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Guy With An Economics Degree Explains The Gender Pay Gap In Less Than A Minute

Guy With An Economics Degree Explains The Gender Pay Gap In Less Than A Minute

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American political commentator Dennis Prager is the founder of PragerU, a non-profit organization that creates videos on various political, economic, and philosophical topics from a conservative perspective.

One of the subjects PragerU tackles is the gender pay gap. The organization has released material claiming it didn’t exist as early as 2017, but when it took its views to TikTok, it was met with great resistance.

One of the people who opposed PragerU was James Ray. Drawing from the things he learned while pursuing a degree in economics, Ray published a response to the organization, attacking their main claim on the subject—if women were paid less than men, businesses would hire only women.

While he still wasn’t roasted of TikTok, Dennis Prager released a video where he denied the gender pay gap

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James told Bored Panda that he chose to get a degree in economics because he wanted to go into investment management. However, once he became more left-leaning, he realized just how valuable this “tool” was—it helped him contextualize the theory he read and explain better to people how some reforms and changes can materially benefit them. “Basically, it just made it easier for me to educate people on disparities present in our society,” he said.

“I had heard of Dennis Prager well before the TikTok because of Prager U (he’s sort of a well-known right-wing ideologue and propagandist),” James said. “And I do not like him. He spews very hateful unfounded rhetoric to his audience and I think the disinformation and overall problematic nature of his content have made me dislike him considerably!”

“My TikTok received an overall very good response, but like anything political, there’s always a cohort of people trying their best to disagree publicly,” Ray explained. “I’d say overall though I have seen a lot of good feedback!”

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However, Prager hasn’t. In fact, he has already deactivated his account, and this particular video may have contributed to it as well.

“As far as his attention from other TikTokers, I think it’s been mostly negative,” James said. “TikTok is… not fun for conservatives but particularly not for those like Dennis and I think the overall political TikTok community response has been a mixture of either attacking and mocking him and his positions or outright ignoring him so as to not give him attention.”

But it really didn’t fly with James Ray

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According to the Economic Policy Institute (EPI), the presence of alternative ways to measure the gender pay gap is one of the reasons for the misconception that data on the gender wage gap is unreliable. However, the data is remarkably clear and (unfortunately) consistent about the scale of the gap. “One often-cited statistic comes from the Census Bureau, which looks at annual pay of full-time workers,” the EPI wrote. “By that measure, women are paid 80 cents for every dollar men are paid.”

“Another measure looks at hourly pay and does not exclude part-time workers. It finds that, relative to men, typical women are paid 83 cents on the dollar. Other less-cited measures show different gaps because they examine the gap at different parts of the wage distribution, or for different demographic subgroups, or are adjusted for factors such as education level and occupation.”

His response already has over 1.3 million views

@jamesgetspoliticalLabor market time 😈 ##greenscreenvideo ##leftist ##liberal ##democrat ##women ##FindYourCore ##fyp ##4u ##reply ##politics ##usa ##money♬ original sound – James Ray

There’s no going around it; the gender pay gap is a thing. Why does it still exist is a question for another time. However, at least it looks like things are getting better.

A 2005 meta-analysis by Doris Weichselbaumer and Rudolf Winter-Ebmer of more than 260 published pay gap studies for over 60 countries found that from the 1960s to the 1990s, raw (aka non-adjusted) wage differentials worldwide have fallen substantially from around 65% to 30%. The bulk of this decline was due to better labor market endowments of women (i.e. better education, training, and work attachment).

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One person asked James to discuss the issue further

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So he released a follow-up

@jamesgetspoliticalAnswer to @jaredjonjacobs yay Econ questions 😇 ##leftist ##liberal ##democrat ##politics ##FindYourCore ##fyp ##4u ##usa ##women ##money♬ SUNNY DAY – Matteo Rossanese

But we still have a long way to go. According to the 2018 report from the World Economic Forum, it will take more than 200 years for economic gender equality to emerge, and 108 years to completely close the global gender gap across politics, health, and education. And people like Dennis Prager aren’t helping.

Here’s what other people said on the subject

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Rokas Laurinavičius

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Ilona Baliūnaitė

Ilona Baliūnaitė

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I'm a Visual Editor at Bored Panda since 2017. I've searched through a multitude of images to create over 2000 diverse posts on a wide range of topics. I love memes, funny, and cute stuff, but I'm also into social issues topics. Despite my background in communication, my heart belongs to visual media, especially photography. When I'm not at my desk, you're likely to find me in the streets with my camera, checking out cool exhibitions, watching a movie at the cinema or just chilling with a coffee in a cozy place

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El Dee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He doesn't think there's a gender pay gap because he's never been victim to it. It's like how many white people don't see racism..

Carol Emory
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a white woman, I see racism everyday. I don't tolerate it. But the door swings both ways. Just because I'm white doesn't mean I'm automatically a racist. No one knows my background, where I grew up, who my friends were and what kind of hardships I've had to face. So why is it automatically assumed that I'm racist?

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Truth Monster
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So the "wage gap" and how it came to exist depends on who you listen to. From the conservative standpoint (which is what PragerU is) women are making life choices such as taking large chunks of time off to have children or to take care of ailing family. This means the "wage gap" isn't evil, its women making life choices because they are free to do so. Of course, you could call it patriarchy that expects women to be the primary caregivers, but that's a tangent. Men, statistically speaking, do not take large chunks of time off. My opinion: If you really want to solve a wage gap in the most logical way possible, then make it mandatory for employers to make public what they pay for each position. That way if there is a disparity based on sex, it becomes readily apparent.

