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“By Far, We Are Doomed”: Many Educators Are Worried About Gen Alpha’s Horrific Behavior
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“By Far, We Are Doomed”: Many Educators Are Worried About Gen Alpha’s Horrific Behavior

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Despite performing one of the most important jobs in the world, teachers are often very underacknowledged and heavily undervalued. And yet, even with all that, there are people who choose this profession to try and make a difference.

However, lately, it seems that their job has become even more difficult than it used to be, and, as this TikToker shared, it is all because of how terribly most of the Gen Alpha kids are raised. Many children in today’s schools are acting in rude, aggressive, disrespectful, and defiant ways. Educators are lost and are looking for ways to solve this major issue. Scroll down to read the full story!

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Students of the Gen Alpha generation are wreaking havoc in schools, and teachers feel hopeless

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“Young Gen Z teachers are talking about the poor behavior of Gen Alpha students”

And some of y’all are finally starting to believe us when it comes to how much we’ve missed the mark on raising these kids right. Because I have gray in my hair, and I’m 36 years old, people tend to tune me out as soon as I open my mouth when I start talking about these issues we’re seeing in the classroom with our kids these days. So before I go on, why don’t we review some of the evidence from some of the other creators on this app, who might be a little bit more of a relatable age.”

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“This is my folder of crying teachers”

“And they are confused and frightened by the behavior of Gen Alpha. They’re saying Gen Alpha is defiant, aggressive, disrespectful, and rude.”

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“Having to teach and work with you guys as children has been the most traumatic experience of my life”

“They don’t respect any authority. You ask them, ‘Can you stand at your designated spot?’ They’re telling you, ‘No’ and ‘Shut up.’ They’re throwing things at each other. They’re throwing things at other people, other classmates. You say, ‘Can everybody sit in their spot?’ ‘I don’t want to.’ ‘I’m not doing that.’ ‘You don’t get to tell me what to do.’ ‘You’re not my mom.'”

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“I’m not even trying to be funny”

“But these kids are… I’m gonna just say this: I teach seventh grade—they are still performing on the fourth-grade level.”

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“I’m a middle school teacher”

I’m also 22 years old. And I will tell you, by far, we are doomed. These kids do not care. I have kids, all they want to do all day long is get high, like…”

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I need to ask Millennials, why are your kids so awful?”

“And more importantly, why do you think it’s so funny? Your kids cannot read, they cannot write, they’re ill-mannered.”

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“I’ve been trying to sound the alarm about Gen Alpha students and their poor behavior in their classrooms, as well as their literacy problems, since May of last year”

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But because of my age and how I look, every time I make a video about these topics, I’ll get people that have never worked with kids or have never spent a day in the classroom as an educator give me lines like, ‘Well, you’re just old and jaded,’ ‘If you don’t like it, and you can’t handle it, quit and find another job,’ [and] ‘Kids have always been like this, nothing’s new in 2023.'”

“And then we’ve got the droves of people that are trying to blame it on COVID and trying to blame it on the lockdown, us not having any sympathy or empathy for students with special needs. Even though I never talk about those types of students. And I’m always talking about general population students and the fact that this is an overarching problem with every single kid, even the high achievers, even the ones that don’t need IEPs, even the ones that are highly socialized and have a lot of resources coming from home.”

“Teachers that have been in this for 1, 2, 3 years are seeing it, and they are talking about it. Teachers that are veterans, like me, that have been in the classroom for over a decade, or two or three, or nearing retirement, are also saying the same thing. Your children are missing the mark on discipline, they’re missing the mark on education standards, they’re missing the mark on literacy, they’re missing the mark on socialization.”

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“We can blame it on COVID, we can blame it on iPads raising our kids, we can blame it on the fact that kids don’t socialize with each other enough, we can blame it on the economy and the fact that parents don’t have time to help their kids learn how to read or don’t have time to take their kids to the park anymore. You can blame it on all of those things, or we can blame it on none of those things. But it sounds like we’re starting to get into a consensus here amongst educators that we have a real problem.”

