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Parent Makes Adult Daughter Face The Consequences Of Her Own Actions When Anxiety Takes Over
Parent Makes Adult Daughter Face The Consequences Of Her Own Actions When Anxiety Takes Over
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Parent Makes Adult Daughter Face The Consequences Of Her Own Actions When Anxiety Takes Over

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Parenting isn’t always about fixing problems, it’s also about teaching responsibility. While it’s natural to want to step in and help, sometimes letting kids navigate their own challenges can be more beneficial in the long run. Learning to handle difficult situations independently is a key part of growing up.

One parent stood firm when their 18-year-old daughter, who struggles with anxiety, called home asking to be picked up from a road trip after a disagreement with friends. Sticking to their boundaries, they told her she’d have to figure it out herself. Now, the debate is on: was this tough love, or too harsh? Keep reading to see what people think!

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    Anxiety in childhood and adolescence can look very different—what worries a young child might not even phase a teen, while teenage anxiety is often more complex

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    We can all agree, being a teenager isn’t easy. You’re stuck in that weird in-between stage where you’re expected to start acting like an adult while still figuring out who you are. One moment, you’re excited about newfound independence, and the next, you’re completely overwhelmed by responsibilities you never asked for. It’s a lot to juggle, and for many teens, this phase comes with a fair share of anxiety.  

    And let’s be real, anxiety isn’t just the occasional stress over an exam or a big game. It’s that nagging, overwhelming worry that doesn’t just go away, making even normal, everyday things feel like a huge deal. Whether it’s worrying about school performance, fitting in, or the uncertainty of the future, anxiety has a way of creeping into different parts of life.

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    Interestingly, what kids worry about changes as they grow up. When they’re little, fears are more external, like monsters under the bed, the dark, or creepy crawlies. But as they hit their teen years, their worries shift inward. Now, it’s all about grades, social status, how they look, and what others think of them. The pressure to be “good enough” at everything can feel unbearable.

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    According to a 2019 report by the National Institutes of Health, nearly one in three adolescents (ages 13 to 18) will experience an anxiety disorder at some point. That’s a pretty big number, and yet, so many teens struggle in silence because they’re either too good at hiding it or don’t even realize what they’re going through.  

    The tricky part? Anxiety doesn’t always scream for attention—it sneaks in. Some teens might seem perfectly fine on the outside but struggle with constant worrying, irritability, or trouble focusing. Others might start avoiding social situations, complaining of stomachaches or headaches, or suddenly losing interest in things they used to love.

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    Loved ones can play a crucial role in helping teens manage anxiety by offering support, reassurance, and understanding

    And while every teen has tough days, certain signs could point to something more serious. Persistent fears and worries about everyday situations, extreme self-consciousness or sensitivity to criticism, and avoiding new or challenging experiences can all be red flags. A sudden drop in grades or refusing to go to school might indicate deeper struggles, as can feeling restless, irritable, or overwhelmed without a clear reason. These behaviors, though sometimes subtle, can signal that a teen is dealing with anxiety and may need extra support.

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    As a parent, friend, or sibling, it’s important to keep an eye out for these signs. If a teen seems to be struggling, the first step is simply talking to them. Let them know they’re not alone, that what they’re feeling is valid, and that there are ways to manage it.  

    If anxiety starts interfering with their daily life, it might be time to reach out for extra support. Mental health professionals like psychiatrists, psychologists, or counselors can provide the right tools to help them navigate these feelings. Sometimes, just having someone to talk to makes all the difference.  

    In this particular case, the parent was trying to push their child toward independence while also setting boundaries. But was it tough love, or was it too harsh? What do you think? Let us know your thoughts!

    Many people online believed the parent made the right choice, as it would teach their 18-year-old independence and resilience

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    Others felt that, as a parent, it was their responsibility to step in and help their child navigate the situation

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    Opinion of Psychologist Daniel Hoadley

    As the OP stated that his daughter was in therapy up until 18, it might be time to go back. It shouldn’t be seen as a ‘failure’ but rather as a ‘touch-up’ or reevaluation of coping methods.