Kathryn Baylis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The last company I worked for made us sign an agreement—-at orientation—-not to discuss pay with other employees. Needless to say, I was exposed to COVId in the office, the company never even acknowledged it much less addressed it, and expected me to still come in to the same office where I was exposed to the virus. I had to resign to quarantine. On that last day, I contacted the fellow employees who weren’t corporate puppets and told them how much I was being paid. I can only hope that started some conversations. F**k that company’s gag order policy, especially considering the pay range they advertise but don’t ever offer.

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N G
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is also a different pay gap - at least covered by the EU men and women are (and it's illegal not to be) paid the same for doing the same work. So there is a different pay gap - where women earn less OVERALL as a percentage of the men's wage. This happens where more men are hired than women, so the total wages paid to women is less than to men. And also (bare with me) women tend to favour lower-paying jobs. Before you hit the downvote - all this means is that the jobs women favour (because they better accommodate childcare needs etc) are not valued as highly - a cashier is paid less than a mechanic, for example. A teacher earns less than a banker. A police officer is paid more than a nurse - this last one (in the UK) is important; they're both government funded so market forces aren't a factor. (They both earn less than an MP, which is a different matter again).

Laura Vanotti
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is sad reading: I’m a woman, I work in the Financial Sector and I’ve been paid less than my male colleague who does the same job. BTW, he has children and I don’t. Child care as reason for underpaying women? We left the sixties three generations ago but I see here that some people got stuck.

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John Louis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everything I have ever seen on PragerU is nothing more than right wing propaganda with no regard to unbiased, fact based reporting on social issues. It exists to advance a reactionary agenda.

Hugo Raible
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Check out Jordan Peterson. I'm not agreeing with everything he says, but most of it has a solid foundation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

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PeachPossum
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay, let's look at a female-dominated field, nursing: Men still make more than women. Male RNs make about $7000 more, despite having less education and fewer certifications, than their female counterparts. Men generally earn double for secondary nursing care. They also negotiate more often, more successfully. A year or so ago, I read an article about a woman who underwent transgender surgery and returned to his job afterwards. The author focused on the difference in the way coworkers treated him before and after surgery. Friends told him after the surgery that he needed to be far more assertive in the way he spoke. Not long afterward, he negotiated the biggest salary increase of his career. He was in shock that not only did he ask for the raise but got it without any pushback. Before the surgery he was scared to death he'd lose his job if he asked for that much. I wish I could remember the author's name...

Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BINGO! My mom was a unit manager, and a first-year nurse fresh from school got the same pay she did.... with zero experience. She had over 25 years, and as a head nurse on the unit for five. But he said, "Wah! I want more !" and so he got it. A woman does that, she's lucky to still have a job the next day.

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Marcellus the Third
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No pay gap? Yeah that's why when the BBC had to reveal the top salaries it paid, you had this heap of men you'd never think of (e.g., the face of an occasional DIY programme) ahead of any women including those fronting major programmes.

Paul Davis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Makes me wonder how that twit Prager can not think there's a gender pay gap. This has been proven, repeatedly. Like, how hard do you have to keep your eyes and ears sealed shut to information to keep your bigoted opinions?

Hugo Raible
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It has been proven repeatedly that if you control for all other factors like field, education, overtime... that the wage gap almost vanishes. A lot of these factors are life choices.

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Yvette Desmarais
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An addition reason, in the US, it's it's been traditional when changing jobs is to base a new rate or previous rates of pay. If someone, say a woman, starts at a low rate of pay early in her career, that follows her for years. Some states have made asking about pay rates illegal. This helps.

Sheila Stamey
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

James for President, ( of everything he wants, because he's a good person, not a guy) and Dennis for head stripper ( whatever he can get paid stripping, clothes, furniture, leaves, etc. Because he is an arsehat and looks like every guy executive I've ever worked for, or applied for work to, and saw him pass over a woman with better quality experience and stats because some guy who LOOKED like Alex Trebek walked in and shook his hand.) No disrespect to either the late Alex Trebek, or Trebekkies, which I am also.

Leo Domitrix
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well-off old white dude says there's no misogyny, and if there is, who cares. UGH. Just... ugh.

Wilf
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Gender pay gap is also worsened due to limits on progression opportunities. Women are even in 2021 more likely to take career breaks or work part time due to child care. This means women are often working significantly more junior roles compared to men when they reach middle-age. In the UK's biggest 500 companies, there are more CEO's called Steve then there are women CEO's combined!

SeidWolf
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We can also stop him at his first honest implied confession "you know what I don't understand? " Yes, something about which you are about to have an opinion without trying to begin to understand. The next time you hear someone about to say something that starts with you know what I don't understand, stop them right there and say maybe you should try educating yourself so you understand before you decide to express an ill-formed opinion

Leo Domitrix
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless they ask a quesstion immediately after "I don't undrstand." B/c I often start with "I don't understand... Show me?"

