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Homophobic Couple Ask “Dear Abby” For Advice On Gay Neighbors, Get A Lesson On Bigotry Instead
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Homophobic Couple Ask “Dear Abby” For Advice On Gay Neighbors, Get A Lesson On Bigotry Instead

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Why people choose to write to ‘agony aunts’ in an effort to solve their problems, I’ll never know. Because why talk it through with friends and family when you can have it published in a newspaper for all to see? Sometimes I think that it’s all a big scam that newspapers pull to titillate their readers with scandal, some of the scenarios are just beyond belief at times.

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That being said, the “Dear Abby” advice column has become something of a national institution. It started way back in 1956 by Pauline Phillips under the pen name “Abigail Van Buren,” and has been featured in thousands of newspapers over the years. Pauline passed away in 2013 aged 94, and her contribution to American life and culture was recognized with a “Hollywood Walk of Fame” star.

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Now run by Pauline’s daughter Jeanne, the column is still going strong as she continues to give “sound, compassionate advice, delivered with the straightforward style of a good friend.”

Image credits: Reddit

This entry, written by a couple “unhappy in Tampa,” seems like it could’ve quite easily have come from 1956. They felt like they were the victims of unfair treatment from their neighbors, and wanted Abby’s assurance that it wasn’t they that were, in fact, the problem.

“Dear Abby, My husband and I relocated to Florida a little over a year ago and were quickly welcomed into our new neighbors’ social whirl,” they wrote. “Two couples in the neighborhood are gay — one male, one female. While they are nice enough, my husband and I did not include them when it was our turn to host because we do not approve of their lifestyle choices. Since then, we have been excluded from neighborhood gatherings, and someone even suggested that we are bigots!”

“Abby, we moved here from a conservative community where people were pretty much the same. If people were “different,” they apparently kept it to themselves. While I understand the phrase “when in Rome,” I don’t feel we should have to compromise our values just to win the approval of our neighbors. But really, who is the true bigot here? Would you like to weigh in?”

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Turns out that Abby would like to weigh in. Living up to her motto of “delivering with a straightforward style,” Abby pulled no punches in setting this hypocritical and slightly deluded couple straight. “Dear Unhappy, I sure would,” she began. “The first thing I’d like to say is that regardless of what you were told in your previous community, a person’s sexual orientation isn’t a “lifestyle choice.” Gay people don’t choose to be gay; they are born that way. They can’t change being gay any more than you can change being heterosexual.”

“I find it interesting that you are unwilling to reciprocate the hospitality of people who welcomed you and opened their homes to you, and yet you complain because you are receiving similar treatment.”

“From where I sit, you may have chosen the wrong place to live because it appears you would be happier in a less integrated neighborhood surrounded by people who think the way you do. But if you interact only with people like yourselves, you will have missed a chance for growth, which is what you have been offered here. Please don’t blow it.”

Boom. Simmering with passive-aggressive sentiment, this classic from Abby still has people talking more than 5 years after it was first published. What do you think? Do you agree with Abby, or was she a little harsh? Let us know in the comments!

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Noez 🇸🇪
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As my "lifestyle choice" is being heterosexual and I openly support and will fight for the LGBTQ community I would never invite that bigot b***h to anything.

Vicky Zar
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OR you could invite them as the only hetero couple. I imagine that to be fun for them. Lol

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Bethanie Marshall
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not a religious person, but when I see this type of hate I always want to say 'why don't you let God decide whether they go to hell? Why do you feel the need to hurt these people with your hurtful words?' Of course I'm to nervous to say it.

Reilly Beryll
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From a Christian: that’s what we’re supposed to do! Be kind! Let God do the judging! That’s not our job. (At least, this is what I’ve been taught and have learned myself.) People need to just chill out and be nice to others, and treat others decently. (You’re getting an upvote. Enjoy!)

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Matt
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was born gay and if I had a choice I would've been born pansexual. I also would've been born with flamethrowers for arms that had a lucky charms cereal attachment...

Reilly Beryll
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I could have chosen, I’d have had a set of antlers, and I’d have been straight, and expelled butterflies when I puked. Sadly, we are only human, and we can’t change these things.

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Steve Cruz
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to say THANKS to Dear Abby and the many people who oppose bigotry. I turned 58 last month and never thought I'd see Equal Marriage, the end of gay purge in military and schools, and outspoken non-gay allies. You're all welcome in my home any time!

