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12 Y.O. Gets Mad After Aunt Tells Her To Stop Making Mom’s Life Harder, Internet Is On Her Side
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12 Y.O. Gets Mad After Aunt Tells Her To Stop Making Mom’s Life Harder, Internet Is On Her Side

12 Y.O. Gets Mad After Aunt Tells Her To Stop Making Mom’s Life Harder, Internet Is On Her SideAunt Tells Niece To Calm Down And Support Tired Parents Over Drama With Neurodivergent Brother“AITA For Telling My 12-Year-Old Niece To Not Make Life Any Harder For Her Mum?”Parents Of Neurodivergent Son Put Daughter On The Back Burner On Her Bday, She Turns To Her AuntGirl Upset Brother Ruined Her B-Day, Turns To Aunt For Help But Gets Schooled To Suck It UpWoman Sees Sister Struggling With Parenting, Tries To Teach Niece To Be Less DifficultInternet Blasts Woman For Telling Niece Not To Make Life Harder For Parents Of Neurodivergent Son12 Y.O. Blames Parents For Brother Eating Her B-Day Cupcakes, Aunt Says She’s Being “Difficult”Woman Asks If She’s A Jerk For Teaching Her 12-Year-Old Niece To “Suck It Up” On Her B-Day
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Being a sibling to a neurodivergent person can be challenging. As parents have a lot on their plate with the ND sibling, the neurotypical one can often get overlooked. Research shows that adolescents who have a neurodivergent sibling have more stress and anxiety. This can be true for younger children as well, as shown by the story we’re covering here.

In it, a 12-year-old daughter felt a lack of support from her parents when her neurodivergent brother ate the cupcakes that were meant for her birthday at school. Upset and not knowing what to do, the girl reached out to her aunt for help. And while she did help, she also said something that people online called her out for.

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A neurodivergent brother ate the cupcakes that were meant for his sister’s birthday at school

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The girl was furious and asked her aunt for help, who told her to cut her parents some slack, as they were having a hard time as is

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Neurotypical siblings need social support, one-on-one time with their parents, and respect

Many neurotypical siblings are still children when they have to take on the role of a carer for their neurodivergent sibling. That’s why parents should inform them about autism but also respect them so they can be advocates for their sibling[s] on the spectrum.

Having a neurodivergent sibling can impact an individual both negatively and positively. Experts say that people who grew up with an ND sibling mature faster than their peers. They also grow up to be more compassionate, caring, tolerant, and empathetic. However, many neurotypical siblings report feeling left out, as their parents have to focus more of their time and effort toward the neurodivergent one.

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Researchers have found that social support helps in mitigating that feeling. Whether it’s from parents, friends, or extended family, it can be a strong protective factor against stress and anxiety for neurotypical siblings. Psychologist Ashe Yee writes that parents should dedicate some quality one-on-one time to the neurotypical sibling. Playing a board game or going to the movie theater can be simple ways to make them feel seen. Peer support groups are also a good space for children to express their difficult but valid emotions.

Experts say that it’s normal for the sibling to want some time off from their neurodivergent brother or sister. Parents shouldn’t shame them for it or force the child to spend time with the ND sibling. It doesn’t necessarily mean they dislike them or don’t like spending time with them. Most times, it’s just the neurotypical kid wanting some “me time.”

The creator of Autism in the Museum, Lisa Jo Rudy, writes that parents need to show respect for the neurotypical child. “Treat all children with respect, and model respect for the autistic child.” Neurotypical children with an ND sibling learn from a very early age what it’s like to live with a person who’s on the autism spectrum. They learn about the importance of rules and routines when they’re little, and they might even teach their parents something.

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The sibling relationship is very important, more so when one of them is neurodivergent

Sibling relationships are extremely important in a child’s development journey. A brother or sister is the first peer a child has. They learn how to socialize and how to navigate conflicts through contact with their sibling. For autistic children, playing and interacting with a neurotypical sibling can be very beneficial as well. Research shows that neurotypical older siblings positively impact the social skills of a child with ASD.