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Grumble O'Pug
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

PragerU is garbage. Dennis couches his point in the typical false narrative that implies that it is unassailable. Wrong Dennis, you are the problem. Pretending like it doesn't exist IS the problem.

Hugo Raible
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You might be more happy with Jordan Peterson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

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Damo Lee Park
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

so it has NOTHING to do with the fact that women are traditionallu choosing jobs that earn less money to start with? Are we meant to pay childcare workers the same as brain surgeons to rectify the wage gap? But someone will say " I work the same position as a man and he gets more than me". That's probably true. Has he been there longer than you? annual pay rises would account for that then. Did you negotiate your own contracts? Women have been shown to undervalue themselves in negotiations, probably because they're scared if they ask for the same money as Dave, they'll get the sack. But here's the thing. you'll probably end up, making the same money as Dave, no tunemployed. These are just 2 ways the wage gap has been proven as a lie. But keep telling us all how it's a real thing, because that will solve everything

Ozacoter
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is been proven that even in the same profession women get paid less because they are seen as less capable and a liability if they get pregnant. I love how you use the doctor as an example because it is perfect. Most medicine students are women but most well paid doctors, like surgeons, are men. Because women are seen as too feeble for those specialisations and are told to not pursue them and because they are less likely to be hired and promoted to those positions.

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Sheryl Logan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He is absolutely correct. I had a job where I was the head of an all make crew so when I made them do their job I was pushy, bitchy, and was called a dyke even tho I am completely straight ( very LGBT friendly as long as the person I interact with isn't a d**k) guys who act this way are seen as doing the job because they aren't taking any crap and they are being proactive and motivational. So about 16 months ago I am out working and have 2 people in the most senior spots under watching for our customers and the we're running their mouths and not doing their jobs so because I am over them even tho I Am working I get in trouble and demoted 4 pay grades. The person who was next in line got a shift preference they wanted the 2 Nd guy got a promotion after they posted my prior job and because no where else pays what o make there and because I have 28 years into my pension I took the lower job and the 10$ an hour pay cut. Even worst part is this is a union shop

Olly
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More companies need to be transparent about their pay scale. The company I work for thankfully is, so if you have x years of experience and x amount of education you get x amount per hour. They are also transparent about how to get a raise.

mac
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was going to comment but, for some reason I am unable to type long paragraphs like others on this post. So, basically I think this is a very complicated and situational topic that requires more specific answers.

Shelby Rinck
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The pay gap is a load of crap, it only works if you use AVERAGE pay, all men's pay compared to all women's pay, and even that difference is shrinking. It falls apart if you compare same jobs. In sales, it's performance, so if a woman sells more than a man she will make more than that man. I work for a Utility, and pay is based on job, and time in that job. Men and women make the same pay for the same job.

Leo Domitrix
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, actually, it doesn't. In many places, a woman's base salary is less than a man's to start. Teaching is one where I grew up. Both have to have equal qualifications, but women will have less salary just b/c "women dob'nt get paid"..... Honestly.

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Lorelai Purvis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i am just commenting on how i absolutely love how James is wearing a chain and a swirly ring as well as his nails are painted i think its awesome

Thomas Cottone
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol, this guy is an economic illiterate. His "degree" is an undergrad degree, essentially nothing more than advanced high school in today's educational climate. And yes, the Gender Wage Gap IS a myth. Once you account for the vast disparity in hours worked per week and days worked per year, plus choice factors like college major choice, the gap shrinks to less than 3 cents on the dollar. His other videos, especially the one on minimum wage, just prove his abject ignorance of economics and that he has obviously not done any real research or statistical analysis. He's a joke.

Soon
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One major reason why they hire men over women is also that the men don’t get pregnant. I’ve been at so many interviews where I’ve been asked if I plan on having children or having more children. I’ve heard people say right out that they don’t want people working there that will be away for a long period because of maternity leave.

Olof T
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What I've seen all my life is that ethnicity matters more than gender. Australia is the perfect example. Australia has a lot of internationals who come to study or work temporarily. To come to Australia you have to do a crime check and be healthy, have insurance prepared etc. That puts internationals on a fairly even ground. The worst jobs are food deliveries, car washes, cleaners etc. and undeclared work that can pay below legal minimum wages. It's almost exclusively brown/people of color who have the WORST jobs. I know this because I see this with my own eyes every day when I deliver food. My colleges are Indian, east Asian and other people who or not blond or blue eyed. The unsafe and low payed jobs are for brown people and the reason it's not talked about is probably because the people who have the influence to complain are white. Being a white woman means you have it a lot easier than the average person of color. Men of color are at the bottom of the food chain in the west.

Olof T
Community Member
3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Feminism is a movement for white middle class women and the "white knight" men who are trying to further their own careers by agreeing. Feminists don't want to help other women, they want to help themselves. They want votes, money and special treatment. Real equality is that no one gets any special treatment. Not positive special treatment. Not negative special treatment. Let the personal qualifications decide, not race or gender.

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James Morris
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked in the City of London as an Office Manager back in the 90's, in a financial firm. It was always a fun time when the end of year bonus and payrise interviews came around because of the behaviour of the employees. But those tales aren't what this is about. There were women and there were men working in the finance office and on paper, how much money you earned the company decided your bonus. The men would, in extreme examples, throw furniture around, scream and generally act like a bunch of spoiled children. The women would put together portfolios of their accomplishments and act like sensible gronwups. Obviously, the men on the interview panels came up screaming and throwing furniture around so they awarded the men who acted like them more money, irrespective of equevalent performance.

