Oh heck, the stand-your-ground rule might actually work for this!

Lol I wouldn't be surprised.

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Or, since women want all this autonomy and choice over their bodies, they can show a little responsibility with their bodies in the first place by taking proper precautions and not letting dudes bust in them... Abortion should not be treated as a form of birth control when there are literally so many forms of it to prevent pregnancy. Playing a game of semantics doesn't change the fact that you are terminating a pregnancy. Furthermore, it's not an infiltration if you literally invited it in the first place by spreading your legs. God, you people are dumb. Maybe it's best if you don't reproduce.

I read this message and all I can think is, "And you're calling us dumb?"

Neat trick. Because the above comment was hidden, you couldn't comment on it. Maybe by saying something really radical, like, the above examples had nothing to do with using abortion as birth control. ( I never did know anyone that had an abortion as a means of birth control.)

Or, since pregnancy can happen during rape, while taking birth control, and while using a condom, we can stop acting like it's always a woman's fault that she's terminating. There's a law being proposed to jail women for having an abortion no matter what the circumstances. A 16 year old girl shouldn't be put in jail because she made a mistake and a woman shouldn't be jailed because she was raped. And even if those circumstances weren't the case and she simply wasn't careful, what do you care? It's not like you give any s**t about the baby, are going to help her with the baby, or offer better education services to her about birth control, increase benefits for single mothers, or punish the man in the equation (why isn't he being threatened with jailtime? Oh I know...). If she's so irresponsible, why would you want her to have a baby? Stop fetishizing fetuses when you could give a s**t about them once they're born.

You're over here acting like every pregnancy is a woman's fault and only her responsibility to prevent. What if all precautions are taken and a pregnancy still occurs? I suppose she just shouldn't be having sex, right? My god, think before you type!!!

And? You say "End a pregnancy." Like you mean, "murder your child." A human that isn't born will only be missed by it's mother and maybe a few others people. It has no life to leave behind and experiences no pain during an Abortion. This world on the other hand is not a good place for anyone. If a mother is certain enough to go through with an abortion she probably isn't ready to have a kid which can mess up that kids life from the very beginning. Now, a woman should never EVER be forced to give up her baby pre or post birthday but that's a whole nother issue.

Like I just said, I can't respond to that nitwit because her comment is hidden (didn't want you to think I was stalking you, lol). Apparently she still hasn't figured out the original person was talking about extenuating circumstances (like my mother had, but don't even start me on that). Think back to the fifties and the idiot attitudes then. I guess they figured it would be easier to let her and the baby die. In order for her to live she had to go to three different doctors, each verifying the likelihood of her impending death, and a judge for permission, before she could have a therapeutic abortion. I guess I got started anyway, huh? It just makes me so damn mad. But, I guess, according to "Saint Lynnie", she shouldn't have spread her legs for her husband of some 12 years, aka, my Dad. Because, as we all know condoms didnt/don't fail. Dumb cow!

You keep bring up D&C- and I do know what it is- as a counter to what we're talking about, which is changing the language around abortions the way that politicians change the tax language to commit the same crime, but get away with it because they found a loophole in the language. I'm not sure if you understand the point of the conversation. A D&C is a procedure to remove tissue from inside your uterus. Doctors perform them to diagnose and treat certain uterine conditions — such as heavy bleeding — or to clear the uterine lining after a miscarriage or abortion. It has nothing to do with changing the language to get around certain ridiculous laws that are coming up.

You think that everyone thinks as you do, has the same level of education, financial ability and self-esteem as you but they might not. I get the personal responsibility argument, I really do, but there are people out there, grown adults, who still think you can't get pregnant at night. Or don't understand how their cycles work. Or are pressured into it by boyfriends who tell them they'll leave them and because they have such low self-esteem, they give in. So you don't believe in abortion, that's a valid belief. But why not then increase funding for education programs, improve free birth control, better day care options, more funding for benefits when the child is born, better state facilities for foster care, etc. Someone who doesn't have money to have a child isn't just magically going to find it when they agree to keep the baby. What's done is done. I'd rather her have a safe abortion than to see what will happen to the kid once it's born.

You are really on here trying this s**t, grow up!

Yes, it's still an abortion. It's called therapeutic abortion and it's done to save the life of the mother or to spare inhuman pain to a child that is probably not going to live more than a few months always in pain. And in the first case, as a fetus is not a human being by law, the duty of the doctor is to save the mother, that, by law is a human being that have the right to live. Getting a f*****g therapeutic abortion.