“And some of y’all need to stop making excuses. ‘You’re just blaming the kids.’ ‘You’re just so mean.’ No, we are not. The problem is that we have [is] this generation of parents that [don’t] want to take accountability for not doing what they need to do to raise kids that are self-sufficient, that are socialized, or kind. And no, it’s not the kid’s fault.”

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“And why does it seem like teachers are the only ones that are talking about it?”

The people that are talking about it are the ones that work with the kids and not the ones that are raising the kids. Gen Alpha have been raised to believe that they are grown folks, that they can speak to whoever they want, however they want. That violence is the answer. Gen Alpha students are raised in a world that tells them that it’s okay to be as nihilistic and individualistic as possible, that they don’t have to care about anything or anyone, that they can speak to anybody however they want to speak to them, even though they’re only 10, 11 or 12 years old.”

“Most importantly, they are being conditioned to believe that they are immune to consequences, that there are no consequences to their poor behavior, to their rudeness, to their lack of care in completing tasks and doing well in school. They just don’t care.”

“Is this us demonizing kids for fun? No, it’s not. The people that are talking about this are genuinely concerned. We are frightened for these kids. And if you’re sitting back saying, ‘Oh my god, poor babies,’ ‘I wish you would just quit talking about them because you’re just being mean,’ and ‘It’s not even helpful because kids are just kids.’ You are doing absolutely a disservice to their future.”

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“This is not just an old people complaining about young people problem anymore. Young people in Generation Z, young teachers who are seeing the same thing I’m seeing with my two eyeballs, are talking about the same thing. You can call it an old folks complaining about young folks thing, and, ‘Why are you demonizing millennial parents?’ ‘Why are you demonizing Gen Alpha kids?’ Or you can step back and look at it from our perspective and say, ‘Gee, I wonder why there’s so many people talking about the same thing. I wonder why there’s so many teachers that are concerned about the same thing.'”

“We cannot even begin to talk about solutions until we admit there’s a problem. Most of you, [who] are parents, because y’all are the ones that matter. I don’t even care about the ones who are just trolls and are sitting back, saying, ‘School doesn’t matter, yap, yap, yap, Mayor of Yap Ville, who cares?’ I don’t care about you either. I’m talking to parents. If you are not ready to admit that there’s a problem here, we cannot get anywhere near even talking about the solutions. We cannot raise a generation of kids that are this tuned out, that are this rude, that are this violent to each other, to adults, to people younger than them. We just can’t do it.”

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Check out the full TikTok video below

@teresakayenewman Lets talk about Gen Alpha kids. Young teachers and Gen Z are recognizing their poor behavior and social/academic deficits… why are we still trying to pretend like this is not a problem we should discuss? #teacher ♬ original sound – Newman Music Academy

The woman in the video is Teresa Kaye Newman, a flutist, music educator, author, and TikTok content creator who spreads knowledge online, where she’s followed by more than 98,000 people and has over 5.5 million likes. Most of her videos consist of discussing school-related issues, advice for parents and teachers, and some interesting things from her personal life or observations online.

One of Teresa’s most popular posts is a video with over 7 million views, which was posted late last year. In it, the woman talks about a very real yet way-too-often-dismissed problem of severe Gen Alpha students’ behavioral and academic issues, which could spiral completely out of control if action is not taken soon.

The people in the comment section were mostly in agreement with the words of this teacher. They bashed the overly gentle parenting trend and pointed out some other important things in the topic that the woman didn’t mention.

Image credits: Max Fischer (not the actual photo)

The current issues are quite clear. Besides their behavioral issues, Gen Alpha is not doing well academically, and this is a cause for concern for teachers, parents, and the kids themselves—or at least it should be. But to better understand it, let’s look at the whole picture.

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As per Innovation & Technology Today, the members of Generation Alpha are the kids born from 2010 until the end of 2024. With around 2.5 million new Alphas being born weekly worldwide, this generation is getting bigger and bigger.