Xondra Galvez
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, how many women has this rude asshole with a degree in economics (probably awarded by berkeley or some other such leftist university) has hired himself? And let's remember that Bored Panda pays translators $0.02 dollars per word for the translations of their articles which they use to earn THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. Paying everyone peanuts as if they ran a sweatshop is the REAL WAY to fight wage disparities ;)

Robert Karp
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What James Ray is spouting is rhetoric that he read from books. Most of which is old beliefs that's being dredged up. Anytime the word "COULD" is inserted in the explanation means the statement is just BS. Yes there are people that are discriminative, however they aren't common place anymore. Woman aren't passive like they were in the 1940's anymore. My step mother is a retired High School English teacher. She applied for a teaching position at Strathmore High School in the late 1980's and was hired on. The principal told her they couldn't afford to pay her for her full tenure of 15 years, that they could only afford to pay her at 5 years tenure. She later learned that a male teacher in the English department, that was hired at the same time and had the same amount of tenure was hired at full tenure. My step mother was furious and took it to court. The other teachers told her to not make waves but my step mother doesn't put up with that. She won her lawsuit + backpay for full tenure.

Jan Kovář
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not saying that wage gap does not exists. I just think that the first argument is wrong. When we discuss the wage gap here, the condition is: "For the exact same work, at same location, same length and with same performance / results." In that case the wage should be same for man and woman. The first argument is about customer bias. If customer's satisfaction is higher when working with man than woman, than we no longer have the same performance / results. Isn't that a reason that justifies a difference in wages for this case? Lets reverse it. If women and men receive in such situation same wage, but the performance of man is higher, it would mean that employer is discriminating men, wouldn't it?

Nathan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder how women are getting paid less in comparison to men, because in my workplace new/younger female employees are getting better pays than seniors despite they don't have that tenure or knowledge to tackle challenges The major irony is when men at times, receive marriage proposals, girls earnings are similar to men but most of the ladies have their expectations that the man should earn more than them... If anyone is possible to explain this irony, please feel free to do so...

Bryn
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've also heard this - certain jobs in different fields pay better, and those jobs may have a higher percentage of one gender over the other. For example, there are more female nurses than male nurses. (I'm not sure of the exact number for the next one) let's say that there are more male brain surgeons than female brain surgeons. So a nurse would get paid less than a brain surgeon. But both are under the field of medicine. So some statistics might falsely report females getting paid less than males in the field of medicine, when really it's because they have different jobs.

Hugo Raible
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, exactly - it's well-known that the pay gap vanishes if you really compare apples to apples.

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Robin DJW
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am now an older retired woman. I worked 40 years for a healthcare organization, the 2nd half of that time in their IT group. At the time, the preponderance of people in healthcare were women. So when my outfit began investing in IT, 50 years ago, they staffed their IT groups with folks who knew the core business. So the preponderance of our IT people were female as well. I guess I landed in a sweet spot. Adjusted for inflation, I (with no degree or certification) was earning more at the end of my career than my father was at the end of his career (masters in nuclear engineering). I think some companies do use objective criteria for their wage scales, and they are meticulous in leaving gender out of the mix. True culture change takes time -- a lot of time. Progress is being made, but it can seem glacially slow. We've only had the vote for 100 years. We'll get there. Keep up the fight. Don't vote GOP.

Jason Doakes
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ahem, look at me LOOK AT ME!!! LLOOOOKKK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! oh yeah and some "economics", everybody with an ounce of brain already knows this, for at lest 20 years Europeans are trying to close the gap, but seems the US of Assholes was once again busy doing some other unimportant s**t, instead of being a civilized country. Can't believe this the the world's rolemodel. Even the good guys make me nauseous, like this guy looking for a modelling gig. Figures he can't make a living, an economist with morals in the US is like a pink panther.

Franc Esca
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

...they do hire men.... And this wording of the gender pay gap has been completely twisted by society.

Maureen Matthew
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More of this nonsense. There is NO pay gap - women and men make choices about their work and those choices affect their pay. Many women work part time (for various reasons) and part time work is not generally a route to high paying jobs. If you compare degree for degree, hours worked for hours worked, employer sector for employer sector, years of experience for years of experience etc there is no gap. But don't compare a woman working part time with a gender studies degree and working in a non-profit organization for two years to a man working full time (and probably more) with an engineering degree for 10 years, I work as an evaluator evaluating government programs and I earn the same as my male colleagues, probably more in some cases

Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you compare same careers and experience men still make more than women. Spain did a fantastic study about it and in all professions (except childcare I think) men earned more no matter the hours or expertise.

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Si
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people doing the recruiting aren’t paying the bills.

