply being a gorilla then if the human hadn't survived.

    Theresa Tzitzira
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    when an interaction between a human and an animal turns out the wrong way and disaster hits, it is always the animal that pays the price of the humans being careless, negligent or superficial...

    Dawn Prince-Hughes
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have worked with gorillas since 1986. It has taken me all these years to have the stomach to read this article. As i knew without even watching the film of Harambe's murder, screaming humans with no reflexivity or self control killed this man. He should have been in the wilds of his own land, to begin with. Zoos are slavery. Secondly, because we see oo animals as removed entertainment, like little tvs, humans at the scene didn't know how to comport themselves in a way that ensured a better outcome. I will never believe that Harambe would have killed this child. His death was murder. period. I only wish I had been there to take the bullet for him.

    Please Dont
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    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They could have worked to quiet and disperse the crowd... instead they focused on the animal and murdered him. They should have had workers moving the idiotic screaming people. Now a beautiful animal is lost "for the sake" of some typical child. The zookeeper only addresses the part that the gorilla was trying to protect the child, but even if thats not the case, that doesn't follow that the killing the gorilla was justified. If the crowds have been moved, the gorilla would have also calmed down. Our society would be more benefited by killing the offspring of idiotic screaming parents.

    Please Dont
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    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Zookeeper: Well he wasn't trying to protect the child, he was trying to frighten the crazy crowd away Other person if this was a convo and not a statement: ... that doesn't explain why you shot him....

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    Katrina Tsao
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ok. WHY DO PEOPLE THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO IMPRISON ANY ANIMAL IN A ZOO? HUMANS LAUGH OUTSIDE WHILE THE POOR ANIMALS CRY FOR THEIR WILD ANCESTORS INSIDE! Harambe was innocent! I LOATHE THE PERSON WHO SAID THIS ARTICLE! I can't understand why humans have to hate animals so much. IF PEOPLE DO NOT CAPTURE ANIMALS THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!!!

    K L
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you're an actual idiot. you need to do research on why zoos exist in the first place and not put your dumbass morality in play. Zoos exist to protect animals and conserve them.

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    NewsZane999
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    idiot parents of the kid i say probably some irresponsible parent.Harambe shouldnt have died :( R.I.P rip-58d7cb...953f6b.jpg rip-58d7cb7953f6b.jpg

    Jordin Agnew
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Zoo Keeper is an idiot and total moron. She gives the reason for not using a tranquilizer as "Harambe would have drowned in the water possibly trapping the boy beneath him"..... Is she really this f*****g stupid? Shooting him with a gun will make him dead in the water possibly trapping the boy beneath him? Like what the f**k? Does the zookeeper have s**t for brains?

    Josh Kubiak
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should have shot the parents as well as shut down the zoo permanently. They dont deserve to operate if this is the best they can do. RIP 100% completely innocent animal. Pathetic.

    Toby Reeve
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry but the dragging movement used by harambe matches the one of the movement mothers of gorillas use to move them. At the start of the video harambe placed him self in front of the child. As seen in 1986 when a 3 year old boy falls into a gorilla Inclosure the gorilla places him self between the boy and the other gorillas( notice the mirroring of action between him and hamambe) that 450 lbs male did nothing but try to protect the boys as harambe did. The zoo was wrong for shoting a animal the was trying to help what they saw as the victim.

    el flesh
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, the zoo was right - but it was ONLY made so because the stupid crowd screamed their heads off like a bunch if idiots. If they had kept quiet and not panicked like brainless sheep, the situation would have likely turned out much better like it did in 1986 in Australia.

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    Saurian Tyrannosaurus rex
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i heard people say it's one of the ways of transporting their infants The manual “Management of Gorillas in Captivity” lists dragging as a method gorillas use to transport infants. Those methods include: 1) arm walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while the infant sat in one palm and held onto her arm; 2) crutch walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while holding her infant in her lap and used her arms as crutches; 3) drag --a mother walked tripedally while the infant was held in one hand away from the body; 4) leg walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while the infant held onto her rear leg. @ gorillassp.org/MembersSection/MembersOnlyForms/Gorilla%20Husbandry%20Manual.pdf#65

    Parth Girme
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the end did she say loss or revenue for the zoo!!!! I really hope I'm misunderstanding something here.