The most significant thing that separates this generation from its predecessors is the fact that these kids grew up entirely with technology at hand, whereas previous ones were introduced to it a little later on in life. 

While this gives them a great advantage, setting them up to break the limits of our modern world, it also poses many never-before-encountered challenges that the current systems may not yet be ready for. They’re expected to live longer, retire later, and communicate faster, which will require new skills, learning styles, and ways of socializing. 

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But just as technology is useful, it is no less harmful, too. As Conrad Tan of Medium wrote, some of the Gen Alpha kids are getting their first phones at the ages of 6, 5, or even earlier. With that comes unlimited access to the internet and platforms like YouTube and TikTok, and the short-form content they receive through them has a very significant impact on their brains. 

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The average attention span for humans dropped from 12 to 8 seconds between 2000 and 2013, and since these results are from over 10 years ago, the current situation might be even worse. This means that kids these days find it a lot more difficult to stay focused in school, leading to poorer performance and more chaos in class.

At the same time, Alpha is the generation that was the most affected by the pandemic and the lockdowns that came with it. Being forced to learn in front of their screens from home only amplified their use of technology, and the limited physical contact with others at the age of their social and emotional development impaired their process of building social skills and growing emotionally.

In the interview with The Charger, Oxford School District’s superintendent, Bradley Roberson, added that while there was an increase in individuals with anxiety, depression, and ADHD in the past couple of generations, it is likely that Gen Alpha will see no lesser, and possibly even higher, numbers of people with these issues. The cause behind this cannot be defined 100%, but the expert speculated that this is due to how little time these kids spend talking face-to-face compared to on their screens. 

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However, as Bradley Roberson said, one thing is clear—the current teaching styles that worked for all previous generations are no longer effective and must be adapted to suit today’s kids. They might have unlimited knowledge at their fingertips, but they won’t grow up to change the world and solve its problems if they are not properly directed. 

And none of this can really be solved if we all try to go our own separate ways. While schools and teachers have their own part to play, this responsibility falls on the parents all the same. So, perhaps the best way to approach this is not to point fingers but to own our part and have faith that others will do the same. Because while it may not seem like that big of an issue now, remember that their future is our future, too.

What did you think about the situation with Gen Alpha kids? Do you agree with what this teacher said? Share your thoughts in the comments below!

Most of the commenters agreed with the woman, saying that what we see right now is a real problem that must be solved soon

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Weasel Wise
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a teacher in Las Vegas for five years and this is all absolutely true. I had to have a student written up and removed from my class permanently because he was sèxually harassing which turned into sèxual assault. When his parents were brought in for a meeting about this, they said I was lying, and tried to demand all punishment and record be removed from his records.

Ms.GB
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aren't there always parents and kids like that though? I was in middle school in the early 90s and we had an epidemic of the boys grabbing the girls butts and boobs only back then they barely did anything about it.

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MsLou
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What drove my mom nuts (she's a retired elementary school teacher) is that towards the end of her career, when the disruptive kid acted out, they removed all of the well behaved students and let the disruptive kid destroy the class room! When I was young they used to take the bad kid out!! Her principal said they could no longer do that because it's child abuse. There are days where the kids had to get taken out multiple times a day, my mom had to clean up her classroom, and the kids kept falling behind! They kept putting in these rules and parents ended up running the school and teacher's had zero support. I am a millennial (no children by choice) and I've seen some of my friends do the gentle parenting and...why? I'm not saying being cruel and sadistic and overly strict, but letting your kid do whatever?? If I did half of the stuff Gen Alpha did, I would be in so much trouble

Storm Rise
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's horrendous! Why the heck is it ok to disrupt the kids who are trying their best to learn because one kid has an issue? Have a safe room for the disrupptive kids. Soft furnishings, nothing that can be used to hurt themselves and then put them in it for a stated period of time. Calming music and colours to help them calm down, and for f*&$s sake- start them at daycare age on meditation and breathing exercises. It's a documented and proven therapy for ALL kids that has been shown to be so beneficial as they age and grow. Even the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommends it! https://www.healthychildren.org/English/healthy-living/emotional-wellness/Pages/Just-Breathe-The-Importance-of-Meditation-Breaks-for-Kids.aspx