Frozengeckolover
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You're a sweety, Steve! Everyone is welcome in my home too. Just don't drink the last soda without reminding me to get more.

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Kevin Reed
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't quite understand I want to be a --------- fill in the blank you are born who you are there are always choices you made a choice to go to work , eat dinner buy that house and Love your neighbor , Im a Christian and the Bible says to Love one another it doesn't say to judge that job belongs to God believe me I already have enough on my plate .

Reilly Beryll
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We’re meant to live our lives, love others, and love God and Jesus. And acknowledge that we mess up. That’s all it is. We should mind our own business. If we can’t, help rather than condemn. Upvote for you!

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Riz Leslie
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Typical of these bigots. “They don’t accept my right to spew hate so THEY are the true bigots!” You see this everyday.

Wil Vanderheijden
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Little has changed for the better in 25 years. I'd even say it has gotten worse and it's not going to get any better. Too many people are using the "right to free speech" to spread their messages of hate on social media.

anarkzie
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I both agree and disagree, I think for the last few decades things have improved a lot but I also think things are beginning to shift back in the other direction now and it is worrying, I also agree free speech and religious rights are used as coded language for the right to discriminate.

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Christina Sersif
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stuff like this is why I turned away from the church. The bible has all these crazy rules like how you're not supposed to touch a pig's skin or a woman on her period has to go in hiding. You don't see Christian's follow this. In fact if you ask them why they say oh it's the old testament, oh things changed, but why is homosexuality not one of these things? Why do they continue to pick and choose which parts of the bible they'll follow? I just can't with religion. The whole point of Christianity is to be Christ like - meaning a loving, kind, compassionate person. Nothing else is important. Nothing. The bible is a guidebook, storybook, history book. It was written well over 2000 years ago in another language, has been heavily edited, and some parts have been omitted. How can you follow a book that old in 2019? I don't get it.

Reilly Beryll
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Old Testament is for history. The New is what Christians are meant to follow. You’re right. We’re meant to follow the teachings of the very man who earned us our name. Sadly, many aren’t good at that. People take the Bible incredibly literal as it’s the best, and only, thing we have. Sadly, they take the wrong parts and put them on a pedestal. Isn’t shrimp an abomination? And wearing clothes of mixed fabric? And planting different crops in a certain order (I can’t remember. I’m sorry if I’m wrong!) I don’t go to church for fear of rejection myself, but I do have my faith, and any place is a place to worship in my eyes. People are just jerks because others are different. (I’m sorry for butting in, and for rambling! I’m not sure if you meant that you just don’t go to church, or if you aren’t religious anymore. I don’t want to cause any trouble. I agree with you.)

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Stephanie Bladyak
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How are they compromising their values...do they think of they invite homosexuals to a party that they will automatically be indoctrinated. It sounds like they are upset because they just found out that they are major jerks and they want an advice column to make them feel better about being a-holes.

Frozengeckolover
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe they were worried that the gays would come in and spread their gayness, being gay all over the house. Lol.

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Kiahna
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“They we’re inviting you to dinner... not to their bedroom!” “It’s a dinner, not an orgy.” Finally, some logic. Gay isn’t contagious.

Sage Jay
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when a homophobe touches me I say "ew I don't want to catch the straight"

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Lara Verne
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"...and someone even suggested that we are bigots!" I can't, they sound so offended......

Reilly Beryll
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If being bisexual were a choice, why would I have gone through the years of depression and paranoia that I experienced, leaving me with PTSD and anxiety? It’s not a choice. Treat people nicely. If you punch someone, expect them to punch back. Don’t play victim. Get your priorities straight. Be kind. Don’t exclude someone for something they can’t help, especially from something that is easily accessible for everyone, like a dinner. How does one deny hospitality and expect any in return?

Ron Santos
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5 years ago

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Only if the dog is a golden retriever or golden doodle...or you're on golden pond. So something

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Heather Courier
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

love doesn't ask for your age, race or gender, love is love and meant for everyone so be kind to everyone that is kind to you. Then some day we might look at everyone and see a friend or mate.

Frozengeckolover
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm only against age if it involves a child and an adult. What two, or more, consenting adults do is none of my concern.

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Enola Brinkley-Crayton
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This just makes me sad that they chose not to include them after their open arms welcome. I doubt if they can right this wrong. I just cannot imagine anyone doing this. Hope they enjoy their dinners for 2 because that is what they are going to get.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Better yet, find a nice,closed-minded community and move there. Hopefully, the community they're in currently will get a better family.