    Katinka Min
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the mothers fault!!!! It's the zoo's fault!!! Sometimes, different factors just come together in an awful fashion. It's called an 'accident' If anybody is at fault, it is stupid humans who feel it necessary to pack wild animals into enclosed spaces to they can gape and wave at them.

    Just A Girl
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not just the zoo's fault, and not just the parents fault. It's both.

    Karen Lunsford
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    PARENTS NEED TO WATCH THERE CHILDREN AND THEY MUST TAKE CARE OF WHAT THERE CHILDREN RE DOING

    Kendra Merithew
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First I have to say I m glad the child is safe as he is not at fault for this. His neglectful self absorbed mother with more kids then she can handle is. That being said since the crowd was agitating Harambe to the point that he felt the need to posture, my question would be was any attempt made to get the screaming idiots evacuated from the area first? This alone may have been able to help calm Harambe enough to try to tempt him with some other things he may like and possibly save both. This enclosure has been more then sufficient for all this time and I have to agree with many others that said it took more then a few minutes for the child to get in. Also the little child was overheard telling his mom that he wanted to go in. Instead of just telling him no she should have either left the area with him or made him hold her hand. But silly me the photos to social media are so much more important then watching your child.(sarcasm intended,)

    Lisa Flynn
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, the boy should not have been able to get over the enclosure. But after saying several times that he was going in the mother should have never turned her back away from him. Harambe was only doing what he knew to do . The zoo and the parents share the blame for the boy getting into the enclosure and harambe owns none of it.

    Michelle Diaz-Cummings
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay well here's the deal zookeepers, if you know them so well,and he was getting agitated because of people yelling out, why not let these people who should've instinctively known to stfu, to stfu?And isn't this pic sweet of her to be lovingly feeding him through a fence. My god, if you love him get him to his "real" home.The only reason people are blaming the zoo is not because the zoo exists but because the enclosures aren't full proof? I'm sick

    Maximilian Schrott
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're a moron to expect zoos to control masses like this to not scream. Even if you teach people to be calm and how to get to safety in dangerous situation, when that actually happens most will panic and be anything but calm and not save themselves. People scream in panic, that's just how it is. Also zoo existance is fine, but the enclosures should be protected better AND the dumb mom should watch her child, go away scrawny hippie

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    Leighth
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Really really angers me. Cincinnati Zoo looks like a dump and they treat the inhabitants even deadlier.

    Ikemsinachi Okpareke
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    UR A FRIKIN ZOO SO GET FRIKIN TRANGQUILIZERS harambe didnt need to die also what kind of parents would let their 3 year old get in a frikin enclosure??? what kind of mom are you???? thats like letting your child just, die!!!! WTF?!!??!!??!?

    Angela Braverman
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Total BS. F**k the parents They should be sued. Little a*****e! Those asshat parents are not parents at all. No respect no remorse. Ignorance.

    Angela Braverman
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    B******t! Loser mom let the brat climb all over! Family should be sued!

    Michael Fuentes
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you believed he would’ve drowned in the moat after being tranquillized that is odd due to rapid response teams reacting same goes for the gorilla on kid situation. It played out wrong. A Gorilla was killed needlessly everyone wants to say this and that for excuses why but same as the healthcare situation now readiness was sub par so deaths occurs point the finger at everyone else not this Gorilla

    Jamieson King
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F**k off you couldve used tranquilizers cause it still wouldve stopped him

    Emmy Smith
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s so sad that the stupidity of a child took the life of a gorilla

    Julia Montalvo
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This zoo is horrible i hate them for choosing to kill. Did anyone ever thought of a tranquilizer. Right away first thought is to kill. I will never visit or sponsor any zoo. If this is what they do to these innocent animals. How about building enclosures where kids that can stay still don't fall. Dumb a*s family. I hope they get their karma. U brought an innocent animal to the zoo claiming that you're protecting them instead you killed him. What else will you be killing