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Captain McSmoot
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents fail at being a parent because they're trying to be their child's friend. Ironically, they aren't even a good friend to their child. The child is left with no real parent or real friend and no one to raise them. Teachers are then expected to pick up the slack. However, teachers aren't supposed to be the child's parent nor the child's friend; they are an educator. Before that b.s. excuse of "BeInG aN eDuCaTor Is being parent, friend, counselor, blah blah...": some teens work; those teen have managers. No one in their right damn mind would hold that manager to a ridiculous standard like they do a teacher because a manager is expected to manage their employees, not do the work for them, but to train and the teen is to work based on training. A teacher does the same damn thing; a teacher teaches by exposing students to new information, modeling it, giving students opportunities to practice it, and then test the student to see if *they* can do it.

Alexandra
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that is correct. People who are parents forget that they are parents and even though it's nice if you can be both at the same time, sometimes it's about what the child needs and not what it wants. You're not doing your child a favour by shielding them from everything: you need to teach them how to be resilient enough to handle the inevitable setbacks and disappointments in life.

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Cosmikid
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Step 1: Study cultures around the world that do not have this problem. Really study; from multiple disciplines.

Cosmikid
Community Member
7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Step 2. All teachers need to start weating police style body-cameras, for all hours at school. A. We will have hard, permanent records- at the moment we have only opinions. 2. Children will know they are being recorded- a small amount of misbehavior will stop. 3 Multiple professional analyses may reveal a few answers. Sound drastic? That's where we are. It's an emergency.

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devotedtodreams
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boy, does this ever make me glad that a) I don't ever want kids, and b) I never aspired to be a teacher, even less so nowadays. I talk a lot about the issues with the new generation(s) with my mother because, y'know, she's the one who actually raised kids and stuff. Turns out, we share most of our concerns. People are often calling for aspiring pet owners (especially dogs) to pass a qualification test before they may get the animal, but for years now, I've been thinking the same should be said for folks who aspire to have kids.

Elle Lian
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I taught prekindergarten for 6 years and taught a total of 13. Something has changed. I’ve had preK students throw chairs, tip over shelves, destroy my classroom to the point it looks like a tornado went through, bite and hit and pull hair of kids and teachers. They yell and scream to the point you can’t teach because you wouldn’t let them eat a piece of candy for breakfast that their mom gave them so they would (finally) get out of the car (aka bribery). Then the parents straight up don’t care or deny everything. I had a kid this year who bit a total of 20 times, often breaking skin. Mom wrote me in an email that she didn’t believe her child was a threat. If this kid had bit another child on the face, they could have disfigured them. I’m getting out of education this year. My five year old isn’t going to public school b/c it only takes one of these kids for the teacher to not be able to provide the rest of the class an education…and my class often had three to six of these kids.

Just-A-Black-Cat-Lover
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing about the handwriting and reading is so true though!! Some kids I've seen can't write, can't spell, can't read, or they get annoyed and shout when you ask them what that word was on their paper. (Ex. "IT'S THE WORD HOUSE!!! CAN'T YOU SEE RIGHT?!?")

Tammy Grogloth
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They see adults in authority even as high as the White House speaking and behaving inappropriately and the behavior being accepted, even applauded. What do you expect?

Charles McChristy
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"“I’m a middle school teacher” “I’m also 22 years old. And I will tell you, by far, we are doomed. These kids do not care. I have kids, all they want to do all day long is get high, like…”" ..... This was literally my group of friends when I was in middle school THIRTY-FIVE YEARS AGO!!! This behavior is nothing new. I experienced every one of these situations in k-12 an I graduated in 1995.

Ken Beattie
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the point is it's been getting worse both in intensity and requency. I never saw behaviour like that in a classroom and i graduated in '87.