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Melinda Stanley
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to laugh when people who are so anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-etc. are so taken aback and offended when others consider them bigoted. Well, it's not exactly what I'd call tolerant, Betsy-Sue and Jim-Bob!

KT Trondsen
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Happy to see the whole neighborhood stood up for their gay neighbors :)

Ryo Bakura
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reason aliens don't make themselves known to us is because people like them continue to say and do stupid things on a daily basis. We'd have cities on the Moon by now if the stupidity stopped. But no, homophobes have to be bigoted towards the LGBTQ+ community, Kanye had to claim slavery was a choice, and some woman had to name her daughter ABCDE. These people need to be hit in the head until the stupidity is knocked out of them.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know, in some circumstances, slavery was a choice: the choice between becoming a slave in that society or starving to death. I don't know if there are any places left in the world in our times where this can happen; this is historical. Even then, people chose life. On the other hand, Kanye is an a*s, pure and simple.

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JP
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always told my boys that life is full of choices. You always have a choice on what to do/act/say. But, all choices have consequences, and you have to live with them. You can make any choice you want, but be prepared to live with it. This couple chose to be bigots, and now being ostracized is the consequence. They need to learn to live with their choice and stop whining about the fallout.

Michèle Gyselinck
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whatever sexual orientation people may have would not prevent me from including them in a meal. Some people are gay while others are transgender. When you consider that many people born this way take their own lives because they can't stand the thought of having to live that way, who are wed to throw stones at them? I'd hate to be in their shoes.

elfin
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How does being nice to people and including them in a neighborhood party compromise your values? What are your values?

varwenea
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a pair of morons. They need to look up what the bigot means and then look in the mirror.

Katinka Min
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man, I wish it was a choice!! Then I could be bisexual. So many wonderful women out there, some even have shown interest: beautiful, creative, funny, utterly amazing women. And me a gorram 100% heterosexual. :-/

GeeGee
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is the definition of "bigot". Treating the gay couples in the way she did, contriidictes everything Christ teaches. Jesus teaches what is sin and what is love, one involves humanity and the other does not.

madapult
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Alright- go on and look it up. A man shall not lie with a man is wrongly translated from a man shall not lie with a boy meaning a man much older than the boy. And it also says God loves everyone.

A True Christian
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Seek advice from the Holy Bible, not "Dear Abby", if you are a Christian. That couple should be happy to be rejected by people that would support those lifestyles. Go make friends share your values. Stop trying to keep up with the Jones' that revel in this wicked world!

Frozengeckolover
Community Member
5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A True Christian, I hope you don't eat cheeseburgers or bacon, play football, wear polyester, have tattoos, trim your beard, shave your sideburns, braid your hair, wear pearls, or work on Saturday. Those are all sins according to the Bible. Also, you should shun divorced people, especially anyone who remarries after a divorce, with the same vehemence you have against homosexuals. There are many more sins in the Bible that I'm sure you are committing, but those are just a few that come to mind. You can believe however you want, but the world will never take you seriously when you engage in hypocritical behavior.

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Haevyn
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just so funny when people get butt hurt about being treated the same way they treated others. You exclude these two nice couples then have the audacity to be offended when they don't want your judgemental padded around? So yes

Sage Jay
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gather all the LGBT ppl you know and invite the bigots. Hold hands with each other. Be gay. Be obvious. See how they feel.

Country Nana
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm Chassidic Jewish. We begin our daily prayers with: I hereby take on the Mitzvah to live my fellow person as myself. You can't pick and choose which failings you accept and don't accept. If you believe, as those people do, that the gay coupled is sinning, do they believe that none of the other neighbors ever sin? Do they themselves never sin? Note that I never said that I personally see it as a sin, so don't attack me.

Frozengeckolover
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've brought that up as well. The arguement always seems to be that they think being gay is soooo much worse than anything they are doing. I also don't think it is a sin, but I see your point.

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NoName
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live for the day when I come across a scenario where I can drop a truth bomb on someone like this. God willing, several d******d people.

Hans
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being intolerant is one thing. To await tolerance when being intolerantis another. Pathetic.