Atypical siblings have an important role in society as well. They act as ambassadors of the neurodivergent to be accepted into the community, Sofia Stigka, a child psychologist at Thrive Wellbeing Centre, writes. “They learn early on that behaviors that others may label as atypical – mannerisms, echolalia, vocalisations – are ways that an autistic child expresses their emotions and needs.”

At times, when a sibling with ASD may not be able to voice their needs, siblings can either help them do it or do it for them. Apex ABA Therapy writes that neurotypical siblings also empower their brother[s] or sister[s] to reach their full potential. “They can provide encouragement, motivation, and a sense of belief in their abilities. This support can have a profound impact on the self-esteem and confidence of individuals with autism.”

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It’s true that neurotypical siblings are forced to grow up and mature earlier than other kids their age. They might need to assume the role of a carer when they’re still children themselves. Whether or not it’s fair on the neurotypical child is not a black-and-white issue. “This is a journey that does not come with a road map,” Stigka writes.

“[The girl’s] feelings are valid,” people in the comments said, calling out the woman for her insensitive behavior

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Others thought the aunt and the parents both sucked here

But there were some people who sided with the aunt as well

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Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

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Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

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CanadianDimes
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the NTAs are assuming a 12 year old child thinks and acts like an adult rather than a child - and a child who hasn’t been neglected for her brother’s needs for 8 years. It isn’t her job to be a parent. It’s her parents’ job to be her parents as well as her brother’s. This isn’t a one off thing where she was overlooked, and her aunt reinforced that her being overlooked is acceptable.

Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother had serious mental and emotional issues. Back in the 70's, there weren't a whole lot of options. He was three years older than I. I was his babysitter from about six on. I did the chores. I helped cook. I made sure he didn't go off on a neighbor kid and beat him up. I spent hours doing laundry and suchlike, watching him play. The world revolved around keeping him from losing it, from beating up any of the kids (but me). I had to help him with his homework. I had to make sure I was the person he hurt, because we were a nice family with a white picket fence. I had no friends, and couldn't have invited them over if I had. So many times something was finally going to be about me, but my brother happened. I sacrificed my childhood for him. Not only did nobody appreciate it, nobody even noticed. As an adult, several of my aunts and uncles have commented that they wondered if he was (physically) hurting me. Why didn't they ask when it was happening? That girl NEEDS to be put on the front burner once in awhile. She NEEDS to know she's not just her brother's shadow. Aunt could have made a big deal about coming to the rescue with the magic cupcakes. The kid is twelve. She knows magic isn't real. She has a special-needs sibling. She KNOWS magic isn't real. But she would still have treasured the thought of magic birthday cupcakes, and it would have been a memory she'd have cherished the rest of her life.

Kate Johnson
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so sorry you went through that. That is NOT okay! How do you think it effected your relationship with your parents in the long term?

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Natalia
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor girl just wanted someone in her corner for once

MR
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why it so hard for Outsiders to see what special needs kids do to the other children in the household? I get why the parents fail. But there's a reason we get inundated with NC stories from these kids as adults. They're treated terribly. Horribly emotionally abused. And this Aunt, looking outside in, is unable to see how much this is impacting the other child. And offers zero empathy. Unreal.

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's not upset about the instance, but the pattern. When you grow up with a special needs sibling, you aren't a priority. There are only so many hours in the day and spoons people have, and the sinking takes up most of those. There's no easy fix but I bet she puts up with being the least important family member all the time and had put a lot of emotional weight onto her birthday, where she would be the priority for the day. I'm not saying it's reasonable, but it's typical for that age and situation. And she was let down again, even on her birthday. So she's upset, the instance was just the straw breaking the camels back. It's what the pattern says about her position in the family that she's upset about.