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Bols
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not giving excuses for shi**y parenting. I just think this problem is very complex and we millenial parents tried to break the cycle of abusive parenting and teaching kids they have to obey all elders only because they are elders, but we went too far the other way... We didn't have many examples how to parent better, got more and more clashing information overflowing from all directions at once and we got lost :( again, not saying this is an excuse to be a bad parent, just that we are confused as a generation who grew up during internet/information boom. We also don't have a "village" anymore :(

Aiden Brough
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Why are 22 year olds teaching kids?" Probably because those who taught for 20 years have had enough... Not rocket science but obviously to some it is and could explain why their kids are the issue...

Anywhere but Here
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m a new teacher, but I was an EA before I went back for my degree. I talk to my students, always have, because I like to form connections with them. I know which kids are being handed an iPad when they walk in the door and don’t put it down until they pass out from exhaustion at God knows what time. They are the ones who have the most trouble, by far. In my opinion, it accounts for the staggering deficit in fine motor development, emotional regulation, and ability to follow expectations. Of course parents think we’re lying about their kids’ behaviour, they don’t act out at home because they don’t do anything that you have to address with consequences. They’re confused by accountability. And as parents, you don’t have any practice administering consequences either so there’s a helplessness when the time comes. There are so many other factors at play, but the iPad kids are by far my biggest concern.

T'Mar of Vulcan
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children have no ambition and see no reason to learn any skills because they all think that they'll grow up and become TikTok stars or influencers with their own YouTube channels. So why learn Maths and how to read and write if they already know how to film themselves using a cellphone?

Mental Liberals
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

hahaha! Gen z teachers about gen alpha students? Morons and more morons! Liberal socialist pushing their wokeness on the newer generation - we are f*cked!!! Glad I'll be dead by the time this next worthless generation is destroying the country! Yes, I know, you're glad too! Glad I could make your day! :)

Illusion
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a student throw a chair at my head and several other objects from his backpack at my other students because I had the "audacity" to give him a 0 for not turning in his quiz. His parents sent my admins nasty emails about how I was an awful teacher for failing him, and refused to understand that I was NOT going to grade work I never received just to make their kid feel special. This kid KNEW that I would go out of my way to help anyone in my class if they were struggling, and that I cared way more about effort versus the right answers. I don't teach anymore. And I'm much, much happier.

Tammy Grogloth
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They see and hear people in authority as high up as the White House acting out like brats and the behavior being accepted even applauded. What do you expect?

CP
Community Member
7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know my own experience is anecdotal, but the as the father if a 5 and 8 year old I do not see this behavior. Is this just a thing being blown out of proportion because that is what the internet does? How many fake things about kids have people been worried about, but it was all just internet hype.

Loaf of Bread
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an avid fanfiction reader and writer on the younger side of gen Z, I would like to say the idea of someone saying no to a teacher feels like a slap to the face. My parents literally work Monday to Friday and are busy on the weekends and they STILL made time to teach me how to read.

deathrose
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a fanfiction elder (started on Quizilla, that's how old I am), the quality of writing in the last 5 years has gone way down.

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Carole G.
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First STOP labeling each generation, ridiculous. There's no one in charge at home. Most need a 2 incone household to survive because the want is higher than the need. Accountability & respect have gone to the wayside. Everyone seems to be too busy to teach their own kids. Get your noses out of the phones people, your kids are choosing the wrong path.

CT
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7 months ago

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Captain McSmoot
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's no possible way this is true. There's a drastic change in the behavior and habits of high school students from 2012 and now.

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DB
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7 months ago

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I don't get it. Teachers are some of the most liberal people in the country and have been tearing down the educational system for decades. And now they're complaining about the results?