Tres D
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There have been many studies that explain the reason for this. The problem is that people don't want to hear it. 1. In general they spend less time In the work force. 2. They're less aggressive when it comes to talking about pay. #FactsMatter #TruthMatters

Vera1
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only none of this is true. Women are paid less then their male counterparts for the same job per hour. Meaning, when working the same amount of hours, they still are paid less. For example (and this is just an example) men are paid 1 dollar per hour, women are paid 80 cent per hour. It does not have anything to do with how many hours they work over all. Second of all women do ask about raises and promotion. They are just denied more often. And then we're not even getting into the whole thing where women are perceived as aggressive or moaning when they are exhibiting the exact same behaviour as men are, therefore being penalised double

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Norart
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

S. Tor Storm: dissent is not allowed here! Unless you agree with everyone! Come on man, free your mind.

soni w
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Haha love it! I get zillions of downvotes here, I fuckn thrive on it! No hugs and kisses from this free mind for ignorant snowflakes! Bring on the snowstorms and avalanches and fury of truth!

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Tumo Nakadashi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone is paid exactly what they value themselves at. The only exception are slaves.

Felix Gee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did this guy get his economics degree from the same school as AOC?

sofacushionfort
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why would Dennis Prager spend money on a pair of pants when he doesn't need them to make his videos? Dennis Prager's pants are just as mythical as this so-called "wage gap."

Stille20
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is Prager joking? ... Like self deprecating humor...if not it's just an odd thing to say... but this feels like men getting excited to explain how woke they are about women's issues.

Chewie Baron
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else notice the very slow striptease he was doing? Anyone?

DanieLegz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm all for equality but what if there's jobs that men perform better/quicker than most woman and also, the jobs that woman can do better/quicker than most men? I personally think pay should be based on the individual, as even some men/women aren't as good as other men/women but get paid the same as people doing the same job but better/quicker. You can think my comment is sexist but it's not, I'm talking about both sides. Whoever, no matter what the age, gender, sexual preference or what they eat for breakfast, the best person for the job should get the higher pay and if people are equal then they get equal pay but if they don't reach the same level then they shouldn't..

Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There aren’t jobs that men or women can perform better. It is a very uneducated and sexist statement.

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Scyth
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How the goalposts have changed. Before it was "a woman gets paid less than a man", now it is "women overall get paid less than men". So the gender pay gap no longer exists in the conventional sense, and the new definition is in no way related to sexism.

Norart
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I have a college degree but have never owned a business, so I'm an expert on this topic.

S. Tor Storm
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Look at that beta male simp face cherry-picking studies! Good job! lol

S. Tor Storm
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The gender pay gap is thoroughly debunked a million times. Women choose other jobs and that's pretty much the whole reason for any difference in pay. But by all means, let's get more women into wars and deadly construction work! Gotta have equality.

El Dee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He doesn't think there's a gender pay gap because he's never been victim to it. It's like how many white people don't see racism..

Carol Emory
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a white woman, I see racism everyday. I don't tolerate it. But the door swings both ways. Just because I'm white doesn't mean I'm automatically a racist. No one knows my background, where I grew up, who my friends were and what kind of hardships I've had to face. So why is it automatically assumed that I'm racist?

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Truth Monster
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So the "wage gap" and how it came to exist depends on who you listen to. From the conservative standpoint (which is what PragerU is) women are making life choices such as taking large chunks of time off to have children or to take care of ailing family. This means the "wage gap" isn't evil, its women making life choices because they are free to do so. Of course, you could call it patriarchy that expects women to be the primary caregivers, but that's a tangent. Men, statistically speaking, do not take large chunks of time off. My opinion: If you really want to solve a wage gap in the most logical way possible, then make it mandatory for employers to make public what they pay for each position. That way if there is a disparity based on sex, it becomes readily apparent.

Kathryn Baylis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The last company I worked for made us sign an agreement—-at orientation—-not to discuss pay with other employees. Needless to say, I was exposed to COVId in the office, the company never even acknowledged it much less addressed it, and expected me to still come in to the same office where I was exposed to the virus. I had to resign to quarantine. On that last day, I contacted the fellow employees who weren’t corporate puppets and told them how much I was being paid. I can only hope that started some conversations. F**k that company’s gag order policy, especially considering the pay range they advertise but don’t ever offer.

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N G
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is also a different pay gap - at least covered by the EU men and women are (and it's illegal not to be) paid the same for doing the same work. So there is a different pay gap - where women earn less OVERALL as a percentage of the men's wage. This happens where more men are hired than women, so the total wages paid to women is less than to men. And also (bare with me) women tend to favour lower-paying jobs. Before you hit the downvote - all this means is that the jobs women favour (because they better accommodate childcare needs etc) are not valued as highly - a cashier is paid less than a mechanic, for example. A teacher earns less than a banker. A police officer is paid more than a nurse - this last one (in the UK) is important; they're both government funded so market forces aren't a factor. (They both earn less than an MP, which is a different matter again).

Laura Vanotti
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is sad reading: I’m a woman, I work in the Financial Sector and I’ve been paid less than my male colleague who does the same job. BTW, he has children and I don’t. Child care as reason for underpaying women? We left the sixties three generations ago but I see here that some people got stuck.

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John Louis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everything I have ever seen on PragerU is nothing more than right wing propaganda with no regard to unbiased, fact based reporting on social issues. It exists to advance a reactionary agenda.