    Julia Montalvo
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know what. I'm pissed at the idiot mother who didn't pay attention to that child. I'm also mad at the zoo for not child proofing the enclosure. You realize they captured a gorilla only to kill him like he was being hunted. Bunch of idiots all the zoos should be closed. It's not worth having animals to kill them. I will never go to a zoo

    steamly
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    RIP harambe I think he was protecting the child And think about it almost every day. I'm 13 and my favorite animal is any type of primate so I've looked up alot of things about monkeys and gorillas. gorillas drag there baby's to clean them or make them dry so I believe that harambe was protecting the boy and the zookeeper who shot him is a horrible human. U will be missed. RIP harambe

    August Day
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    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think harambe was trying to protect the kid not hurt him in the mother needs to watch her kids better cuz If harambe was trying to hurt the kid and that would have been back some mother isn't watching her kids and is being negligent

    August Day
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    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor harambe I think he was trying to protect the kid not hurt him.

    Tavius Gray
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    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Haramnbe was a one of a kind silverback and for no good reason he is dead RIP harambe AND WHY DID THEY NOT USE TRANQS? THAT WAY THE CHILD AND HARAMBE COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED... THEY ARE GORILLA RACIZM BRUH

    Meme Jack
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love you harambe. I remember going everytime i was at that zoo too see harambe. I have a gorilla plush called harambe to remember him. R.I.P Harambe. 1999-2016. He will be in our hearts. Forever

    el flesh
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can point a finger at the unwashed and uneducated masses who scream like they were the lower f*****g primates. WHAT GOOD DOES SCREAMING AT A GORILLA DO, S**T FOR BRAINS?!? If everybody realized they had to retreat and stay quiet, and f*****g DID it, there might have been a far different outcome. Yes the zoo and mother was at fault, but MOSTLY THE F*****G CROWD.

    DaB MEEE
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After reading all this is the STUPID zoo and parents the zoo keeper could at least think for the animals before shooting it and the parent are Not even doing anything and was negligent

    KING crovvY
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First off the enclosure's walls should have been taller than 3 feet silverbacks are going extinct and they just shot him they could have done something better than that

    Suicide Squad IX
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The parents ignored their child resulting in the death of Harambe. R.I.P

    Oliwia Dubiel
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why zoos are awful places, none of this would have taken place if the animal was left in the wild

    Kathy Platek
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think there should not be any more zoos these animals are paying the price for these unfortunate accidents

    Danny Gorman
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the zoos fault no one either a kid or idiot should be able to get into enclosures, it's happened more than once so why don't people learn????

    Sandra Kram
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So greatful to you for sharing this info. I feel sad an animal loss it's life, but I think did the right thing to protect the child. I think it's sad how much hatred was expressed to this Mother and her child. Children are curious and can get away quickly. I think it's sad how no one in the crowd could stop yelling, and thought their noise didn't make matters worse. Why aren't we getting angry at them, and putting charges up on them? Because that would be ignorant, so is trying to charge this Mother for like so many others, rough her child to a Zoo. I agree there shouldn't be a blame game, but a learning experience, to help people learn how to act in emergency, how we need better enclosures, and there is nothing wrong with putting your child on a safety harness. I so appreciate Ms. Amanda O'Dunouhughe for sharing this insightful info to the public. It is sad that so many people, that were not even there went on the attack of the Zoo, the this Mother. We shouldn't judge.

    Megan Gaynes
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mommy was yelling the entire time too. And her kids told her he was going into the gorilla’s enclosure and all she said was “no”, with no follow up. Mommy deserves charges, regardless of how naive people excuse her incompetence away.

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    Dorothy J Townsend
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I blame the zoo for having a wild animal, they need to be in there own environment, not cooped up in a zoo. They have no privacy of there own, people watching them, caretakers feeding them and etc. Zoo's should be extinct, not the animals. you may as well put them in jail, this is all the room you get. the animals are not happy. At least in a safari, they have room to roam.