Marnie
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7 months ago (edited)

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Part of the problem is you throw a bunch of kids of the same age together, and who do they look to to see how to act? They look at each other. In almost all other times and places, kids would be around older siblings, cousins, aunts/uncles. The 5yo would look up to the 7yo who would be looking up to the 11yo, etc, etc. So, they would naturally be striving to be older, more mature, more wise, etc. Year by year it gets worse and worse because it gets worse year by year. Once it becomes acceptable, nothing can be done except a huge switch that nips things in the bud when they are in kindergarten. Now, I blame most of the parents, but if you get 5 well-raised kids in a roomful of 20 other unruly kids, it's going to be harder for the well-behaved kids to stay well-behaved. Yes, there seems to be a real problem with the parents as well, but I think this has been 100 years in the making. It's always been wrong to throw kids into this very unnatural environment of only being around kids their own age.

Newman
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7 months ago

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The Chinese (a lot of Asian countries actually) are doing it right. Uniforms, drills, and discipline. They’re teaching science and math, and we’re (USA) teaching feelings, self-esteem, diversity and “personal” pronouns

Tamra
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh bull$hit. There's no curriculum in public schools that teaches about self-esteem and pronouns, and there's no "woke agenda" being put forth in schools. It's this conservative horse$hit propaganda that's demonizing teachers, making their jobs harder, and causing massive amounts of frustration and burnout. If you want to be pissed at someone, be angry at the legislators who continually gut education and instead churn out nonsense about pronoun usage and book banning.

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Weasel Wise
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a teacher in Las Vegas for five years and this is all absolutely true. I had to have a student written up and removed from my class permanently because he was sèxually harassing which turned into sèxual assault. When his parents were brought in for a meeting about this, they said I was lying, and tried to demand all punishment and record be removed from his records.

Ms.GB
Community Member
7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aren't there always parents and kids like that though? I was in middle school in the early 90s and we had an epidemic of the boys grabbing the girls butts and boobs only back then they barely did anything about it.

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MsLou
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What drove my mom nuts (she's a retired elementary school teacher) is that towards the end of her career, when the disruptive kid acted out, they removed all of the well behaved students and let the disruptive kid destroy the class room! When I was young they used to take the bad kid out!! Her principal said they could no longer do that because it's child abuse. There are days where the kids had to get taken out multiple times a day, my mom had to clean up her classroom, and the kids kept falling behind! They kept putting in these rules and parents ended up running the school and teacher's had zero support. I am a millennial (no children by choice) and I've seen some of my friends do the gentle parenting and...why? I'm not saying being cruel and sadistic and overly strict, but letting your kid do whatever?? If I did half of the stuff Gen Alpha did, I would be in so much trouble

Storm Rise
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's horrendous! Why the heck is it ok to disrupt the kids who are trying their best to learn because one kid has an issue? Have a safe room for the disrupptive kids. Soft furnishings, nothing that can be used to hurt themselves and then put them in it for a stated period of time. Calming music and colours to help them calm down, and for f*&$s sake- start them at daycare age on meditation and breathing exercises. It's a documented and proven therapy for ALL kids that has been shown to be so beneficial as they age and grow. Even the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommends it! https://www.healthychildren.org/English/healthy-living/emotional-wellness/Pages/Just-Breathe-The-Importance-of-Meditation-Breaks-for-Kids.aspx

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Captain McSmoot
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents fail at being a parent because they're trying to be their child's friend. Ironically, they aren't even a good friend to their child. The child is left with no real parent or real friend and no one to raise them. Teachers are then expected to pick up the slack. However, teachers aren't supposed to be the child's parent nor the child's friend; they are an educator. Before that b.s. excuse of "BeInG aN eDuCaTor Is being parent, friend, counselor, blah blah...": some teens work; those teen have managers. No one in their right damn mind would hold that manager to a ridiculous standard like they do a teacher because a manager is expected to manage their employees, not do the work for them, but to train and the teen is to work based on training. A teacher does the same damn thing; a teacher teaches by exposing students to new information, modeling it, giving students opportunities to practice it, and then test the student to see if *they* can do it.

Alexandra
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that is correct. People who are parents forget that they are parents and even though it's nice if you can be both at the same time, sometimes it's about what the child needs and not what it wants. You're not doing your child a favour by shielding them from everything: you need to teach them how to be resilient enough to handle the inevitable setbacks and disappointments in life.