    Certain types of therapy for anxiety focus on teaching coping strategies so the patient can navigate the outside world independently. The parents’ idea of ‘actions have consequences’ is fine, as long as it’s supplemented with a gentle point in the direction toward returning to therapy. – Daniel Hoadley


     

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    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    omg the amount of infantilization from the YTA crowd that now claim that an 18 year old is a kid. is it because they don't want to accept they themselves are old since they are not that age? An 18 year old is an adult, legally and otherwise. They can vote, they can drink in most of the world, they drive a car and own property. And they certainly can manage their own mental problems (if they put effort into it like not leaving therapy) or accept the consequences of their own actions.

    Lisa Barbeau
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. Since when is an 18 year old unable to anticipate consequences? Toddlers can anticipate basic consequences.

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    Ebony
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the things I read in the responses was that OP had her daughter in therapy to help her cope with her anxiety. The daughter stopped going once she turned 18. I can imagine the conversation was something along the lines of, 'I'm 18, I'm an adult, and I can do what I want to do'. Mom was like, 'fine do what you want. Don't come calling me when you get in a situation '. Actions have consequences.

    Sheila Bew
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. If the daughter is refusing to continue therapy then the mom has to put her foot down. If people think her mom not picking her up has created trust issues between them then the daughter has a bigger problem. How many times have you parents, when you were children got upset with parents and lost trust in them. Let’s be real here. If the mom was adamant about her not going to the beach and the daughter got upset with get mom, what would your comments be? Do you think she would be upset and feel a lack of trust with her mom. I promise you are back talking as normal.

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    Charles McChristy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LMAO, all of these YTA's are funny, and this is coming from someone with a full blown panic disorder. She's an adult, she was cautioned ahead of time, her father couldn't just leave work, and she dropped out of therapy that she obviously needs. NTA!

    Lost Penny
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You abandoned her all alone in a new scary place, far away from home, in the middle of nowhere!!111" Oh for the love of... She wasn't in the middle of nowhere, all alone with nowhere to go. She was in her friends' car & she didn't want to sit there & wait for them to come back. 18 is not a baby!

    three norns
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the ppl saying "you broke your daughter's trust" .... She said she would not come get her if she insisted on making a bad decision. Now we're saying that *keeping her word* is "breaking trust"???? If the daughter had said she broke her arm or was assaulted or abandoned by her friends, 100% mom would've left work and making like a Valkyrie to get to her. But pick her up because the expected happened? No. The lesson is STOP MAKING DECISIONS OUT OF PIQUE!

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't a new condition, these are presumably her close friends, so this won't be unexpected. Daughter took a calculated risk and it didn't work, it was hers to take, as is the Uber.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could have been handled better but 18yo is going to have to learn some lessons if she wants to cope in the real world. The first one being if someone tells you they think something is a bad idea, listen. Especially if that person is your mother who knows you better than you know yourself. Yes, yes, anxiety - more people have it than you think. It's how you deal with it that matters. 18 needs more therapy with someone to teach her coping mechanism and rationalisation. I can recommend someone here in London ;-)

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this was a good thing. OP isn’t shielding her daughter from her anxiety anymore and she’s feeling the impact. Once things cool down, op should discuss returning to therapy with her daughter and be clear that she will help her but not enable her.

    AsylumWalker
    Community Member
    12 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah or shes just made the anxiety worse for her and now home doesn't feel like a safe space anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Lew k
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a person with horrible anxiety. The op is right. Daughter has to learn to cope with life or avoid triggers. Anxiety is terrible. I spend 90% of my life feeling like I have an test that will alter the course of my life in an hour. That said if you don't learn how to live with it you'll be a burden your whole life. Going to the grocery store is a huge trigger for me. Such a basic thing. Sure I could lean on my issues and make the wide do it every time but that not fair. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and not let your disability define you. I was awarded disability for my anxiety. I chose to leave the free money for life on the table and go back to work because I didn't want a life of fixed income. You can still live a full normal life with anxiety but not if someone gives you a safety net and bails you out your whole life.

    Jack Sonol
    Community Member
    12 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Speaking from experience and observation, when people with even mild anxiety are coddled it exacerbates the anxiety. You can't learn how to cope with anxiety by avoiding it.