Hugo Raible
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Check out Jordan Peterson. I'm not agreeing with everything he says, but most of it has a solid foundation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

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PeachPossum
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay, let's look at a female-dominated field, nursing: Men still make more than women. Male RNs make about $7000 more, despite having less education and fewer certifications, than their female counterparts. Men generally earn double for secondary nursing care. They also negotiate more often, more successfully. A year or so ago, I read an article about a woman who underwent transgender surgery and returned to his job afterwards. The author focused on the difference in the way coworkers treated him before and after surgery. Friends told him after the surgery that he needed to be far more assertive in the way he spoke. Not long afterward, he negotiated the biggest salary increase of his career. He was in shock that not only did he ask for the raise but got it without any pushback. Before the surgery he was scared to death he'd lose his job if he asked for that much. I wish I could remember the author's name...

Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BINGO! My mom was a unit manager, and a first-year nurse fresh from school got the same pay she did.... with zero experience. She had over 25 years, and as a head nurse on the unit for five. But he said, "Wah! I want more !" and so he got it. A woman does that, she's lucky to still have a job the next day.

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Marcellus the Third
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No pay gap? Yeah that's why when the BBC had to reveal the top salaries it paid, you had this heap of men you'd never think of (e.g., the face of an occasional DIY programme) ahead of any women including those fronting major programmes.

Paul Davis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Makes me wonder how that twit Prager can not think there's a gender pay gap. This has been proven, repeatedly. Like, how hard do you have to keep your eyes and ears sealed shut to information to keep your bigoted opinions?

Hugo Raible
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It has been proven repeatedly that if you control for all other factors like field, education, overtime... that the wage gap almost vanishes. A lot of these factors are life choices.

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Yvette Desmarais
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An addition reason, in the US, it's it's been traditional when changing jobs is to base a new rate or previous rates of pay. If someone, say a woman, starts at a low rate of pay early in her career, that follows her for years. Some states have made asking about pay rates illegal. This helps.

Sheila Stamey
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

James for President, ( of everything he wants, because he's a good person, not a guy) and Dennis for head stripper ( whatever he can get paid stripping, clothes, furniture, leaves, etc. Because he is an arsehat and looks like every guy executive I've ever worked for, or applied for work to, and saw him pass over a woman with better quality experience and stats because some guy who LOOKED like Alex Trebek walked in and shook his hand.) No disrespect to either the late Alex Trebek, or Trebekkies, which I am also.

Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well-off old white dude says there's no misogyny, and if there is, who cares. UGH. Just... ugh.

Wilf
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Gender pay gap is also worsened due to limits on progression opportunities. Women are even in 2021 more likely to take career breaks or work part time due to child care. This means women are often working significantly more junior roles compared to men when they reach middle-age. In the UK's biggest 500 companies, there are more CEO's called Steve then there are women CEO's combined!

SeidWolf
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We can also stop him at his first honest implied confession "you know what I don't understand? " Yes, something about which you are about to have an opinion without trying to begin to understand. The next time you hear someone about to say something that starts with you know what I don't understand, stop them right there and say maybe you should try educating yourself so you understand before you decide to express an ill-formed opinion

Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless they ask a quesstion immediately after "I don't undrstand." B/c I often start with "I don't understand... Show me?"

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Grumble O'Pug
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

PragerU is garbage. Dennis couches his point in the typical false narrative that implies that it is unassailable. Wrong Dennis, you are the problem. Pretending like it doesn't exist IS the problem.

Hugo Raible
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You might be more happy with Jordan Peterson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

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Damo Lee Park
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

so it has NOTHING to do with the fact that women are traditionallu choosing jobs that earn less money to start with? Are we meant to pay childcare workers the same as brain surgeons to rectify the wage gap? But someone will say " I work the same position as a man and he gets more than me". That's probably true. Has he been there longer than you? annual pay rises would account for that then. Did you negotiate your own contracts? Women have been shown to undervalue themselves in negotiations, probably because they're scared if they ask for the same money as Dave, they'll get the sack. But here's the thing. you'll probably end up, making the same money as Dave, no tunemployed. These are just 2 ways the wage gap has been proven as a lie. But keep telling us all how it's a real thing, because that will solve everything

Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is been proven that even in the same profession women get paid less because they are seen as less capable and a liability if they get pregnant. I love how you use the doctor as an example because it is perfect. Most medicine students are women but most well paid doctors, like surgeons, are men. Because women are seen as too feeble for those specialisations and are told to not pursue them and because they are less likely to be hired and promoted to those positions.

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Sheryl Logan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He is absolutely correct. I had a job where I was the head of an all make crew so when I made them do their job I was pushy, bitchy, and was called a dyke even tho I am completely straight ( very LGBT friendly as long as the person I interact with isn't a d**k) guys who act this way are seen as doing the job because they aren't taking any crap and they are being proactive and motivational. So about 16 months ago I am out working and have 2 people in the most senior spots under watching for our customers and the we're running their mouths and not doing their jobs so because I am over them even tho I Am working I get in trouble and demoted 4 pay grades. The person who was next in line got a shift preference they wanted the 2 Nd guy got a promotion after they posted my prior job and because no where else pays what o make there and because I have 28 years into my pension I took the lower job and the 10$ an hour pay cut. Even worst part is this is a union shop

Olly
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More companies need to be transparent about their pay scale. The company I work for thankfully is, so if you have x years of experience and x amount of education you get x amount per hour. They are also transparent about how to get a raise.

mac
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was going to comment but, for some reason I am unable to type long paragraphs like others on this post. So, basically I think this is a very complicated and situational topic that requires more specific answers.