Ge Po
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Better reaction would have been to acknowledge the feeling: Yes, I understand that you're angry. I would be too, if it would have happened to me. I also know that your parents are doing what they can and that they really love you, but that they maybe not show it as much as they should, because they are overwhelmed. I hope you can forgive them for that, even if maybe not right now. (Give the girl some time to express her feelings, and ensure her) I love you too and this was very important for you, so I am going to do what I can to help.

Ge Po
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(My youngest is ND. My oldest told me once that the fact that I acknowledged how hard it must be for oldest to have a sibling that is ND and that I understood the anger and frustration that came with it, made a lot of difference.)

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Anony Mouse
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd go one step further and say the aunt is TA for not informing the father's employer that he shouldn't be performing surgeries in a state of sleep deprivation. He's literally taking peoples' lives into his hands.

Kare Deter
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We only have her say so on that. She's not actually in the house so she really doesn't know. Apparently he was sleeping soundly while the boy was demolishing the cupcakes.

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Momogi
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am sad for that little girl. She is upset and needs comfort from someone and not a lecture. It's her birthday :(

Historyharlot93
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can guarantee her aunt telling her she’s a bad daughter will mess her up. I was being severely bullied when I was 10 in school, but was told by my mom the bully’s parents were getting divorced and her problems were bigger, and I should be nicer. Took me 20 years of therapy to get over being told my feelings don’t matter, and I’m not responsible for making sure everyone has a happy day.

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clairebear
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is likely the daughter is also neurodivergent but it has not been noticed. This happened in my family. Boys present more obviously than girls as girls are very good at masking. Especially if she is high functioning. I feel sorry the boy is dragging all the attention. The parents need to step up more and aunty needs to make a pal of her niece and take her out on her own more. And keep her gob shut. it is not the daughter's job to make her parents' life easier or help out with her brother.

CanadianDimes
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if she's not, she's still not getting the love, attention, and support she needs as a child.

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Id row
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When your aunt tells the glass child to be more unnoticeable. jfc, that poor kid.

ADZ
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If dads a surgeon couldn't they afford some help? Not trying to be a d*ck, genuine question.

ValdaDeDieu
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's the million-dollar question. Even a part-time housekeeper would help. Where do these people get off burdening a 12-year old with adult problems?

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firecrackershrimp
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm more hung up on a sleep deprived surgeon 😷 that's terrifying

Justin Smith
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like a lot of people are missing the fact that the parents are making misrakes that can turn out to be dangerous. This time rhe forgot to lock the cupcakes up, what if it was somethinghe had an allegy to or was dangerous if ingested? Thats bad enough, then add how they treat (or dont really treat) their daughter.

FluffyDreg
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people expecting a 12 year old child to be an adult and saying it should be HER responsibility to cover for her parents mistakes???? That's supposed to be reversed! Shes supposed to be the one MAKING the mistakes with her parents teaching her how to avoid them! Not her parent her parents? Wtf?? And the assumption that if shes not told off fir being upset at yet another thibg beung ruined for her because of her brother means shes going to grow up thinking shes entitled to everything? Newsflash. A kid who doesn't get much, getting one or two things guilty free isn't going to make them feel entitled to everything.

Ozymandias73
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's TA. Scolding a 12yo child and telling her to lay off her parents is totally in the wrong. Even if her intentions were in the right place. A child is a child and even if her brother has special needs, her needs shouldn't be swept under the rug.

C.O. Shea
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My parents forgot my birthday when I was 12... then blamed me for not reminding them. I caught hell for it. Yeaahhhh... childless auntie needs to get a clue!

Kate Johnson
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel so sorry for the daughter. Clearly the parents are overwhelmed and she's getting the short end of the stick. So well done by the aunt, making this poor child feel guilty for being upset that her birthday was ruined by her brother, who likely ruins much of her existence. On a daily basis she's forced to take a backseat to her brothers constant needs. Having an adult tell her to "suck it up and not make trouble" instead of giving her some understanding will just guarantee that in future the child will know not to come to the aunt for any understanding. That's she's basically "on her own" to deal with all her feelings.