    Hunklevy Meh
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hope that kid will not be a problem to society when he grows up ...

    Nicole Forester
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F this b***h shes nothing but a prison guard! She is not an animal behaviorist! She deserves the same fate as the gorilla evil troll! Seriously anyone who thinks this animal should have been gun down shouldnt be working with animals!

    Melody Haines Diaz
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The parents should of been watching their child better, because they didn't a beautiful animal had to lose his life for someone's negligence. RIP big guy.

    KatSaidWhat
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    5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty sure we can point fingers at the parents/attendees looking after the kid.

    Glen Barratt
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    9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I primarily fault Harambee for approaching and touching the boy, then I fault the generally unpredictable and sometimes aggressive nature of all gorillas. Next I fault the boy for going where he should not. Sure he was young, but it was still HIS choices that led to him getting in. They never had a Gorilla escape before so the zoo had adequate means for keeping Gorillas enclosed. The mother didn't want her child to go in. Sure she could have been more careful and I am sure she is very regretful that she wasn't, but it was the gorilla's unpredictable nature and the boy's bad choice that really are to blame. Kids constantly do stupid things. Parents cannot control the outcomes of the nearly incessant bad choices their kids make.

    Harambe Martinez
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kids are stupid especially the kid who was the cause of the death of harambe the kid is stupid and the parents did not do a great job looking for the kid the kid was 3 really hate thefact that haramabe was killed since the zoo kepper could have jumped in the cage and grab the boy and get them get him upthere BUT NO NO NO STUPID ZOOKEEPER DECIDE HEY IM GONNA KILL HARAMABE INSTEAD OF GETTING THE KID OUT LIKE GETTING A ROPE OR PULLING THE KID UP TO THE SURFACE

    Jim Button
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parent reaction would be jump in and make an escape possible for my kid and let the ape beat me to death, but hey guess you americans like to watch your kids die and just act tough in the media /comments...

    Tim Tempest
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Insanity..the ape was definitely looking out for the child,the child was not on any real danger..

    siddharth kumar
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can one blame the gorilla, the article is well written, after the kid was ‘G, handled and the gorilla shot.!! A four year old gets into an enclosure .. that’s the statement of the year .. “ don’t the wild protect their own species from predators” , and this was a enclosure, where was the mum, why did a human leave a four year old unattended.. well apparently the law pardoned the negligence of the mother and silenced an specie for its nature ...I’m pretty sure the mum has some time to produce another and still be negligent, .. if you can’t handle your life don’t have an offspring and end an another life because of ones own stupidity .

    Russ Hamilton
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The kid was in imminent danger, the question was how much more risk should they have put the child in? The answer is none...

    Gregory Zernovak
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was really trying to help the kid but he probably wasn’t very good at it yet. He should’ve died peacefully.

    Sa-nai Alicea
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    harambe did not know what he was doing maybe he thought the kid was food but if they trankalized him he and the kid would of died.

    John-Del
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Finally someone with brains *and* common sense explaining what happened.

    Tavius Gray
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    6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    plus i did reasearch now look up why didnt they use tranq dart... he is dum i did me own testz HE IS LIAR AND NEEDS EXCUSE i wish magic were real then i could bring back harambe. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)━☆゚.*・。゚ 🦍👻

    Potatoe Man
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I honestly think it wasn't the child's fault because he was a three year old, but I blame the mother for being negligent and the zoo since a f*****g three year old could climb into the enclosure and kill our lord harambe. #heilharambe

    NewsZane999
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    its ridiculous. the parents of that kid were probably some sort of irresponsible teen parents. Harambe shouldnt have dide :( R.I.P

    Sebaai Mansour Naggar
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't you think that the idiots supervising that child, or the child himself had this coming? Their genes should've ended right then and there, they aren't survivors, they're idiots, and if that f*****g idiot kid didn't die this time, he'd die the next in an even more stupid accident.

    el flesh
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's a CHILD you DUMBASS. Here's a news flash: children don't think RATIONALLY, s**t for brains! Evidently, neither do you!

