Yep, it's awful. As a scot it makes me cringe.

I take that as being part of the joke

I never have and never have personally seen someone who did that. But, I apologize that you have seen people say that. That doesn't help anything and calling me a moron does not help anything...

And, I already edited that out of my statement before you commented because I know not all Republicans are good people and there are some who would say that which only adds to the problem.

STOP equating this with all of the USA. Half or more of us do not agree with these issues and they are literally the most widely and hotly debated topics in our country; a nation that is less than 300 years old and was taken by force with—-Guns, settled with guns, fed because of guns...you get the picture. It is a nation that has guns woven deeply into it’s very birth. I’m not saying that’s good or bad. There’s just a sort of indoctrination here that other countries don’t understand. That also feeds into the abortion issue. These things are all interwoven.

TootsieTickler, what about the woman who is in an abusive relationship and can’t get away? The husband who rapes his wife? The stranger who rapes a 12 year old. You’re telling me you think those people (especially that 12 year old) should have to carry that child and go through the physical and emotional pain of pregnancy and childbirth and then the pain of separation and THEN knowing that person is out there somewhere as the result of violence? And what about the child given up? Things are not so black and white as that which is why making the choice available is the right thing to do IMO.

Also, there is no stats that show children from single parent homes are more likely to commit crimes! And you wonder why people disagree so strongly, when you openly insult large swathes of society in a few careless words. Seriously? My initial response re:abortion laws was lengthy but polite. Reading more of what you have to say has reduced my patience to explain the real world to you. Now all I wish to say is leave single parents the hell alone, it seems like you could have used some decent parenting yourself, as you appear to lack both insight and sensitivity. Also, and I mean this sincerely, get the f*ck out of other people's uteruses.

I mean, if you don't want to help single parent households, I guess we can just leave them alone. But, they need a lot of help which they aren't getting.

@DogMatic yes there are stats. It is not to say it is their fault at all, I believe you misunderstand the point of the argument. They are put in a very unfortunate situation for a variety of unfortunate reasons (Dad/mom leaves or is killed, etc). Then, Mom/Dad has to raise a child on their own with probably limited resources and their isn't enough help from other organizations (gov't included) to help. So, the stats are there. Insulting me or others doesn't help. I'm just trying to help and shed light on a problem. If we give more resources to single parent households, I think we can take care of a major part of the problem. I'm just trying to help and it doesn't help when I just get yelled at anyway. Here is a source that backs me up: "State-by-state analysis by Heritage scholars indicates that a 10 percent increase in the percentage of children living in single-parent homes leads typically to a 17 percent increase in juvenile crime." https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/rep

What about them was lies? I remember I looked up the Australian crime rates on their government website. The ones about homicide reduction came from a movie about mental health issues. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean they are lies...

I couldn't find the original Australian website I referenced, but this source is from PSU: https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.585.8899&rep=rep1&type=pdf I believe gun specific crime (ie: armed robbers/assaults) did go down after the ban in the 90s while general crime continued to rise like it was before. But, it looks like even gun related crime is on the rise since the few years after the ban. Even if what I originally thought remained true, I don't think it really matters in the long run if only gun specific crime is decreasing. Does it really matter in the end if someone assaults with a gun or if they come at you with a knife? My argument is that banning guns doesn't get to the heart of the problem, only mental health improvements do. Do you have a source that would refute these? I would be more than happy to have a civil argument if you want.

Agreed. Let's put all these pro-lifers/forced birthers in a lab, one at a time. Except the lab is on fire and they can only save one living, breathing infant *or* a storage container with 500 fertilized eggs. The living, breathing baby will win every damn time. Potential life=/= a baby.

@Debra No, they just ignore your question and call you a commie.

Just shut your mouth Maureen.

Lol tell her frank!!