Tyke
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aunt could offer to take niece once a month or something to do something fun with her. She could offer to look after the nephew to give the parents a break and time with niece if possible. She could offer to step in while ONE parent has a break/time with niece, etc. There are many things the Aunt could do here to help alleviate the situation if she wants rather than diminishing the niece's feelings.

Giraffy Window
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see this as a soft YTA. OP was trying to help her niece understand her parents perspective, but didn't stop to think about precisely how often this "glass child" has to put everyone else's needs and perspective in front of her own. Her birthday is a time that's meant to be about her, and her kid brother has ruined the day. Just because her parents are exhausted doesn't make that her burden to bear, and doesn't mean she's not allowed to feel heartbroken at the same time. OP would have done better to just acknowledge how upset her niece was, and assure her that her aunties can avert the cupcake disaster. No talk of parents. No talk of brother. Just acknowledge her feelings.

Alt-Randy Hiner
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm certain she is counting the days until her 18th Birthday. I would.

Fembot
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Auntie is TA, and doubly so for asking the internet if maybe it’s not her but a 12 y old kid not being seen or celebrated on.her.birthday. Jeez

CwtchyMama
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Instead of telling her to lay off maybe offer her a space to rant when she needs to having someone listen us a huge help ice been on both sides my brother had adhd nd as really hard to live with and now my daughter youngest of three is nonverbal autistic twelve is much to young to understand she just needs support and m probably the parents do too

Trev Fontaine
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What do all the acronyms mean? Whats with people writing like that

Ivona
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTA votes are entirely justified. The parents should make sure their son doesn't damage their daughter's property or anything else related to her.

Couragetcd
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't help but think the people saying NTA are all parents with similar kid situations, especially the one that said why didn't the niece make sure the cabinet was locked. Sickening. Hopefully OP can help more in the future by being emotionally supportive.

Marnie
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother had two kids. The oldest had very high support needs. He wasn't autistic, but very similar. The younger brother suffered from emotional neglect and having to deal with the very unmanageable older brother who made his life miserable. Turns out, the younger one is autistic (Asperger's originally before that was folded into ASD). He not only was neglected in general, but his own special needs were not met until he was in his mid-teens and was finally diagnosed. And this was true even though my brother was a very good and decent person who did want the best for his children.

Stersil
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have great difficulty understanding why these parents have not secured additional assistance. I was the eldest child of three was tasked with being a "good" example for my siblings. It made me an unrealistic perfectionist. I was frequently tense and stressed. This young child needs a break. I pray that her family both immediate and extended will search for avenues to make sure that her needs are met..

Vira
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get the impression the niece is at the age where she's starting to wake up to her own wants, feelings, and needs. She's starting to see injustice in being put last in everyone's mind. The Aunt telling her that she needs to put her own feelings, needs, and desires, last, will have permanent repercussions for everyone. The girl is being told, "This is your life. Your brother comes first. If your plans are ruined, you have to just accept it, and move on quietly." If this message is made repeatedly, then she will carry this into adulthood and let people walk all over her, until she either gets therapy, or finds someone who tells her it's okay to have her own needs, and it's okay to see herself as just as deserving of attention as other people.

IM FVCKING GAY DEAL WITH IT
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When i was twelve my mother was poor and didnt have alot of money so when i needed something I would go to my dad(yes my parents are divorced) because he was well off and i didnt want to put this weight on my mom of getting the money for these things because i wanted her to have the least amount of stress. This is a real life example from me

Marnie
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If by "ND" they mean autistic, they should say autistic. Neurodivergent is a really vague term. It's not technical and covers more than just autism. Why not be specific when you're talking about one individual and not making generalizations?