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Cosmikid
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Step 1: Study cultures around the world that do not have this problem. Really study; from multiple disciplines.

Cosmikid
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7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Step 2. All teachers need to start weating police style body-cameras, for all hours at school. A. We will have hard, permanent records- at the moment we have only opinions. 2. Children will know they are being recorded- a small amount of misbehavior will stop. 3 Multiple professional analyses may reveal a few answers. Sound drastic? That's where we are. It's an emergency.

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devotedtodreams
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boy, does this ever make me glad that a) I don't ever want kids, and b) I never aspired to be a teacher, even less so nowadays. I talk a lot about the issues with the new generation(s) with my mother because, y'know, she's the one who actually raised kids and stuff. Turns out, we share most of our concerns. People are often calling for aspiring pet owners (especially dogs) to pass a qualification test before they may get the animal, but for years now, I've been thinking the same should be said for folks who aspire to have kids.

Elle Lian
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I taught prekindergarten for 6 years and taught a total of 13. Something has changed. I’ve had preK students throw chairs, tip over shelves, destroy my classroom to the point it looks like a tornado went through, bite and hit and pull hair of kids and teachers. They yell and scream to the point you can’t teach because you wouldn’t let them eat a piece of candy for breakfast that their mom gave them so they would (finally) get out of the car (aka bribery). Then the parents straight up don’t care or deny everything. I had a kid this year who bit a total of 20 times, often breaking skin. Mom wrote me in an email that she didn’t believe her child was a threat. If this kid had bit another child on the face, they could have disfigured them. I’m getting out of education this year. My five year old isn’t going to public school b/c it only takes one of these kids for the teacher to not be able to provide the rest of the class an education…and my class often had three to six of these kids.

Just-A-Black-Cat-Lover
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing about the handwriting and reading is so true though!! Some kids I've seen can't write, can't spell, can't read, or they get annoyed and shout when you ask them what that word was on their paper. (Ex. "IT'S THE WORD HOUSE!!! CAN'T YOU SEE RIGHT?!?")

Tammy Grogloth
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They see adults in authority even as high as the White House speaking and behaving inappropriately and the behavior being accepted, even applauded. What do you expect?

Charles McChristy
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"“I’m a middle school teacher” “I’m also 22 years old. And I will tell you, by far, we are doomed. These kids do not care. I have kids, all they want to do all day long is get high, like…”" ..... This was literally my group of friends when I was in middle school THIRTY-FIVE YEARS AGO!!! This behavior is nothing new. I experienced every one of these situations in k-12 an I graduated in 1995.

Ken Beattie
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the point is it's been getting worse both in intensity and requency. I never saw behaviour like that in a classroom and i graduated in '87.

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Bols
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not giving excuses for shi**y parenting. I just think this problem is very complex and we millenial parents tried to break the cycle of abusive parenting and teaching kids they have to obey all elders only because they are elders, but we went too far the other way... We didn't have many examples how to parent better, got more and more clashing information overflowing from all directions at once and we got lost :( again, not saying this is an excuse to be a bad parent, just that we are confused as a generation who grew up during internet/information boom. We also don't have a "village" anymore :(

Aiden Brough
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Why are 22 year olds teaching kids?" Probably because those who taught for 20 years have had enough... Not rocket science but obviously to some it is and could explain why their kids are the issue...

Anywhere but Here
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m a new teacher, but I was an EA before I went back for my degree. I talk to my students, always have, because I like to form connections with them. I know which kids are being handed an iPad when they walk in the door and don’t put it down until they pass out from exhaustion at God knows what time. They are the ones who have the most trouble, by far. In my opinion, it accounts for the staggering deficit in fine motor development, emotional regulation, and ability to follow expectations. Of course parents think we’re lying about their kids’ behaviour, they don’t act out at home because they don’t do anything that you have to address with consequences. They’re confused by accountability. And as parents, you don’t have any practice administering consequences either so there’s a helplessness when the time comes. There are so many other factors at play, but the iPad kids are by far my biggest concern.