Shelby Rinck
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The pay gap is a load of crap, it only works if you use AVERAGE pay, all men's pay compared to all women's pay, and even that difference is shrinking. It falls apart if you compare same jobs. In sales, it's performance, so if a woman sells more than a man she will make more than that man. I work for a Utility, and pay is based on job, and time in that job. Men and women make the same pay for the same job.

Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, actually, it doesn't. In many places, a woman's base salary is less than a man's to start. Teaching is one where I grew up. Both have to have equal qualifications, but women will have less salary just b/c "women dob'nt get paid"..... Honestly.

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Lorelai Purvis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i am just commenting on how i absolutely love how James is wearing a chain and a swirly ring as well as his nails are painted i think its awesome

Thomas Cottone
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol, this guy is an economic illiterate. His "degree" is an undergrad degree, essentially nothing more than advanced high school in today's educational climate. And yes, the Gender Wage Gap IS a myth. Once you account for the vast disparity in hours worked per week and days worked per year, plus choice factors like college major choice, the gap shrinks to less than 3 cents on the dollar. His other videos, especially the one on minimum wage, just prove his abject ignorance of economics and that he has obviously not done any real research or statistical analysis. He's a joke.

Soon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One major reason why they hire men over women is also that the men don’t get pregnant. I’ve been at so many interviews where I’ve been asked if I plan on having children or having more children. I’ve heard people say right out that they don’t want people working there that will be away for a long period because of maternity leave.

Olof T
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What I've seen all my life is that ethnicity matters more than gender. Australia is the perfect example. Australia has a lot of internationals who come to study or work temporarily. To come to Australia you have to do a crime check and be healthy, have insurance prepared etc. That puts internationals on a fairly even ground. The worst jobs are food deliveries, car washes, cleaners etc. and undeclared work that can pay below legal minimum wages. It's almost exclusively brown/people of color who have the WORST jobs. I know this because I see this with my own eyes every day when I deliver food. My colleges are Indian, east Asian and other people who or not blond or blue eyed. The unsafe and low payed jobs are for brown people and the reason it's not talked about is probably because the people who have the influence to complain are white. Being a white woman means you have it a lot easier than the average person of color. Men of color are at the bottom of the food chain in the west.

Olof T
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Feminism is a movement for white middle class women and the "white knight" men who are trying to further their own careers by agreeing. Feminists don't want to help other women, they want to help themselves. They want votes, money and special treatment. Real equality is that no one gets any special treatment. Not positive special treatment. Not negative special treatment. Let the personal qualifications decide, not race or gender.

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James Morris
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked in the City of London as an Office Manager back in the 90's, in a financial firm. It was always a fun time when the end of year bonus and payrise interviews came around because of the behaviour of the employees. But those tales aren't what this is about. There were women and there were men working in the finance office and on paper, how much money you earned the company decided your bonus. The men would, in extreme examples, throw furniture around, scream and generally act like a bunch of spoiled children. The women would put together portfolios of their accomplishments and act like sensible gronwups. Obviously, the men on the interview panels came up screaming and throwing furniture around so they awarded the men who acted like them more money, irrespective of equevalent performance.

Xondra Galvez
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, how many women has this rude asshole with a degree in economics (probably awarded by berkeley or some other such leftist university) has hired himself? And let's remember that Bored Panda pays translators $0.02 dollars per word for the translations of their articles which they use to earn THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. Paying everyone peanuts as if they ran a sweatshop is the REAL WAY to fight wage disparities ;)

Robert Karp
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What James Ray is spouting is rhetoric that he read from books. Most of which is old beliefs that's being dredged up. Anytime the word "COULD" is inserted in the explanation means the statement is just BS. Yes there are people that are discriminative, however they aren't common place anymore. Woman aren't passive like they were in the 1940's anymore. My step mother is a retired High School English teacher. She applied for a teaching position at Strathmore High School in the late 1980's and was hired on. The principal told her they couldn't afford to pay her for her full tenure of 15 years, that they could only afford to pay her at 5 years tenure. She later learned that a male teacher in the English department, that was hired at the same time and had the same amount of tenure was hired at full tenure. My step mother was furious and took it to court. The other teachers told her to not make waves but my step mother doesn't put up with that. She won her lawsuit + backpay for full tenure.

Jan Kovář
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not saying that wage gap does not exists. I just think that the first argument is wrong. When we discuss the wage gap here, the condition is: "For the exact same work, at same location, same length and with same performance / results." In that case the wage should be same for man and woman. The first argument is about customer bias. If customer's satisfaction is higher when working with man than woman, than we no longer have the same performance / results. Isn't that a reason that justifies a difference in wages for this case? Lets reverse it. If women and men receive in such situation same wage, but the performance of man is higher, it would mean that employer is discriminating men, wouldn't it?

Nathan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder how women are getting paid less in comparison to men, because in my workplace new/younger female employees are getting better pays than seniors despite they don't have that tenure or knowledge to tackle challenges The major irony is when men at times, receive marriage proposals, girls earnings are similar to men but most of the ladies have their expectations that the man should earn more than them... If anyone is possible to explain this irony, please feel free to do so...