Isa Car
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why does the precise diagnosis matter in this instant? It's not ABOUT the brother, as much as the whole family is fixated on him, so what would knowing his specific flavour of ND help with deciding if the aunt is TA nor NTA? Do you think that with some diagnoses she would be right in telling her niece "you are too unimportant to have feelings"?

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millac
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She would have something of a leg to stand on if the parents had been the ones to call her and try to find a way to replace the cupcakes. They didn't. The did jack-all to make the situation whole for their oldest and weren't even comforting the kid. How messed up and sad is it that a 12 year old had to arrange for her own birthday cake?

Matthew Barabas
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she isnt wrong, it absolutely is a careless thing to do, to forget to lock the cabinet.

Aiden S (Froggy)
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It also seems like the daughter may be feeling neglected, overwhelmed, and frustrated by a lack of attention by her reaction so yeah auntie is wrong and needs to apologize and someone should find some time for that girl.

Child of the King
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In all honesty, parents were doing the best they can. They're not getting enough sleep due to the nephew. The girl just made things harder on parents. Yes she's a child with feelings but think about her parents. Not getting enough sleep can make someone make mistakes. So don't expect parents to be perfect and I agree that the aunt and her partner did help them out. The niece need to understand from a child point of view that parents make mistakes. Special needs kids can't always figure things out easily. Yeah, its hard to be a sibling to someone who is Special needs but you can sit down and explain things to them in a way that they can understand

El Dee
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5 months ago

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I can see everyone's POV here. Everyone is being rather judgemental though. This is not a good situation and, although not put across well, the aunt made a point that whilst it WAS awful for the niece that she, the aunt, could rectify the situation but asking the niece to be satisfied with that rather than add to the situation seems reasonable. Like a lot of things it's HOW you do it..

Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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5 months ago

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Im absolutely floored by the YTA. At 12 she's old enough to know that a screaming tantrum and melt down in this situation isnt acceptable. Not saying her parents are fine, it sounds very very much lole they arent good at this. And before someone tries to defend people that, THEY DONT KNOW EITHER. If you haven't understood how to handle your even highly autistic or problematic child at 8.. and the sister cant cope either. You're whole family is the F***ing problem. And someone saying dont make life harder.. absolutely is not.

SadieCat17 (she/her)
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm floored by all the nta responses thinking that it's fine for the 12 year old to take on her parents' mental burden of raising a high needs child and disregard her own emotions in favor of comforting her parents when her family doesn't seem too keen on comforting her in return. That 12 year old is going to end up emotionally becoming her own parent if her biological ones keep disregarding her for her brother and that really f***s a person up.

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CanadianDimes
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the NTAs are assuming a 12 year old child thinks and acts like an adult rather than a child - and a child who hasn’t been neglected for her brother’s needs for 8 years. It isn’t her job to be a parent. It’s her parents’ job to be her parents as well as her brother’s. This isn’t a one off thing where she was overlooked, and her aunt reinforced that her being overlooked is acceptable.

Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother had serious mental and emotional issues. Back in the 70's, there weren't a whole lot of options. He was three years older than I. I was his babysitter from about six on. I did the chores. I helped cook. I made sure he didn't go off on a neighbor kid and beat him up. I spent hours doing laundry and suchlike, watching him play. The world revolved around keeping him from losing it, from beating up any of the kids (but me). I had to help him with his homework. I had to make sure I was the person he hurt, because we were a nice family with a white picket fence. I had no friends, and couldn't have invited them over if I had. So many times something was finally going to be about me, but my brother happened. I sacrificed my childhood for him. Not only did nobody appreciate it, nobody even noticed. As an adult, several of my aunts and uncles have commented that they wondered if he was (physically) hurting me. Why didn't they ask when it was happening? That girl NEEDS to be put on the front burner once in awhile. She NEEDS to know she's not just her brother's shadow. Aunt could have made a big deal about coming to the rescue with the magic cupcakes. The kid is twelve. She knows magic isn't real. She has a special-needs sibling. She KNOWS magic isn't real. But she would still have treasured the thought of magic birthday cupcakes, and it would have been a memory she'd have cherished the rest of her life.