Frozengeckolover
Community Member
5 years ago

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Kylee Alligood
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its their choice and I'm certainly not going to change them but the bible says it is wrong, but all sin is wrong there is enough sin to go around they should be treated like everybody else. For example I am Christian I disagree with Catholic people, but I do not go up and Yell at them, change them, write newspaper articles, or treat them as an outlier both physicialy or mentally.

Haevyn
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just so funny when people get butt hurt about being treated the same way they treated others. You exclude these two nice couples then have the audacity to be offended when they don't want your judgemental added around? So yes you are bigots.

Rich McCormick
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an openly gay man of 58 years I've dealt with this c**p a good part of my life. One of the blessings of my being ME is that I don't really give a rats a*s. I have a loving support community and wonderful friends and family. You wanna say that God made me wrong? Take it up with God. I know folks love to quote the Bible but keep in mind, God didn't write it, MAN did. They are stories written by men with all their flaws, opinions and prejudices. God put us here to make the best of life and love and support one another. There are too many folks, like that Tampa couple that thinks it's OK to go against God's law, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF"! BAM

Craig Monaghan
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s a waste of time trying to engage people that have not evolved from this type of mentality. My mantra comes from a Merk Twain quote (applies to Trump supporters especially) ‘Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience’—

We'llSee
Community Member
5 years ago

This is double sided in my opinion everyone involved needs to stop throwing "titles" and "c**p" around. EVERYONE.. I'm sick of it.. Yes you have a right to your beliefs, weather its wrong or ok or what the hell ever in your opinion BUT you also have a right to be ostracized because of them, and why would you even call anyone a friend you wouldn't invite to your damn wedding ? Good grief, and lastly but MOSTLY (Not a word I know) what anyone does in THEIR bedroom is THEIR business and NO ONE ELSE'S ugh.... I am just fed up sick of all this bs..

Frozengeckolover
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mostly is a word. And I agree. You can believe whatever you want, as long as you are not imposing on other people's rights and you are prepared to accept the backlash.

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KarmaQueen
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LGBTQ supporter! How wrong of them to look for approval by writing Dear Abby. They got what they deserved.

DemPugs
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jesus, it still happens now. 10 years from now, we'll all look back at how we treated these people and be ashamed.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe 100 years. But I doubt it. Seems to be human nature to look for a reason to look down on someone.

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Just a Purpler
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm probably going to go completely unnoticed or get completely hated for this but I still felt the desire to express my thoughts on this too so here goes: I don't agree with Abby. I also don't entirely agree with the other couple either... I think it's very rude of them not to include the gay couple because of the choices they've made, but I do think the gay couple did make a choice, they made a choice to get married. They might not have the power to choose there sexuality, but they can choose who they marry, or if they marry at all. I know my opinion is unpopular, but I come from a faith that believes marriage should be between a man and woman. I'm not saying it should be easy for gay people to just never get married, but it's what's right. I'm bisexual too, so I get it to an extent, at least for the last 3 years I've been in love with another woman, who I know I can never be with. It hurts, but I know it's meant to be this way, and for a good reason. Anyway I know my opinion is not

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5 years ago

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Sam Kunz
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it funny that we bash conservatives for their bigotry and intolerence but when its Muslims bashing gays we over look it because we have to "respect" their culture. Funny how that works, I say that as a proud Gay man. But also one who hates double standards

Country Nana
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree 100%. As a feminist, I'm appalled at the way liberals pass over the way women are treated by Islamists.

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John Taylor
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5 years ago

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Are we sure that the letter is real? Folks can't seem to be victimized enough these days.

Karen Naylor
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5 years ago

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I DON'T THINK, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT BORN GAY. THEY ARE MADE GAY BY THE ENVIRONMENT IN THEIR HOME AND ENCOURAGED BY SOCIETY... I THINK THAT IT WAS A BLOCK PARTY AND THE WHOLE BLOCK SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVITED. JESUS TOLD HIS DISCIPLES TO LOVE EVERYONE NOT TO LOVE EVERYBODY BUT THE GAY GUY. I LIVED ACROSS THE STREET FROM TWO COUPLES; ONE MALE, ONE FEMALE. THE LADIES BAKED US A WELCOME CAKE WHOSE FLAVOR IS STILL MY FAVORITE TODAY. I DREW THEM A THANK YOU PICTURE OF THEIR HOME. THE MEN HAD MEAN DOGS THAT ATTACKED A BOY RIDING HIS BIKE BY THEIR HOUSE WHEN THEY HAD ESCAPED THEIR YARD. THINGS THAT PEOPLE GO THROUGH. I WOULD ASKED THEM IF THEY DANCED WHEN I INVITED THEM

Frozengeckolover
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am incredibly confused by your comment. Why are you yelling such jibberish!?!?