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    Melissa Trevino
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey Julia can i use the photos on you're article for a class project.

    Taylor Crews
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I still don't understand: how did the damn kid fall in the f****ing enclosure?!!,

    Cora Goldie
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wouldn't have happened if the Gorillas were in the wild where they should be. I understand that some zoos are used when the species are endangered and they try to minimise the extinction but that does not mean that they should be exposed to human ignorance by letting people visit them. The job is to save the animals not to make a show out of them.

    Daniel Hofstetter
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While true, adding that the zoo has lost a cash cow kind of put a damper on the Rest of what she said. Should have left that out as it made her praise and supposed appreciation of Harambe less genuine sounding.

    Ethan Karlovcec
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and matt garner we all should move on ur right its in the past nothing we can do to stop it from happening now...

    Ethan Karlovcec
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    matt garner ur right lets all move on srsly though its in the past now, nothing we can do to stop it we dont have a time machine dont we....

    Jigyasa Dhammapal
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No doubt fault is Zoo and ofParents both. Could have saved one life. But just pay attention - What If ???? Child would have got hurt ???? There would have been stories again and I guess worse than current stories. So it was a decision for a lesser harm- and that was made to save life of prominent species. No male gorilla take care of kids - that's job of females there too.

    el flesh
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, you racist walking turd, it's because the uneducated stupid crowd screamed their heads off, as if it would help anything. A crowd you would have evidently fit right into given the stupidity you write. And before you even start, I'm a middle aged white male. LowIntellect AnalSphincter.

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    Hicham Elothemany
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Blind f...ing parents.. I don't know why some couple chose to have kids when they are not mature enough and responsible enough to handle them..

    1saljd
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Human vs. anima in captivity. The offender is the animal ... Do the human is the abuser. People convict that stupid family - kid included!

    Sue Barr
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope the parents relise that it is there fault that this happened and an endangered gorilla died. I hope they are ashamed that they are unable to take care of a child.

    Lucie Ke
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, parents MUST hold on to their little kids, if you cannot control your child then DON'T take them to zoos. I haven't heard if the father was present, but the mother at the very least should pay restitutions for the death of this gorilla and for the fact she had NO control over her child. You can't really blame zoo for this as it never happened before and NO amount of protections is fool proof

    Paula Thompson
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As many fingers that are pointing blame that's how many prayers we should be praying that this little one can overcome being traumatized by this situation. I'm sure the zoo will reconsider and reconstruct the enclosure. The mother has not only suffered her own judgement but thousands of others as we as a society think we have the right to judge others. We have thousands of men and women fighting and losing there lives to give us our freedom! Is this the best we can do with this freedom? We are better than this...

    came0630 came0630
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know nothing, the zoo had a statement saying that it was a secure cage and yet the mother was not around to stop the kid from figure out how to get in, think about.

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    Phillip Williams
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1769670299986634&id=100008310425992

    Liz K
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All they had to do was give the gorilla some food that contained the tranquilizer and then there would be no problem scaring the gorilla with a dart.

    Liz K
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They could have fed the gorilla with food that contained the tranquilizer. Then there would have been no dart to scare him.

    Joanne Goyen
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously people, everyone with kids have at sometime removed there eyes from there child for a few seconds at one point in their life, so don't tell me that you have not. Kids are fast, it dosnt take long before they can disappear. Yes the enclosure should have been more secure, but the boy got in. Now think people for just one second, if that was your child dragged along in the water with a gorilla, double the size of any human wouldn't you want them to do anything possible and necessary to keep them safe. Would you really want to just take a chance and hope for the best. This isn't about killing an animal, it's about saving a little child's life. If that was my child in there I would shoot any animal that put my child's life at risk. The zoo just dosnt shoot animals. Seriously people grow up, stop crapping on about animal rights and think about a child's life. If you still think that they did wrong, I suggest you don't have kids.

