@Signe Manat Hansen. No, I am not trans. Whether or not I'm trans doesn't matter. I'm making the simple observation that it's immoral to hate someone for not conforming to your belief system and not saying what you want them to. I won't go out of my way to be cruel to someone I disagree with, but I won't conform to their belief system either. I don't expect others to do that for me either. For example, I am a Christian, but I won't become angry at anyone for not calling Jesus their Lord and Savior and would never want the government to force them to do that.

@Joshua Brenneman first of all please state your opinion in a more respectful way, second of all you would need those, because each means a different thing, and everybody should have the freedom to choose what they want to be called when people are referring to them. Correct me if I'm wrong?

I think beyond he/she/they it would just be simplest to call the person by their name "Jo just left", "Lee is my best friend". Every person all ready has their own noun, and if you know them enough to know they prefer ze, you know what their name is - just use that instead of pronouns.

I don't consider him to be evil for not using someone's pronouns as long as he treats trans people politely. He doesn't have to conform to anyone's belief system. I don't know what he believes, but it's not evil to disagree with someone. For instance, Flat Earthers think the world is flat. Does that mean we have to say the earth is flat too to make them happy? No, we can believe and say what we want. Does that mean we should mock them and go out of our way to be evil towards them? Again, no. You don't even have to use any pronouns if you don't want to. Pronouns are just replacements for someone's name anyway so you could just say "Jamie is going to the park" instead of "She's going to the park" and "Jamie's backpack" instead of "Her backpack." Once again though, no one has to conform to anyone else's belief system if they don't want to.

Not that hard?!?!?! Dude, what does Ze, Xe, and Fae even mean? If people want those pronouns that's fine but if you go up to any random person on the street very few of them are gonna know what "Ze, Xe, and Fae".

Fae??? Really??? I never knew that. Is it based off the creature fae?

Besides whatever Elon Musk is saying, the pronouns are about a very subtle discussion. I don't think anyone can claim pronouns, changes in language are given by the masses. The discussion on transsexuality etc is not about pronouns but about being who you want to be and the rest of the world leaving you at it. But. That goes only as long as what you want to be has no further influence on daily lives. And this is important. Within that discussion, even people who feel they are affected themselves can't find one point of view (because they focus on their personal situation). I don't like forcing the world around you to jump through hoops if all you want is to be accepted as a person. Acceptance does not come through making up an imaginary perfect world and claiming that be the only real place. Acceptance is a two way street. How in the world is anyone able to know what pronouns to use if there is no clear distinction? The answer is simple, we stop differentiating completely. But that's my two cents that I just hope will be the future.

Language changes naturally and slowly, only the fascists imposed newfangled words in Italy and ways of addressing people, in the 1920s. Educate yourself: Also, look up the definition of 'newspeak'.

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And, on the subject of Mr. Musk. Y'all realize who the coupon's baby mama is right? Twitter leaves no room for subtleties and that's his game. Your own judgement will be exposed instantaneously. Grimes herself even fell for it a few years ago. He just loves to see the peasants fight.

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Why the hell would you even need those

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Are you trans, Ninja? Didn't think so. Respect people's pronouns.

@Joshua I need those because they make me feel valid. Tell me more about how it directly affects your life.

@David, I’m sorry for your loss. I don’t tell people who are transgender congratulations until they completly transition healthily. It is hell that he was going through, partly because people told him that he was invalid. You went through a terrible thing, yet you still decide to make others hurt, that’s what I don’t understand. Sorry, but unfortunately the world we live in is that even when your life is hell and you feel terrible you don’t get to treat others badly, as you did. Maybe I am a freak, but I can’t change that. Why do you want others to go through what your brother did?

Yes it is sad. Sad that others decide to get so butthurt that they decide to do something that could cause someone to k1ll themeself instead of accepting it even though it doesn't really affect them at all and they dont have the right to tell me who I am and who I'm not. And dont avoid it, really, tell me how does this directly affect you. Certainly it doesnt affect your mental health so much that you hate your body and want to leave it and you think something is wrong with you and your family insists its a phase and your friends say your just doing to for clout and attention because thats how it affects me.

@davidhetsler I don't agree with you, but 1. I'm sorry about your brother, and 2. I must congratulate you on your creative insults, and I plan on using mental fruitcake

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You depend on others using your preferred pronoun to feel validated? How sad.

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@Heher-whatever the f**k. My brother killed himself because f*****g mental fruitcakes like you kept telling him how great and strong he was for his transition while COMPLETELY ignoring the hell he was going through. When you watch a loved one- assuming you ever could possibly have one- go through hell and have s**t-for-brains idiots pushing him further into the abyss to the point of suicide, then you may have something to say. Until then, continue being a fucktard "my pronouns" asshole and live your empty life searching for new ways to be a victim. In summary, go f**k yourself with your pronoun bullshit, freak.

imo this doesn't make you any better than that incident with quvenzhané wallis, where a journalist was like "can i just call you annie?". elon's kid's name IS dumb and actually unpronounceable, but neopronouns have legitimate uses, and to say that you won't use them just shows that you don't care. if you can call someone by their name, or remember to use , for example, he or they when the person in question really looks to you like a she, then you can use their neopronouns of choice.

That’s why I say “he” or “she”, loosely.

The problem isn’t language though. If ze and xe end up getting proper usages then everyone will use them. The problem is that any individual can just make something up and start demanding that other people use it. There’s no proper usage for some of the things people make up, and they strictly apply to one person. That’s like asking someone to participate in your own cosplay and it isn’t right. If you don’t like he or she, then the perfect alternative is to be called “they.” You don’t just make things up and start asking people to remember each and every singular individual person’s request when often times the requests aren’t even gender based (like phleemself etc).

@Mewton neopronouns have existed for thousands of years. Many many genders have been used before recorded time. We aren’t making it up. ‘Oh people just keep making up new names. If you have a girl name them Jessica. If you have a boy name them Dave. If you want a gender neutral name then Adrian will do just fine. Asking me to remember who is Annakah and who is Sakura is like asking me to participate in your own cosplay and it isn’t right.’ See? It’s ridiculous. When people use they/them then people complain that the singular they doesn’t work. When we use neopronouns you claim that we are just making new ones up and you have not remember them. JUST USE PEOPLES PREFFRED PRONOUNS I DONT ACTUALLY CARE WHAT YOU THINK

It’s just a name... for heaven sakes.

@Mewton, are you... your seriously.... um yeah ok. Crap you found out I'm a dragon not a human. Shut up please :)

how about you just respect the pronouns people choose and stop being, you know, a bigot, AND insensitive, and just a little lazy. if it's in a text situation, the pronouns are often right there where you can be reminded of them, in case you forget, and if it's someone you encounter irl, just politely ask them about the pronouns if you forget, and then either they pass out of your life or stick around long enough for you to remember. i don't imagine anyone who uses rarer pronouns will be terribly interested in hanging around you for long, though.

JUST ACCEPT WHAT PRONOUNS PEOPLE TELL YOU THEY USE AND STOP PUTTING YOUR OWN OPINION ON THEIR IDENTITY

If you can’t accept that you are a human person (which is identified easily with “they / them”) then that’s your own problem. I go by she and if someone called me “they” i would find that acceptable. Don’t be trashy and a liar. “They” isn’t an opinion. It’s a fact. “Ve / ver” is an opinion, one that I don’t give a shīt about. Have a cosplay kink if you want, but you don’t get to involve me.

I'm not imposing stupid meaningless words on anyone, moron.