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Russian Otaku
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5 years ago

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FFS the disgusting hypocrisy and PC scum here and elsewhere. It's pretty much bigotry to hate on people who have a opinion against the current bitching victim minorities.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please slither back under your rock, or don't comment on threads like this. Do we come on your narrow-minded,fake-christian, fascist sites and troll YOU?

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Master Markus
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5 years ago

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I'm a little distracted by Cheronda's comment "certain things might be in the Bible" yeah, certain things that directly tell you to KILL MEN WHO HAVE HAD SEX WITH EACH OTHER. Just saying, you can get good advice from other places than the Bible, so maybe you should take a second look.

Lingon
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, in the early translations, it says along the line of "men that sleeps with boys" = pedophiles.

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Stille20
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5 years ago

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Really? We are turning to Dear Abby for content now?

TJler
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5 years ago

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What straight person would ever invite a gay to an event? That would be so awkward

Just Barbora
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

TJler I am bisexual, amd I have straight friend. She treats me as equal, it never bothered her nor she ever felt uncomfortable around me. She said, that she is proud of me to come out, because I was scared I will lose her. Evem her boyfriend doesn't mind. I am not some girl stealer, I don't sexuali harass girls. I am a normal human being just like u. Your sexuality doesn't define u.

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Noez 🇸🇪
Community Member
5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As my "lifestyle choice" is being heterosexual and I openly support and will fight for the LGBTQ community I would never invite that bigot b***h to anything.

Vicky Zar
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OR you could invite them as the only hetero couple. I imagine that to be fun for them. Lol

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Bethanie Marshall
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not a religious person, but when I see this type of hate I always want to say 'why don't you let God decide whether they go to hell? Why do you feel the need to hurt these people with your hurtful words?' Of course I'm to nervous to say it.

Reilly Beryll
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From a Christian: that’s what we’re supposed to do! Be kind! Let God do the judging! That’s not our job. (At least, this is what I’ve been taught and have learned myself.) People need to just chill out and be nice to others, and treat others decently. (You’re getting an upvote. Enjoy!)

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Matt
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was born gay and if I had a choice I would've been born pansexual. I also would've been born with flamethrowers for arms that had a lucky charms cereal attachment...

Reilly Beryll
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I could have chosen, I’d have had a set of antlers, and I’d have been straight, and expelled butterflies when I puked. Sadly, we are only human, and we can’t change these things.

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Steve Cruz
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to say THANKS to Dear Abby and the many people who oppose bigotry. I turned 58 last month and never thought I'd see Equal Marriage, the end of gay purge in military and schools, and outspoken non-gay allies. You're all welcome in my home any time!

Frozengeckolover
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You're a sweety, Steve! Everyone is welcome in my home too. Just don't drink the last soda without reminding me to get more.

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Kevin Reed
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't quite understand I want to be a --------- fill in the blank you are born who you are there are always choices you made a choice to go to work , eat dinner buy that house and Love your neighbor , Im a Christian and the Bible says to Love one another it doesn't say to judge that job belongs to God believe me I already have enough on my plate .

Reilly Beryll
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We’re meant to live our lives, love others, and love God and Jesus. And acknowledge that we mess up. That’s all it is. We should mind our own business. If we can’t, help rather than condemn. Upvote for you!

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Riz Leslie
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Typical of these bigots. “They don’t accept my right to spew hate so THEY are the true bigots!” You see this everyday.

Wil Vanderheijden
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Little has changed for the better in 25 years. I'd even say it has gotten worse and it's not going to get any better. Too many people are using the "right to free speech" to spread their messages of hate on social media.

anarkzie
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I both agree and disagree, I think for the last few decades things have improved a lot but I also think things are beginning to shift back in the other direction now and it is worrying, I also agree free speech and religious rights are used as coded language for the right to discriminate.

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Christina Sersif
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stuff like this is why I turned away from the church. The bible has all these crazy rules like how you're not supposed to touch a pig's skin or a woman on her period has to go in hiding. You don't see Christian's follow this. In fact if you ask them why they say oh it's the old testament, oh things changed, but why is homosexuality not one of these things? Why do they continue to pick and choose which parts of the bible they'll follow? I just can't with religion. The whole point of Christianity is to be Christ like - meaning a loving, kind, compassionate person. Nothing else is important. Nothing. The bible is a guidebook, storybook, history book. It was written well over 2000 years ago in another language, has been heavily edited, and some parts have been omitted. How can you follow a book that old in 2019? I don't get it.