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    Alex Schneider
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They did it well, both of them. You can't learn to soothe yourself or find solutions if someone else do.She got therapy,she will have some tools to work with and empower herself . Step outside her comfort zone call an uber and drive home all alone and tell their friends why is already a big move. Parents can tell her she had done good, (even if it feels like a fail to her) without release her from her consequences..

    Sarah Kathrin Matsoukis
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have anxiety prime but I'm not stupid, I learned to predict triggers and plan accordingly. I'm not making it other people's problem, if something is worse than expected, proper coping mechanisms.

    Orange Panda
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, why was she allowed to stop therapy? This is where "my house, my rules" comes in. My mom would have absolutely not allowed that choice. You want to leave therapy, you can leave the house.

    Sergio Bicerra
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's where the tough love comes handy, agree with you 100%

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    Sunny Day
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope 18yo has to pay the Uber bill and not mom. I do feel some sympathy for daughter. I backed out of a college trip to Canada. They had a van instead of the bus I was expecting. No bathroom. I have IBS and it flares up with stress. Not having a bathroom available makes me stressed. No way could I get in that van when they said "next bathroom stop 4 hours". I had to call my dad to come and get me after he had just dropped me off.

    Snow_White
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand people like the daughter. She just sounds weak, spoiled and entitled, expecting everyone to accommodate her weird anxieties. She knew what the plans were but went anyways against everyone's recommendations and then expected to be 'saved' like a little helpless princess.

    OrangeStripey Hat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm guessing you don't know much about anxiety? I believe the parent did the right thing. But I don't believe the girl acted like a helpless princess. She acted like someone with severe anxiety. It's a thing that people suffer from. Even if you choose to belittle them

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    Jack Sonol
    Community Member
    12 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One commenter said that as an 18 year old they can't anticipate consequences. This is a vast and extreme misunderstanding of brain development. The brain isn't FINISHED developing until around 25 for most people, but you get 99% of your brain development before 18. Plenty of people 18 and younger can perfectly anticipate consequences. Also, my best friend had Acute Social Anxiety Disorder and he joined the US Marines. Anxiety does not make you incapable.

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    Premium
    12 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe I'm alone but I didn't see this as an "anxiety" problem, it seemed like an "I didn't get my way so now I want to leave problem. I would have done the same thing. Time to grow up and deal with the reality of adulthood.

    John Tunnicliffe
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tumbleweed-of-doom you are right. As a parent I fully understand the sheer exhaustion and frustration when your child has to navigate through a world that is out of step with them. You want them to be able to stand on their own two feet but anxiety is so insidious. People want to get help but seeking help raises their anxiety and prevents them gaining help. You try to chip away at their worries and although they for a moment show bravery and try to be ‘normal’ and be one of the gang, you know what is going to happen. Do people really think we want our children not be able to stand on their own two feet? NTA but you did lose your daughter’s trust. If you suffer from anxiety yourself, you make doubly, trebly or even googillionly ways to make sure your child doesn’t suffer the same way you did.

    Jo Murphy
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She insisted on going when her parents warned it would be too much. Parent said, ok, but I'm not coming to get you if it gets too much. Parents knows it often gets too much. It got too much. What did the daughter think would happen? She's quit therapy, what was her plan for when she got overwhelmed and wanted to come home? Did she just expect that wouldn't happen, despite all prior evidence to the contrary? OP is right, if she can't go without freaking out, and has no coping skills in the event of a freak out, and her friends aren't willing to ruin their holiday to accommodate her freak out...why should the parent have to leave work to get her? If an Uber costs $250, a day off work and petrol presumably costs as much. How does saying 'I don't think you should go and I'm not coming to get you' and then not coming to get her 'break trust'. The trust is that they promised not to come, she didn't break it! Kid needs to get back in therapy and get some strategies for dealing.

    Ray Bolen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good that the parent said no at 18. Better than letting daughter's behavior turn into a habit.