Kate Johnson
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so sorry you went through that. That is NOT okay! How do you think it effected your relationship with your parents in the long term?

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Natalia
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor girl just wanted someone in her corner for once

MR
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why it so hard for Outsiders to see what special needs kids do to the other children in the household? I get why the parents fail. But there's a reason we get inundated with NC stories from these kids as adults. They're treated terribly. Horribly emotionally abused. And this Aunt, looking outside in, is unable to see how much this is impacting the other child. And offers zero empathy. Unreal.

FreeTheUnicorn
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's not upset about the instance, but the pattern. When you grow up with a special needs sibling, you aren't a priority. There are only so many hours in the day and spoons people have, and the sinking takes up most of those. There's no easy fix but I bet she puts up with being the least important family member all the time and had put a lot of emotional weight onto her birthday, where she would be the priority for the day. I'm not saying it's reasonable, but it's typical for that age and situation. And she was let down again, even on her birthday. So she's upset, the instance was just the straw breaking the camels back. It's what the pattern says about her position in the family that she's upset about.

Ge Po
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Better reaction would have been to acknowledge the feeling: Yes, I understand that you're angry. I would be too, if it would have happened to me. I also know that your parents are doing what they can and that they really love you, but that they maybe not show it as much as they should, because they are overwhelmed. I hope you can forgive them for that, even if maybe not right now. (Give the girl some time to express her feelings, and ensure her) I love you too and this was very important for you, so I am going to do what I can to help.

Ge Po
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(My youngest is ND. My oldest told me once that the fact that I acknowledged how hard it must be for oldest to have a sibling that is ND and that I understood the anger and frustration that came with it, made a lot of difference.)

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Anony Mouse
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd go one step further and say the aunt is TA for not informing the father's employer that he shouldn't be performing surgeries in a state of sleep deprivation. He's literally taking peoples' lives into his hands.

Kare Deter
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We only have her say so on that. She's not actually in the house so she really doesn't know. Apparently he was sleeping soundly while the boy was demolishing the cupcakes.

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Momogi
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am sad for that little girl. She is upset and needs comfort from someone and not a lecture. It's her birthday :(

Historyharlot93
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can guarantee her aunt telling her she’s a bad daughter will mess her up. I was being severely bullied when I was 10 in school, but was told by my mom the bully’s parents were getting divorced and her problems were bigger, and I should be nicer. Took me 20 years of therapy to get over being told my feelings don’t matter, and I’m not responsible for making sure everyone has a happy day.

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clairebear
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is likely the daughter is also neurodivergent but it has not been noticed. This happened in my family. Boys present more obviously than girls as girls are very good at masking. Especially if she is high functioning. I feel sorry the boy is dragging all the attention. The parents need to step up more and aunty needs to make a pal of her niece and take her out on her own more. And keep her gob shut. it is not the daughter's job to make her parents' life easier or help out with her brother.

CanadianDimes
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if she's not, she's still not getting the love, attention, and support she needs as a child.

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Id row
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When your aunt tells the glass child to be more unnoticeable. jfc, that poor kid.

ADZ
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If dads a surgeon couldn't they afford some help? Not trying to be a d*ck, genuine question.

ValdaDeDieu
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's the million-dollar question. Even a part-time housekeeper would help. Where do these people get off burdening a 12-year old with adult problems?

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firecrackershrimp
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm more hung up on a sleep deprived surgeon 😷 that's terrifying

Justin Smith
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like a lot of people are missing the fact that the parents are making misrakes that can turn out to be dangerous. This time rhe forgot to lock the cupcakes up, what if it was somethinghe had an allegy to or was dangerous if ingested? Thats bad enough, then add how they treat (or dont really treat) their daughter.