T'Mar of Vulcan
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children have no ambition and see no reason to learn any skills because they all think that they'll grow up and become TikTok stars or influencers with their own YouTube channels. So why learn Maths and how to read and write if they already know how to film themselves using a cellphone?

Mental Liberals
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

hahaha! Gen z teachers about gen alpha students? Morons and more morons! Liberal socialist pushing their wokeness on the newer generation - we are f*cked!!! Glad I'll be dead by the time this next worthless generation is destroying the country! Yes, I know, you're glad too! Glad I could make your day! :)

Illusion
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a student throw a chair at my head and several other objects from his backpack at my other students because I had the "audacity" to give him a 0 for not turning in his quiz. His parents sent my admins nasty emails about how I was an awful teacher for failing him, and refused to understand that I was NOT going to grade work I never received just to make their kid feel special. This kid KNEW that I would go out of my way to help anyone in my class if they were struggling, and that I cared way more about effort versus the right answers. I don't teach anymore. And I'm much, much happier.

Tammy Grogloth
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They see and hear people in authority as high up as the White House acting out like brats and the behavior being accepted even applauded. What do you expect?

CP
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7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know my own experience is anecdotal, but the as the father if a 5 and 8 year old I do not see this behavior. Is this just a thing being blown out of proportion because that is what the internet does? How many fake things about kids have people been worried about, but it was all just internet hype.

Loaf of Bread
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an avid fanfiction reader and writer on the younger side of gen Z, I would like to say the idea of someone saying no to a teacher feels like a slap to the face. My parents literally work Monday to Friday and are busy on the weekends and they STILL made time to teach me how to read.

deathrose
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a fanfiction elder (started on Quizilla, that's how old I am), the quality of writing in the last 5 years has gone way down.

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Carole G.
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First STOP labeling each generation, ridiculous. There's no one in charge at home. Most need a 2 incone household to survive because the want is higher than the need. Accountability & respect have gone to the wayside. Everyone seems to be too busy to teach their own kids. Get your noses out of the phones people, your kids are choosing the wrong path.

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7 months ago

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Captain McSmoot
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's no possible way this is true. There's a drastic change in the behavior and habits of high school students from 2012 and now.

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DB
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7 months ago

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I don't get it. Teachers are some of the most liberal people in the country and have been tearing down the educational system for decades. And now they're complaining about the results?

Marnie
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7 months ago (edited)

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Part of the problem is you throw a bunch of kids of the same age together, and who do they look to to see how to act? They look at each other. In almost all other times and places, kids would be around older siblings, cousins, aunts/uncles. The 5yo would look up to the 7yo who would be looking up to the 11yo, etc, etc. So, they would naturally be striving to be older, more mature, more wise, etc. Year by year it gets worse and worse because it gets worse year by year. Once it becomes acceptable, nothing can be done except a huge switch that nips things in the bud when they are in kindergarten. Now, I blame most of the parents, but if you get 5 well-raised kids in a roomful of 20 other unruly kids, it's going to be harder for the well-behaved kids to stay well-behaved. Yes, there seems to be a real problem with the parents as well, but I think this has been 100 years in the making. It's always been wrong to throw kids into this very unnatural environment of only being around kids their own age.

Newman
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The Chinese (a lot of Asian countries actually) are doing it right. Uniforms, drills, and discipline. They’re teaching science and math, and we’re (USA) teaching feelings, self-esteem, diversity and “personal” pronouns

Tamra
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh bull$hit. There's no curriculum in public schools that teaches about self-esteem and pronouns, and there's no "woke agenda" being put forth in schools. It's this conservative horse$hit propaganda that's demonizing teachers, making their jobs harder, and causing massive amounts of frustration and burnout. If you want to be pissed at someone, be angry at the legislators who continually gut education and instead churn out nonsense about pronoun usage and book banning.

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