Reilly Beryll
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Old Testament is for history. The New is what Christians are meant to follow. You’re right. We’re meant to follow the teachings of the very man who earned us our name. Sadly, many aren’t good at that. People take the Bible incredibly literal as it’s the best, and only, thing we have. Sadly, they take the wrong parts and put them on a pedestal. Isn’t shrimp an abomination? And wearing clothes of mixed fabric? And planting different crops in a certain order (I can’t remember. I’m sorry if I’m wrong!) I don’t go to church for fear of rejection myself, but I do have my faith, and any place is a place to worship in my eyes. People are just jerks because others are different. (I’m sorry for butting in, and for rambling! I’m not sure if you meant that you just don’t go to church, or if you aren’t religious anymore. I don’t want to cause any trouble. I agree with you.)

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Stephanie Bladyak
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How are they compromising their values...do they think of they invite homosexuals to a party that they will automatically be indoctrinated. It sounds like they are upset because they just found out that they are major jerks and they want an advice column to make them feel better about being a-holes.

Frozengeckolover
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe they were worried that the gays would come in and spread their gayness, being gay all over the house. Lol.

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Kiahna
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“They we’re inviting you to dinner... not to their bedroom!” “It’s a dinner, not an orgy.” Finally, some logic. Gay isn’t contagious.

Sage Jay
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when a homophobe touches me I say "ew I don't want to catch the straight"

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Lara Verne
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"...and someone even suggested that we are bigots!" I can't, they sound so offended......

Reilly Beryll
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If being bisexual were a choice, why would I have gone through the years of depression and paranoia that I experienced, leaving me with PTSD and anxiety? It’s not a choice. Treat people nicely. If you punch someone, expect them to punch back. Don’t play victim. Get your priorities straight. Be kind. Don’t exclude someone for something they can’t help, especially from something that is easily accessible for everyone, like a dinner. How does one deny hospitality and expect any in return?

Ron Santos
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5 years ago

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Only if the dog is a golden retriever or golden doodle...or you're on golden pond. So something

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Heather Courier
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

love doesn't ask for your age, race or gender, love is love and meant for everyone so be kind to everyone that is kind to you. Then some day we might look at everyone and see a friend or mate.

Frozengeckolover
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm only against age if it involves a child and an adult. What two, or more, consenting adults do is none of my concern.

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Enola Brinkley-Crayton
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This just makes me sad that they chose not to include them after their open arms welcome. I doubt if they can right this wrong. I just cannot imagine anyone doing this. Hope they enjoy their dinners for 2 because that is what they are going to get.

Karen Klinck
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Better yet, find a nice,closed-minded community and move there. Hopefully, the community they're in currently will get a better family.

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Melinda Stanley
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to laugh when people who are so anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-etc. are so taken aback and offended when others consider them bigoted. Well, it's not exactly what I'd call tolerant, Betsy-Sue and Jim-Bob!

KT Trondsen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Happy to see the whole neighborhood stood up for their gay neighbors :)

Ryo Bakura
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reason aliens don't make themselves known to us is because people like them continue to say and do stupid things on a daily basis. We'd have cities on the Moon by now if the stupidity stopped. But no, homophobes have to be bigoted towards the LGBTQ+ community, Kanye had to claim slavery was a choice, and some woman had to name her daughter ABCDE. These people need to be hit in the head until the stupidity is knocked out of them.

Karen Klinck
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know, in some circumstances, slavery was a choice: the choice between becoming a slave in that society or starving to death. I don't know if there are any places left in the world in our times where this can happen; this is historical. Even then, people chose life. On the other hand, Kanye is an a*s, pure and simple.

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JP
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always told my boys that life is full of choices. You always have a choice on what to do/act/say. But, all choices have consequences, and you have to live with them. You can make any choice you want, but be prepared to live with it. This couple chose to be bigots, and now being ostracized is the consequence. They need to learn to live with their choice and stop whining about the fallout.