    Peppy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, 18 is not a kid, I left home at 16 for goodness sake! Suck it up buttercup x

    Ruth Watry
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It could make daughter's anxiety worse. My niece has similar issues, and even when my sister tries to talk her out of things that may be too much for her, my sister is still there for her, and my niece is slowly making progress (she 22)

    Bewitched One
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She might make more progress if your sister did something similar

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    Mimi M
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neither option was great.

    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. She was warned, & also ignored/argued about his concerns at the time, so this is completely on her. Maybe she could have apologised/made up with her friends if she didn't want to spend so much money on an Uber. You all deserve better public transportation over the Pond, too.

    Wheeskers
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the yta had their kids in safety vests and helmets at the park. There's a time for compassion there's a time for personal responsibilities. Parents did the right things and daughter wanted to branch out. Learning she wasn't ready is not on mom, it's on the girl and learning life isn't always happy happy is a good lesson for anyone.

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once got confused by trains in Richmond after an evening job interview - all the trains were going away from where I wanted to go, I didn't realise it was a loop, and I panicked about not getting home. This was 1980s, before mobiles and sat navs. I rang my parents and they came the 15 miles or so to get me. I was nearly 30 at the time. That's what parents do.

    Betsy S
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes they do. When it's an unexpected, sudden confusing situation. This was none of those things.

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    ToGo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know about all of you guys but I made some pretty dodgy decisions when I was 18. Despite the law saying I was now an adult, my brain was most definitely still a teenager. Maybe most will disagree but I actually think that the fact she managed to go on the trip at all, with major anxiety problems, was a brave step. She wanted to be normal and have fun with her friends, she just isn't equipped with the tools yet. I don't think this was the right time for an "I told you so" moment. Reckon I'd have picked her up and used the car journey home to hear her out then discuss her going back to therapy.

    Maryann Lima
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    30 years later: Now that I'm a senior citizen and don't drive anymore, I called my daughter and asked her to pick me up and take me shopping. She told me since I'm an adult I can take care of myself and to call an Uber. I guess it's a valuable lesson on how to take care of myself through my struggles.

    jade s
    Community Member
    1 year ago

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    I'm on the fence but leaning towards YTA. I know people with Anxiety and there is often no reasoning with it. They know that that anxiety is irrational but in the moment it is the worst imaginable outcome and every ounce of logic will not stand up to it. At its worst someone I knew was sobbing that they had k*lled a baby because they was starting to have a sore throat (they hugged a friend, the friends daughter had a new baby, they had not met the daughter or baby but thought they had infected the friend who would pass it on and the baby we get sick). Im those situations they need a support network and family should be the one you can rely on, especially at 18yo. There were other ways he could have taught her responsibility and therapy tells people with anxiety to push their limits and take on experiences which is what she was doing. I wouldn't want the person I know never to live because they were afraid.

    Fellfromthemoon
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    According to the post, it was discussed before the trip: if she needs to get home early, she needs to take an Uber. She wanted to quit - she took an Uber. Problem solved. The fact that the daughter didn't calculate with the price, that's her teaching moment, as they always say. On the other hand, why do we assume that the mother could've left her work for several hours just to play cab for an adult child, who was not in danger? I guess her earning potential will dwindle if she is unreliable. And when the parent's earnings decrease, the adult child won't have the option to take a $250 Uber ride.

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    SlightlyTarnished
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    1 year ago

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    Anxiety. Well, yes, it is the latest trend in disabilities, at least in the US. Everyone has to have a malady as an excuse for antisocial and narcissistic behavior.

    Lisa Barbeau
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s not a trend nor is it new just because we no longer hide mental health issues and sweep them under the rug. There was a time when menopause was considered nothing more than “female hysteria.” Knowledge meant it became recognized as a legitimate health issue. Acknowledging anxiety and other potentially crippling mental health issues are key to helping people navigate their way through them so they can lead happy lives. Condemning people serves no purpose.

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    Joe Reaves
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    1 year ago

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    I'm leaning towards ESH because she quit therapy. Changing therapists would have been valid but unless her parents told her that wasn't an option, quitting was stupid. But you know what helps young people become more confident? Knowing they have a safety net should things go wrong. And while the parent might not have been able to easily leave work, it doesn't sound like they were willing to stay on the phone and try to talk her through her issue either. Just well, I told you so, get over it or get an uber.