FluffyDreg
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people expecting a 12 year old child to be an adult and saying it should be HER responsibility to cover for her parents mistakes???? That's supposed to be reversed! Shes supposed to be the one MAKING the mistakes with her parents teaching her how to avoid them! Not her parent her parents? Wtf?? And the assumption that if shes not told off fir being upset at yet another thibg beung ruined for her because of her brother means shes going to grow up thinking shes entitled to everything? Newsflash. A kid who doesn't get much, getting one or two things guilty free isn't going to make them feel entitled to everything.

Ozymandias73
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's TA. Scolding a 12yo child and telling her to lay off her parents is totally in the wrong. Even if her intentions were in the right place. A child is a child and even if her brother has special needs, her needs shouldn't be swept under the rug.

C.O. Shea
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My parents forgot my birthday when I was 12... then blamed me for not reminding them. I caught hell for it. Yeaahhhh... childless auntie needs to get a clue!

Kate Johnson
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel so sorry for the daughter. Clearly the parents are overwhelmed and she's getting the short end of the stick. So well done by the aunt, making this poor child feel guilty for being upset that her birthday was ruined by her brother, who likely ruins much of her existence. On a daily basis she's forced to take a backseat to her brothers constant needs. Having an adult tell her to "suck it up and not make trouble" instead of giving her some understanding will just guarantee that in future the child will know not to come to the aunt for any understanding. That's she's basically "on her own" to deal with all her feelings.

Tyke
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aunt could offer to take niece once a month or something to do something fun with her. She could offer to look after the nephew to give the parents a break and time with niece if possible. She could offer to step in while ONE parent has a break/time with niece, etc. There are many things the Aunt could do here to help alleviate the situation if she wants rather than diminishing the niece's feelings.

Giraffy Window
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see this as a soft YTA. OP was trying to help her niece understand her parents perspective, but didn't stop to think about precisely how often this "glass child" has to put everyone else's needs and perspective in front of her own. Her birthday is a time that's meant to be about her, and her kid brother has ruined the day. Just because her parents are exhausted doesn't make that her burden to bear, and doesn't mean she's not allowed to feel heartbroken at the same time. OP would have done better to just acknowledge how upset her niece was, and assure her that her aunties can avert the cupcake disaster. No talk of parents. No talk of brother. Just acknowledge her feelings.

Alt-Randy Hiner
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm certain she is counting the days until her 18th Birthday. I would.

Fembot
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Auntie is TA, and doubly so for asking the internet if maybe it’s not her but a 12 y old kid not being seen or celebrated on.her.birthday. Jeez

CwtchyMama
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Instead of telling her to lay off maybe offer her a space to rant when she needs to having someone listen us a huge help ice been on both sides my brother had adhd nd as really hard to live with and now my daughter youngest of three is nonverbal autistic twelve is much to young to understand she just needs support and m probably the parents do too

Trev Fontaine
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What do all the acronyms mean? Whats with people writing like that

Ivona
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTA votes are entirely justified. The parents should make sure their son doesn't damage their daughter's property or anything else related to her.

Couragetcd
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't help but think the people saying NTA are all parents with similar kid situations, especially the one that said why didn't the niece make sure the cabinet was locked. Sickening. Hopefully OP can help more in the future by being emotionally supportive.

Marnie
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother had two kids. The oldest had very high support needs. He wasn't autistic, but very similar. The younger brother suffered from emotional neglect and having to deal with the very unmanageable older brother who made his life miserable. Turns out, the younger one is autistic (Asperger's originally before that was folded into ASD). He not only was neglected in general, but his own special needs were not met until he was in his mid-teens and was finally diagnosed. And this was true even though my brother was a very good and decent person who did want the best for his children.