    Nyleve McCleveland
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think authorities used the right protocol to diffuse the situation.. For everyone complaining if u happen yo fall in the hands of a gorilla, lion or tiger I will be sure to use a tranquilizer gun and much prayer!

    Angela Valdez
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I say some parents and zoo the parents didn't watch their child as they should have and the zoo should have better barriers so kids can't get through them!

    Teresita De Castro
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the parents responsibilities to watch their kids while visiting the zoo.I don't think that gorilla will harm the kid he try to protect the boy like its family but because the parents and visitors scream the gorilla panick so the tendency is move and drag or carry the boy. It's party to be blame are the parents and the zookeeper who should put more protection to this gorilla area and big sign watch your children

    David Kesinger
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is one lady's opinion. Ten zoo keepers, like Supreme Court justices, would have ten different opinions. She may be right, she may be wrong, who really knows? Tragic, either way.

    Laurie Balliet-Tice
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe it was unfortunate accident something everybody can learn don't cast the first stone is unfortunate either way

    Valerie Sims
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I totally agree with Crystal Rose, the zoo should have been very well protected with suitable fencing, and the parents shouldhave been in better control of their child. Very sad, but reading more today, can understand they did what they had to do. Its a case of being in trouble whatever decision they made.

    Bonnie Russell
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To all the "perfect" parents who are pointing their fingers at the mother of a 3 year old: Have you ever dropped your toddler's hand for just a second to reach into your purse for something and had said toddler make a break for the road? Have you ever had a 3 year old squirm out of your grasp? No? Never? Liar!

    Crystie Campbell
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The parents or guardian should've been watching the child, if they was watching him how did he get in with the gorilla in the 1st place

    Lorraine LeBlanc
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a mother who has taken her child to the zoo many times I have to say even when holding a childs hand they can move so fast to see something they want to. Who's to say if the mother was negligent or not. It was an accident, a very sad accident but an accident no the less pointing fingers does not take away the fact that it happened . People need to be aware and cautious. BUT ALSO KIND.

    Vickie Foglesong
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No zoos. Animals in the wild where they belong. Take a safari go to the jungle or where ever to see them. Case closed and nobody would be in the wrong. ya think.

    Vickie Foglesong
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    4why not just leave the animals in the wild where they belong and if you want to see them go to the jungle or take a safari. Case solved and nobody is right or wrong. Ya think.

    Deborah Cottam Barton
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Think everyone can learn by this, no one knows how to deal with a dangerous situation until it happens, most definately both sides to blame, so instead of trying to prosecute, we should support and get the message across, keep your kids close,, and zoos to make extra security in and around dangerous animals, ????

    JamieMelissa Travis
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the mother of the child should have been paying more attention to him and could this have been staged for a lawsuit? ??? Maybe cause the little boy had to go through 4 things before he got to where he could jump, now someone please explain why someone didn't try to stop the child or Hillary for help before he got to where he could jump???????

    Elaine Calder
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think Harambe wanted to harm the child, If he did he would have killed the boy instantly I do think Harambe was protecting the little boy. As far as I am concerned the Gorilla should have not lost his life and yes I do blame the his mother rip Harambe what a shame.

    Sage Ra
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    smart speech and move by the zoo to deflate the growing discontent.

    Carole Gagne
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this entire situation is sad...and frustrating on many levels...only prevention would have saved the life of this gorilla...a more attentive parent and I suppose better zoo enclosure. Yet, it is true that a gorilla with a child in its enclosure becomes like an erratic human( and some of those humans need to be shot to protect whomever they are holding to "intimidate" others.

    Tammy Stroud
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i agree crystal no 1 should beable 2 get in there or out 4 that matter sad but know 1 knows wat harambe woulda did .rip

    Luci Skye
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is another reason why we shouldn't have zoos in the first place. Animals should not be encaged for humans entertainment.

    Jenny Waterhouse
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This beautiful wild animal should never have been in an enclosure in the first place. Keeping animals in "enclosures" for humans entertainment is a questionable practice.