    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    omg the amount of infantilization from the YTA crowd that now claim that an 18 year old is a kid. is it because they don't want to accept they themselves are old since they are not that age? An 18 year old is an adult, legally and otherwise. They can vote, they can drink in most of the world, they drive a car and own property. And they certainly can manage their own mental problems (if they put effort into it like not leaving therapy) or accept the consequences of their own actions.

    Lisa Barbeau
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. Since when is an 18 year old unable to anticipate consequences? Toddlers can anticipate basic consequences.

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    Ebony
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the things I read in the responses was that OP had her daughter in therapy to help her cope with her anxiety. The daughter stopped going once she turned 18. I can imagine the conversation was something along the lines of, 'I'm 18, I'm an adult, and I can do what I want to do'. Mom was like, 'fine do what you want. Don't come calling me when you get in a situation '. Actions have consequences.

    Sheila Bew
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. If the daughter is refusing to continue therapy then the mom has to put her foot down. If people think her mom not picking her up has created trust issues between them then the daughter has a bigger problem. How many times have you parents, when you were children got upset with parents and lost trust in them. Let’s be real here. If the mom was adamant about her not going to the beach and the daughter got upset with get mom, what would your comments be? Do you think she would be upset and feel a lack of trust with her mom. I promise you are back talking as normal.

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    Charles McChristy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LMAO, all of these YTA's are funny, and this is coming from someone with a full blown panic disorder. She's an adult, she was cautioned ahead of time, her father couldn't just leave work, and she dropped out of therapy that she obviously needs. NTA!

    Lost Penny
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You abandoned her all alone in a new scary place, far away from home, in the middle of nowhere!!111" Oh for the love of... She wasn't in the middle of nowhere, all alone with nowhere to go. She was in her friends' car & she didn't want to sit there & wait for them to come back. 18 is not a baby!

    three norns
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the ppl saying "you broke your daughter's trust" .... She said she would not come get her if she insisted on making a bad decision. Now we're saying that *keeping her word* is "breaking trust"???? If the daughter had said she broke her arm or was assaulted or abandoned by her friends, 100% mom would've left work and making like a Valkyrie to get to her. But pick her up because the expected happened? No. The lesson is STOP MAKING DECISIONS OUT OF PIQUE!

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't a new condition, these are presumably her close friends, so this won't be unexpected. Daughter took a calculated risk and it didn't work, it was hers to take, as is the Uber.

    KatSaidWhat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could have been handled better but 18yo is going to have to learn some lessons if she wants to cope in the real world. The first one being if someone tells you they think something is a bad idea, listen. Especially if that person is your mother who knows you better than you know yourself. Yes, yes, anxiety - more people have it than you think. It's how you deal with it that matters. 18 needs more therapy with someone to teach her coping mechanism and rationalisation. I can recommend someone here in London ;-)

    The Starsong Princess
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this was a good thing. OP isn’t shielding her daughter from her anxiety anymore and she’s feeling the impact. Once things cool down, op should discuss returning to therapy with her daughter and be clear that she will help her but not enable her.

    AsylumWalker
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    12 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah or shes just made the anxiety worse for her and now home doesn't feel like a safe space anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Lew k
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a person with horrible anxiety. The op is right. Daughter has to learn to cope with life or avoid triggers. Anxiety is terrible. I spend 90% of my life feeling like I have an test that will alter the course of my life in an hour. That said if you don't learn how to live with it you'll be a burden your whole life. Going to the grocery store is a huge trigger for me. Such a basic thing. Sure I could lean on my issues and make the wide do it every time but that not fair. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and not let your disability define you. I was awarded disability for my anxiety. I chose to leave the free money for life on the table and go back to work because I didn't want a life of fixed income. You can still live a full normal life with anxiety but not if someone gives you a safety net and bails you out your whole life.

    Jack Sonol
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    12 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Speaking from experience and observation, when people with even mild anxiety are coddled it exacerbates the anxiety. You can't learn how to cope with anxiety by avoiding it.