Bryn
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've also heard this - certain jobs in different fields pay better, and those jobs may have a higher percentage of one gender over the other. For example, there are more female nurses than male nurses. (I'm not sure of the exact number for the next one) let's say that there are more male brain surgeons than female brain surgeons. So a nurse would get paid less than a brain surgeon. But both are under the field of medicine. So some statistics might falsely report females getting paid less than males in the field of medicine, when really it's because they have different jobs.

Hugo Raible
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, exactly - it's well-known that the pay gap vanishes if you really compare apples to apples.

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Robin DJW
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am now an older retired woman. I worked 40 years for a healthcare organization, the 2nd half of that time in their IT group. At the time, the preponderance of people in healthcare were women. So when my outfit began investing in IT, 50 years ago, they staffed their IT groups with folks who knew the core business. So the preponderance of our IT people were female as well. I guess I landed in a sweet spot. Adjusted for inflation, I (with no degree or certification) was earning more at the end of my career than my father was at the end of his career (masters in nuclear engineering). I think some companies do use objective criteria for their wage scales, and they are meticulous in leaving gender out of the mix. True culture change takes time -- a lot of time. Progress is being made, but it can seem glacially slow. We've only had the vote for 100 years. We'll get there. Keep up the fight. Don't vote GOP.

Jason Doakes
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ahem, look at me LOOK AT ME!!! LLOOOOKKK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! oh yeah and some "economics", everybody with an ounce of brain already knows this, for at lest 20 years Europeans are trying to close the gap, but seems the US of Assholes was once again busy doing some other unimportant s**t, instead of being a civilized country. Can't believe this the the world's rolemodel. Even the good guys make me nauseous, like this guy looking for a modelling gig. Figures he can't make a living, an economist with morals in the US is like a pink panther.

Franc Esca
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

...they do hire men.... And this wording of the gender pay gap has been completely twisted by society.

Maureen Matthew
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More of this nonsense. There is NO pay gap - women and men make choices about their work and those choices affect their pay. Many women work part time (for various reasons) and part time work is not generally a route to high paying jobs. If you compare degree for degree, hours worked for hours worked, employer sector for employer sector, years of experience for years of experience etc there is no gap. But don't compare a woman working part time with a gender studies degree and working in a non-profit organization for two years to a man working full time (and probably more) with an engineering degree for 10 years, I work as an evaluator evaluating government programs and I earn the same as my male colleagues, probably more in some cases

Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you compare same careers and experience men still make more than women. Spain did a fantastic study about it and in all professions (except childcare I think) men earned more no matter the hours or expertise.

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Si
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people doing the recruiting aren’t paying the bills.

Tres D
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There have been many studies that explain the reason for this. The problem is that people don't want to hear it. 1. In general they spend less time In the work force. 2. They're less aggressive when it comes to talking about pay. #FactsMatter #TruthMatters

Vera1
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only none of this is true. Women are paid less then their male counterparts for the same job per hour. Meaning, when working the same amount of hours, they still are paid less. For example (and this is just an example) men are paid 1 dollar per hour, women are paid 80 cent per hour. It does not have anything to do with how many hours they work over all. Second of all women do ask about raises and promotion. They are just denied more often. And then we're not even getting into the whole thing where women are perceived as aggressive or moaning when they are exhibiting the exact same behaviour as men are, therefore being penalised double

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Norart
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

S. Tor Storm: dissent is not allowed here! Unless you agree with everyone! Come on man, free your mind.

soni w
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Haha love it! I get zillions of downvotes here, I fuckn thrive on it! No hugs and kisses from this free mind for ignorant snowflakes! Bring on the snowstorms and avalanches and fury of truth!

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Tumo Nakadashi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone is paid exactly what they value themselves at. The only exception are slaves.

Felix Gee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did this guy get his economics degree from the same school as AOC?

sofacushionfort
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why would Dennis Prager spend money on a pair of pants when he doesn't need them to make his videos? Dennis Prager's pants are just as mythical as this so-called "wage gap."

Stille20
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is Prager joking? ... Like self deprecating humor...if not it's just an odd thing to say... but this feels like men getting excited to explain how woke they are about women's issues.

Chewie Baron
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else notice the very slow striptease he was doing? Anyone?

DanieLegz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm all for equality but what if there's jobs that men perform better/quicker than most woman and also, the jobs that woman can do better/quicker than most men? I personally think pay should be based on the individual, as even some men/women aren't as good as other men/women but get paid the same as people doing the same job but better/quicker. You can think my comment is sexist but it's not, I'm talking about both sides. Whoever, no matter what the age, gender, sexual preference or what they eat for breakfast, the best person for the job should get the higher pay and if people are equal then they get equal pay but if they don't reach the same level then they shouldn't..

Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There aren’t jobs that men or women can perform better. It is a very uneducated and sexist statement.

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Scyth
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How the goalposts have changed. Before it was "a woman gets paid less than a man", now it is "women overall get paid less than men". So the gender pay gap no longer exists in the conventional sense, and the new definition is in no way related to sexism.

Norart
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3 years ago

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I have a college degree but have never owned a business, so I'm an expert on this topic.

S. Tor Storm
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3 years ago

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Look at that beta male simp face cherry-picking studies! Good job! lol

S. Tor Storm
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3 years ago

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The gender pay gap is thoroughly debunked a million times. Women choose other jobs and that's pretty much the whole reason for any difference in pay. But by all means, let's get more women into wars and deadly construction work! Gotta have equality.

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