    Lydia Harlow
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with Crystal Rose. both at fault. however, I think that going to zoo's and malls and crowed busy places it should be one on one with child and adult . in many cases this cant happen, so......... use one of those leashies that are made for this reason. and ppl should keep their mouths SHUT to the ppl who use them this would not have happened if ppl would go the extra mile to keep kids safe and secure.

    Linda Blake
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND PLAIN ENGLISH THE ZOO WAS NOT IN ANY WAY AT FAULT FOR THE IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY OF an uncaring adult and that's what we have here if the kid was supervised this would NOT have happened put the blame where it belongs on the PARENTS oh great idiot ones

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    Margaret Yates
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The zoo keeper said in this article that they would not tranquilize Harembe because 1.. the drug would take too long but at that time the boy was safe and not being harmed so, they had to wait but could still be watching the animal... 2.. Haremaba could have fallen and drowned, really well in my opinion it would have been better than shooting him, at least he would have stood a chance of survival and 3.. If they had shot him he could have fallen on the boy which also could have happened when they shot him... dead. She said he was just showing off in front of the crowd, I've seen Gorilla's do the same thing with their own babies, he would not have hurt him, the zoo keeper said he would not have hurt him, Gorilla's are kind, gentle creatures, if he had intended to harm the little boy he would have done it straight away

    Patti Barrett
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wild animals shouldn't be in ANY enclosure! They should be left alone to live in peace.

    Paul Nathe
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Really tragic. Animals need better protection from intruders into their space in zoos. Trained athletes should attempt intrusion, to find the weak links. Like the horrendous failures at the TSA, I suspect these 'testers' will find many, many places that people, especially little ones, will penetrate, and risk the lives of the animals.

    Lynn Duzink
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The child is fine. Why don't you all chip in for the gorillas funeral

    Tracy Buening
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was an "accident" or they would be called an "on purposes "....A 4 year old still doesn't understand consequences of behavior, like don't crawl under there you'll fall into a gorillas pit! Come on now....The Zoo should of better protected their animals, that's their JOB. They failed. The parents were not at fault, the little boy was not at fault and a horrible fact that the gorilla was NOT at fault. The Zoo was at fault.

    Betsy Everett
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I CN POINT FINGERS AT THE STUPID WOMAN WHO DIDNT KEEP HER KID ON A LEASH OR IN A FRIGGEN STROLLER! I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT KIDS AGE AND YOU CAN BET YOU BALLSACK THAT SHE'D F****N BE IN A STROLLER OR ON A HARNESS!

    Michelle Diaz-Cummings
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh and the lost of revenue don't forget from last few sentences. Wow ain't that the truth dumbasses

    Denise Dunn
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG, we need to learn from this. Mistakes are learning tools. Yes a better enclosure, and no its no ones fault. Accidents happen every moment of our lives. This King of Animals was a risk, and they assessed well and worked fast. Please really pointing fingers and stateing the obvious is not solving anything , just stirring the pot. Let's be knowledgeable. I'm glad see in news, good info. Just stop dirtying the waters, parenting is not perfect science for every child, and parenting a Gorrilla is not either, ugh ....OK feel vented.

    Bianca Meglio
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cincinnati-zoo-gorilla-harambe-boy-animal-behaviour-experts-question-shooting-silverback-video-a7057371.html

    Candice Goddard
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be honest from the level of ignorance about zoos ie Zoological societies that work for the *conservation* of animals, it seems clear that the objections to the male gorilla being shot to protect a human toddler are less about the "beautiful animal" and more about inhumanity and racism. If people care about animals so much, why don't they know anything about Zoos? Do these people object to urbanisation which can cause the very habitat loss that puts these animals in danger in the first place? Do you eat meat? Do you live independent from your family? Do you use communication technology? Do you know how any of this impacts animals? If you're not willing to live in the jungle with pre-farming stone age technology STFU.

    Bear Bo
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I blame the child's parents. They obviously weren't watching their child properly. When there is danger about, you watch your children MORE CLOSELY, not less so. Only a MORON wouldn't protect their children around danger. Only a moron would think they were 100% safe in such situations. I'm an intelligent parent and would have paid MORE attention to my children when near any level of danger. These people need to be charged with negligence and endangering a child.