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    Alex Schneider
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They did it well, both of them. You can't learn to soothe yourself or find solutions if someone else do.She got therapy,she will have some tools to work with and empower herself . Step outside her comfort zone call an uber and drive home all alone and tell their friends why is already a big move. Parents can tell her she had done good, (even if it feels like a fail to her) without release her from her consequences..

    Sarah Kathrin Matsoukis
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have anxiety prime but I'm not stupid, I learned to predict triggers and plan accordingly. I'm not making it other people's problem, if something is worse than expected, proper coping mechanisms.

    Orange Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, why was she allowed to stop therapy? This is where "my house, my rules" comes in. My mom would have absolutely not allowed that choice. You want to leave therapy, you can leave the house.

    Sergio Bicerra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's where the tough love comes handy, agree with you 100%

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    Sunny Day
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope 18yo has to pay the Uber bill and not mom. I do feel some sympathy for daughter. I backed out of a college trip to Canada. They had a van instead of the bus I was expecting. No bathroom. I have IBS and it flares up with stress. Not having a bathroom available makes me stressed. No way could I get in that van when they said "next bathroom stop 4 hours". I had to call my dad to come and get me after he had just dropped me off.

    Snow_White
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand people like the daughter. She just sounds weak, spoiled and entitled, expecting everyone to accommodate her weird anxieties. She knew what the plans were but went anyways against everyone's recommendations and then expected to be 'saved' like a little helpless princess.

    OrangeStripey Hat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm guessing you don't know much about anxiety? I believe the parent did the right thing. But I don't believe the girl acted like a helpless princess. She acted like someone with severe anxiety. It's a thing that people suffer from. Even if you choose to belittle them

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    Jack Sonol
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    12 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One commenter said that as an 18 year old they can't anticipate consequences. This is a vast and extreme misunderstanding of brain development. The brain isn't FINISHED developing until around 25 for most people, but you get 99% of your brain development before 18. Plenty of people 18 and younger can perfectly anticipate consequences. Also, my best friend had Acute Social Anxiety Disorder and he joined the US Marines. Anxiety does not make you incapable.

    Kate Johnson
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    12 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe I'm alone but I didn't see this as an "anxiety" problem, it seemed like an "I didn't get my way so now I want to leave problem. I would have done the same thing. Time to grow up and deal with the reality of adulthood.

    John Tunnicliffe
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tumbleweed-of-doom you are right. As a parent I fully understand the sheer exhaustion and frustration when your child has to navigate through a world that is out of step with them. You want them to be able to stand on their own two feet but anxiety is so insidious. People want to get help but seeking help raises their anxiety and prevents them gaining help. You try to chip away at their worries and although they for a moment show bravery and try to be ‘normal’ and be one of the gang, you know what is going to happen. Do people really think we want our children not be able to stand on their own two feet? NTA but you did lose your daughter’s trust. If you suffer from anxiety yourself, you make doubly, trebly or even googillionly ways to make sure your child doesn’t suffer the same way you did.

    Jo Murphy
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She insisted on going when her parents warned it would be too much. Parent said, ok, but I'm not coming to get you if it gets too much. Parents knows it often gets too much. It got too much. What did the daughter think would happen? She's quit therapy, what was her plan for when she got overwhelmed and wanted to come home? Did she just expect that wouldn't happen, despite all prior evidence to the contrary? OP is right, if she can't go without freaking out, and has no coping skills in the event of a freak out, and her friends aren't willing to ruin their holiday to accommodate her freak out...why should the parent have to leave work to get her? If an Uber costs $250, a day off work and petrol presumably costs as much. How does saying 'I don't think you should go and I'm not coming to get you' and then not coming to get her 'break trust'. The trust is that they promised not to come, she didn't break it! Kid needs to get back in therapy and get some strategies for dealing.

    Ray Bolen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good that the parent said no at 18. Better than letting daughter's behavior turn into a habit.

    Peppy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, 18 is not a kid, I left home at 16 for goodness sake! Suck it up buttercup x

    Ruth Watry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It could make daughter's anxiety worse. My niece has similar issues, and even when my sister tries to talk her out of things that may be too much for her, my sister is still there for her, and my niece is slowly making progress (she 22)

    Bewitched One
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She might make more progress if your sister did something similar

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    Mimi M
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neither option was great.