Michèle Gyselinck
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whatever sexual orientation people may have would not prevent me from including them in a meal. Some people are gay while others are transgender. When you consider that many people born this way take their own lives because they can't stand the thought of having to live that way, who are wed to throw stones at them? I'd hate to be in their shoes.

elfin
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How does being nice to people and including them in a neighborhood party compromise your values? What are your values?

varwenea
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a pair of morons. They need to look up what the bigot means and then look in the mirror.

Katinka Min
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man, I wish it was a choice!! Then I could be bisexual. So many wonderful women out there, some even have shown interest: beautiful, creative, funny, utterly amazing women. And me a gorram 100% heterosexual. :-/

GeeGee
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is the definition of "bigot". Treating the gay couples in the way she did, contriidictes everything Christ teaches. Jesus teaches what is sin and what is love, one involves humanity and the other does not.

madapult
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Alright- go on and look it up. A man shall not lie with a man is wrongly translated from a man shall not lie with a boy meaning a man much older than the boy. And it also says God loves everyone.

A True Christian
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Seek advice from the Holy Bible, not "Dear Abby", if you are a Christian. That couple should be happy to be rejected by people that would support those lifestyles. Go make friends share your values. Stop trying to keep up with the Jones' that revel in this wicked world!

Frozengeckolover
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A True Christian, I hope you don't eat cheeseburgers or bacon, play football, wear polyester, have tattoos, trim your beard, shave your sideburns, braid your hair, wear pearls, or work on Saturday. Those are all sins according to the Bible. Also, you should shun divorced people, especially anyone who remarries after a divorce, with the same vehemence you have against homosexuals. There are many more sins in the Bible that I'm sure you are committing, but those are just a few that come to mind. You can believe however you want, but the world will never take you seriously when you engage in hypocritical behavior.

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Haevyn
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just so funny when people get butt hurt about being treated the same way they treated others. You exclude these two nice couples then have the audacity to be offended when they don't want your judgemental padded around? So yes

Sage Jay
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gather all the LGBT ppl you know and invite the bigots. Hold hands with each other. Be gay. Be obvious. See how they feel.

Country Nana
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm Chassidic Jewish. We begin our daily prayers with: I hereby take on the Mitzvah to live my fellow person as myself. You can't pick and choose which failings you accept and don't accept. If you believe, as those people do, that the gay coupled is sinning, do they believe that none of the other neighbors ever sin? Do they themselves never sin? Note that I never said that I personally see it as a sin, so don't attack me.

Frozengeckolover
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've brought that up as well. The arguement always seems to be that they think being gay is soooo much worse than anything they are doing. I also don't think it is a sin, but I see your point.

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NoName
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live for the day when I come across a scenario where I can drop a truth bomb on someone like this. God willing, several d******d people.

Hans
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being intolerant is one thing. To await tolerance when being intolerantis another. Pathetic.

Frozengeckolover
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5 years ago

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Kylee Alligood
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its their choice and I'm certainly not going to change them but the bible says it is wrong, but all sin is wrong there is enough sin to go around they should be treated like everybody else. For example I am Christian I disagree with Catholic people, but I do not go up and Yell at them, change them, write newspaper articles, or treat them as an outlier both physicialy or mentally.

Haevyn
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just so funny when people get butt hurt about being treated the same way they treated others. You exclude these two nice couples then have the audacity to be offended when they don't want your judgemental added around? So yes you are bigots.

Rich McCormick
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an openly gay man of 58 years I've dealt with this c**p a good part of my life. One of the blessings of my being ME is that I don't really give a rats a*s. I have a loving support community and wonderful friends and family. You wanna say that God made me wrong? Take it up with God. I know folks love to quote the Bible but keep in mind, God didn't write it, MAN did. They are stories written by men with all their flaws, opinions and prejudices. God put us here to make the best of life and love and support one another. There are too many folks, like that Tampa couple that thinks it's OK to go against God's law, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF"! BAM

Craig Monaghan
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s a waste of time trying to engage people that have not evolved from this type of mentality. My mantra comes from a Merk Twain quote (applies to Trump supporters especially) ‘Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience’—

We'llSee
Community Member
5 years ago

This is double sided in my opinion everyone involved needs to stop throwing "titles" and "c**p" around. EVERYONE.. I'm sick of it.. Yes you have a right to your beliefs, weather its wrong or ok or what the hell ever in your opinion BUT you also have a right to be ostracized because of them, and why would you even call anyone a friend you wouldn't invite to your damn wedding ? Good grief, and lastly but MOSTLY (Not a word I know) what anyone does in THEIR bedroom is THEIR business and NO ONE ELSE'S ugh.... I am just fed up sick of all this bs..