    Makena Wright
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if anything it was the parents fault cuz if they were watching him he wouldn't of climbed in there

    Sam Dordoni
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The 4 year old kid got in the moat in a split second? if so, the kid should be training US Army Delta Force. Harambe belongs free in Africa, and put the kid's mother on exhibit.... if she don't think so. would she repeat her behavior?

    Sam Dordoni
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    7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the child disappeared in a split second in the moat, he should be training Delta force during the week and Navy Seals on the weekends. Harambe belongs free in Africa, and the kid's mother belongs caged.

    tactalnuke101
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it has been confirmed by the American zoo federation that harmbie was trying to injure the child he deserved to die humans are supreme

    Joyce Du Pont
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was just an accident. Calm down, that poor mother is being judged by the whole world. It's hypocritical

    Michael Smith
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is an evaluation by a prior zookeeper that is given general directions on animals within their jurisdiction. Do not make the mistake the comments given here as an expert opinion on animal behavior, because they are not. These comments are structured to address public outcry and are directed to human psychological concerns rather than the problem at hand

    Jim Heckman
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I might have known it was a black child. More unsupervised illegitimate children

    Kellie Hale-Fischer
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have kids and i know i don't take my eyes or hands off my kids... They don't deserve to have kids in my opinion!!

    Linda Blake
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All you idiots blaming the zoo the kid is4 where in the hell is the supervision and control of that kid you all are refering to other zoos I thought we were talking about this one if that kid wasn't supervised in this situation I can only imagine how he is supervised at home NOT at all and from the looks of the picture that was put on here they look like the careless type next thing you know their going to sue the zoo for their ignorance and stupidity or maybe their lives are so boring and nonexistent they put their kid in jeopardy to get some sort of excitement and don't jump me happens everyday some we hear about and the majority we don't so think about it the zoo was NOT at fault for the lack of supervision put a leash on the boy hands were made for holding they might want to try that or just anything to keep the boy safe or take parenting classes where they will teach you how to keep your child safe the only thing about you have to listen and do then you won't have this type of thi

    Genesis Grove
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Harambe could have killed that child in an instant if he wanted to. This "expert zookeeper's" opinion is contradicted by her very own statements about how strong gorillas are. And, sorry but not sorry, I have to defer to real ape expert, Jane Goodall, in this situation. Harambe posed no harm to the child. The child was not a threat to him. The child's parents, however, seem to be.

    Mindy Nottage
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I call b******t on this article! Harabe was raised by a human zoo keeper until he was sent to the Cincy Zoo!

    tactalnuke101
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ahem the American federation of zoos stated today that harmbie was scientifically showing hostile behavior to the child and it was not the parents fault and if u think that go f**k yourself kill all the animals hums are supreme

    Millie Cagan
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was really surprised that the little boy was not crying and pulling away. Instead, he seemed curious and compliant. I am not sure which action was better.

    Ann Hackett
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a 3 year old grand daughter and she moves like lighting I believe that little boy just slipped through the Crack and people should stop blaming his mother sad for the gorilla but human life comes first no matter....that's my take on it

    Jacob Boudreau
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    8 years ago

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    if my kid fell into a pit with a gorilla, yead, id shoot the f****r dead too, even if the gorilla wasnt gonna hurt the kid, no one knew for sure and there was a childs life in the balance. no matter how much you know about animals they are unpredictable, the right choice was made and the boy lived, nothing here seems wrong

    Jacob Boudreau
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    8 years ago

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    you know, if my kid was in there, if shoot the gorilla, no matter how much of a proffessional you are on animals, sometimes, you can just never know what happens, and when theres a childs life in the balance, the right choice was made and the boy is alive for it

    Patricia Fitch
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    8 years ago

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    Michelle Lancaster
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    8 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just imagine the opposite headline. Toddler killed by gorilla. Zoo keepers take no action in their wait and see tactic. Lawsuit pending.

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