    StumblingThroughLife
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. She was warned, & also ignored/argued about his concerns at the time, so this is completely on her. Maybe she could have apologised/made up with her friends if she didn't want to spend so much money on an Uber. You all deserve better public transportation over the Pond, too.

    Wheeskers
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the yta had their kids in safety vests and helmets at the park. There's a time for compassion there's a time for personal responsibilities. Parents did the right things and daughter wanted to branch out. Learning she wasn't ready is not on mom, it's on the girl and learning life isn't always happy happy is a good lesson for anyone.

    Apatheist Account2
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once got confused by trains in Richmond after an evening job interview - all the trains were going away from where I wanted to go, I didn't realise it was a loop, and I panicked about not getting home. This was 1980s, before mobiles and sat navs. I rang my parents and they came the 15 miles or so to get me. I was nearly 30 at the time. That's what parents do.

    Betsy S
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes they do. When it's an unexpected, sudden confusing situation. This was none of those things.

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    ToGo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know about all of you guys but I made some pretty dodgy decisions when I was 18. Despite the law saying I was now an adult, my brain was most definitely still a teenager. Maybe most will disagree but I actually think that the fact she managed to go on the trip at all, with major anxiety problems, was a brave step. She wanted to be normal and have fun with her friends, she just isn't equipped with the tools yet. I don't think this was the right time for an "I told you so" moment. Reckon I'd have picked her up and used the car journey home to hear her out then discuss her going back to therapy.

    Maryann Lima
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    30 years later: Now that I'm a senior citizen and don't drive anymore, I called my daughter and asked her to pick me up and take me shopping. She told me since I'm an adult I can take care of myself and to call an Uber. I guess it's a valuable lesson on how to take care of myself through my struggles.

    jade s
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    1 year ago

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    I'm on the fence but leaning towards YTA. I know people with Anxiety and there is often no reasoning with it. They know that that anxiety is irrational but in the moment it is the worst imaginable outcome and every ounce of logic will not stand up to it. At its worst someone I knew was sobbing that they had k*lled a baby because they was starting to have a sore throat (they hugged a friend, the friends daughter had a new baby, they had not met the daughter or baby but thought they had infected the friend who would pass it on and the baby we get sick). Im those situations they need a support network and family should be the one you can rely on, especially at 18yo. There were other ways he could have taught her responsibility and therapy tells people with anxiety to push their limits and take on experiences which is what she was doing. I wouldn't want the person I know never to live because they were afraid.

    Fellfromthemoon
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    According to the post, it was discussed before the trip: if she needs to get home early, she needs to take an Uber. She wanted to quit - she took an Uber. Problem solved. The fact that the daughter didn't calculate with the price, that's her teaching moment, as they always say. On the other hand, why do we assume that the mother could've left her work for several hours just to play cab for an adult child, who was not in danger? I guess her earning potential will dwindle if she is unreliable. And when the parent's earnings decrease, the adult child won't have the option to take a $250 Uber ride.

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    SlightlyTarnished
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    1 year ago

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    Anxiety. Well, yes, it is the latest trend in disabilities, at least in the US. Everyone has to have a malady as an excuse for antisocial and narcissistic behavior.

    Lisa Barbeau
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s not a trend nor is it new just because we no longer hide mental health issues and sweep them under the rug. There was a time when menopause was considered nothing more than “female hysteria.” Knowledge meant it became recognized as a legitimate health issue. Acknowledging anxiety and other potentially crippling mental health issues are key to helping people navigate their way through them so they can lead happy lives. Condemning people serves no purpose.

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    Joe Reaves
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    1 year ago

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    I'm leaning towards ESH because she quit therapy. Changing therapists would have been valid but unless her parents told her that wasn't an option, quitting was stupid. But you know what helps young people become more confident? Knowing they have a safety net should things go wrong. And while the parent might not have been able to easily leave work, it doesn't sound like they were willing to stay on the phone and try to talk her through her issue either. Just well, I told you so, get over it or get an uber.

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