Frozengeckolover
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mostly is a word. And I agree. You can believe whatever you want, as long as you are not imposing on other people's rights and you are prepared to accept the backlash.

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KarmaQueen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LGBTQ supporter! How wrong of them to look for approval by writing Dear Abby. They got what they deserved.

DemPugs
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jesus, it still happens now. 10 years from now, we'll all look back at how we treated these people and be ashamed.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe 100 years. But I doubt it. Seems to be human nature to look for a reason to look down on someone.

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Just a Purpler
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm probably going to go completely unnoticed or get completely hated for this but I still felt the desire to express my thoughts on this too so here goes: I don't agree with Abby. I also don't entirely agree with the other couple either... I think it's very rude of them not to include the gay couple because of the choices they've made, but I do think the gay couple did make a choice, they made a choice to get married. They might not have the power to choose there sexuality, but they can choose who they marry, or if they marry at all. I know my opinion is unpopular, but I come from a faith that believes marriage should be between a man and woman. I'm not saying it should be easy for gay people to just never get married, but it's what's right. I'm bisexual too, so I get it to an extent, at least for the last 3 years I've been in love with another woman, who I know I can never be with. It hurts, but I know it's meant to be this way, and for a good reason. Anyway I know my opinion is not

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5 years ago

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Sam Kunz
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it funny that we bash conservatives for their bigotry and intolerence but when its Muslims bashing gays we over look it because we have to "respect" their culture. Funny how that works, I say that as a proud Gay man. But also one who hates double standards

Country Nana
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree 100%. As a feminist, I'm appalled at the way liberals pass over the way women are treated by Islamists.

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John Taylor
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5 years ago

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Are we sure that the letter is real? Folks can't seem to be victimized enough these days.

Karen Naylor
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5 years ago

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I DON'T THINK, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT BORN GAY. THEY ARE MADE GAY BY THE ENVIRONMENT IN THEIR HOME AND ENCOURAGED BY SOCIETY... I THINK THAT IT WAS A BLOCK PARTY AND THE WHOLE BLOCK SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVITED. JESUS TOLD HIS DISCIPLES TO LOVE EVERYONE NOT TO LOVE EVERYBODY BUT THE GAY GUY. I LIVED ACROSS THE STREET FROM TWO COUPLES; ONE MALE, ONE FEMALE. THE LADIES BAKED US A WELCOME CAKE WHOSE FLAVOR IS STILL MY FAVORITE TODAY. I DREW THEM A THANK YOU PICTURE OF THEIR HOME. THE MEN HAD MEAN DOGS THAT ATTACKED A BOY RIDING HIS BIKE BY THEIR HOUSE WHEN THEY HAD ESCAPED THEIR YARD. THINGS THAT PEOPLE GO THROUGH. I WOULD ASKED THEM IF THEY DANCED WHEN I INVITED THEM

Frozengeckolover
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am incredibly confused by your comment. Why are you yelling such jibberish!?!?

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Russian Otaku
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5 years ago

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FFS the disgusting hypocrisy and PC scum here and elsewhere. It's pretty much bigotry to hate on people who have a opinion against the current bitching victim minorities.

Karen Klinck
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please slither back under your rock, or don't comment on threads like this. Do we come on your narrow-minded,fake-christian, fascist sites and troll YOU?

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Master Markus
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5 years ago

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I'm a little distracted by Cheronda's comment "certain things might be in the Bible" yeah, certain things that directly tell you to KILL MEN WHO HAVE HAD SEX WITH EACH OTHER. Just saying, you can get good advice from other places than the Bible, so maybe you should take a second look.

Lingon
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, in the early translations, it says along the line of "men that sleeps with boys" = pedophiles.

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Stille20
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5 years ago

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Really? We are turning to Dear Abby for content now?

TJler
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5 years ago

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What straight person would ever invite a gay to an event? That would be so awkward

Just Barbora
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

TJler I am bisexual, amd I have straight friend. She treats me as equal, it never bothered her nor she ever felt uncomfortable around me. She said, that she is proud of me to come out, because I was scared I will lose her. Evem her boyfriend doesn't mind. I am not some girl stealer, I don't sexuali harass girls. I am a normal human being just like u. Your sexuality doesn't define u.

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