Stersil
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have great difficulty understanding why these parents have not secured additional assistance. I was the eldest child of three was tasked with being a "good" example for my siblings. It made me an unrealistic perfectionist. I was frequently tense and stressed. This young child needs a break. I pray that her family both immediate and extended will search for avenues to make sure that her needs are met..

Vira
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get the impression the niece is at the age where she's starting to wake up to her own wants, feelings, and needs. She's starting to see injustice in being put last in everyone's mind. The Aunt telling her that she needs to put her own feelings, needs, and desires, last, will have permanent repercussions for everyone. The girl is being told, "This is your life. Your brother comes first. If your plans are ruined, you have to just accept it, and move on quietly." If this message is made repeatedly, then she will carry this into adulthood and let people walk all over her, until she either gets therapy, or finds someone who tells her it's okay to have her own needs, and it's okay to see herself as just as deserving of attention as other people.

IM FVCKING GAY DEAL WITH IT
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When i was twelve my mother was poor and didnt have alot of money so when i needed something I would go to my dad(yes my parents are divorced) because he was well off and i didnt want to put this weight on my mom of getting the money for these things because i wanted her to have the least amount of stress. This is a real life example from me

Marnie
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If by "ND" they mean autistic, they should say autistic. Neurodivergent is a really vague term. It's not technical and covers more than just autism. Why not be specific when you're talking about one individual and not making generalizations?

Isa Car
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why does the precise diagnosis matter in this instant? It's not ABOUT the brother, as much as the whole family is fixated on him, so what would knowing his specific flavour of ND help with deciding if the aunt is TA nor NTA? Do you think that with some diagnoses she would be right in telling her niece "you are too unimportant to have feelings"?

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millac
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She would have something of a leg to stand on if the parents had been the ones to call her and try to find a way to replace the cupcakes. They didn't. The did jack-all to make the situation whole for their oldest and weren't even comforting the kid. How messed up and sad is it that a 12 year old had to arrange for her own birthday cake?

Matthew Barabas
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she isnt wrong, it absolutely is a careless thing to do, to forget to lock the cabinet.

Aiden S (Froggy)
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It also seems like the daughter may be feeling neglected, overwhelmed, and frustrated by a lack of attention by her reaction so yeah auntie is wrong and needs to apologize and someone should find some time for that girl.

Child of the King
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In all honesty, parents were doing the best they can. They're not getting enough sleep due to the nephew. The girl just made things harder on parents. Yes she's a child with feelings but think about her parents. Not getting enough sleep can make someone make mistakes. So don't expect parents to be perfect and I agree that the aunt and her partner did help them out. The niece need to understand from a child point of view that parents make mistakes. Special needs kids can't always figure things out easily. Yeah, its hard to be a sibling to someone who is Special needs but you can sit down and explain things to them in a way that they can understand

El Dee
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5 months ago

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I can see everyone's POV here. Everyone is being rather judgemental though. This is not a good situation and, although not put across well, the aunt made a point that whilst it WAS awful for the niece that she, the aunt, could rectify the situation but asking the niece to be satisfied with that rather than add to the situation seems reasonable. Like a lot of things it's HOW you do it..

Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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Im absolutely floored by the YTA. At 12 she's old enough to know that a screaming tantrum and melt down in this situation isnt acceptable. Not saying her parents are fine, it sounds very very much lole they arent good at this. And before someone tries to defend people that, THEY DONT KNOW EITHER. If you haven't understood how to handle your even highly autistic or problematic child at 8.. and the sister cant cope either. You're whole family is the F***ing problem. And someone saying dont make life harder.. absolutely is not.

SadieCat17 (she/her)
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm floored by all the nta responses thinking that it's fine for the 12 year old to take on her parents' mental burden of raising a high needs child and disregard her own emotions in favor of comforting her parents when her family doesn't seem too keen on comforting her in return. That 12 year old is going to end up emotionally becoming her own parent if her biological ones keep disregarding her for her brother and that really f***s a person up.

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